Ahenge lori Borujerd -

[samankalariiiii]

bra ro ka kran amana ..ballam dangyan har zor xosha

[MegaMecla]

This is Laki not Lori.. Im a Laki so I know this Laki!!!

[rageboy1431]

live long iran and iranian . PS BROJERDIHA INJORI HARF NEMIZANAN INA LOR KHORAMBADAN ,,BROUJERDIHA ZABANESHON FARGH MIKONE.

[turkehetekmetek]

ien qadar zir-zir nemikhad, If this is lori, then lori is Kurdish and kurdish is Lori too. Her biji (nemire) her chi lore/kurde

[turkehetekmetek]

My comment is meant for dfront21. xweri, milhiez, tulese,gewad

[k0shtim]

allah akbar  Lorestan kurdistan (iran -iraq) akhavan .

[bawegur2714]

Dast xosh Azizani Kurdi Lurstan

Biji Kurdistan

[iranium2008]

we are all iranian.. no matter kurd , lur, persian..

[KurdishPride952]

we are not iranian

we are kurds and only kurds

lors are kurds

bakhtiairis are kurds

KURDS ARE KURDS!!!

understood?

[iranium2008]

kurds are kurds, bakhtiaris are bakhtiaris, lors are lors, persians are persians.

All of them belong to Iranian ethnicities. Is it difficult to understand?

[KurdishPride952]

if iran likes kurds soo much, why do they help turkey against kurds??

why did betray the kurds in saddam's time???

[iranium2008]

we have 2 dictatorships, no chance to give our opinions, but real iranian nationalists have always respected kurds, paniranians have always been sympathic for the kurdish struggle, Kak mostafa Barzani had good ties with them. Just wait, the islamic rule is almost finished...

[SikismekAtaturk]

Persians are Persians, but Bakhtiyaris and Loris are Kurds my braderi jan, please do not be offended but this is the reality which Iranian regime wants to change through a policy of assimilation

[SikismekAtaturk]

Persians are Persians, that's true. BUT Lors and Baxtiyatis are KURDS

[SikismekAtaturk]

It does not rocket sceince to understand that Persian control and hold over different section of Kurdish nation comes through the Shi'i faith. For centuries the Perisans have been luring the lurs (nice rhyme) through the shared faith and made them to think that they are also Persians. For those who say Lurs are not Kurds I pose this questions: Why the poems of Baba Tahir Hamadani or Oryan have been translated into Persian and why the main Bakhtiyari city called Shahri Kord?

[dfront21]

You have no idea what you are talking about. No one in Iran calls themselves "Persian" or "Fars." People who speak Farsi as there first language identify with their city: Isfahani, Yazdi, Shirazi, Mashadi, Tehrani, etc. Lors identify as Lors, not Kurds. We are proud Iranians and we will fight you to the death if you come after our land.

[SikismekAtaturk]

Go to wikipedia and type گویش بختیاری and read it and see how much close Baxtiyari Lori to Kurdish.

[dfront21]

I don't care how close Lori is to Kurdish. What difference does it make? We are proud Iranians and like I said above, we will fight to the death to preserve Iran.

[Nega139]

What do you mean by WE? You are just ONE person and talk for yourself.

[dfront21]

If you don't believe feel free to travel to Lorestan and find out for yourself. Until then, shut the hell up.

[Nega139]

Dfront21

You do not represent all Iranian people, what gives the right to say WE. What do mean by WE? Which WE? Instead of shut me up answer my question. The burden of proof lies with you who lay charges, not for me to go to Loristan. And I do not feel that much free when you want me to shut up.

[dfront21]

We are the people of Lorestan, the people of Iran. I am a Bakhtiari Lor and I therefore come from a position of authority on the topic. And if I met you in person I would make you shut up.

[Nega139]

Do not generalize, you dont represent people of Loristan or IRAN. When there was an election in Loristan and people gave you the vote of confidence then you can say WE. I see some aggression in you which you could have used it against Persian assimilation. And if you are that eager to meet me you are very welcome to Sulaimaniyah and I will meet at the Kurdistan international airport or if you do not like to fly by airplane you can come to Zap.

[dfront21]

You see...you are not even from Iran. If you want our land come and try to take it. We will slap you in the mouth and send you back to Iraq...go worry about your own problems.

[Nega139]

dfront21

Safe your slapping for the Persian who rule over you and you have no idea where I am from, keep guessing. The problems which you mentioned are being solved one by one.

I see this discussion is not going anywhere that is why I terminate it and also thank you for replying to my comments.

[dfront21]

Exactly, I win, you loose...now go home.

[Nega139]

I am not arguing with a fool because people may not know the difference.

