idk...but i am sure back in the day people where stronger...this doctor looks pretty week...possabliy befor they started to cut they broke the sternum...these people where experts at what they did...they where not trying to figure out how to get to hart out
It may be an exaggeration but you've got to realize that these were strong warrior priests that had performed thousands of these. Not some weak British surgeon trying it out for the first time on a replica.
El tipo que habla de sacrificios no sabe que no existe prueba arqueológica. Muchos imbéciles arqueólogos sacan historias descabelladas como éstas para ganar reputación. La única reputación que ganan es la de Imbéciles. De aquí a mil años que descubran los cuerpos decapitados por la mafia, también van a decir que hacíamos sacrificios humanos. Ese es el estúpido criterio de los arqueólogos.
@ACERTIXO2002 el codice magliabecchiano los muestra con imagen y escritura e incluso hay algunos mas grotescos donde se le sacaba la piel al sacrificado y el sacerdote se la ponia en cima como si se vistiera con ella y hay algunas estatuillas que lo confirman
Pd: lo que pasa es que aun satanizas los sacrificios rituales y por eso los niegas, ademas tal vez si haya evidencia arqueologica solo que los defeños nos hicieron el favor de sepultarla en bajo su ciudad
Oí nomas! Dudo que hayas leído la historia de mi país y siquiera conozcas su cultura. @tableoynadamas Demuestras tu ignorancia y la exhibes públicamente. La idea de los sacrificios humanos la inventaron los invasores genocidas para justificar sus crímenes, no has leído quién fué el primer imbécil en contar semejante estupidez. Porque lo que describe no coincide con la realidad. Tu les crees a esos imbéciles asesinos, quienes impusieron una religión a base de sangre y fuego.
Seguro también crees en la Guadalupana, otra mentira inventada. @tableoynadamas Quienes sepultaron la ciudad fueron esos malditos invasores, ni eso sabes. Los códices fueron manoseados por religiosos estúpidos y fanáticos. Cómo esperas que le crea a un pueblo imbécil que aceptó esa religión impuesta por tortura con unos códices prostituidos. Ni siquiera has tenido la molestia de estudiar la cultura prehispánica. Lo que eran moralmente, no compagina con los sacrificios.
@ACERTIXO2002 jajaja, creo mas en Hutzilopochtli y ademas dime ¿donde leiste todo eso? ¿en que libro? lo quiero leer, solo que tengo una duda ¿son teorias o realidades? pero tambien falta decir que el territorio Azteca era el mas grande de México y no creo que todos lo sacrificios fueran necesariamente en Tenochtitlan o que siquiera hacia falta un templo para hacerlos
¿Ud. es como aquél imbécil que me comento en un foro que el creía en los sacrificios humanos porque los leyó en 20 libros en inglés? @tableoynadamas Son hechos basados en la realidad. ¿No ha leído que hicieron cuando llegaron los invasores? ¿Acaso sacrificaron a un individuo cuando Cortés hizo la matanza en la Noche triste o murieron cientos por la peste que traían? Ve que fácil es mandar al retrete esa estupidez de los sacrificios humanos. Le falta leer la historia y razonarla.
Tu criterio se basa en códices @tableoynadamas entonces según tú, ¿las imágenes de dioses como Itzpapalótl,Tepeyollotl, son imágenes verídicas? Ves que fácil es exponer la estupidez de tanto imbécil arqueólogo, por ello los llamo imbéciles públicamente. Por que son unos estúpidos. Lea sociología, historia, psicología, la moral es la misma en todo el mundo, ud quiere darnos una idea romántica de los sacrificios, como si la gente no tuviera respeto por la vida. Algo absurdo.
@ACERTIXO2002 bueno las imagenes son interpretaciones e incluso puede que con el peyote vieran a los dioses mientras deliraban y estas equivocado respetaban la vida y por eso hacian los sacrificios para que la ida continuara ademas emborrachaban a los prisioneros con mezcal antes de cada sarificio
Copie y pegue quién le dijo que consumían peyote @tableoynadamas Ud. está atestado de falsedades. El Pulque era la bebida de los dioses y de los reyes. ¿Dónde están los cadáveres? Si de aquí a mil años descubren los 50 mil decapitados, mutilados por la mafia y muertos en accidentes y asesinatos, también van a decir que sacrificábamos gente. Usted no va estar aquí para desmentirlo. Ese es su criterio. Burdo y falto de razón de hechos históricos.
@ACERTIXO2002 y a ti ¿quien te dijo que no consuian peyote? ¿quien te dijo que no hacian sacrificios? quiero leer esos interesantes textos y foros donde se mencionan y si todo lo que nos han dicho de los aztecas es falso ¿por que no pensar que los aztecas son falsos? y los que consumian peyote solo eran los sacerdotes
Pd: se dice que algunos de los sacrificados eran cunsumidos eso SE DICE, pero tambien pienso que como cualquier civilizacion deberian tener fosas cumunes
Muchacho yo nací ahí @tableoynadamas en el valle de Anáhuac y recorrí todos los museos y bibliotecas. No hay prueba alguna de sacrificios, ¿si sabes quién documentó los supuestos sacrificios?¿Ya leíste como era la vida antes de la llegada de los invasores? Sigo esperando que presentes las pruebas de los sacrificio y de que autentifiques el relato que se hizo al respecto.
Te agradezco el documento que me enviaste @tableoynadamas Como tu mismo puedes leer, está cargado de imprecisiones y mentiras.Por un lado dicen que las viudas eran consoladas y por otro lado dicen que a las viudas y los esclavos los sacrificaban por docenas. ¿porque una viuda iría a llorar a su muertito si sabía que la iban a sacrificar? pensando en lo que los espurios relatos dicen la verdad. En todo caso estaría contenta sabiendo que iba a acompañar a su difunto junto con sus esclavos ¿que no?
Porque un fraile, a según, lleno de temor piadoso, @tableoynadamas tenía envidia de otros cronistas y porque quería quedar bien con su Rey? en todo caso tendría que quedar bien con Dios y no con los hombres. Será que era uno mas de esa mafia que usaron la religión como una máquina de dominación, explotando, asesinando y robando lo que no les pertenecía? Su actitud hipócrita no se puede considerar su relato con veracidad. A según ellos hacían sacrificios con muñecos de madera y no de hombres.
