nice modifications im thinking of building one and maybe selling them. the price to purchase these type units from SS or DR seems to be way out of line with the cost of building one.
I would think they could sell them for 1500-1800 and still make a fair profit.
not sure if there is a market for them...any thoughts?
I have the facilities/capital to do it but dont know if there is a market.
Very good job, I am interested in what is the exact dimensions of the toothed rack and what is the diameter of the pinion shaft that connects the two flywheels. It would really help me . Maybe I do something similar. Thanks
You said that you and your dad modified it.... what all did you do to it?
I can see that is is good for logs that you can lift.... however for those 30"+ oak logs, I like a tilt up splitter, so I don't have to lift the log. However, after quartering a 33" oak log, I can see putting the quarters on that supersplit. So, do you have/use a hydraulic splitter, for the really big logs?
Extra flywheel, low motor mount, new actuator leaver, ram runs on cam followers in the I-beam, double cam follower on actuator. I have a 30ton hydraulic splitter but can't remember the last time I used it. I send just about everything thru the supersplit, I just lift it, quarter it with a saw, get a hand lifting the log or put the log on the splitter with my excavator.@NateTheSurveyor
I don't understand the force that can be generated with this technique....I have a 25 ton that always splits even knotty white oak, but it slows.
If you could generate enough force to split that, AND put a 4-way head on, it would be a great machine. WTF is the splitting wedge so small? If you are spitting straight pine or poplar, it's fine. That and the pushing block need to be bigger.
Yes the mechanical advantage of a rack and pinion combined with stored energy can be a bit tough to grasp. Its a very efficient package that splits more like an axe. Its a great machine already, many people have put over 10,000 cord through these splitters, this one has over 1000 cord through it in all kinds of wood. I can put a cord an hour thru this machine all day long. will your 25 ton with 4 way do that? Give the small push block and wedge some thought, its that way 4 a reason.
@cucvs I see small blocks let tough wood ride up the blade and not split.I never see "wet" oak going through these.I can whack at 6month old pine and split as fast as that machine.There is no economy of motion. The operator is moving very fast (more likely to have an accident) to get output. Yes, I can easily split wet oak, 4-ways and get a cord an hour. I don't want to work that hard....that is why we reason and make machines! Until I see "real" wood split, the "super splitter" is suspect.
Do you have a video up of your splitter, I'd love to check it out. Surprise! Most of the wood in the video was wet Oak! The other day two guys and a TW-2 with 4 way wedge and log lift spent all day making 4 cord out of 36"+ rounds of maple beside a friend and I taking down a 36"+ pine (top down). The tree was down by 2pm, my friend bucked up the pine while I split 4 cord by just after 5pm. And a 4 way wedge is in the works for my splitter.
@cucvs no vid. it's old (maybe 25 years?). Nothing special. It was free, and that's hard to beat. I got a slip-on 4-way wedge and it works well. I've got a couple big pines. Someone said they used those big ones for ship masts. I hope you make a vid when you slap a 4-way on it, I'd like to see it. I can't remember the brand, but I saw a splitter the other day that split both directions. Not the crappy little one at northern tool. It was big. Wish someone I knew had one like yours to see.
@cucvs To make a hydraulic splitter a lot more efficient, it would be great to have a return and split adjustable limiter. When splitting poplar (I burn a lot of it...prevalent and free), it splits 95% of the time within 3" of contact. I cut most stuff at 18". If you could set the machine to draw back 19", move forward 4 and auto return to 19", it would be WAY faster. I'll work on it. have a good night.
@kenfo0 I have a super splitter and it is great. Can split green red and white oak all day. Not very good with piss elm though. I have about 5000 cord through it with no maintenance other than the little bearings that the pusher rides on tend to go out periodically from getting dirty splitting in the winter or in the rain. My hydraulic splitter is in the garage gathering dust.
@Metro350 Forgive me for doubting you. I don't mean to cause I'll feeling, but I have had a few people use the "5k cords" figure. Not only is it an 'assload' of wood, but for multiple people to report the same number is suspect. You can never tell anymore. Honest people are left frustrated. What is the warranty or return policy? I'll check the website. It certainly doesn't look like a product a serious wood cutter would use...look at it wobble.
@kenfo0 Your right it is hard to fathom the amount of wood that these can go through. I have two of them and split about 500 cords per year. I have had one for about ten years and the other one only about three so I was probably exaggerating whan I said 5K cords, but not by much. I forgot other than the little bearing needing replacing I also replaced the gear and pusher bar and that was a bit spendy. By the way no offence taken, and I would highly recommend this machine.(not a paid spokesman)
@Metro350 "(not a paid spokesman) ">>>HAHAHAHAHA.....your dad owns the company? J/k. I saw a new design wood splitter on YT. The guy has it 90% right. Splits wood thru multi-splitters in each direction. Now THAT'S fast. Needs to work out getting the output to end up in a single spot.