Every thing you are proud of is form Medes and if you have any problem with that take it up with Will Dourant. Read and weep.

THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION (tm) Ver. 4.8

Authors Durant, Will & Ariel

CHAPTER XIII: Persia

I. THE RISE AND FALL OF THE MEDES

To Persia the Medes gave their Aryan language, their alphabet of thirty-six characters, their replacement of clay with parchment and pen as writing materials,

[Nega139]

dfront

`01135 their extensive use of the column in architecture, their moral code of conscientious husbandry in time of peace and limitless bravery in time of war, their Zoroastrian religion of Ahura-Mazda and Ahriman, their patriarchal family and polygamous marriage, and a body of law sufficiently like that of the later empire to be united with it in the famous phrase of Daniel about "the law of the Medes and the Persians, which altereth not.

[turkehetekmetek]

kirem eray quni "drughgu", tulese tu kucat lore-bahktiari hasti. There isn't such a thing as bakhtiari from loristan. People from Luristan are either Laki or Luri,.period.

[dfront21]

korekhar, you don't know anything. you are not from iran, you have never been to iran, let alone lorestan. go back to your job selling doner kabobs.

[turkehetekmetek]

cucetighi, cashkole (korekher)you are right. I am definitely not from any artificial state. I am a Kurd from Bijar and have been many times to many different places of Loresso. How many doner kebab they shoveled up your dirty ass when you visited Turkey?.

[dfront21]

If you have been to Lorestan, then you know that we do not support your plan to break up our fatherland. We are Iranians, we don't make doner kabobs. Thats for amales from Turkey. Now, what is the name of your restaurant in London? I will make sure to visit it and buy from you, so you can send money back to your 20 brothers and sisters in "North" Kurdistan.

[kurdistaniyan]

YOU ARE FUCKING BRAINWAHSED

[Nega139]

Please explain and enlighten me and other readers how have I been brainwashed?

[kurdistaniyan]

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF MAHABAD..

[Nega139]

It was not the republic of Mehabad, it was the republic of Kurdistn. Dont use the enemys word, or maybe you are the enemy.

[dfront21]

No, it was a puppet state set up by Stalin. It collapsed the moment Soviet troops withdrew and nationalist forces moved in. Then, as now, you are dirty communist.

[Nega139]

Betrayal, war after war, occupation, terrorism, Shiiatism, poverty, rape, dictatorship and chauvinism are what your nationalist forces (only Persian) has brought to other neighbouring nations.

You forgot to mention that your nationalist forces (only Persian) first occupied and overthrew the republic of Azerbaijan and then Kurdistan.

Kurds never accept communism because Kurds are too free to accept to be servant like you and your Shah and his father.

You, filthy Hitler lover.

[dfront21]

Kurds never accept communism, only PKK, KDPI, PJAK, Komala. I touched a nerve, huh? It's simple causation: Soviets invade Iran: Republic of Mahabad is established; Soviets withdraw form Iran: Republic of Mahabad collapses. It's very basic logic.

You forgot to mention that nationalist forces beat back Saddam's army and were allied with Barzani and Talabani. We do this for you even after Kurds sided with Turks and Arabs against us at Chaldiran.

[Nega139]

You are repeating the same nonsense as your blood brother Khomeini when he ordered to occupy Kurdistan. I do not blame you, you have the same blood in you as these lair terrorists.

All these parties you mentioned are trying to take back our occupied land by Persian chauvinist.

[dfront21]

So, causation is nonsense? With your logic, no wonder you get manipulated by every power in the region and the world.

[Nega139]

Accusing others to be communist is both deceitful and nonsense when you Persian have more than 40 communist parties, here are some of them; - Edalat-e Komonist-e Iran - Persian communist party (PCP) - Hezb-e Komonist-e Iran - Tudeh-e - Goroh-e Marxisti-e Koroyhokha - Toufan - Cherikhay-e Fadaii Khalgh-e iran - Cherikhay-e Fadaii - Ashraf-e Dehghani - Rah-e Kargar - Sahand - Enghelabian-e Komonist- Marxist Leninist - Etehadi-e Komonisthay-e Iran - Etehad-e chap - Peykar

[dfront21]

So, whats your point? First, we killed or exlied all of those bastards. Second, that list is not inclusive of all the political parties in Iran and the membership of non-communist parties far outranks communist parties. Third, ALL major Kurdish political parties are communist. Fourth, going back to the original point, when Stalin invaded Iran the Republic of Mahabad was created, when Stalin left Iran the Republic of Mahabad collapsed. Simple causation.