Tu escrito también menciona que los esclavos nativos los emborrachaban antes de sacrificarlos,pero el cronista no explica como los asesinaban. @tableoynadamas Para que emborrachar a un esclavo para asesinarlo? un esclavo no tiene ni voz ni voto. También dice que los asesinaban colgándolos.No hay registro de esas forma de muerte en la cultura prehispánica.era la manera como asesinaban esos asquerosos genocidas.Cuando lees los relatos es la crónica de lo que hicieron esas bestias en éstas tierras.
Sus relatos son las crónicas del genocidios que hicieron en éstas tierras @tableoynadamas Los recibieron con Decencia y regalos y por pago les dieron muerte y violencia. Mucha gente que sobrevivió a éstas bestias malditas, preferían suicidarse antes que verse sometidas a las crueles torturas y humillaciones de ésta gente podrida europea.Quizás algunos juraron morirse junto con sus señores, por ahí está la Leyenda del Indio Triste. Esos relatos están cargados de fe religiosa y no son objetivos
Deja de propagar esas estúpidas mentiras de esa gente @tableoynadamas Quienes preservaron los relatos fueron los hijos de esos genocidas y la pútrida iglesia que siempre vio un gran negocio el someter a tantos pueblos para sangrarlos económicamente para beneficio de los europeos. Tal es el caso que siguen robando hasta el día de hoy de todas éstas tierras para llevarse millones de dólares a el Vaticano, ellos son cómplices de ese genocidio y saqueo. No hagas eco a genocidas.
Usted no razona, si hubiese habido sacrificios humanos tendría que haber hileras de cadáveres por todos lados @tableoynadamas No sabe quiénes le quemaron los pies a Cuauhtemoc estando vivo?Quienes hacían concursos para cortar de un tajo la cabeza de un nativo? que va a saber ud. su comentario muestra ignorancia, y como a personas como usted le cambia todavía espejitos por oro. Ud peca de ingenuo, Crédulo.
..yeah europeans did screw up so many things but common!, sacrificing human beings while they're still alive and in the name of god??- that's pretty fucking stupid as well.
jajajaja solo ke seas un SUPER HOMBRE puedes sacar el corazon por debajo de las COSTILLAS con un solo CUCHILLO DE OXIDIANA es IMPOSIBLE aki solo kieren mantener la vercion oficila.......si realmente kieres saver ke dificil es, preguntale a un doctor ke practica autopcias como yo pregunte Y CUANDO YEGES AL CORAZON SE OCUPAN VARIOS VISTURIS CON PUNTA DE CARBONO Y DIAMANTE o pinzas cortadoras KE NO TE ENGAÑEN
Hey they were just practicing Open Heart Surgery on their enemies , Ha ha ha ha Eventualy they Got right Hundreds of years later ! , That's why the First Heart Transplant was Succesfully Performed in Mexico !! Ha ha ha ha ha
I don't think there is any way the Aztecs could cut out a human beating heart in just two minutes, I would like to see them try and cut out my living, beating heart from my body in just two minutes!
wut a bullshit.. 20K people.. how large was their population at 500 years time ago ???? 20K warriors ?? that mus mean, there been about the same number of woman. then also those people that would still be needed to protect their state, govern it, like business men, farmers, pristst, officals.... i think mel gibsons movie"apocalypto" puts a more "real" view
Don't blame Christianity, it never says in the Bible to do that, the people who did were incredibly screwed up and obviously not true believers in God. What they did 'in the name of God' was completely sick and wrong, but that doesn't mean all real Christians are like that.
The Spanish conquistadors and the Aztecs were 2 vastly different cultures who each had different beliefs and who didnt understand or accept each other
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9. City water level proof earthquakes and floods,
10. Solarium 24 tons, carved in cobalt, with superior writing and codices and a system binary (now called icons found in many programs, read by computers with a binary system)
11. Cobalt stone extracted from the volcanoes, hauled from 65 kilometers (40 miles) without using the wheel.
Theses historians are not nahuatlacas, they don't speak Nahuatl. This is not aztec history, this video is a spain version in spanish language.. Use the logic:
1 god in nahuatl, not exist. All dual
2 once the vein is broke, the heart stop. never jump after that.
3 heart remove to assure the next day sun. (Official). Calendar is a cycle never end.
as soon as I saw how the man was laying on the sacrifice altar it looked like that it was designed to make it easy to cut from the lower part of the torso and reach in for the heart.
@xdwere1 well you may not be a racist but if that's what you truly believe then you're something even stupider. You're watching a video about people being murdered with their hearts still beating to pagan gods and you're calling that "fine".
@xdwere1 I wish you were forced to go in time and back to the jungle and live under Aztec rule with no modern amenities. You would be begging to come back home.
On Discovery Civilisation, Discovery Channel's special Aztec Temple of Blood and Spike's Deadliest Warrior episode 13 (Aztec Jaguar warrior vs Zande warrior) some experts and medics simulated Mesoamerican sacrifices with ballistic gel torsos.
Yes, most civilizations had brutality. But in most cases, where Christianity spread peace eventually came. I would need to see evidence of some of the comments posted otherwise. All in all, Christianity brought peace (granted, with some exceptions).
estos historiadores se destacan en hacer creer a todos los del mundo que solo ellos tienen la razon, solo porque son gringos, que no se acuerdan cuando ustedes llegaron a las americas con bandera de corderitos( o peregrinos que lo unico que pensaban era apoderarce de todo el territorio de los indios) y como tales dieron una punalada alos indios en cuanto se descuidaron. ATTE el corderito.
no niego que es parte de la historia de mi pais acazo ustedes no recuerdan la punalada que le dieron a los indios norteamericanos despues de sentirse seguros en un territorio que nunca les ha pertenecido porque en este pais todos somos inmigrantes,y lo ultimo que les digo es que el ser humano equiboco el nombre porque pasaran miles de anos pra que meresca ser eso un ser humano.
A great many ancient civilizations slaughtered mass amounts of people in very short time-frames whether it be in tribal wars, sacrifices or otherwise. This phenomenon happened in practically all parts of the globe. It is also one of the main reasons the Mosiac Law was given to Moses.
huitzilopoxtli wasnt a god, omg this makes me so mad they call him god of war based on what???? do you even know the meaning of the word/name huitzilopoxtli????? come on people!!!
@elmundodelalucha Totalmente de acuerdo. Todo eso acerca de los sacrificios (es una gran mentira) sólo fué una excusa, para asesinar a los aztecas y saquear su reino.
