disgusting how this man has the nerve to even try and defend what was said in the programme. taken out of context? what a load of BS, you cant deny what they said and no amount of context is a defence. besides how are we meant to know what this man says is true, after all muslims are allowed to lie if it defends and/or promotes islam. how can you trust anything these religious leaders say is true
also this bloke is lying again not many nine year olds go through puberty even today the most common age of puberty is around 11, in the dark ages it would have been older as in them days they lacked a proper diet and didn't have meat pumped with hormones that is a scientific fact look it up if you do not believe me, also beheading people was normal in the darkages, does that make that ok too, oh wait that still happens in islamic countries..
haha whenever a moslem gets caught out they claim its bias or out of context its like a christian saying oh these poor catholics they fiddled with little kids but it was taken out of context, thats the difference between civilized people and moslems we dont condone it we don't like it and when we find the bastards we put em in prison..
The age of consent in England and Wales is 16 regardless of sexual orientation and/or gender, as specified by the Sexual Offences Act 2003. However, if person A is over the age of 18 and in a position of trust over person B who is under the age of 18, it is illegal for A to engage in sexual activity with B.
The vast majority of Muslims I meet are at least partially deceptive and truly believe that it is morally permissible to lie to anyone they even think isn't Muslim - and apparently they can tell if someone is a Christian or a Buddhist, etc on sight. "Tactical dishonesty" in Islam is called Al-taqiyya. Muhammed gave permission for one of his servants to lie in order to commit murder! Since their prophet is their sole example of how one should live, lying, murder & pedophilia are now acceptable.
@Glurkster Youve based your entire view of Islam on a channel 4 half hour documentary showing a minority of muslims - and you say you 'heard from islam', stupid.
Great responce. Islam is the only way to paradise. the one and only true religion no matter how much u people try to make Islam look bad, ur never going to succeed coz Islam the the world's fastest growing religion! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
Great responce. Islam is the only way to paradise. the one and only true religion no matter how much u people try to make Islam look bad, ur never going to succeed coz Islam the the world's fastest religion! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
these are the pigs they are growing in numbers and they are fanatical they are coming and the world is doing nothing about it maybe some day they will see what is happening and throw political correctness away maybe someday they will save them selves but it will most likely be to late
@sunniboy10 believe me i was ok with islam before I researched . . . why would i appreciate it more after finding out about the sharia law?? r u nuts?! 40% of the MUSLIMS in Britain support this . .additionally i have come across many quotes of Koran that simply order muslim to kill/hurt different people . . .IS IT REALLY THE RELIGION OF PEACE? HELL NO
The UK really needs to make solid propaganda against Islam at this moment its weak, even then with the propaganda against Islam, converts are the highest ever. Maybe they need Hollywood style movies in the UK get the hate up a little there's plenty of thick bastards out there they could scoop up.
No friend, it has revealed the vile tripe of the cult of Mohammedism.
Another Mohammeden who can't afford a razor to shave with - stip living in the 7th.Century mate! Camels and dates don't mean anything in New York or London!
Bilal phillips and other muslims do no bother with such a kaffir film this is clearly to cause more islamophobia and stir and the fact that they did on the first day of ramadan proved they were out to annoy the muslim viewers in the uk, it was quite while ago but damn it peed me off,.turning on the tv and first thing see that trash on tv, their kaffir what do you expect!
@NuBemet There is no such thing as forced marriage in islam. In Qu'ran it states "O you believe! you are forbidden to inherit women against their will; and you should not treat them with harshness" Allah clearly states there should be no forced marriage in islam.
@sth119 if you want to be taken seriously, you should say that there SHOULD not be such a thing as forced marriage in Islam. But your quote of the Quran is hardly an argument nor a proof against what everybody knows: that forced marriage is widespread in the Muslim world.
Reality is what counts, not what is written in the Quran.
@NuBemet What you are not aware of is forced marrige takes place in cultures which are not of the muslim faith what Islam provides is for the woman to have the right to chose whomever she wants to marry without being being coerced into a marriage. If this forced marriage happens then they are breaking the laws of Allah and i am sure any sincere and faithful muslim would not dare to break the laws of Allah.
go to muslimparliament (dot) org (dot) uk (slash) forcedAsianmarriages.htm
1,000 in the UK alone. millions worldwide.google is your friend.
welcome to reality dude.
Forced marriage might be against Islam in your view, but factually it is widespread in the Islamic world. and in Islamic societies in western countries!
@NuBemet First of all i am not a dude. Secondly just because it is on a website does not mean it carries credibility. When was this study carried out?, by whom was this study carried out? . This questions need to answered first of all.Also being asian does not equal being a musim, also 1000 is a tiny percentage compared to the millions of muslim in the UK though you claim its widespread. .
@NuBemet As i stated earlier, forced marriage occurs in cultures that are not of the islamic faith and some religious faith. The difference is Islam provides the solution to forced marriages as stated earlier
@sth119 What do you consider as the muslim world? You claim forced marriage is widespread in the muslim world, what evidence do you have of such claim. And if there was such a thing and then they are breaking the commandments of the Qu'ran and as muslims we take breaking of the commandments seriously
Thanks for uploading, this is a welcome response against a totally irresponsible dispatch production by this tosser David H. who had no objective other than whipping up hatred, fear and mass hysteria against the Muslim population.
You are fucking SICK!!! Only a brainwashed fuckhead looking through the eyes of a perverted ideology would make excuses for pedophilia. A pre-pubescent child should NEVER be married off to an old man... EVER!!! This is why islam is incompatible with the west because it's incompatible with our innate human morality...
@kusalaviro Brother what morality are you talking about? Teens disrespect parents, pre-marriage sex, drugs, alcohol, rape, name a crime and you got it there. If that society is moral and holds dear the issue of morality, I'm grateful that i'm not part of it..
@LosTL0rD Those crimes you listed exist everywhere and are condemned in the west as much as anywhere else. Why would you imply that they are part of 'western morality' as though we approve of them? Think about what you're saying...
@LosTL0rD ...in Germany Moslems are part of pre-marriage sex, drugs, alcohol, raping drunk kids and all that shit too. So religion doesn't say very much...okay well it looks to me as if sex and raping is more common for people with Moslem culture background. If you really aren't part of such behavior it's good.
In general you could also do negative documentaries about Christianity. If you got a Book with Satan/Jesus/God in it it's all the same shit. The texts might not be bad but people are.
@kusalaviro what about in the US...where morman fundimentalists are forcing their 11 yr old daughters to marry 50 yrs old men how already have like 10 wives.....maybe the west should sort its own problems out first before judging the Prophet....and secondly only a 100 yrs ago europian moncahy were forcing their children to marry at very young ages.....please educate yourself before making judgements about a biased programme...i suggest you try reading there are alot of free sources online...
@Dralleful Don't try to justify the crimes of one group by outlining the transgressions of another. They are ALL bad and all you've achieved is to group islam in with other perverts who deserve our condemnation...
@kusalaviro i think i maybe explained myself badly.kusalaviro..your first comment seemed to be pinning accusations to Islam and i was trying to explain to you that only a few hundered years young people getting married was common becuase the mortality rate was extreamly high until vaccinations and antibiotics were developed. And i wanted to tell you that you came to an Islamic vidio to make comments and i think if you are passionate about protecting kids there are kids today who are suffering!
@Dralleful Can you hear yourself? You're making excuses to defend a pedophile. Only religion makes people do things like that. You would NEVER defend a 57 year old man having sex with a 9 year old girl in ANY other context but once it's under the banner of 'religion', well, any and all crimes will be justified. Aside from that, your excuse was bullshit anyway, it was NOT common, you just want to believe that. Try to provide evidence...