[Nega139]

As you admit it you are just good for one thing or maybe two, killing and expelling people who think otherwise.

Okay, name all these none communist (lefties) parties, they should be more than 40 according to you.

And those bastards you mentioned had the same blood in them as you.

Shiiteism allows you to lie (taghie, holy lies) but not maybe this big. None of the major Kurdish parties are communist.

Fourth, you are drowning and you try desperately to hold on whatever you can grab.

[dfront21]

I'm not going to name 40 political parties. It's pointless. The main opposition parties in Iran are not communist, they are various nationalist parties: National Party, Iran Nation party, Rastakhiz, etc. And you just proved your racism and prejudice by what you said about Shi'a. And you also insulted about half your Kurdish people (Fayli, Alevi, Ilami, Kermanshahi). Finally, if you truly know anything, being Shia is a large part of being Lor. So, go home, and leave us alone now.

[Nega139]

You wrote non-communist parties far outrank communist parties, why not name them all or maybe you talk from your rear end.

If you are searching for the definition of racism and prejudges one word comes to mind, Persian.

I was just stating a fact, insult has a definition.

Dont shed crocodile tears for Kurds, you were just insulting them.

Kurdish people have more history in common than religion.

The problem is the other way around, you are not ending your occupation of Kurdistan.

[dfront21]

Oh yeah, Lors made the Farsi speakers in Iran and western Afghanistan to become Shia. ha ha

[k0shtim]

y u guyz been hating each other so much .. chill the fuck

[DharamJunior]

lor or lak, it all seems kurdish.. the dance is defintly kurdish, and the way it all is arranged is kurdish.. but as u feel, no one forces u to feel kurdish. i dont undertsand this language, but i love the music of lor/laki.. thanx for the music

[bahman1234]

just shows how big kurdish pepole are in iran.amlost west of iran are kurds.i.,m from Divandareh kurdstan and proud to see all my happy kurdish pepole sining and dancing.love kurdestan.

[illtakemhomewitme]

but this is lori not kurdish but similar

[slawlasharimariwan08]

Aziz lor are kurd!

[NimaSun]

Are you Lori yourself to say that?

[lakkurdistan]

واقعا نمیدونم تو که یک ترک همدانی هستی چرا در امور همه دخالت میکنی از لر گرفته تا کردهای لک و زازا و سورانی و اورامی گرفته تا ترک و تاتارهای مغولستان و غیره؟هنوز نفهمیدم تو یک پان فارسیستی یا یک پان ترکیستی یا مدعی العام همه

[NimaSun]

توزیع دادم واستون. قبیلهٔ ما کرد بودن، میرن همدان ترک زبان میشن و آخرش سر از تهران پیدا می‌کنن. هنوز ترک زبان داریم ولی‌ کرد نداریم.

[NimaSun]

این همبستگی‌ و عشق واسهٔ بیش از ۱ قبیله برایه یک racist سخت هستش که درک کند، اون هم بخاطره خودخواهی‌، نفرت هستش که سر از نادانی‌ در میاره. این "نادانی‌" در خانوادهٔ من - و هزاران خانوادهٔ دیگر در ایران - وجود ندارد.

ضمنا در بروجرد هم فامیل داریم ما. شما چی‌؟

[lakkurdistan]

اگر خانوادتون و اون هزاران دیگه همه مثل تو فکر کنند( ضمن احترام)برا همتون متاسفم چون همتون هیچ دید سیاسی و منطقی ندارید و ایرانی میخواید که همه فارس بشن حتی اگه به قیمت خون همه غیر فارسها/پس به این میگن نژادپرستی کور که بسی هم خطرناکه

[lakkurdistan]

در ضمن تا کسانی مثل شما هستند لزومی داره منم بیام به بقیه گیر بدم و ایران ایران کنم؟یکی را گاوش درگله نبودی اما پایش برف برده بودی. ایرانی که من میخوام هنوز درست نشده

[lakkurdistan]

امروزه اگه یک روستا رو یک قبیله بنامی توهین حساب میشه ولی تو یک ملت 40-50میلیونی رو یک قبیله مینامی متاسفم برات از اینهمه نادانی وتنگ نظریت/تا افرادی با افکاری مثل تو هستند دنیا روی صلح و ارامش نخئواهد دید

[NimaSun]

بذار سادهترش کنم.. من یک فرده ایرانی‌ هستم و بیش از حد حق دارم که عقیده بدم رابطه به کشورم حتا اگر در آن مناطق فامیلی نداشته باشیم.

عجیبه واسهٔ من که شما اینرو درک نمیکنید، و ایرانی‌ بودن هیچ معنای واسه شما ندارد.