Funny vid! Of course Aztecs went thru the diaphragm to get to the heart, because some victims lived long enough to see their own heart lifted by the priest into the sky. ... How many sacrificial victims did Western civilizations offer to their gods in their wars for oil and profit in the last 100 years? (Like people today who protest wars, the common Aztec didn't appreciate all the blood, gore and smell (!) and there was a mass exodus from the city. The vid didn't accent that part.)
Wrong! The first time was the proper way, is just that the priests knew how to do it, they wouldn't cut the breastbone, they would actually strike it and break through it the first impact, but again, they were trained for the sacrificial ritual unlike this modern surgeons. :/
... Looks like Lemurian monsters sailed to South-America & real people navigated to North-Africa after the great Atlantic flood ... Mummification vs sacrificial rituals, what would the gods prefer more ...
let's build pyramids, temples & write hïeroglyphs for future people to understand ancient times, and let's study the stars to honour the gods. Let's mummify the dead, not massacre alive humans ... Looks like Egypt could teach any other Post - Lemurian civilization in any matter ... Looks like Atlantis's monsters went to America & the real humans to Africa after the great flood ...
well if there intent was to cause as much pain as possible the smashed the ribs with a large rock most likely puncturing the lungs that explains the prisoner collapsing and being dragged by the hair because they could barely breathe when bent over the alter the now shattered ribs arched apart in different directions depending on how you broke the ribs they took the knife sliced open the chest and polled out the Harte that explains all the blood on the steps in my opinion
the mexica always invited foreign dignitaries - they were always seated behind a screen so they could see the ceremonies but the public couldn't see them.
A lot of times they gave them shrooms - so they'd be tripping and see crazy shit going on
Actually today we kill more inocent by abortion, not just thousands but millions, shamelly. And that s worst that barbarism it is diabolic and coward.
Actually the Europeans at this time killed a higher percentage of their own people than the Aztecs did, and even worse by burning them at the stake, drawing and quartering, and on occasion pouring molten lead in their veins.
@dseindc Yes, Europeans killed men, women, and children left and right in the name of, Christ. And the way they did it? There are no words to describe, countless crucifixions/boxing/impalements.
Sry, the point I wanted to make is...AND NATIVES ARE CALLED THE SAVAGE ONES?
@dseindc You are referring to the inquisition,it was pretty bad every culture has a time when barberism raighned supreme. Look at what happens to people in psych wards.
@dseindc estas mal si la cibilisacion duro casi dos mil anos cuenta cuantos sacrificavan asta ahora grasias a los espanoles somos libres de esos dementes
@dseindc The statement that the Europeans killed a higher percentage of their own people than the Aztecs did is not supported by any evidence. I am not saying life was rosy in Europe or peaceful but the number of people burned at the stake as witches or heretics was very low. The Spanish Inquisition killed maybe 5k people over a 300 year period. The Aztecs were killing that many a day.
@SupernautG "Between 1530 and 1630, according to Cambridge historian V.A.C. Gatrell, England executed seventy-five thousand people. At the time, its population was about three million, perhaps a tenth that of the Mexica empire. Arithmetic suggests that if England had been the size of the Triple Alliance [Aztec Empire], it would have executed, on average, about 7,500 people per year, roughly twice the number Cortez estimated for the empire. France and Spain were still more bloodthirsty.
@dseindc That theory by Gatrell is not commonly accepted because it is seen as trying to ease reduce the 'guilt' of inferiority of the American natives vs the superior Europeans (supposedly). I actually don't have an ethnic axe to grind. Just facts. According to Michael Harner's thesis the Aztec human sacrifice religion masked the need to cannibalize humans to make up for the weak protein diet.
@SupernautG While I am aware that the recently converted (if I may use that word liberally) Azteca said they perferred pork to other meats that the Spaniards brought and which is often ascribed to Spanish slander, for their pozole because it tasted most like human flesh I question that the diet of the Triple alliance was weak in protein. They farmed fish in the canals, raised turkeys, had plentiful iguanas, and the occasional deer though not sure how much of that was available to the population
@dseindc Per Harner's thesis commoners were actually not able to consume turkeys and game because of shortages or status - I forget which. I will link you to his article.
@Supernaut I can understand that those meats were reserved for the nobility, however, fish from the canals and the ubiquitous iguanas probably would have augmented their diet, and I forgot to add dog meat.
@dseindc According to Michael Harner's thesis; "Gruesome as these practices may seem, an ecological perspective and population pressure theory render the Aztec emphasis on human sacrifice acceptable as a natural and rational response to the material conditions of their existence...A materialist ecological approach reveals the Aztecs to be neither irrational nor mentally ill, but merely human beings who, faced with unusual survival problems, responded with unusual behavior."
@Supernaut Thank you for an intellectual reply, it gives me a counterpoint to consider. I suppose that we will never know the answers to some of history's mysteries. My hope is that one day people will be able to judge that unfortunately totally devastated culture more objectively and not have to suffer with ignorance as exemplified by the next two comments. Thank you for your feed back.
this is spanish propaganda, its so ridiculous and its so logical, that the whites would come up with such stories to discredit their victims, the aztecs,
Its in the Aztecs own records,not just the white mans records,people just want to think. Every thing was good in the America's before the white man came,not always the case. Human nature always has a dark side,no matter who you are,because power corrupts.
@crypter27 You are delusional! The Aztecs believed that HOw you died determined where you went after you died... so alot of the sacrifices were voluntary. This sacrifice activity was understood and accepted by everyone in the empire and nobody felt, degraded, humiliated or oppressed. This was the most dignified way to die. You must remember this was at the time when THE AMERICAS WERE NOT PART OF THE WESTERN JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLD! Native americans in the USA and Canada had it the worst deth
@crypter27 pretty on point except in the white man making things better fact of the matter they came looking for treasure and subsequently recieved a bunch of good catholics
The Spanish Inquisition was ordered by the pope that why they burned the people alive and if confessed they strangled before burning , but they didnt pull their hearts out like this disgusting game and throw them down a damn temple. And some people didnt even believe that the spanish inquisition was in the name of god. It was in the name of winning land from the moors.