@kenfo0 Yes my dad does own the company....but he doesnt pay me! Just kidding I actually own a firewood company in Minnesota. I have just purchased a multitek, so chances are the super split will be gathering dust along with my hydraulic splitter. The super split would work well though as a resplitter because no processor I have seen splits every block small enough for me. What was the name of the processor you saw on youtube?
@kenfo0 I have a multitek 2025 xfc the only one of its kind. Multitek only made one of this model. I mainly cut red and white oak and birch. We have ash, iron wood, poplar, hard and soft maple. we also have a lot of species that isnt worth much at least from a firewood standpoint. Box elder, willow, basswood, chinese elm, you get the point.
Great stuff, good work ! What do you think the possibilities are for building a Super Splitter your self ? I'am from Denmark, Europe and you can't buy them here. I would be very gratefull if you can help me with pictures and descriptions of the machine.... I'am willing to pay you for these kind of information.
@24preacherboy I think it would be funny if, when the $1hr angry mexican got off work, he whooped your ass for fun! I'd pay to watch the vid of you screaming like a girl, being slapped around by a 5ft, 110lb mexican who does more in a day than you do in a week. hey! maybe he could supplement his income by pimping you out!
I find the supersplit moves around easy onsite. I have a set of 10' ramps that I used to load it into a trailer or truck to move from site to site. I plan to put a trailer hitch on it at some point but haven't really needed it yet. It is the base model "J" I believe. It originally had a 3.5hp briggs on it. With the motor mounted on top I flipped over the spitter within a few hours of new moving it around the yard and cracked the block on the 3.5hp motor. Hence new motor and location.
That engine placement is perfect! Also like the cam follower on the ram makes sense. Is there a little scraper on the bottom flange of the beam? If you were to put bearings on that axle it might make trailering an option. What model was this machine when you started? Is the 3rd wheel nesissary? Hey SS, you watching this?
The cam followers work well but I have ideas on how to make them even better. Yes there is a scraper in front of the cam followers. The third fly wheel is not necessary but gives it more push-thru power on stringy wood. SS makes a model with larger flywheel which is what I was trying to simulate on a budget. The 3rd flywheel came off an exercise bike from the dump!
Mighty fine job. How much would it split in an hour? And can you do that for an hour? Two? Superman! Any chance the third flywheel puts too much impetus into the rack mechanism, maybe wear faster, or break? ty.
The fastest I have done is a half hour doing 16" wood splitting as small as the pieces in the video. I can consistently do 8 cord in an 8 hour day. I'm sure the extra flywheel reduces the safety factor on the rack an pinion but it has hundreds of cords on it now without an issue.
I agree with your modifications it makes a lot more sense! and the 3rd flywheel seems to have improve the motor performance. nice job! i would buy yours before the original!
Remounted the motor because the unit is top heavy and it improved belt wrap. Added a third flywheel and changed the engagement mechanism. The rack runs on cam followers inside the ibeam.
Yes it splits green or seasoned no problem
cucvs 2 weeks ago
Will it split green wood?
GARYTHELEADMAKER 2 weeks ago
where did u buy this and how much was it also does it work a four way splitter i am from Ireland
gerard1195 3 weeks ago
I can't believe you were able to pick up that giant stump by yourself. It must have weighed a ton. But your splitter went right through it.
Dasdfjkl 4 weeks ago
wow now that is a wicked wood splitter...
drivin69 1 month ago
wow now that is a wicked wood splitter...
drivin69 1 month ago
nice modifications im thinking of building one and maybe selling them. the price to purchase these type units from SS or DR seems to be way out of line with the cost of building one.
I would think they could sell them for 1500-1800 and still make a fair profit.
not sure if there is a market for them...any thoughts?
I have the facilities/capital to do it but dont know if there is a market.
alwaysbuildright 1 month ago
yeah but what would i do with the rest of my weekend:)
mortie806 2 months ago
That is some wood splitter.
ooocrowooo 6 months ago
Have you tried the 4 way yet, and if you could tell me how it worked if you did...Thanks.j
tarftiger 7 months ago
@tarftiger I haven't had time to make a 4-way yet, but will let you know when I do!
cucvs 7 months ago
This thing has some gnarly cycle time. The return cycle is lightning-fast. I like these splitters. I want one. Maybe one day I'll buy one.
localcrew 8 months ago
My Grandpa would have loved to have seen this...
YManCyberDude 10 months ago 2
Freaking Fast! Nice Machine and nice mods!
notoriouslizw 1 year ago
Very good job, I am interested in what is the exact dimensions of the toothed rack and what is the diameter of the pinion shaft that connects the two flywheels. It would really help me . Maybe I do something similar. Thanks
jasminsirotic 1 year ago
You said that you and your dad modified it.... what all did you do to it?