@kusalaviro look your getting it so wrong again, ill give you a list of child marriage ....1396 Richard II married Isabel of france when she was 7, christine de pisam was a child bride, grace of Seleby = married at age 4, all children of Henery II married when they were babies, sovient union collapse led to a surge of child weddings becuase people could not afford to keep their daughters, Jerry lee lewis married his 13 year old cousin, Loretta lynn married at age 13 to an older man
@kusalaviro i sent you a list because you asked for one....your quote Aside from that, your excuse was bullshit anyway, it was NOT common, you just want to believe that. Try to provide evidence... and you should stick to your point you said Islam is incompatible from the western world....your quote This is why islam is incompatible with the west because it's incompatible with our innate human morality... so all i was doing was responding to you....i was not defending anything....i gave you
@kusalaviro alose traditions in different culturs and societies, Ketnnah (judaism), Vedda (sri lanka), Atjeh (indonisia) or yeh and Warren jeff in the yearning for zion ranch force 7-12 yr old girls to get married.....And no i am against peadophilia!!!! i am not defending it but you can hold what happened thousands of years ago which was normal all over the world to todays ...it just doesnt fit!!! please educate yrself in history, culture and religion.....have a nice day! Allah hafiz
Girls die in fire for not having a headscarf - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY! Madrid - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY 7/7 - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY 9/11 - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY Beslan - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY India (continues) - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY Bali - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY Somalia/Egypt/China/Indonesia/Nigeria/Balkans and so on - NO MUSLIM OUTCRY Cartoons - Death to the west! Miss World - Death to the west! Fitna - Death to the west! So called "foriegn policy" - Death to the west Satanic Verses - Fatwa! Go figure
The Glorious Quran has abolished racism in a clear-cut categorical manner. In surat Al-Hujrat, verse 13, we read: 'O mankind! We have created you from a single male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know each other. The most honorable of you in the sight of Allah are surety the righteous." (Al-Hujurat: 13)
@06alis1 Tabari II:21"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."
Allah also says in the Quran: "O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. (An-Nisa: 1)
@06alis1 Tabari II:11"Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."
Ishaq:450"It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent."
According to these Qur'anic verses, Islam stressed the absolute unity in variety of the human race. In his famous Farewell Pilgrimage sermon, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) declared: "O people! You are all to Adam and Adam was made of dust. No Arab is to be preferred over a non-Arab except by virtue of his piety."
@06alis1 Ishaq:144"A rock was put on a slave's chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.' I will do so,' said Bakr. I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out."
Bukhari: V9B89N256"Allah's Apostle said, You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'"
In another hadith, he (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Allah does not look at your images or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants."
@06alis1 Ishaq:243"I heard the Apostle say: Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"
Tabari IX:69"Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah's Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us."
Bukhari:V4B52N137"The Prophet said, Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"
The Undercover Mosque show was already vindicated. Radical islam is being taught in mosques, and when muslims defend it, they just look like radicals themselves.
Print another cartoon, and you will see how many radical muslims are in the UK.
Print it beside a cartoon of Jesus with a bomb for a hat, so its equal treatment. Most christians will chuckle at it, and not be offended. Muslims get offended because its true.
Do you mind when someone throw bomb or supply weapons used to kill people
Finally a very nice way of saying Muslim including those who are born in West should leave the West since only so called native (who are not Muslim) hv right to criticize, but Muslim, no way
@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
@berenjervin Well in reaction to cartoon, no one bombed civilian population. No one pretended to be champion of human right. No one supported oppresive regime
@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
@berenjervin Those so called good guys pretend that they see rocket launcher where there is no rocket launcher. Probably that is why they bombed UN building and they destroyed one of the doctors home and killed his daughters. Later by their own admission they said they were wrong as far as doctor house was concerned. Recently there soldier even use human shield..
Now did u recent video of soldier killing journalist in Iraq.
@berenjervin well how do you know that I do not complain. At least you guys are happy when wedding party are attacked by missile and blockade is imposed on civilian population and when people are killed
But I take your point. I said YOU and it wasnt a reasonable comment.
What my intention was to say (and I didnt come close to it) was that muslims in general never criticize or complain about other muslims - its always complaints against non muslims. Not universally true, there are RARE exceptions, and you may be one of them.
Muslims all over the west go bananas over a cartoon, but crickets at terrorism.
@berenjervin You are not happy about your own people dying, but you are happy over Muslim dying. Now you tell me what do you infer? Muslim countries are helping you guys "in war against terror" and then you have guts to say Muslim are not doing enough. Muslims clerics are giving fatwa aganinst terorrism while you are endorsing killing of Muslim and then you have audacity to say Muslim are not doing enough
How are muslims helping? When you defend the radical islamic view on web sites, are you helping? Muslims constantly demonize and barrage their people with propaganda telling them the US is stalking them and wanting to kill them, is that helping?
Many muslims are 2 faced. They say one thing to the world, then promote jihad within the muslim community.
And muslims like you defend islam via propaganda over the lives of people dying because of it.
@berenjervin Well then can you list countries who are helping US "war on terror"? Are these muslim countries? And surprisingly people like you still pretending muslim are "not doing enough to stem terrorism" and yet at the same time endorsing killing and bombing of Muslim (that is what you did earlier post). That is real sign of hypocrisy.
There are some muslim countries like Pakistan. Funny how despite billions of dollars in support to fight terrorism, the Taliban is able to still freely move in and out of Pakistan at will.
I make a lot of posts. Spell out what hypocrisy you think I'm saying, and I'll explain it
Yes I support the war against radical islam. I've never seen a war where innocent people didnt die. Its a tragic consequence of war. Doesnt mean the war isnt req
@berenjervin It is not more funnier that in Afghanistan (which has been occupied by NATO and US since 2001 ), Taliban still roam freely at will despite massive amount of money spent by coaliton forces itself or maybe you do not know about this fact. Actually it is not just Pakistan, which is helping in this war on terror. There are also other muslim countries yet people like you still do not know about this and pretend Muslim are not doing enough.
@berenjervin Whose law say that it is legal to invade countries on a pack of lies and without producing evidence. I have shown ample evidence to show Muslim are doing more than enough, but if you want to bury your head in sand, then it is your choice
And muslims ARENT doing enough. Organizations like CAIR and others are to busy suing corporations that "insult islam" to bother with trivial crap like stopping terrorism.
Name one thing CAIR (or any other muslim organization) has done to counter terrorism.
@berenjervin Was not Iraq invaded on a pack of lies? Why you are bringing in organization like CAIR which does not have constitutional power to stop anything? At best they can file a suit in court. Such Organizations are for protecting civil right of Muslim NOT countering terrorism and they have been established long before 9/11. Only muslim countries have such power and they are clearing helping US in countering terrorism by waging war
Nope. Its only a "pack of lies" if you want to dismissed what happened, and the way it happened.
I bring up CAIR because its a muslim organization that has ties to terrorists, and spends it time sueing over the slightest perceived injustice to muslims.
In fact, it actively sets companies up for lawsuits, then - given the terrorist ties - is probably funding terrorism to push islam on others.
@berenjervin why dont u go to court/Congress/White House and then ask them to declare CAIR as a terrorist since they are involved in" terrorism/illegal work"? It will be easy for you since you have a lot of proof or maybe there is not any.
Iraq was invaded because US claimed "it had WMD", but in the end US did not find any. So US lied!!
I dont need to. CAIR and many other muslim organizations are already being investigated.
And many members of CAIR are already in jail for terrorism related crimes.
In fact, as soon as CAIR was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator to the 9/11 attack, it changed its name to CAIRAN (pronounced Karen).
The US did not lie. Saddam used WMD against the kurds, and gave every appearance of having WMDs. In fact, he even had 6 months to clean up before the invasion started.
Why are you even defending CAIR? Its a sleaze-ball organization that even fleeces muslims in america out of money.
Its funny how you are so quick to defend an organization that you know supports terrorism. Or you support an organization you know nothing about. Is it because you support muslims over others, regardless of what they do?
CAIR is not about protecting civil rights of muslims, since muslims themselves are victims of illegal activities (like ripping them off for money to fund jihad).
CAIR is about pushing islamic culture into america by any and every means possible. And right now, it an "energizer bunny" of lawsuits against americans in any way shape or form it can get money.
Go read up on CAIR's legal history and you will see its a terrorist front to generate money.
@berenjervin At least three of Muslim countries are waging war against terrorism in their countries. Other Muslim countries are arresting terrorist and at least one of them even went as far as handing over it citizens to USA on mere suspicion. Furthermore there have been fatwa by Muslim scholar in India, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and in Western countries about condemning terrorism.