There was nothing wrong with human sacrifice. It was a religious practice to repay the gods for sacrificing themselves so people could survive. I believe in the Aztec religion, and if a willing person came to me and wanted to be sacrificed(and if there would be no legal consequenses) I would do it. It is what the gods want, and they honor those who are sacrificed by giving them a good and happy afterlife. Call me insane if you want, but that is what I believe.
your so typical...how the hell do you speak English? Your probably a typical Mex-American whos been brainwashed by 60s radicals (Mecha) to worship non-white people on the racist basis that they are not white..do you even speak Nahuatl? hahaha you didnt say you would be willing to be sacrificed. Human sacrifice is a crime. The Aztecs were criminals, and God got rid of them!
keep your judgements to yourself. we can say that now. but back then as a civ on their own, their had their own beliefs, as you do now in the comfort of your so-called democratic environment. u're despising them nonetheless. that isnt a very acumenical way of thought. Stop assuming God is always smiling in approval at you.
For years i have questioned this exagerated theory that i believe was created to justify their quest for greed. How can this be. 1..If Medical examiners take a couple of minutes to cut through bone and remove (not examine) organs with the use of state of the art tools( rib or pruning-sheers/hammers/scalpel/toothed forceps...how can the aztec/mexica and maya remove a heart in 2 minutes. more the less with the use of obsidian knives.imagine 20,000 heart extractions in 4 days. with a rock..(cont)
But the victims didnt volenteer , they just showed before that they captured enemies and tore their hearts out , why would they want their enemy to be blessed , and if they dont then this would be considered torture in their religion. Why do you assume that your Gods want HUMAN hearts and not cow heart or goat hearts of if thats not found in the area fish hearts? Its idiotic how they see a picture of a eagle and snake on a cactus with red stuff at each end and think its from the gods. Shit.
idk...but i am sure back in the day people where stronger...this doctor looks pretty week...possabliy befor they started to cut they broke the sternum...these people where experts at what they did...they where not trying to figure out how to get to hart out
zuniga6913 5 days ago
looks like just killing a chicken...sucks>>>
arraceline 1 week ago
Aren't there a few skeletons left over that could be looked at for knife marks? That doctors making a mess.
IExposeMormonism 1 week ago
It may be an exaggeration but you've got to realize that these were strong warrior priests that had performed thousands of these. Not some weak British surgeon trying it out for the first time on a replica.
angelfish43 4 weeks ago
2 minutes every sacrificial performance is exaggerated...i dont think so..
michelbrandy 1 month ago
my favorite part at 6:39
layrauhl 1 month ago
what the? why after war?
layrauhl 1 month ago
El tipo que habla de sacrificios no sabe que no existe prueba arqueológica. Muchos imbéciles arqueólogos sacan historias descabelladas como éstas para ganar reputación. La única reputación que ganan es la de Imbéciles. De aquí a mil años que descubran los cuerpos decapitados por la mafia, también van a decir que hacíamos sacrificios humanos. Ese es el estúpido criterio de los arqueólogos.
ACERTIXO2002 2 months ago
@ACERTIXO2002 el codice magliabecchiano los muestra con imagen y escritura e incluso hay algunos mas grotescos donde se le sacaba la piel al sacrificado y el sacerdote se la ponia en cima como si se vistiera con ella y hay algunas estatuillas que lo confirman
Pd: lo que pasa es que aun satanizas los sacrificios rituales y por eso los niegas, ademas tal vez si haya evidencia arqueologica solo que los defeños nos hicieron el favor de sepultarla en bajo su ciudad
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
Oí nomas! Dudo que hayas leído la historia de mi país y siquiera conozcas su cultura. @tableoynadamas Demuestras tu ignorancia y la exhibes públicamente. La idea de los sacrificios humanos la inventaron los invasores genocidas para justificar sus crímenes, no has leído quién fué el primer imbécil en contar semejante estupidez. Porque lo que describe no coincide con la realidad. Tu les crees a esos imbéciles asesinos, quienes impusieron una religión a base de sangre y fuego.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
@ACERTIXO2002 no no no, ellos los exageraron pro si creo que fue una estupidez dejar las religiones mesoamericanas y dejar de hablar el nahuatl
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
Seguro también crees en la Guadalupana, otra mentira inventada. @tableoynadamas Quienes sepultaron la ciudad fueron esos malditos invasores, ni eso sabes. Los códices fueron manoseados por religiosos estúpidos y fanáticos. Cómo esperas que le crea a un pueblo imbécil que aceptó esa religión impuesta por tortura con unos códices prostituidos. Ni siquiera has tenido la molestia de estudiar la cultura prehispánica. Lo que eran moralmente, no compagina con los sacrificios.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
@ACERTIXO2002 jajaja, creo mas en Hutzilopochtli y ademas dime ¿donde leiste todo eso? ¿en que libro? lo quiero leer, solo que tengo una duda ¿son teorias o realidades? pero tambien falta decir que el territorio Azteca era el mas grande de México y no creo que todos lo sacrificios fueran necesariamente en Tenochtitlan o que siquiera hacia falta un templo para hacerlos
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
¿Ud. es como aquél imbécil que me comento en un foro que el creía en los sacrificios humanos porque los leyó en 20 libros en inglés? @tableoynadamas Son hechos basados en la realidad. ¿No ha leído que hicieron cuando llegaron los invasores? ¿Acaso sacrificaron a un individuo cuando Cortés hizo la matanza en la Noche triste o murieron cientos por la peste que traían? Ve que fácil es mandar al retrete esa estupidez de los sacrificios humanos. Le falta leer la historia y razonarla.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Tu criterio se basa en códices @tableoynadamas entonces según tú, ¿las imágenes de dioses como Itzpapalótl,Tepeyollotl, son imágenes verídicas? Ves que fácil es exponer la estupidez de tanto imbécil arqueólogo, por ello los llamo imbéciles públicamente. Por que son unos estúpidos. Lea sociología, historia, psicología, la moral es la misma en todo el mundo, ud quiere darnos una idea romántica de los sacrificios, como si la gente no tuviera respeto por la vida. Algo absurdo.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
@ACERTIXO2002 bueno las imagenes son interpretaciones e incluso puede que con el peyote vieran a los dioses mientras deliraban y estas equivocado respetaban la vida y por eso hacian los sacrificios para que la ida continuara ademas emborrachaban a los prisioneros con mezcal antes de cada sarificio
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
Copie y pegue quién le dijo que consumían peyote @tableoynadamas Ud. está atestado de falsedades. El Pulque era la bebida de los dioses y de los reyes. ¿Dónde están los cadáveres? Si de aquí a mil años descubren los 50 mil decapitados, mutilados por la mafia y muertos en accidentes y asesinatos, también van a decir que sacrificábamos gente. Usted no va estar aquí para desmentirlo. Ese es su criterio. Burdo y falto de razón de hechos históricos.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
@ACERTIXO2002 y a ti ¿quien te dijo que no consuian peyote? ¿quien te dijo que no hacian sacrificios? quiero leer esos interesantes textos y foros donde se mencionan y si todo lo que nos han dicho de los aztecas es falso ¿por que no pensar que los aztecas son falsos? y los que consumian peyote solo eran los sacerdotes
Pd: se dice que algunos de los sacrificados eran cunsumidos eso SE DICE, pero tambien pienso que como cualquier civilizacion deberian tener fosas cumunes
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
Muchacho yo nací ahí @tableoynadamas en el valle de Anáhuac y recorrí todos los museos y bibliotecas. No hay prueba alguna de sacrificios, ¿si sabes quién documentó los supuestos sacrificios?¿Ya leíste como era la vida antes de la llegada de los invasores? Sigo esperando que presentes las pruebas de los sacrificio y de que autentifiques el relato que se hizo al respecto.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Te agradezco el documento que me enviaste @tableoynadamas Como tu mismo puedes leer, está cargado de imprecisiones y mentiras.Por un lado dicen que las viudas eran consoladas y por otro lado dicen que a las viudas y los esclavos los sacrificaban por docenas. ¿porque una viuda iría a llorar a su muertito si sabía que la iban a sacrificar? pensando en lo que los espurios relatos dicen la verdad. En todo caso estaría contenta sabiendo que iba a acompañar a su difunto junto con sus esclavos ¿que no?
