@alialbertico: You're right. Cage projected sidereal charts (star charts) over empty music sheets, and inked in notes wherever there was a celestial body. Then he used I Ching operations to decide which staves carried which clefs and how they were going to assign to different instruments in the orchestra. The performance was a failure, and Cage's orchestra rebelled along with the public. Quite a man, Cage!
One of my most favorites in Cage works I love in general ! The proof music, chance, unexpected means of composition and freedom in a form can bring out a masterpiece, and this is not the only one in Cages works of course !
Well i had an idea just wasnt sure which one ,it has been quite a few years since i studied his work which by the way i didnt go in deep. Thanks a lot for the clarification !!
not sure, but i doubt it -- the technique with his other star chart pieces (etudes australes, etudes boreales, freeman etudes) was to lay staff paper transparencies over the star charts, using i ching operations to determine density and therefore which stars to plot onto the music. this also had to be weighed against the individual possibilities of the instrument (how many notes at once, which ones, etc). there's no score to atlas, as with most of his orchestral works, only individual parts....
@alialbertico If that is true, than this would be the "chance" element in the piece. At the time, Cage was using random things like imperfections in paper to indicate where to place dots on the paper, over which he would superimpose a grid. But you have to remember also that there is some "indeterminacy" in the performance - that is, Cage left the performer some choices in how to interpret each symbol on the page of the score. Thus it is not likely that two performances would ever be the same.
@alialbertico: You're right. Cage projected sidereal charts (star charts) over empty music sheets, and inked in notes wherever there was a celestial body. Then he used I Ching operations to decide which staves carried which clefs and how they were going to assign to different instruments in the orchestra. The performance was a failure, and Cage's orchestra rebelled along with the public. Quite a man, Cage!
v1i2s3k4y5 2 months ago
One of my most favorites in Cage works I love in general ! The proof music, chance, unexpected means of composition and freedom in a form can bring out a masterpiece, and this is not the only one in Cages works of course !
RADIOKLOW 5 months ago
let me extend my condolences to you personally, but tell Atlas Eclipticalis it was the most thrilling experience of my life"
sunmosphere 8 months ago
What's the picture?
Thrash0Jazz0Assassin 1 year ago
Unfortunate...
koreankayagum 1 year ago
good upload by the way! thanks ...
scriabinwasmydad 2 years ago
I love it
WillyDarko 2 years ago
Well i had an idea just wasnt sure which one ,it has been quite a few years since i studied his work which by the way i didnt go in deep. Thanks a lot for the clarification !!
alialbertico 2 years ago 2
If I'm not mistaking this piece was composed laying a map of the stars over a pentagram and the result was this.
alialbertico 2 years ago
not sure, but i doubt it -- the technique with his other star chart pieces (etudes australes, etudes boreales, freeman etudes) was to lay staff paper transparencies over the star charts, using i ching operations to determine density and therefore which stars to plot onto the music. this also had to be weighed against the individual possibilities of the instrument (how many notes at once, which ones, etc). there's no score to atlas, as with most of his orchestral works, only individual parts....
minirausch 2 years ago 3
@alialbertico If that is true, than this would be the "chance" element in the piece. At the time, Cage was using random things like imperfections in paper to indicate where to place dots on the paper, over which he would superimpose a grid. But you have to remember also that there is some "indeterminacy" in the performance - that is, Cage left the performer some choices in how to interpret each symbol on the page of the score. Thus it is not likely that two performances would ever be the same.
DerangedRanger1 1 year ago