The world is full of muslim/muslim violence. For example, Sunni vs Shia violence.
Just because sunnis are calling shias terrorists and fighting them doesnt mean they are out to stop terrorism. They are just out to stop it when its directed at them.
Given the chance, many of those same muslims would force Sharia law down everyone elses throat. And there is a lot of evidence to support this. All you have to do it spend the time researching it.
@berenjervin Classic example of changing topic from "Muslim not doing enough" to "Sunni/Sha violence". I already gave you example of Muslim condemning terrorism even when it is not directed at them, but ignorant will alway ignore it.
Given the chance, ppl like you would invade more countries on a pack of lies and will only want freedom of expression/human right for themselves NOT for other. For you Muslims are guilty until proven innocent
No, you have claimed their are, but havent shown anything. I'm all ears though.
Besides, we already know not every muslim is a terrorist, so showing me non violent muslims says nothing about terrorism.
I can show you lots of peaceful americans....does that mean they didnt invade Iraq?
No, muslims are innocent until proven guilty. But Islam has been proven guilty, so when someone stands up and says "I believe in Islam", that tells me they support intolerance and violence.
@berenjervin Well first of all I did not talk about common Muslim; I was talking about Muslim government and religious authorities and about their stance against terrorism. You showing me a lot of peaceful americans is irrelevant. What matter is the state policy of America NOT "a lot of peaceful americans". Oh muslims are innocent until proven guilty; probably that is why there is still Guatanamo bay and some muslim being put in jail without charge.
@berenjervin Muslim by definition is the one who believe in Islam. So berenjervin the prosecutor has already pronounced the verdict that Islam & Muslim are guilty. Is this your own standard?
It would be good if you pursue your cause against wrongdoing of American state policy
@berenjervin you keep around in circle and ask same question. I already pointed out some of few "wrongdoing american state policy". Classic example is Iraq, which was invaded on a pack of lies. Now Gitmo where almost all of prisoners have not been charged. Now I know you will steer off this discussion and then you will ask same question that what has American done. It is like killing a people and then asking why do relatives of those people killed hate us. Keep your head buried in sand
But, I will agree with you that not all muslims are terrorists, jihadists, or violent, or whatever "negative" adjective you want to apply. Its just not that simple.
One of the first things people who look realize is that there is a significant "two faced" attitude within the muslim community.
To grossly oversimpliy...
there are good muslims
there are bad muslims that work hard to look like good muslims
and there are bad muslims
Its often hard to tell the good guys from the bad
I'm never happy about seeing someone die. Period. Not even convicted mass murderers. In the west, life is precious and cherished, and not easily given up by most people.
But, I'm an atheist, so i dont believe there is an afterlife. That means I get one shot at this life, then my view of the world becomes the same as it was the day before I was born....nothing.
So when I see someone dying, thats what I see. A person ceasing to exist in any way shape or form, and its not pleasant.
@berenjervin You are not happy about seeing someone die and yet you are justifying the murder and bombing of civilian population. If you are not happy with someone dying, then you should condemn NOT justify "collateral damage".
In a war situation, civilians get killed. It happens in every war that has ever happened. If someone sets up a rocket launcher or mortar in the middle of civilians, they are forcing the enemy to chose between which civilians die.
Its always the enemies civilians over your own. Always.
When your enemy has better tech than you, and you force them into that decision, you just killed your own civs.
Doesnt mean it was pleasant. Just better than the alternative.
@berenjervin occupyy a land, attack on the pack of lies, force a war, then civilian get killed and then say oh in a war situation, civilian get killed. That a very nice excuse. What if someone does not setup rocket launcher and then terrorist state bomb civilian population on a pack of lies as they did recently
The guy is really struggling to come up with some lies and play with words.There was this other muslim protecting muslims and saying the movie was out of context. He said that the undercover reporters must have seen and heard all the good teaching of Islam TOO! But they were not but int the film. Ha ha ha! Its like - there is a guy, he is such a good guy, but then he kills 12 people. Hey, lets make a film about how good this guy is and not show the killings.
u ppl are ignorant, u will never understand ur minds are sick and twisted full of disrespect, u never go into proper research, u just say what come in your head, one day u'll c, mock all u want!!! say all the disgusting things, but one day u'll c. I dnt care if u think i'm a fanatic or if ur gna come up names 4 me, coz that is always expected bu u ppl!! u listen to media so called experts of Islam
in subsections (1) and (6) of section 1 (amendment of law relating to homosexual acts in private), for the word eighteen there shall be substituted the word sixteen; and
in section 8 (restriction on prosecutions), for the word twenty-one there shall be substituted the word sixteen
"The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16, as specified by the Dutch Criminal Code, Articles 245 and 247, which read: (Art 245) "A person who, out of wedlock, with a person who has reached the age of twelve (12) but not yet sixteen (16), performs indecent acts comprising or including sexual penetration of the body is liable to a term of imprisonment of not more than eight years or a fine of the fifth category."; and (Art 247)
age of consent in Holland is 16 not 12..what the hell u talking about asshole?... as you say, Mohammed 'defined the parameters for marriage in Islam'...principles of marriage and age...so basically can marry any age in Islam (and consumate nearer menstruation)!...this prick is a joke, rather than come out and apologise for the stuff that came out on the documentary he tries talking around it, becos he knows if he disagress then he is disagreeing with his religion..
Within Islamic belief, Muhammad is said to have regarded the inner struggle for faith the "greater jihad", prioritizing it over physical fighting. Muslim scholar Mahmoud Ayoub states that "The goal of true jihad is to attain a harmony between islam (submission), iman (faith), and ihsan (righteous living)."[10] Greater jihad can be compared to the struggle that Christians call "resisting sin". This concept of jihad does not correspond to military action.
Oh, Muhammed said that, huh? Are you aware that this "greater jihad" business comes from a weak hadith from an obscure hadith collection? You want to explain why, throughout the ages, Muslim scholars all over the world have, without fail, somehow gotten the impression that jihad has something to do with fighting for the faith? Were these Islamic scholars idiots, or do you think they were merely working off of authoritative hadiths from canonical hadith collections and the Qur'an?
Just because a girl starts menstruating, she will not be married. In Islam everyday practices like that come second to following Islam and the 5 pillars - faith, prayers, giving charity to the poor, fasting and pilgrimage. There are a lot of Islamic cultures who would never allow their daughters to be married at to young an age, because they do not feel they are psychologically / personally ready for it. They would probably agree with you, but they would not agree with you insulting their faith.
I do not know why anyone would be so disrespectful to a father's child. Before people get married in Islam, both families talk to each other to discuss whether the marriage will be pure in God's eyes. A 50yr old's man's intentions to marry a nine year old would have not righteous intent. In fact, it sounds like a proposal that would lead both parties away from Islam and cause tremendous sin. I believe Dr Bilal Philips would hope for his daughter to enter a marriage that was religiously upright.
assalamalaikum brother bilal may Allah bestow His mercy upon you and please don't stop responding to these misleading videos like dispatches..and also encourage our other brothers in islam to do so! may allah help us to eradicate misconceptions of islam aameen!
The publication of "The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon" directed the attention of American reformers to the age of consent in their country and they were not pleased with what they found. The age of consent in the U.S., determined by each state, ranged from seven years, in Delaware, to an average of 10 to 12 years...
sometimes I think religios pple are stupid on purpose. I mean what if the statutes say the age of consent is 2yrs? r u telling me there is nothing in your holy mind that kicks in when you being a 30yr old man are forcing your penis into a nine year old crying child???!!!
U assholes are such cheuvanist pigs, what tha fuck makes u think u have the right to ALLOW women to do anything, U dont own women muthafukka and u can tell that to your fake pedofile god too coz he duznt seem to know it either!
hello!!...are you stupid? in europe laws as such, of how old for sex...set by the european union is (16) in every european country with the european union,...and even before the european union the youngest was actually (14) years of age even in holland same as italy/britain/spain/russia/other IN EUROPE!! and the laws of 14 of allowing sexual conduct/marriage goes back to the dark ages in europe/medieval europe same as in a LOT of european ANCIENT SOCIETIES LOOK UP WIKIPEDIA MARRIAGES IN EUROPE!!