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Porque un fraile, a según, lleno de temor piadoso, @tableoynadamas tenía envidia de otros cronistas y porque quería quedar bien con su Rey? en todo caso tendría que quedar bien con Dios y no con los hombres. Será que era uno mas de esa mafia que usaron la religión como una máquina de dominación, explotando, asesinando y robando lo que no les pertenecía? Su actitud hipócrita no se puede considerar su relato con veracidad. A según ellos hacían sacrificios con muñecos de madera y no de hombres.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Tu escrito también menciona que los esclavos nativos los emborrachaban antes de sacrificarlos,pero el cronista no explica como los asesinaban. @tableoynadamas Para que emborrachar a un esclavo para asesinarlo? un esclavo no tiene ni voz ni voto. También dice que los asesinaban colgándolos.No hay registro de esas forma de muerte en la cultura prehispánica.era la manera como asesinaban esos asquerosos genocidas.Cuando lees los relatos es la crónica de lo que hicieron esas bestias en éstas tierras.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Sus relatos son las crónicas del genocidios que hicieron en éstas tierras @tableoynadamas Los recibieron con Decencia y regalos y por pago les dieron muerte y violencia. Mucha gente que sobrevivió a éstas bestias malditas, preferían suicidarse antes que verse sometidas a las crueles torturas y humillaciones de ésta gente podrida europea.Quizás algunos juraron morirse junto con sus señores, por ahí está la Leyenda del Indio Triste. Esos relatos están cargados de fe religiosa y no son objetivos
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Deja de propagar esas estúpidas mentiras de esa gente @tableoynadamas Quienes preservaron los relatos fueron los hijos de esos genocidas y la pútrida iglesia que siempre vio un gran negocio el someter a tantos pueblos para sangrarlos económicamente para beneficio de los europeos. Tal es el caso que siguen robando hasta el día de hoy de todas éstas tierras para llevarse millones de dólares a el Vaticano, ellos son cómplices de ese genocidio y saqueo. No hagas eco a genocidas.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
Usted no razona, si hubiese habido sacrificios humanos tendría que haber hileras de cadáveres por todos lados @tableoynadamas No sabe quiénes le quemaron los pies a Cuauhtemoc estando vivo?Quienes hacían concursos para cortar de un tajo la cabeza de un nativo? que va a saber ud. su comentario muestra ignorancia, y como a personas como usted le cambia todavía espejitos por oro. Ud peca de ingenuo, Crédulo.
ACERTIXO2002 1 month ago
..yeah europeans did screw up so many things but common!, sacrificing human beings while they're still alive and in the name of god??- that's pretty fucking stupid as well.
....just saying
TheOrchid23 2 months ago
im in that strange part of youtube...
MelissaLecter 3 months ago
jajajaja solo ke seas un SUPER HOMBRE puedes sacar el corazon por debajo de las COSTILLAS con un solo CUCHILLO DE OXIDIANA es IMPOSIBLE aki solo kieren mantener la vercion oficila.......si realmente kieres saver ke dificil es, preguntale a un doctor ke practica autopcias como yo pregunte Y CUANDO YEGES AL CORAZON SE OCUPAN VARIOS VISTURIS CON PUNTA DE CARBONO Y DIAMANTE o pinzas cortadoras KE NO TE ENGAÑEN
elmundodelalucha 4 months ago 2
@elmundodelalucha se lo querian arrancar no sacarlo con cuidado
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
9:55 This is hilarious. We're all up in the gore.
campbpar 4 months ago
Hey they were just practicing Open Heart Surgery on their enemies , Ha ha ha ha Eventualy they Got right Hundreds of years later ! , That's why the First Heart Transplant was Succesfully Performed in Mexico !! Ha ha ha ha ha
nicktesla45 4 months ago
I don't think there is any way the Aztecs could cut out a human beating heart in just two minutes, I would like to see them try and cut out my living, beating heart from my body in just two minutes!
ThePumpingheart 4 months ago
THE USED OBSIDAN ITS SOO EASY THEY USED IT FOR ARROWS FRO EVERYTHING
NOT STONE
ssgcampos12 6 months ago
Thats bullshit. The Aztecs didn't cut out hearts like seen here. It was one fell swoop (Like in Apocalypto) and then one tear out from the chest.
wrathofvengance67 7 months ago
wut a bullshit.. 20K people.. how large was their population at 500 years time ago ???? 20K warriors ?? that mus mean, there been about the same number of woman. then also those people that would still be needed to protect their state, govern it, like business men, farmers, pristst, officals.... i think mel gibsons movie"apocalypto" puts a more "real" view
knallbirne3000 7 months ago
@knallbirne3000 yes, 20,000 people sacrificed. Don't forget, enemy captives we're talking. Not home residents.
wrathofvengance67 7 months ago
In Europe, burned alive, dismembered, cut off their head, impaled, countless events ...