[lakkurdistan]

از اینکه یک ایرانی واقعی باشی ستایشت میکنم اما اینکه بیاید ومثلا بگویید زازاها کرد نیستند این چه ربطی به ایران دارد؟این یعنی دشمنی با یک ملت ونژادپرستی/تو هیچ میدونی مبارزات هویت خواهی(وحتی مسلحانه) کردهای ترکیه را همین زازاها دارند رهبری میکنند؟

[lakkurdistan]

why you saying this is lori?it is laki and we are not lor and laki is a kurdish accent dosent make difrence where we are from the mater is we are kurd

[illtakemhomewitme]

listen buddy im from borujerd we are not laki maki paki kaki or kurdi, we are LOR persians, you cant fool us.....stop trying to claim everyone as ur people its just sad, just enjoy what u have jesus fucking christ

[lakkurdistan]

ها بروگلی سی چی ایقده تپ و توز میکی؟

[SikismekAtaturk]

The language is Kurdish, which is the genral term for people who speak Sorani, Kirmanji, Hawrami, Lori and Laki. You need to know, more than 2 million Lori Kurds live in Iraq and all proclaim to be Kurds. And if all understan one another so I dont see any reason why you get so angry that you are a Kurd. Loristan or Luristan has more affinity to Kurds than Persians. Just read Baba Tahir and see his poems translated into Persian. But what he has written is readlily understood by Kurds.

[dfront21]

Where are these 2 million Lors in Iraq? You mean 10% of Iraq is Lori? Youre out of your mind. Lori is closer to Persian than Kurdish...that is a FACT. Lori is a Southwestern Iranian language (like Persian), Kurdish is a Northwestern Iranian language. We are not Kurds.

[SikismekAtaturk]

The lurs of Iraq live in the following areas: Ali Sharqi, Ali Gharbi, Badrah, Jassan, Mandili, Kut, and in Baghdad there are many Lori- Kurdish neighborhood. Forget about language classification which happened after so much of assimilation committed against the Lurs in Iranian Luristan. Ask yourself why many Lurs identify themselves with main body of Kurdish culture and celebrate Sorani Halparke songs. I am not saying this to offend you, check books on the region not those written in Iran

[dfront21]

I don't care what Lors in Iraq consider themselves. Iraq is an Arab country, so of course the closest people to them are Kurds. But, we are Iranians and we will not let you divide us.

[SikismekAtaturk]

Bragem, are you fully awake Iran is already divided, the Mullah, the Shi'itism the rule of Persians who do not allow anyone to study or learn his/ her own language. I am sorry but I think you need to realize that nothing will stay the same, it is Inevitable, those who deny the rights of others (like you rulers) will ultimately cause the downfall of this flimsy bastion, see what's happening to Turkey after denying the rights of Kurds for 80 years.

[dfront21]

bla bla...you people have been singing the same tired song for the past 90 years.

[SikismekAtaturk]

These songs which we are preserving are giving joy and happiness to Lori Kords from Khoramawa to Shiraz. Enjoy it too.

[dfront21]

Go back to your cave. You are not even from Iran. You are from Turkey. You have never even been to Iran. Leave us alone.

[SikismekAtaturk]

Proximities of one language to another is based on grammar, hence Lori have lots in common with kurdish BECAUSE it is KURDISH (check wikipedia)

[SikismekAtaturk]

You have no idea whatsoever, I never met any Lor who displays this amount of anger when he is told you are a Kurd. You are not a Lor.

[dfront21]

Thats right, you have never met any Lor.

[SikismekAtaturk]

You are not. Stop pretending, not Lor I know would have this horrible attitude if one says this Laki Kurdish song. you are Persian who think they are the best.

[illtakemhomewitme]

??? im from borujerd....

[SikismekAtaturk]

It's Lori Kurdish

[lakkurdistan]

bro this is laki not lori even the singer is lak

[dfront21]

There is no Lori Kurdish. There is Lori, Kurmanji, Sorani, Zaza, Gilaki, Tati, Talyshi, Mazandarani, Farsi, Baluchi, Arabi, Turki, Azeri, Ingilisi, Almani, Chini, Hindi...but no Kurdi.

[k0shtim]

YA LAKI ASILA ,GHABEL NERI

[Surenaa91]

Laki(Kurdish) or Luri ?

[k0shtim]

shava shava bachone loresoo

[FireOfMedia2]

It is luri. I can not understand it well! well i can understand laki very well. but Gurani Kurds can understand Luri. I saw a Luri man in Zagros TV he understood Gurani very well.

[pegila]

qabeli neri.

[lakkurdistan]

fera sopas daset khoash boo