The word Allah means god in Arbic. He wasn't no pagan god in Arabia, the Arabs knew of the one true god from the religion of Abraham but over time they started to ascribe partners to him by worshiping idols etc
A Muslim catering manager who was asked to handle pork sausages and bacon is bringing a claim for religious discrimination against the Metropolitan Police.
Hasanali Khoja was told he would be expected to handle pork products when he started a new job at the Empress State Building in Earls Court, west London.
An informal agreement has been reached but Mr Khoja, who launched his claim last year, wants it to be formalised.
An employment tribunal in Watford will consider his claim in a hearing
Mr Khoja, who has worked for the force since 2005, had previously worked at Hendon Police College in north west London, but was excused from touching pork products due to his religion.
As a senior catering manager, he does not cook on a regular basis, but is expected to handle food, his lawyer, Khalid Sofi, said.
Mr Sofi said the informal agreement to excuse Mr Khoja from handling pork products was made in June last year year after he spent a period on
I would never set foot in Saudi Arabia, witch trial, pedophiles marrying child brides, death for adultery, wife beating is not just allowed but encouraged,can't wear a cross, but you are allowed to build mosques here. They are so backward i am suprised they have opposable thumbs.
Why is it that the lowest dregs,criminals are attracted to Islam. Must be all the violence.
Demelza12345 3 weeks ago
Almost everything in this video is lies.
And worse, Bilal Philips endorses pedophilia.
Totally sick and immoral.
killer4hire 1 month ago
disgusting how this man has the nerve to even try and defend what was said in the programme. taken out of context? what a load of BS, you cant deny what they said and no amount of context is a defence. besides how are we meant to know what this man says is true, after all muslims are allowed to lie if it defends and/or promotes islam. how can you trust anything these religious leaders say is true
thedarknesscallingme 1 month ago
also this bloke is lying again not many nine year olds go through puberty even today the most common age of puberty is around 11, in the dark ages it would have been older as in them days they lacked a proper diet and didn't have meat pumped with hormones that is a scientific fact look it up if you do not believe me, also beheading people was normal in the darkages, does that make that ok too, oh wait that still happens in islamic countries..
djvision20022000 2 months ago
haha whenever a moslem gets caught out they claim its bias or out of context its like a christian saying oh these poor catholics they fiddled with little kids but it was taken out of context, thats the difference between civilized people and moslems we dont condone it we don't like it and when we find the bastards we put em in prison..
djvision20022000 2 months ago
By UK law Islam teaches paedophilia.... But they fear jail as they fear Allah....
Thanks Channel4 for showing us the real face of Islam in UK!!!
pierredenslow 3 months ago
The age of consent in England and Wales is 16 regardless of sexual orientation and/or gender, as specified by the Sexual Offences Act 2003. However, if person A is over the age of 18 and in a position of trust over person B who is under the age of 18, it is illegal for A to engage in sexual activity with B.
pierredenslow 3 months ago
The vast majority of Muslims I meet are at least partially deceptive and truly believe that it is morally permissible to lie to anyone they even think isn't Muslim - and apparently they can tell if someone is a Christian or a Buddhist, etc on sight. "Tactical dishonesty" in Islam is called Al-taqiyya. Muhammed gave permission for one of his servants to lie in order to commit murder! Since their prophet is their sole example of how one should live, lying, murder & pedophilia are now acceptable.
VoxCor 3 months ago
@Glurkster Youve based your entire view of Islam on a channel 4 half hour documentary showing a minority of muslims - and you say you 'heard from islam', stupid.
SSEEEEEAAAAANNNNNNNN 3 months ago
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Great responce. Islam is the only way to paradise. the one and only true religion no matter how much u people try to make Islam look bad, ur never going to succeed coz Islam the the world's fastest growing religion! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
1234theafghans 7 months ago
Great responce. Islam is the only way to paradise. the one and only true religion no matter how much u people try to make Islam look bad, ur never going to succeed coz Islam the the world's fastest religion! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
1234theafghans 7 months ago
Weak response.
Very weak.
Islamic style.
hatebigots1 7 months ago
@sunniboy10 The quran is the LEAST peaceful text I've ever read.
kusalaviro 7 months ago
these are the pigs they are growing in numbers and they are fanatical they are coming and the world is doing nothing about it maybe some day they will see what is happening and throw political correctness away maybe someday they will save them selves but it will most likely be to late
tomgibson605 8 months ago
@sunniboy10 peaceful?islam?LOL
"i was ordered to fight all men until they say 'There is no god but Allah.'" "The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them." Koran 9: 30
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an."
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood."
homosexuals :"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to"
"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." (vol. 9, p. 45)
1234570210 9 months ago 2
@sunniboy10 believe me i was ok with islam before I researched . . . why would i appreciate it more after finding out about the sharia law?? r u nuts?! 40% of the MUSLIMS in Britain support this . .additionally i have come across many quotes of Koran that simply order muslim to kill/hurt different people . . .IS IT REALLY THE RELIGION OF PEACE? HELL NO
1234570210 9 months ago
@sunniboy10 i researched about islam and this is what made me HATE IT SO MUCH
i realy had no problem with it before i got exposed
1234570210 9 months ago
Death to islam.
crappyvideosforyou 11 months ago
@crappyvideosforyou " Death to Islam " So say all of us. see w ww.thereligionofpeace[.]com
simba1936 10 months ago
The UK really needs to make solid propaganda against Islam at this moment its weak, even then with the propaganda against Islam, converts are the highest ever. Maybe they need Hollywood style movies in the UK get the hate up a little there's plenty of thick bastards out there they could scoop up.
muds4u 1 year ago
You can't defend the Islamics in the Undercover Mosque segment, they said what they said, face it.
Allahpeanutbuttersan 1 year ago 8
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SuperFeimer 1 year ago
Listening to muslims complain of "islamophobia" is rather like listening to a rapist complain of animosity towards rapists.
capitalsho 1 year ago 5
No friend, it has revealed the vile tripe of the cult of Mohammedism.
Another Mohammeden who can't afford a razor to shave with - stip living in the 7th.Century mate! Camels and dates don't mean anything in New York or London!
trackieben 1 year ago
bilal phillips is a dirty wahhabi. wahhabi are responsible for the killing of millions of Muslims in Algeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia...
ALL MUSLIMS UNITED AGAINST wAHHABIS !
ibnmuslim3 1 year ago
Bilal phillips and other muslims do no bother with such a kaffir film this is clearly to cause more islamophobia and stir and the fact that they did on the first day of ramadan proved they were out to annoy the muslim viewers in the uk, it was quite while ago but damn it peed me off,.turning on the tv and first thing see that trash on tv, their kaffir what do you expect!
howzindahouse 1 year ago 2
The programm did not CLAIM this - it SHOWED IT ON CAMERA
Stop lying to yourself you muslim bitches.
blackpajamas1 1 year ago
A report about the problem of forced marriage in the Islamic community in their own website is not credible? ..............
it was not in the website of geert wilders but in some kind of a muslim community website. I just googled it up.
1000 cases is not much? its a lot. and were talking about the 1st world. Imagine what would be the ratio in the islamic world.
I actually personally know a woman forced to marry her uncle when she was 15. he was 40.
NuBemet 1 year ago
(forced) marriage of children to old men is a disgusting travesty of human relations.
NuBemet 1 year ago
@NuBemet There is no such thing as forced marriage in islam. In Qu'ran it states "O you believe! you are forbidden to inherit women against their will; and you should not treat them with harshness" Allah clearly states there should be no forced marriage in islam.
sth119 1 year ago
@sth119 if you want to be taken seriously, you should say that there SHOULD not be such a thing as forced marriage in Islam. But your quote of the Quran is hardly an argument nor a proof against what everybody knows: that forced marriage is widespread in the Muslim world.
Reality is what counts, not what is written in the Quran.