Worse than animal. All in name of god. Amen.
tepan4d 7 months ago
@tepan4d
Don't blame Christianity, it never says in the Bible to do that, the people who did were incredibly screwed up and obviously not true believers in God. What they did 'in the name of God' was completely sick and wrong, but that doesn't mean all real Christians are like that.
myheartakes88 7 months ago
Buzzhack, Wherever the oil is, they take it. You see whos giving the speech? Given his history version, backed in Spanish books ..
Hahaha. Jajaja
tepan4d 7 months ago
Yes , white people. ... What you can expect.
The worse is, still happening. Barbarians!!!.
Today is the black gold (oil).
White people again. The mother earth mistake.
tepan4d 7 months ago
Such savages, glad the Spanish put an end to this horrific ritual. =)
conantheking 8 months ago
This white people are insulting my ancestors with lies, so go and fuck yourselves.
zkjoker666 8 months ago
@zkjoker666 I'd hardly call them people.
buzzhawk 7 months ago
The Spanish conquistadors and the Aztecs were 2 vastly different cultures who each had different beliefs and who didnt understand or accept each other
ToonandBBfan 8 months ago
Wow I now have a sudden erge to rip out a heart and offer to the sun...now to find a willing sacrifice...
Kobalos 9 months ago
i find this video hard to masturbate to.
nucktard 9 months ago
Quieres mas?
Conoce mi cultura y aprende nahuatl para que te epieces a educar.
Empiesa por los numerod.. Como yo.
Tlasocamati
tepan4d 10 months ago
12. Chronometry perfect (35 seconds of failure (24 hours in Europe)
13. City aligned with the Stars and cardinal points.
14. A perfect communism, democratic socialism and without money, to avoid the enrichment itself.
15. Contributions were maize, beans, meat, spices, ornaments, to name a few, which were distributed among the elderly, children, and others.
16. Community Help keep your city clean and tidy, (after all they built it).
17
tepan4d 10 months ago
@tepan4d In short, primitive.
buzzhawk 7 months ago
8. The cannibals never existed because there were enough animals, crops abundant, clean water, superior engineering and physics,
9. City water level proof earthquakes and floods,
10. Solarium 24 tons, carved in cobalt, with superior writing and codices and a system binary (now called icons found in many programs, read by computers with a binary system)
11. Cobalt stone extracted from the volcanoes, hauled from 65 kilometers (40 miles) without using the wheel.
12. Chronometry perfect (35 seconds
tepan4d 10 months ago
4. Sacrifices, in israel. Virgin, in Arabia. Thieves, murderers, dismembered, of Spain, London and France (army and church).
5 drawings of sacrifices (badly drawn) on European paper, after the genocide.
6 interpretations of the codices by Spanish. (Without knowing the linguist).
7 Confucion between gods for europeans, and respect for nature (thought mexhica)
8.
tepan4d 10 months ago
Theses historians are not nahuatlacas, they don't speak Nahuatl. This is not aztec history, this video is a spain version in spanish language.. Use the logic:
1 god in nahuatl, not exist. All dual
2 once the vein is broke, the heart stop. never jump after that.
3 heart remove to assure the next day sun. (Official). Calendar is a cycle never end.
4
tepan4d 10 months ago
Say what you want abot the Spanish, these guys sacrifced humans, end of story. Use some common sense and stop bashing the "Westerners" already
Fakeslimshady 10 months ago
These dramatizations give little credence to truth
typical tv
PantsInTheFamily 10 months ago
as soon as I saw how the man was laying on the sacrifice altar it looked like that it was designed to make it easy to cut from the lower part of the torso and reach in for the heart.
FernandoTorrera 11 months ago
Where are the 20k bodies?
tepan4d 11 months ago
@tepan4d below the templo mayor or higher temple but they killed just because the tlatoani wanted to please quetzalcoatl
xR41ZENx 10 months ago
sacrifices no diff than roman putting slaves in the gladiator ring to be slaughtered.
chr8st8na 11 months ago
Two methods, what a joke. Any warrior with practical experience that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
grognaurd 11 months ago
@grognaurd idiot that apocalyto mel gibson shit
xR41ZENx 10 months ago
the euopeans were 3000 years ahead in technology which they brougt to the americas if not the mexicans would still be living in the stone age
TheRisingforce2000 11 months ago
im not a racist but honestly the world was just fine until Europeans left their shores....
xdwere1 1 year ago 11
@xdwere1 well you may not be a racist but if that's what you truly believe then you're something even stupider. You're watching a video about people being murdered with their hearts still beating to pagan gods and you're calling that "fine".
Speegs23 11 months ago
@xdwere1 I wish you were forced to go in time and back to the jungle and live under Aztec rule with no modern amenities. You would be begging to come back home.
menacingshadows 4 months ago
@xdwere1 your country is the only european of America and the english conquest was the most bloody ¬¬
tableoynadamas 1 month ago
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@xdwere1 -"m not a racist but honestly the world was just fine until Europeans left their shores"
Riiiiiight
Skybaby79 3 weeks ago
@xdwere1 Europeans never left buddy. Trust me
InfiniteAdrian 3 weeks ago
That's nastey
Mistafixa101 1 year ago
On Discovery Civilisation, Discovery Channel's special Aztec Temple of Blood and Spike's Deadliest Warrior episode 13 (Aztec Jaguar warrior vs Zande warrior) some experts and medics simulated Mesoamerican sacrifices with ballistic gel torsos.
2face15 1 year ago
booohooo all the butt hurt indians whining about getting whooped by few conquistadors .
sewagedweller 1 year ago
mexican pride
REDKILLA13M 1 year ago
Yes, most civilizations had brutality. But in most cases, where Christianity spread peace eventually came. I would need to see evidence of some of the comments posted otherwise. All in all, Christianity brought peace (granted, with some exceptions).
