Are you high? Or do you not understand what "Original and well* constructed" even mean? Anyways, I encourage you to take another listen. Converge really grows on you if you focus on details, as well as just let it play.
I think this is a good example of Ballou's drum recording/mixing assuming he did it himself on this record. The acoustic and trriggered sounds are pretty clear. If you have a keen ear I think you can hear the blend on the kick and toms. It's very effective at cutting through the loud, dense mix but not as fake or over massaged as many metal recordings. Still, I would love to hear a simple acoustic drum mix with a lot of the room for a raw live sound. I read about his methods in TapeOp.
HAHAHA! Win. No one talked about how Converge might have influenced the killers... It was all "OMG MARILYN MANSON IS DESTROYING THE CHILDREN'S MINDS!!!!!"
@Baxxter101 A bit late here but I have to say... good. Ok so maybe Converge don't get the credit. That is even if they care. Marlyn Manson and the "Nu Metal" scene get the attention cos that is what they are after. While the downside is it is leaking into and affecting hardcore negatively. At least the core of Hardcore remains intact for the true HC fans. And we can just cut that stuff out and be left alone. We don't really want the negative attention MM and Slipknot get.
lol, you're listening to the wrong genre of music my friend. Most of the time the best way to "follow along" is to have the lyric sheet right there with you while you listen...
:p you misunderstand me. I LOVE there sound. It's so freaking raw. But I only listen to their latest 3 albums because I can differentiate between the words and because the lyrics on the lyric sheet are correct. Rather than how with the other albums, the lyrics are the jist of what he's saying but not what he's really saying. but you can't pick it out because the vocal distortion is too heavy and makes many of the consonant and vowel sounds sound the same :P that's what i was saying
the drumming is a surprisingly essential part of Converge. the idea that they "just have to be fast or hard" makes me wonder if you are actually appreciating this band truly, or just because they are loud and fast
@xxoreficul if you can't tell that the drummer is constructive and intuitive, then you probably either aren't a drummer, or you simply can't tell what hes doing. Ben Koller has a solid style, but there are definitely crazier drummers out there. You obviously are a novice when it comes to music, look up George Kolias or Derrick Roddey and tell me they aren't incredible. Being fast when you're a talented drummer just means you can do everything already and it's the only way to progress.
Haha wtf. These are the correct lyrics... the lyrics to Saddest day are way fucking longer because it's like three times longer than Black Cloud and the lines are much longer whereas these lines are usually two to three words.
Follow the song with the words listed, you'll see.
Most inspirational drummer for me
Mikedrums95 1 month ago
my fingers hurt every time i try to play this song on bass xD
neonman1604 5 months ago
@xxoreficul
Are you high? Or do you not understand what "Original and well* constructed" even mean? Anyways, I encourage you to take another listen. Converge really grows on you if you focus on details, as well as just let it play.
JordovTC 7 months ago 3
black cloud ££££
mdsp00001 1 year ago
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HowNowBrownCow1234 1 year ago
rofl did the lead singers mom not hug him enough when he was a kid?
joker2x 1 year ago
@joker2x ill hug you faggot, lets take this downtown to florida town
TampwnLollipops 9 months ago
man, are they just using feedback to get that flute/whistle sound at 1:20 ?!?! im really curious
tokishreds 1 year ago
@tokishreds Haha - just feedback. ;-)
bobbydj01 1 year ago
@tokishreds
yep, feedback
AICnSP4EVA 10 months ago
I don't know why I don't have this album yet. Same with No Heroes. :|
Press1ToParty 1 year ago
I think this is a good example of Ballou's drum recording/mixing assuming he did it himself on this record. The acoustic and trriggered sounds are pretty clear. If you have a keen ear I think you can hear the blend on the kick and toms. It's very effective at cutting through the loud, dense mix but not as fake or over massaged as many metal recordings. Still, I would love to hear a simple acoustic drum mix with a lot of the room for a raw live sound. I read about his methods in TapeOp.