NuBemet 1 year ago
@NuBemet What you are not aware of is forced marrige takes place in cultures which are not of the muslim faith what Islam provides is for the woman to have the right to chose whomever she wants to marry without being being coerced into a marriage. If this forced marriage happens then they are breaking the laws of Allah and i am sure any sincere and faithful muslim would not dare to break the laws of Allah.
sth119 1 year ago
@sth119
go to muslimparliament (dot) org (dot) uk (slash) forcedAsianmarriages.htm
1,000 in the UK alone. millions worldwide.google is your friend.
welcome to reality dude.
Forced marriage might be against Islam in your view, but factually it is widespread in the Islamic world. and in Islamic societies in western countries!
NuBemet 1 year ago
@NuBemet First of all i am not a dude. Secondly just because it is on a website does not mean it carries credibility. When was this study carried out?, by whom was this study carried out? . This questions need to answered first of all.Also being asian does not equal being a musim, also 1000 is a tiny percentage compared to the millions of muslim in the UK though you claim its widespread. .
sth119 1 year ago
@NuBemet As i stated earlier, forced marriage occurs in cultures that are not of the islamic faith and some religious faith. The difference is Islam provides the solution to forced marriages as stated earlier
sth119 1 year ago
@sth119 What do you consider as the muslim world? You claim forced marriage is widespread in the muslim world, what evidence do you have of such claim. And if there was such a thing and then they are breaking the commandments of the Qu'ran and as muslims we take breaking of the commandments seriously
sth119 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading, this is a welcome response against a totally irresponsible dispatch production by this tosser David H. who had no objective other than whipping up hatred, fear and mass hysteria against the Muslim population.
FlyingDutchman65 1 year ago
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You are fucking SICK!!! Only a brainwashed fuckhead looking through the eyes of a perverted ideology would make excuses for pedophilia. A pre-pubescent child should NEVER be married off to an old man... EVER!!! This is why islam is incompatible with the west because it's incompatible with our innate human morality...
kusalaviro 1 year ago 10
@kusalaviro Brother what morality are you talking about? Teens disrespect parents, pre-marriage sex, drugs, alcohol, rape, name a crime and you got it there. If that society is moral and holds dear the issue of morality, I'm grateful that i'm not part of it..
LosTL0rD 10 months ago
@LosTL0rD Those crimes you listed exist everywhere and are condemned in the west as much as anywhere else. Why would you imply that they are part of 'western morality' as though we approve of them? Think about what you're saying...
kusalaviro 10 months ago
@LosTL0rD ...in Germany Moslems are part of pre-marriage sex, drugs, alcohol, raping drunk kids and all that shit too. So religion doesn't say very much...okay well it looks to me as if sex and raping is more common for people with Moslem culture background. If you really aren't part of such behavior it's good.
In general you could also do negative documentaries about Christianity. If you got a Book with Satan/Jesus/God in it it's all the same shit. The texts might not be bad but people are.
abaex 9 months ago
@kusalaviro what about in the US...where morman fundimentalists are forcing their 11 yr old daughters to marry 50 yrs old men how already have like 10 wives.....maybe the west should sort its own problems out first before judging the Prophet....and secondly only a 100 yrs ago europian moncahy were forcing their children to marry at very young ages.....please educate yourself before making judgements about a biased programme...i suggest you try reading there are alot of free sources online...
Dralleful 8 months ago
@Dralleful Don't try to justify the crimes of one group by outlining the transgressions of another. They are ALL bad and all you've achieved is to group islam in with other perverts who deserve our condemnation...
kusalaviro 8 months ago
@kusalaviro i think i maybe explained myself badly.kusalaviro..your first comment seemed to be pinning accusations to Islam and i was trying to explain to you that only a few hundered years young people getting married was common becuase the mortality rate was extreamly high until vaccinations and antibiotics were developed. And i wanted to tell you that you came to an Islamic vidio to make comments and i think if you are passionate about protecting kids there are kids today who are suffering!
Dralleful 8 months ago
@Dralleful Can you hear yourself? You're making excuses to defend a pedophile. Only religion makes people do things like that. You would NEVER defend a 57 year old man having sex with a 9 year old girl in ANY other context but once it's under the banner of 'religion', well, any and all crimes will be justified. Aside from that, your excuse was bullshit anyway, it was NOT common, you just want to believe that. Try to provide evidence...
kusalaviro 7 months ago
@kusalaviro look your getting it so wrong again, ill give you a list of child marriage ....1396 Richard II married Isabel of france when she was 7, christine de pisam was a child bride, grace of Seleby = married at age 4, all children of Henery II married when they were babies, sovient union collapse led to a surge of child weddings becuase people could not afford to keep their daughters, Jerry lee lewis married his 13 year old cousin, Loretta lynn married at age 13 to an older man
Dralleful 7 months ago
@Dralleful Wow, you send me a list of other pedophiles and somehow you think that makes it ok for your 'prophet' to rape a 9 year old girl...
kusalaviro 7 months ago
@kusalaviro i sent you a list because you asked for one....your quote Aside from that, your excuse was bullshit anyway, it was NOT common, you just want to believe that. Try to provide evidence... and you should stick to your point you said Islam is incompatible from the western world....your quote This is why islam is incompatible with the west because it's incompatible with our innate human morality... so all i was doing was responding to you....i was not defending anything....i gave you
Dralleful 7 months ago
@Dralleful A few isolated examples are not proof of it being 'common'.
kusalaviro 7 months ago
@kusalaviro an educated answer....can you please also do the same instead of making stupid comments that are not researched....Allah hafiz
Dralleful 7 months ago
@Dralleful Richard II, the butcher of thousands peasants? (and a poof?)
Jerry Lee Lewis was jailed and lost fans because of his lust for kids.
Your defense of pedophilia (it is, despite your denial) is lame.
hatebigots1 7 months ago
@kusalaviro alose traditions in different culturs and societies, Ketnnah (judaism), Vedda (sri lanka), Atjeh (indonisia) or yeh and Warren jeff in the yearning for zion ranch force 7-12 yr old girls to get married.....And no i am against peadophilia!!!! i am not defending it but you can hold what happened thousands of years ago which was normal all over the world to todays ...it just doesnt fit!!! please educate yrself in history, culture and religion.....have a nice day! Allah hafiz
Dralleful 7 months ago
@kusalaviro YZF ranch was raided in 2008
Dralleful 8 months ago
Muslims dd not do 9/11 ,it was a false flag operation (I'm non muslim)
BrimstoneAlpha 1 year ago
what a fucking liar.
StrapOnDildoSexRulez 1 year ago
I thought the age of consent in Holland was sixteen!
susanyana 1 year ago
the man is trying to wriggle out of what he was caught saying. It isnt working is it. He is just a twat
susanyana 1 year ago
FlyGuyRythm
Which part of the world you from. Are you the decended of Gog and Mogog?
Jawakaithkuna 1 year ago
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
Dr Bilial Philips is just islamic window dressing.
The religion is notorious for hating blacks, fact. He is there to appeal as a rally cry to blacks for the asians to hide behind, as usual.
Proof, go to Luton/Watford/Southall/Romford?Bradford and so on and see how many black men are married to pretty asian muslim girls.
This religion thinks human rights are regional, not universal.
Islam, the "jewel in satans crown"
Honour killing anyone???
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
The Glorious Quran has abolished racism in a clear-cut categorical manner. In surat Al-Hujrat, verse 13, we read: 'O mankind! We have created you from a single male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know each other. The most honorable of you in the sight of Allah are surety the righteous." (Al-Hujurat: 13)
06alis1 1 year ago
@06alis1 Tabari II:21"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Ishaq:374"The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.'"
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
Allah also says in the Quran: "O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. (An-Nisa: 1)
06alis1 1 year ago
@06alis1 Tabari II:11"Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Ishaq:450"It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent."
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
According to these Qur'anic verses, Islam stressed the absolute unity in variety of the human race. In his famous Farewell Pilgrimage sermon, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) declared: "O people! You are all to Adam and Adam was made of dust. No Arab is to be preferred over a non-Arab except by virtue of his piety."
06alis1 1 year ago
@06alis1 Ishaq:144"A rock was put on a slave's chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.' I will do so,' said Bakr. I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out."