BCPowerman 1 year ago
estos historiadores se destacan en hacer creer a todos los del mundo que solo ellos tienen la razon, solo porque son gringos, que no se acuerdan cuando ustedes llegaron a las americas con bandera de corderitos( o peregrinos que lo unico que pensaban era apoderarce de todo el territorio de los indios) y como tales dieron una punalada alos indios en cuanto se descuidaron. ATTE el corderito.
marina0146 1 year ago
no niego que es parte de la historia de mi pais acazo ustedes no recuerdan la punalada que le dieron a los indios norteamericanos despues de sentirse seguros en un territorio que nunca les ha pertenecido porque en este pais todos somos inmigrantes,y lo ultimo que les digo es que el ser humano equiboco el nombre porque pasaran miles de anos pra que meresca ser eso un ser humano.
marina0146 1 year ago
sick ! The "god" they were worshipping was no god of mine !
What an aura of terror and pain must have infected the atmosphere of that society.
Zeuszgrl 1 year ago
A great many ancient civilizations slaughtered mass amounts of people in very short time-frames whether it be in tribal wars, sacrifices or otherwise. This phenomenon happened in practically all parts of the globe. It is also one of the main reasons the Mosiac Law was given to Moses.
Afrocanuk 1 year ago
huitzilopoxtli wasnt a god, omg this makes me so mad they call him god of war based on what???? do you even know the meaning of the word/name huitzilopoxtli????? come on people!!!
comomango 1 year ago
@elmundodelalucha Totalmente de acuerdo. Todo eso acerca de los sacrificios (es una gran mentira) sólo fué una excusa, para asesinar a los aztecas y saquear su reino.
rod88 1 year ago
there smart
foreveryouforeverme 1 year ago
Funny vid! Of course Aztecs went thru the diaphragm to get to the heart, because some victims lived long enough to see their own heart lifted by the priest into the sky. ... How many sacrificial victims did Western civilizations offer to their gods in their wars for oil and profit in the last 100 years? (Like people today who protest wars, the common Aztec didn't appreciate all the blood, gore and smell (!) and there was a mass exodus from the city. The vid didn't accent that part.)
tapolna 1 year ago
Wrong! The first time was the proper way, is just that the priests knew how to do it, they wouldn't cut the breastbone, they would actually strike it and break through it the first impact, but again, they were trained for the sacrificial ritual unlike this modern surgeons. :/
orgullomexicano24 1 year ago
... Looks like Lemurian monsters sailed to South-America & real people navigated to North-Africa after the great Atlantic flood ... Mummification vs sacrificial rituals, what would the gods prefer more ...
eazy2462 1 year ago
let's build pyramids, temples & write hïeroglyphs for future people to understand ancient times, and let's study the stars to honour the gods. Let's mummify the dead, not massacre alive humans ... Looks like Egypt could teach any other Post - Lemurian civilization in any matter ... Looks like Atlantis's monsters went to America & the real humans to Africa after the great flood ...
eazy2462 1 year ago
well if there intent was to cause as much pain as possible the smashed the ribs with a large rock most likely puncturing the lungs that explains the prisoner collapsing and being dragged by the hair because they could barely breathe when bent over the alter the now shattered ribs arched apart in different directions depending on how you broke the ribs they took the knife sliced open the chest and polled out the Harte that explains all the blood on the steps in my opinion
HewieOfHG 2 years ago
i wonder what did they do with the hearts?O__O
i mean i know they put it in that little plate but what did they do after?
laurysocheerful 2 years ago
the mexica always invited foreign dignitaries - they were always seated behind a screen so they could see the ceremonies but the public couldn't see them.
A lot of times they gave them shrooms - so they'd be tripping and see crazy shit going on
ajawofcopan 2 years ago
im learning diz at skool...i seen diz 1 already. i thinkthat aztecs are interesting,, but they were too religious.....
frst04 2 years ago
You should worry more about your grammar, not good practice to write like your sending a text message all the time.
chromedagger 2 years ago
I believe the word you were looking for was "you're". Why are you correcting others, again?
riskyshotz 2 years ago
Stay in "skool", idiot.
riskyshotz 2 years ago
Does this Barry guy remind everyone of George Costanza's father on Seinfeld?
DaveFLBrn 2 years ago
Actually today we kill more inocent by abortion, not just thousands but millions, shamelly. And that s worst that barbarism it is diabolic and coward.
williamalexgarcia 2 years ago
Actually the Europeans at this time killed a higher percentage of their own people than the Aztecs did, and even worse by burning them at the stake, drawing and quartering, and on occasion pouring molten lead in their veins.
dseindc 2 years ago 25
@dseindc Yes, Europeans killed men, women, and children left and right in the name of, Christ. And the way they did it? There are no words to describe, countless crucifixions/boxing/impalements.
Sry, the point I wanted to make is...AND NATIVES ARE CALLED THE SAVAGE ONES?
stephen2152002 1 year ago 6
@stephen2152002 no, natives killed 20.000 natives on two days , video explains . They weren`t savages , killed them all in the name of God.
Who kill natives MAPUCHES in Argentina at XIX century ?
Who kill Tehuelches , Onas , Kawesqar or Yaganes at Strait of Magellan ? ¿ europeans ?
sebasforvey 4 months ago
@dseindc
Source?
nachopulp 1 year ago
@nachopulp "1491" page 134 by Charles C. Mann, see quote below.
dseindc 6 months ago
@dseindc You are referring to the inquisition,it was pretty bad every culture has a time when barberism raighned supreme. Look at what happens to people in psych wards.
crypter27 1 year ago
@dseindc estas mal si la cibilisacion duro casi dos mil anos cuenta cuantos sacrificavan asta ahora grasias a los espanoles somos libres de esos dementes
elgallobani1 1 year ago
@dseindc not true caunt since the civilisation begen till columbus thas exagerating orripilant
elgallobani1 1 year ago
@dseindc The statement that the Europeans killed a higher percentage of their own people than the Aztecs did is not supported by any evidence. I am not saying life was rosy in Europe or peaceful but the number of people burned at the stake as witches or heretics was very low. The Spanish Inquisition killed maybe 5k people over a 300 year period. The Aztecs were killing that many a day.
SupernautG 6 months ago
@SupernautG "Between 1530 and 1630, according to Cambridge historian V.A.C. Gatrell, England executed seventy-five thousand people. At the time, its population was about three million, perhaps a tenth that of the Mexica empire. Arithmetic suggests that if England had been the size of the Triple Alliance [Aztec Empire], it would have executed, on average, about 7,500 people per year, roughly twice the number Cortez estimated for the empire. France and Spain were still more bloodthirsty.
dseindc 6 months ago
@dseindc That theory by Gatrell is not commonly accepted because it is seen as trying to ease reduce the 'guilt' of inferiority of the American natives vs the superior Europeans (supposedly). I actually don't have an ethnic axe to grind. Just facts. According to Michael Harner's thesis the Aztec human sacrifice religion masked the need to cannibalize humans to make up for the weak protein diet.