I can see that is is good for logs that you can lift.... however for those 30"+ oak logs, I like a tilt up splitter, so I don't have to lift the log. However, after quartering a 33" oak log, I can see putting the quarters on that supersplit. So, do you have/use a hydraulic splitter, for the really big logs?
Thnks!
Nate
NateTheSurveyor 1 year ago
Extra flywheel, low motor mount, new actuator leaver, ram runs on cam followers in the I-beam, double cam follower on actuator. I have a 30ton hydraulic splitter but can't remember the last time I used it. I send just about everything thru the supersplit, I just lift it, quarter it with a saw, get a hand lifting the log or put the log on the splitter with my excavator.@NateTheSurveyor
cucvs 1 year ago
@cucvs Would you be interested in building one or sending be a bunch of detailed pics of yours?
jksctube 1 year ago
Does your SS seem to eat up the Rubber Stoppers at about 30 cords or so??
SuperSplitter1116 1 month ago
I don't understand the force that can be generated with this technique....I have a 25 ton that always splits even knotty white oak, but it slows.
If you could generate enough force to split that, AND put a 4-way head on, it would be a great machine. WTF is the splitting wedge so small? If you are spitting straight pine or poplar, it's fine. That and the pushing block need to be bigger.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0
Yes the mechanical advantage of a rack and pinion combined with stored energy can be a bit tough to grasp. Its a very efficient package that splits more like an axe. Its a great machine already, many people have put over 10,000 cord through these splitters, this one has over 1000 cord through it in all kinds of wood. I can put a cord an hour thru this machine all day long. will your 25 ton with 4 way do that? Give the small push block and wedge some thought, its that way 4 a reason.
cucvs 1 year ago
@cucvs I see small blocks let tough wood ride up the blade and not split.I never see "wet" oak going through these.I can whack at 6month old pine and split as fast as that machine.There is no economy of motion. The operator is moving very fast (more likely to have an accident) to get output. Yes, I can easily split wet oak, 4-ways and get a cord an hour. I don't want to work that hard....that is why we reason and make machines! Until I see "real" wood split, the "super splitter" is suspect.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0
Do you have a video up of your splitter, I'd love to check it out. Surprise! Most of the wood in the video was wet Oak! The other day two guys and a TW-2 with 4 way wedge and log lift spent all day making 4 cord out of 36"+ rounds of maple beside a friend and I taking down a 36"+ pine (top down). The tree was down by 2pm, my friend bucked up the pine while I split 4 cord by just after 5pm. And a 4 way wedge is in the works for my splitter.
cucvs 1 year ago
@cucvs no vid. it's old (maybe 25 years?). Nothing special. It was free, and that's hard to beat. I got a slip-on 4-way wedge and it works well. I've got a couple big pines. Someone said they used those big ones for ship masts. I hope you make a vid when you slap a 4-way on it, I'd like to see it. I can't remember the brand, but I saw a splitter the other day that split both directions. Not the crappy little one at northern tool. It was big. Wish someone I knew had one like yours to see.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@cucvs To make a hydraulic splitter a lot more efficient, it would be great to have a return and split adjustable limiter. When splitting poplar (I burn a lot of it...prevalent and free), it splits 95% of the time within 3" of contact. I cut most stuff at 18". If you could set the machine to draw back 19", move forward 4 and auto return to 19", it would be WAY faster. I'll work on it. have a good night.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 I have a super splitter and it is great. Can split green red and white oak all day. Not very good with piss elm though. I have about 5000 cord through it with no maintenance other than the little bearings that the pusher rides on tend to go out periodically from getting dirty splitting in the winter or in the rain. My hydraulic splitter is in the garage gathering dust.
Metro350 1 year ago
@Metro350 Forgive me for doubting you. I don't mean to cause I'll feeling, but I have had a few people use the "5k cords" figure. Not only is it an 'assload' of wood, but for multiple people to report the same number is suspect. You can never tell anymore. Honest people are left frustrated. What is the warranty or return policy? I'll check the website. It certainly doesn't look like a product a serious wood cutter would use...look at it wobble.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Your right it is hard to fathom the amount of wood that these can go through. I have two of them and split about 500 cords per year. I have had one for about ten years and the other one only about three so I was probably exaggerating whan I said 5K cords, but not by much. I forgot other than the little bearing needing replacing I also replaced the gear and pusher bar and that was a bit spendy. By the way no offence taken, and I would highly recommend this machine.(not a paid spokesman)
Metro350 1 year ago
@Metro350 "(not a paid spokesman) ">>>HAHAHAHAHA.....your dad owns the company? J/k. I saw a new design wood splitter on YT. The guy has it 90% right. Splits wood thru multi-splitters in each direction. Now THAT'S fast. Needs to work out getting the output to end up in a single spot.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Yes my dad does own the company....but he doesnt pay me! Just kidding I actually own a firewood company in Minnesota. I have just purchased a multitek, so chances are the super split will be gathering dust along with my hydraulic splitter. The super split would work well though as a resplitter because no processor I have seen splits every block small enough for me. What was the name of the processor you saw on youtube?