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Bukhari: V9B89N256"Allah's Apostle said, You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'"
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
In another hadith, he (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Allah does not look at your images or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants."
06alis1 1 year ago
@06alis1 Ishaq:243"I heard the Apostle say: Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Tabari IX:69"Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah's Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us."
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Bukhari:V4B52N137"The Prophet said, Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
@06alis1
Finally, you have not commented on the fact NEVER do we see somalian muslims marry bengali, or pakistani or african.
Or pakistani marry somalian, black, african or bengali.
Infact, hardly, if ever do we see internationa;ity mixed marriages between the same religion of islam.
Do not lie and insult me by citing culture, thats a weak "get out clause"
Religion is above culture, you quote as much as you like, but the evidence is a fact, you do not practice what you preach, FACT!
FlyGuyRhythm 1 year ago
I stopped after 1 minute.
The Undercover Mosque show was already vindicated. Radical islam is being taught in mosques, and when muslims defend it, they just look like radicals themselves.
Print another cartoon, and you will see how many radical muslims are in the UK.
Print it beside a cartoon of Jesus with a bomb for a hat, so its equal treatment. Most christians will chuckle at it, and not be offended. Muslims get offended because its true.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin I guess you would never get offended at anything whatsoever. Am I correct??
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
You are incorrect.
berenjervin 1 year ago
Then do not make so much fuss about Muslim getting offended
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
ok, extending that to how muslims react to 'being offended', you wouldnt mind if I burned down your mosque then?
(I wont, I'm just making a point)
If muslims do not wish to be offended, they should not be in a western country, because criticism makes this world go around.
Being offended is a reaction of the listener, not an action by the speaker.
If you want to stop all offence, you need to stop all speech.
berenjervin 1 year ago
Do you mind when someone throw bomb or supply weapons used to kill people
Finally a very nice way of saying Muslim including those who are born in West should leave the West since only so called native (who are not Muslim) hv right to criticize, but Muslim, no way
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No, thats not what I said. I said the only way to not be offended by anything in the west is to not be in the west.
Everything gets criticized in western countries - including Islam. Thats not going to change.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Since everything get criticized in West, learn to tolerate criticism from Muslim
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Who isnt tolerant?
Are people burning down mosques?
What about killing muslims?
Marching in the streets with "Behead those that support islam" signs?
Tolerance doesnt mean "shut up and dont talk about islam".
It means you have the right to say them, and get criticized back for what you say.
And its not the criticism that people are talking about. Its about the terrorism/jihad that seems to come with every group of muslims.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin yes you are right they are people killing as well as bombing Muslims
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
yes, we have 99 names for this. Some of them are
Justice
Revenge
Fending off religious fanatics
I think you got the idea
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No, thats the islamic view. Didnt the reaction to a cartoon tell you that?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Well in reaction to cartoon, no one bombed civilian population. No one pretended to be champion of human right. No one supported oppresive regime
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No one would expect that from decent people. Saying you didnt bomb civilians over a cartoon is your example of reasonableness?
Muslims rioted over that cartoon, destroyed innocent people's property (who had nothing to do with the cartoon), and have even threatened to kill him.
And you think its some kind of "defense" to say "Well, we didnt kill anybody, so we really are the good guys?"
And do you really want to bring up human rights? Seriously?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
And is an islamic country an oppressive regime? Absolutely. How are non muslims treated in an islamic state?
Seek mental help, because the viewpoint you have is evidence of brainwashing.
Yes I am serious.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
sameer9900 1 year ago
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@berenjervin And Your idea of Justice and Revenge includes bombing civilian population and pretending to be champion human right and then support oppresive regime. Interesting!!
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Its not justice and revenge. Its muslims being told not to do it again.
And seriously, I'd stop talking about human rights until muslims learn something about it.
And which oppressive regime is being supported? Something tells me you consider responding to a terrorist attack as oppressive.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Ahh yes, lets change the topic, switch it to violence, then totally misinterpret what someone said to show that muslims are oppressed.
You need a reading comprehension course, because a 5 year old can see through simple stunts like this
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin 5 year old can read through this stunt, but yet you seem to have hard time facing truth
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
How about you tell me the truth, and lets work through it point by point.
My guess is you will change the topic and just keep trying to tell me I know nothing.
So, you up for the challenge?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin You kept talking as if muslim doing bad thing and non muslim doing nothing and when I responded, I change the topic. Nice
Go ahead please, but I would not tolerate you controlling the course of this challenge
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
I gave you full control to pick the topic. How is that controlling?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Just go ahead and tell me how I am wrong when I talk about some countries bombing civilian population
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Let me break it down for you.
Bad guy sets up rocket launchers in a school yard.
Good guy sees rocket launcher
Good guy shoots missle at rocket launcher
Kids in school die.
If you put people into a position of choosing "Your kids" vs "their kids", well, your kids die.
See how that works?
Stop whining, because its muslims that are killing civilians, not the people that have no choice.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Those so called good guys pretend that they see rocket launcher where there is no rocket launcher. Probably that is why they bombed UN building and they destroyed one of the doctors home and killed his daughters. Later by their own admission they said they were wrong as far as doctor house was concerned. Recently there soldier even use human shield..
Now did u recent video of soldier killing journalist in Iraq.
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Well, I guess it all ends well - no one gets hurt.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
ok, now lets flip this around.
Why dont you complain when mujahadeen bomb your citizens?
I never hear anyone talking about that. Why?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin well how do you know that I do not complain. At least you guys are happy when wedding party are attacked by missile and blockade is imposed on civilian population and when people are killed
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Well, for one, you are still alive.
But I take your point. I said YOU and it wasnt a reasonable comment.
What my intention was to say (and I didnt come close to it) was that muslims in general never criticize or complain about other muslims - its always complaints against non muslims. Not universally true, there are RARE exceptions, and you may be one of them.
Muslims all over the west go bananas over a cartoon, but crickets at terrorism.
What would you infer?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin You are not happy about your own people dying, but you are happy over Muslim dying. Now you tell me what do you infer? Muslim countries are helping you guys "in war against terror" and then you have guts to say Muslim are not doing enough. Muslims clerics are giving fatwa aganinst terorrism while you are endorsing killing of Muslim and then you have audacity to say Muslim are not doing enough
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
How are muslims helping? When you defend the radical islamic view on web sites, are you helping? Muslims constantly demonize and barrage their people with propaganda telling them the US is stalking them and wanting to kill them, is that helping?
Many muslims are 2 faced. They say one thing to the world, then promote jihad within the muslim community.
And muslims like you defend islam via propaganda over the lives of people dying because of it.
Thanks for the "help".
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Well then can you list countries who are helping US "war on terror"? Are these muslim countries? And surprisingly people like you still pretending muslim are "not doing enough to stem terrorism" and yet at the same time endorsing killing and bombing of Muslim (that is what you did earlier post). That is real sign of hypocrisy.
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No, you can compile a list as well as I can.
There are some muslim countries like Pakistan. Funny how despite billions of dollars in support to fight terrorism, the Taliban is able to still freely move in and out of Pakistan at will.
I make a lot of posts. Spell out what hypocrisy you think I'm saying, and I'll explain it
Yes I support the war against radical islam. I've never seen a war where innocent people didnt die. Its a tragic consequence of war. Doesnt mean the war isnt req
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin It is not more funnier that in Afghanistan (which has been occupied by NATO and US since 2001 ), Taliban still roam freely at will despite massive amount of money spent by coaliton forces itself or maybe you do not know about this fact. Actually it is not just Pakistan, which is helping in this war on terror. There are also other muslim countries yet people like you still do not know about this and pretend Muslim are not doing enough.
Of course people like you support illegal war
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Whose law says its illegal to defend yourself from terrorism?
And muslims ARENT doing enough.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Whose law say that it is legal to invade countries on a pack of lies and without producing evidence. I have shown ample evidence to show Muslim are doing more than enough, but if you want to bury your head in sand, then it is your choice
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Which country was invaded on a pack of lies?
And muslims ARENT doing enough. Organizations like CAIR and others are to busy suing corporations that "insult islam" to bother with trivial crap like stopping terrorism.