SupernautG 6 months ago
@SupernautG While I am aware that the recently converted (if I may use that word liberally) Azteca said they perferred pork to other meats that the Spaniards brought and which is often ascribed to Spanish slander, for their pozole because it tasted most like human flesh I question that the diet of the Triple alliance was weak in protein. They farmed fish in the canals, raised turkeys, had plentiful iguanas, and the occasional deer though not sure how much of that was available to the population
dseindc 6 months ago
@dseindc Per Harner's thesis commoners were actually not able to consume turkeys and game because of shortages or status - I forget which. I will link you to his article.
SupernautG 6 months ago
@Supernaut I can understand that those meats were reserved for the nobility, however, fish from the canals and the ubiquitous iguanas probably would have augmented their diet, and I forgot to add dog meat.
dseindc 6 months ago
@dseindc If you have a regimented society - what you think is easy to get at on your own may not be. That could be at play here.
SupernautG 6 months ago
@dseindc According to Michael Harner's thesis; "Gruesome as these practices may seem, an ecological perspective and population pressure theory render the Aztec emphasis on human sacrifice acceptable as a natural and rational response to the material conditions of their existence...A materialist ecological approach reveals the Aztecs to be neither irrational nor mentally ill, but merely human beings who, faced with unusual survival problems, responded with unusual behavior."
SupernautG 6 months ago
@Supernaut Thank you for an intellectual reply, it gives me a counterpoint to consider. I suppose that we will never know the answers to some of history's mysteries. My hope is that one day people will be able to judge that unfortunately totally devastated culture more objectively and not have to suffer with ignorance as exemplified by the next two comments. Thank you for your feed back.
dseindc 6 months ago
It's purpose was to honor the gods, dumb fuck. Go spout your bullshit elsewhere.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
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that was no cullture, it was simply barbarism,
lunafringe10 2 years ago
What the Spanish did was barbarism. This was religious devotion on an unimaginable scale.
TheLastMexicatl 2 years ago
I see barbarism on both sides actually. Did those 20,000 people need to die? Nope!
DaveFLBrn 2 years ago
this is spanish propaganda, its so ridiculous and its so logical, that the whites would come up with such stories to discredit their victims, the aztecs,
lunafringe10 2 years ago
Its in the Aztecs own records,not just the white mans records,people just want to think. Every thing was good in the America's before the white man came,not always the case. Human nature always has a dark side,no matter who you are,because power corrupts.
crypter27 2 years ago 16
@crypter27 You are delusional! The Aztecs believed that HOw you died determined where you went after you died... so alot of the sacrifices were voluntary. This sacrifice activity was understood and accepted by everyone in the empire and nobody felt, degraded, humiliated or oppressed. This was the most dignified way to die. You must remember this was at the time when THE AMERICAS WERE NOT PART OF THE WESTERN JUDEO-CHRISTIAN WORLD! Native americans in the USA and Canada had it the worst deth
hornybodhisattva 1 year ago
@crypter27 pretty on point except in the white man making things better fact of the matter they came looking for treasure and subsequently recieved a bunch of good catholics
LifeReel 8 months ago
The Spanish Inquisition was ordered by the pope that why they burned the people alive and if confessed they strangled before burning , but they didnt pull their hearts out like this disgusting game and throw them down a damn temple. And some people didnt even believe that the spanish inquisition was in the name of god. It was in the name of winning land from the moors.
nazbites 3 years ago
There was nothing wrong with human sacrifice. It was a religious practice to repay the gods for sacrificing themselves so people could survive. I believe in the Aztec religion, and if a willing person came to me and wanted to be sacrificed(and if there would be no legal consequenses) I would do it. It is what the gods want, and they honor those who are sacrificed by giving them a good and happy afterlife. Call me insane if you want, but that is what I believe.
TheLastMexicatl 3 years ago
your so typical...how the hell do you speak English? Your probably a typical Mex-American whos been brainwashed by 60s radicals (Mecha) to worship non-white people on the racist basis that they are not white..do you even speak Nahuatl? hahaha you didnt say you would be willing to be sacrificed. Human sacrifice is a crime. The Aztecs were criminals, and God got rid of them!
patorcas2000 3 years ago
keep your judgements to yourself. we can say that now. but back then as a civ on their own, their had their own beliefs, as you do now in the comfort of your so-called democratic environment. u're despising them nonetheless. that isnt a very acumenical way of thought. Stop assuming God is always smiling in approval at you.
TheArthen 3 years ago
LastMexica speaks better English than you do...
ReverandsDaughter 2 years ago
how do u speak english with the mouth stupi ano breath
Tony420k 2 years ago
Nothing wrong with human sacrifice? Ok, you go first.
bullsharkreef 3 years ago 4
For years i have questioned this exagerated theory that i believe was created to justify their quest for greed. How can this be. 1..If Medical examiners take a couple of minutes to cut through bone and remove (not examine) organs with the use of state of the art tools( rib or pruning-sheers/hammers/scalpel/toothed forceps...how can the aztec/mexica and maya remove a heart in 2 minutes. more the less with the use of obsidian knives.imagine 20,000 heart extractions in 4 days. with a rock..(cont)
AndThenRealityStruck 3 years ago 4
But the victims didnt volenteer , they just showed before that they captured enemies and tore their hearts out , why would they want their enemy to be blessed , and if they dont then this would be considered torture in their religion. Why do you assume that your Gods want HUMAN hearts and not cow heart or goat hearts of if thats not found in the area fish hearts? Its idiotic how they see a picture of a eagle and snake on a cactus with red stuff at each end and think its from the gods. Shit.
nazbites 3 years ago
You're insane. Some cultures are better than others. There are several cultures superior to the kind that pin people down and do this to them.
Gnickk 2 years ago
Anywhere in history where a society has little access to protien , cannibalism is practiced by the top level of society.
88Thyra 3 years ago
Getting drunk on blood not wine pointing dagger down out of fire smoke and brimstone the dreaded One will rise!
omniexistus 3 years ago