Metro350 1 year ago
@Metro350 /user/joshlarrabee?email=comment_reply_received
what processor did you get? what is the predominant wood species in your area? i bet there's a big market for firewood up there.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 I have a multitek 2025 xfc the only one of its kind. Multitek only made one of this model. I mainly cut red and white oak and birch. We have ash, iron wood, poplar, hard and soft maple. we also have a lot of species that isnt worth much at least from a firewood standpoint. Box elder, willow, basswood, chinese elm, you get the point.
Metro350 1 year ago
Great stuff, good work ! What do you think the possibilities are for building a Super Splitter your self ? I'am from Denmark, Europe and you can't buy them here. I would be very gratefull if you can help me with pictures and descriptions of the machine.... I'am willing to pay you for these kind of information.
Thank you in advance !
theonethatgotaway007 1 year ago
Cheers I`ll be looking forward to it.
tairuapete 1 year ago
These look great has anyone posted a vid of the supersplitter up against some real knotty, stringy hard to split wood ?
tairuapete 1 year ago
@tairuapete
I took some video of some knotty stuff, I just need to get some editing software to shorten the video.
cucvs 1 year ago
@tairuapete It doesnt like piss elm. No problem with white oak though
Metro350 1 year ago
Pretty neat idea all round. Congrats.
jj1517 1 year ago
Checkout "kick ass log splitter(period)"
TreeClimberJr 1 year ago
Looks like a lot of work
Maybe you could hire a Mexican for 1.00 per hour to do the log lifting and you could sit back and watch.
24preacherboy 1 year ago
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elgriton666 1 year ago
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@24preacherboy
And let the Mexican have all the fun?? No Way...
elgriton666 1 year ago
@24preacherboy I think it would be funny if, when the $1hr angry mexican got off work, he whooped your ass for fun! I'd pay to watch the vid of you screaming like a girl, being slapped around by a 5ft, 110lb mexican who does more in a day than you do in a week. hey! maybe he could supplement his income by pimping you out!
kenfo0 1 year ago
wow this thing is fast, yall be fishing in no time.
dean147100 1 year ago
Cucv
Thanks for the video. I just naught one this week. I am untested in lowering the motor also. Any tips or input from you for doing this? Thanks!
wishiwasdiving 1 year ago
Must make it easier to trailer? Is that the J or HD model? Love the Cam followers great idea, is there a small scraper attched to the front of it?
kah68 1 year ago
I find the supersplit moves around easy onsite. I have a set of 10' ramps that I used to load it into a trailer or truck to move from site to site. I plan to put a trailer hitch on it at some point but haven't really needed it yet. It is the base model "J" I believe. It originally had a 3.5hp briggs on it. With the motor mounted on top I flipped over the spitter within a few hours of new moving it around the yard and cracked the block on the 3.5hp motor. Hence new motor and location.
cucvs 1 year ago
That engine placement is perfect! Also like the cam follower on the ram makes sense. Is there a little scraper on the bottom flange of the beam? If you were to put bearings on that axle it might make trailering an option. What model was this machine when you started? Is the 3rd wheel nesissary? Hey SS, you watching this?
kah68 1 year ago
The cam followers work well but I have ideas on how to make them even better. Yes there is a scraper in front of the cam followers. The third fly wheel is not necessary but gives it more push-thru power on stringy wood. SS makes a model with larger flywheel which is what I was trying to simulate on a budget. The 3rd flywheel came off an exercise bike from the dump!
cucvs 1 year ago
very, very dangerous.
bigbenny1978 2 years ago
is it possible to get some fotos of your modify
WoodJoe100 2 years ago
Mighty fine job. How much would it split in an hour? And can you do that for an hour? Two? Superman! Any chance the third flywheel puts too much impetus into the rack mechanism, maybe wear faster, or break? ty.
heymakerphd 2 years ago
The fastest I have done is a half hour doing 16" wood splitting as small as the pieces in the video. I can consistently do 8 cord in an 8 hour day. I'm sure the extra flywheel reduces the safety factor on the rack an pinion but it has hundreds of cords on it now without an issue.
cucvs 2 years ago
kudos and good luck.
heymakerphd 2 years ago
I agree with your modifications it makes a lot more sense! and the 3rd flywheel seems to have improve the motor performance. nice job! i would buy yours before the original!
rickhache 2 years ago
Remounted the motor because the unit is top heavy and it improved belt wrap. Added a third flywheel and changed the engagement mechanism. The rack runs on cam followers inside the ibeam.
cucvs 2 years ago
what did you modify?
BHIerie 2 years ago