Name one thing CAIR (or any other muslim organization) has done to counter terrorism.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Was not Iraq invaded on a pack of lies? Why you are bringing in organization like CAIR which does not have constitutional power to stop anything? At best they can file a suit in court. Such Organizations are for protecting civil right of Muslim NOT countering terrorism and they have been established long before 9/11. Only muslim countries have such power and they are clearing helping US in countering terrorism by waging war
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Nope. Its only a "pack of lies" if you want to dismissed what happened, and the way it happened.
I bring up CAIR because its a muslim organization that has ties to terrorists, and spends it time sueing over the slightest perceived injustice to muslims.
In fact, it actively sets companies up for lawsuits, then - given the terrorist ties - is probably funding terrorism to push islam on others.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin why dont u go to court/Congress/White House and then ask them to declare CAIR as a terrorist since they are involved in" terrorism/illegal work"? It will be easy for you since you have a lot of proof or maybe there is not any.
Iraq was invaded because US claimed "it had WMD", but in the end US did not find any. So US lied!!
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
I dont need to. CAIR and many other muslim organizations are already being investigated.
And many members of CAIR are already in jail for terrorism related crimes.
In fact, as soon as CAIR was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator to the 9/11 attack, it changed its name to CAIRAN (pronounced Karen).
The US did not lie. Saddam used WMD against the kurds, and gave every appearance of having WMDs. In fact, he even had 6 months to clean up before the invasion started.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Why are you even defending CAIR? Its a sleaze-ball organization that even fleeces muslims in america out of money.
Its funny how you are so quick to defend an organization that you know supports terrorism. Or you support an organization you know nothing about. Is it because you support muslims over others, regardless of what they do?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
CAIR is not about protecting civil rights of muslims, since muslims themselves are victims of illegal activities (like ripping them off for money to fund jihad).
CAIR is about pushing islamic culture into america by any and every means possible. And right now, it an "energizer bunny" of lawsuits against americans in any way shape or form it can get money.
Go read up on CAIR's legal history and you will see its a terrorist front to generate money.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin At least three of Muslim countries are waging war against terrorism in their countries. Other Muslim countries are arresting terrorist and at least one of them even went as far as handing over it citizens to USA on mere suspicion. Furthermore there have been fatwa by Muslim scholar in India, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and in Western countries about condemning terrorism.
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
The world is full of muslim/muslim violence. For example, Sunni vs Shia violence.
Just because sunnis are calling shias terrorists and fighting them doesnt mean they are out to stop terrorism. They are just out to stop it when its directed at them.
Given the chance, many of those same muslims would force Sharia law down everyone elses throat. And there is a lot of evidence to support this. All you have to do it spend the time researching it.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Classic example of changing topic from "Muslim not doing enough" to "Sunni/Sha violence". I already gave you example of Muslim condemning terrorism even when it is not directed at them, but ignorant will alway ignore it.
Given the chance, ppl like you would invade more countries on a pack of lies and will only want freedom of expression/human right for themselves NOT for other. For you Muslims are guilty until proven innocent
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No, you have claimed their are, but havent shown anything. I'm all ears though.
Besides, we already know not every muslim is a terrorist, so showing me non violent muslims says nothing about terrorism.
I can show you lots of peaceful americans....does that mean they didnt invade Iraq?
No, muslims are innocent until proven guilty. But Islam has been proven guilty, so when someone stands up and says "I believe in Islam", that tells me they support intolerance and violence.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Well first of all I did not talk about common Muslim; I was talking about Muslim government and religious authorities and about their stance against terrorism. You showing me a lot of peaceful americans is irrelevant. What matter is the state policy of America NOT "a lot of peaceful americans". Oh muslims are innocent until proven guilty; probably that is why there is still Guatanamo bay and some muslim being put in jail without charge.
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Peaceful religious authorities like this guy?
watch?v=T_skDkag_Sw
You missed my point. Just because there are peaceful muslims doesnt mean ALL muslims are peaceful.
Muslims in Gitmo have been caught red handed committing terrorism.
So, basically you are saying "muslims are innocent until proven guilty", but "all americans are guilty".
I see. Thats pretty one sided and racist wouldnt you think?
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Islam is an intolerant and violent political and religious system.
The more a muslim adheres to Sharia law, the more intolerant and violent he will be.
So when you stand up and demand Sharia law, you are pretty much saying you support the violence and barbarism that islam preaches.
You cant have it both ways. You either support it, or you arent following the Quran, hadiths, and traditions of Islam.
Its that simple.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin Muslim by definition is the one who believe in Islam. So berenjervin the prosecutor has already pronounced the verdict that Islam & Muslim are guilty. Is this your own standard?
It would be good if you pursue your cause against wrongdoing of American state policy
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Islam is guilty, because it keeps producing violent terrorists.
Not all muslims are guilty.
A violent political and religious doctrine like islam is not a person, so does not enjoy the rights of a person.
Show me the "wrongdoing american state policy".
Are you referring to the policy of defending itself against terrorist attacks?
Seriously, show me the policy you disagree with.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin you keep around in circle and ask same question. I already pointed out some of few "wrongdoing american state policy". Classic example is Iraq, which was invaded on a pack of lies. Now Gitmo where almost all of prisoners have not been charged. Now I know you will steer off this discussion and then you will ask same question that what has American done. It is like killing a people and then asking why do relatives of those people killed hate us. Keep your head buried in sand
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
But, I will agree with you that not all muslims are terrorists, jihadists, or violent, or whatever "negative" adjective you want to apply. Its just not that simple.
One of the first things people who look realize is that there is a significant "two faced" attitude within the muslim community.
To grossly oversimpliy...
there are good muslims
there are bad muslims that work hard to look like good muslims
and there are bad muslims
Its often hard to tell the good guys from the bad
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
I'm never happy about seeing someone die. Period. Not even convicted mass murderers. In the west, life is precious and cherished, and not easily given up by most people.
But, I'm an atheist, so i dont believe there is an afterlife. That means I get one shot at this life, then my view of the world becomes the same as it was the day before I was born....nothing.
So when I see someone dying, thats what I see. A person ceasing to exist in any way shape or form, and its not pleasant.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin You are not happy about seeing someone die and yet you are justifying the murder and bombing of civilian population. If you are not happy with someone dying, then you should condemn NOT justify "collateral damage".
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
No, i'm justifying defending a country from terrorism and jihad.
When you put israelis into a position to kill the people launching rockets at them, or letting their own citizens die, well, you do the math.
Stop whining about it. Because you are doing it to yourself.
I'm justifying STOPPING your citizens from being killed by bloodthirsty muslim terrorists.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@sameer9900
In a war situation, civilians get killed. It happens in every war that has ever happened. If someone sets up a rocket launcher or mortar in the middle of civilians, they are forcing the enemy to chose between which civilians die.
Its always the enemies civilians over your own. Always.
When your enemy has better tech than you, and you force them into that decision, you just killed your own civs.
Doesnt mean it was pleasant. Just better than the alternative.
berenjervin 1 year ago
@berenjervin occupyy a land, attack on the pack of lies, force a war, then civilian get killed and then say oh in a war situation, civilian get killed. That a very nice excuse. What if someone does not setup rocket launcher and then terrorist state bomb civilian population on a pack of lies as they did recently
sameer9900 1 year ago
@sameer9900
Israel is not occupied land.
After 62 years of jihad, Israel IS justified in taking WB/Gaza/GH.
Israel hasnt started this conflict, muslims have, have started multiple real wars, and continue jihad against israel to this day
"What if" scenarios are not reality.
What if muslims drank jewish blood during ramadan?
See how you can say anything so long as you start with "What if"?
berenjervin 1 year ago
he is doing crime against islam.
shsz1 1 year ago
The guy is really struggling to come up with some lies and play with words.There was this other muslim protecting muslims and saying the movie was out of context. He said that the undercover reporters must have seen and heard all the good teaching of Islam TOO! But they were not but int the film. Ha ha ha! Its like - there is a guy, he is such a good guy, but then he kills 12 people. Hey, lets make a film about how good this guy is and not show the killings.
Muslims dont belong to the west!
TheNewVideos 1 year ago
How can a person be DR. if he is a religious fanatic?