SkinUnzipper 1 year ago
i got into these guys after i saw columbine on the news.
iLoveOlivaMunn 2 years ago
HAHAHA! Win. No one talked about how Converge might have influenced the killers... It was all "OMG MARILYN MANSON IS DESTROYING THE CHILDREN'S MINDS!!!!!"
Baxxter101 2 years ago
@Baxxter101 A bit late here but I have to say... good. Ok so maybe Converge don't get the credit. That is even if they care. Marlyn Manson and the "Nu Metal" scene get the attention cos that is what they are after. While the downside is it is leaking into and affecting hardcore negatively. At least the core of Hardcore remains intact for the true HC fans. And we can just cut that stuff out and be left alone. We don't really want the negative attention MM and Slipknot get.
Lodestar1977 1 year ago
this is the only record where i can understand him...so i love this one.
converge is cool, but i need to be able to follow along, you know?
darkdaxterVersionZ 2 years ago 7
lol, you're listening to the wrong genre of music my friend. Most of the time the best way to "follow along" is to have the lyric sheet right there with you while you listen...
Baxxter101 2 years ago
:p you misunderstand me. I LOVE there sound. It's so freaking raw. But I only listen to their latest 3 albums because I can differentiate between the words and because the lyrics on the lyric sheet are correct. Rather than how with the other albums, the lyrics are the jist of what he's saying but not what he's really saying. but you can't pick it out because the vocal distortion is too heavy and makes many of the consonant and vowel sounds sound the same :P that's what i was saying
darkdaxterVersionZ 2 years ago
:-P I got'cha man. It is nice to be able to rip your vocal cords apart AND know what you're screaming about.
Baxxter101 2 years ago
exactly^^
darkdaxterVersionZ 2 years ago
@darkdaxterVersionZ no.
JAKEtheuser 1 month ago
The song that got me into Converge.
Goddamn those drums are insane.
CerpinTaxt37 2 years ago
this is a great song. i got in to them from Concubine/Fault and Fracture. now THATS insane
BrootalJuggalo 2 years ago
oh yes!
much people do not care so much at the drums, they just have to be fast or hard or something like this, noone looks at the complexity of percussion
xxoreficul 2 years ago
@xxoreficul
eh?
the drumming is a surprisingly essential part of Converge. the idea that they "just have to be fast or hard" makes me wonder if you are actually appreciating this band truly, or just because they are loud and fast
CosmicTurtle21 2 years ago
ah you misunderstood me :D
most of metalheads want "drums fast and hard"
i want them "fast and hard" but original and good constructed too :)
xxoreficul 2 years ago
@xxoreficul if you can't tell that the drummer is constructive and intuitive, then you probably either aren't a drummer, or you simply can't tell what hes doing. Ben Koller has a solid style, but there are definitely crazier drummers out there. You obviously are a novice when it comes to music, look up George Kolias or Derrick Roddey and tell me they aren't incredible. Being fast when you're a talented drummer just means you can do everything already and it's the only way to progress.
IAintScaredOfNoGhost 9 months ago
@IAintScaredOfNoGhost
well, I AM TELLING, that he is good xD
and yes, they are incredible, and no, im not a drummer :)
pleased? :D
xxoreficul 9 months ago
you fail me is the only record where i can hear what he's saying
benj8706 2 years ago
Jake really got some nasty vocals on this record.
schwarzblatt 3 years ago
only these are the lyrics to the saddest day
kylecasp 3 years ago
no, these are the correct lyrics.
BrootalJuggalo 2 years ago
Haha wtf. These are the correct lyrics... the lyrics to Saddest day are way fucking longer because it's like three times longer than Black Cloud and the lines are much longer whereas these lines are usually two to three words.
Follow the song with the words listed, you'll see.
xSPLENDAx 2 years ago
man you are the shit. You posted all te lyrics. I had this on vinyl so I never knew. Thanks
alejandro15187 3 years ago