TheNewVideos 1 year ago
he doesnt even know his own religion.. he defends his wahabi clan.. he doesnt even see the truth in the documentary..!
as for DR>.. they buy that these days!!!
12imams 1 year ago
i love bacon buttys,,
wiganjoe 2 years ago
u ppl are ignorant, u will never understand ur minds are sick and twisted full of disrespect, u never go into proper research, u just say what come in your head, one day u'll c, mock all u want!!! say all the disgusting things, but one day u'll c. I dnt care if u think i'm a fanatic or if ur gna come up names 4 me, coz that is always expected bu u ppl!! u listen to media so called experts of Islam
mademan4life 2 years ago
In the [1967 c. 60.] Sexual Offences Act 1967—
in subsections (1) and (6) of section 1 (amendment of law relating to homosexual acts in private), for the word eighteen there shall be substituted the word sixteen; and
in section 8 (restriction on prosecutions), for the word twenty-one there shall be substituted the word sixteen
hao1618 2 years ago
"The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16, as specified by the Dutch Criminal Code, Articles 245 and 247, which read: (Art 245) "A person who, out of wedlock, with a person who has reached the age of twelve (12) but not yet sixteen (16), performs indecent acts comprising or including sexual penetration of the body is liable to a term of imprisonment of not more than eight years or a fine of the fifth category."; and (Art 247)
hao1618 2 years ago
It's funny, this guy knows that his religion is messed up morally speaking, but he can't bring himself to admit it
TheFaid 2 years ago
age of consent in Holland is 16 not 12..what the hell u talking about asshole?... as you say, Mohammed 'defined the parameters for marriage in Islam'...principles of marriage and age...so basically can marry any age in Islam (and consumate nearer menstruation)!...this prick is a joke, rather than come out and apologise for the stuff that came out on the documentary he tries talking around it, becos he knows if he disagress then he is disagreeing with his religion..
farqcue 2 years ago
MashaAllah you have made some credible contributions as comments (even though this was a year ago!)
shajaranew 2 years ago
Jazakallahul khairan, lol yh this was a while back.
rukiah 2 years ago
Within Islamic belief, Muhammad is said to have regarded the inner struggle for faith the "greater jihad", prioritizing it over physical fighting. Muslim scholar Mahmoud Ayoub states that "The goal of true jihad is to attain a harmony between islam (submission), iman (faith), and ihsan (righteous living)."[10] Greater jihad can be compared to the struggle that Christians call "resisting sin". This concept of jihad does not correspond to military action.
You can look this up on wikipedia.
shajaranew 2 years ago
Oh, Muhammed said that, huh? Are you aware that this "greater jihad" business comes from a weak hadith from an obscure hadith collection? You want to explain why, throughout the ages, Muslim scholars all over the world have, without fail, somehow gotten the impression that jihad has something to do with fighting for the faith? Were these Islamic scholars idiots, or do you think they were merely working off of authoritative hadiths from canonical hadith collections and the Qur'an?
TheFaid 2 years ago
Just because a girl starts menstruating, she will not be married. In Islam everyday practices like that come second to following Islam and the 5 pillars - faith, prayers, giving charity to the poor, fasting and pilgrimage. There are a lot of Islamic cultures who would never allow their daughters to be married at to young an age, because they do not feel they are psychologically / personally ready for it. They would probably agree with you, but they would not agree with you insulting their faith.
shajaranew 2 years ago
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Indeed..do u know even Abu Bakar protested at first when pedophile Muhammad wants to marry child aisha.....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
I do not know why anyone would be so disrespectful to a father's child. Before people get married in Islam, both families talk to each other to discuss whether the marriage will be pure in God's eyes. A 50yr old's man's intentions to marry a nine year old would have not righteous intent. In fact, it sounds like a proposal that would lead both parties away from Islam and cause tremendous sin. I believe Dr Bilal Philips would hope for his daughter to enter a marriage that was religiously upright.
shajaranew 2 years ago
Im sure ud like a 50yr old man taking ur little 9yr olds cherry wouldnt u Dr..i mean, it would be okay if shes started menstruating right?..
If a girl starts menstruating at 5yrs old, wld that make it ok in Islam too?...
farqcue 2 years ago
assalamalaikum brother bilal may Allah bestow His mercy upon you and please don't stop responding to these misleading videos like dispatches..and also encourage our other brothers in islam to do so! may allah help us to eradicate misconceptions of islam aameen!
aty8skandy 2 years ago
Check this 1895 report about the USA:-
The publication of "The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon" directed the attention of American reformers to the age of consent in their country and they were not pleased with what they found. The age of consent in the U.S., determined by each state, ranged from seven years, in Delaware, to an average of 10 to 12 years...
Quote "ranged from seven years, in Delaware"
OneGodNoPartners 2 years ago
Wow, so Islam is only 114 years behind the curve... awesome!
TheFaid 2 years ago
sometimes I think religios pple are stupid on purpose. I mean what if the statutes say the age of consent is 2yrs? r u telling me there is nothing in your holy mind that kicks in when you being a 30yr old man are forcing your penis into a nine year old crying child???!!!
magaqetyuwa 2 years ago
U assholes are such cheuvanist pigs, what tha fuck makes u think u have the right to ALLOW women to do anything, U dont own women muthafukka and u can tell that to your fake pedofile god too coz he duznt seem to know it either!
magaqetyuwa 2 years ago
just to let ya know peoples, (I) know my history as (I) (STUDY) history/genetics at oxford university!!
Phobossos 2 years ago
hello!!...are you stupid? in europe laws as such, of how old for sex...set by the european union is (16) in every european country with the european union,...and even before the european union the youngest was actually (14) years of age even in holland same as italy/britain/spain/russia/other IN EUROPE!! and the laws of 14 of allowing sexual conduct/marriage goes back to the dark ages in europe/medieval europe same as in a LOT of european ANCIENT SOCIETIES LOOK UP WIKIPEDIA MARRIAGES IN EUROPE!!
Phobossos 2 years ago
The word Allah means god in Arbic. He wasn't no pagan god in Arabia, the Arabs knew of the one true god from the religion of Abraham but over time they started to ascribe partners to him by worshiping idols etc
amman678 2 years ago
Islam does not allow the circumcision of women.
Tell the west to stop meddling in the affairs of their countries and they would happily leave in the millions.
amman678 2 years ago
Its like the guy in the video said why is the age for consensual sex in france 15 when in England this would be considered to be padeophilia.
Also the age of consent in the world 100 years ago was 10. Accusing these people of being paedos is absurd.
amman678 2 years ago
i wish i hadnt wasted 9 mins of my life listen to that guy talk bull shit :(
rich2high2 2 years ago
A Muslim catering manager who was asked to handle pork sausages and bacon is bringing a claim for religious discrimination against the Metropolitan Police.
Hasanali Khoja was told he would be expected to handle pork products when he started a new job at the Empress State Building in Earls Court, west London.
An informal agreement has been reached but Mr Khoja, who launched his claim last year, wants it to be formalised.
An employment tribunal in Watford will consider his claim in a hearing
facejapan 2 years ago
which is expected to last two weeks.
Mr Khoja, who has worked for the force since 2005, had previously worked at Hendon Police College in north west London, but was excused from touching pork products due to his religion.
As a senior catering manager, he does not cook on a regular basis, but is expected to handle food, his lawyer, Khalid Sofi, said.
Mr Sofi said the informal agreement to excuse Mr Khoja from handling pork products was made in June last year year after he spent a period on
facejapan 2 years ago
special leave from his job.
that was on the news today just showing how daft muslims are and how much of benifit cheats they truely are!", we need to deport them all.
also his quote; i'm sure it did more harm than good, sounds like your classic islamic muslims then.
facejapan 2 years ago
Give it up, they said it we heard it.
Deport abbu Isamma
What the f@ck marrying nine year olds ?
You need professional help
I would never set foot in Saudi Arabia, witch trial, pedophiles marrying child brides, death for adultery, wife beating is not just allowed but encouraged,can't wear a cross, but you are allowed to build mosques here. They are so backward i am suprised they have opposable thumbs.
whyshouldI303 2 years ago 2