LOL I'm back ''for their mental state their live is not worth living'' it's painful to talk to you ... So What are you saying is that Obama should kill himself right now because he has depression and his life is not worth living bitch your argument is invalid I'mout talking to you anymore would be an insult to humanity
(continued) The RIGHT to die has no natural basis and no rational basis. It is based on nihilism (and relativism). It is arbitrary and is not stopped by contradiction. The real solution is not assisted suicide (active euthanasia) but palliative care. There is a right to be accompanied in the final moments of your life, as opposed to the "right to die" which does not exist (I think I've made myself clear on that topic).
The "Right To Die" sure does make a good slogan, but if you actually think about it, it's absurd. There is no such thing as a "Right" to die. A right is not the same thing as a need, a desire or a capacity. Above all, a right is not a liberty. You have the liberty to commit suicide, but you do not have a right to commit suicide. A right implies an obligation from someone else. A "Right To Die" is literally absurd, because you can not have a right for something that is inevitable, death. cntinued
I'm an atheist and I agree somehow with the first part, but you didn't illuminate our minds The government is working on this problem for years I don't see the point of this video and the 2th part is just bullshit There are people with mental discorders everywhere. For you knowledge everyone has mentally discorders and It seems you have more mentally discorders than 50% of all of us. How can you be that dumb to say that there are no cure for people with severe mental discorders?
Some regulation would have to be passed on parents with small children. Maybe you're depressed and your life isn't worth living anymore. But putting two toddlers in the foster care system because you'd rather end it and pass on your responsibility as a parent onto your society so you don't have to deal with it... that's not acceptable. At least not while our foster care system is still in its current state.
@brndnrckn You cannot say in the same breath that you believe in the rights of everyone AND that the right to harm and/or kill yourself should be outlawed. Also, everyone has the right to die. It's a requirement.
@brndnrckn You cannot say in the same breath that you believe in the rights of everyone AND that the right to harm and/or kill yourself should be outlawed.
Remineded me of my mimis dog. The dog was blind, couldn't walk and couldn't hear but had a good three years on him, but to see a suicidal dog because they can't do anything on their own but sleep its just best for everyone. I think when it becomes a serious problem for the individual and even starts affecting there friends and family its time to let them go in peace.
@RationalSuicide i dont believe in harm. and that includes self-harm. people dont have the right to harm themselves. because if they want to harm themselves, then they dont respect themselves. if they dont respect themselves why should the people around them? or their government? i believe in the rights of everyone. and freedom. and liberty. but things such as drugs, alcohol, suicide, abortion, euthanasia are all harmful. so i support outlawing all of these things.
@RationalSuicide if respect everyones right to do what they want as long as it is non-harmful. but seeing as you want to kill yourself, and you will probably do it soon, and your opinions will be gone. why should i respect them? why should i accept them if you dont even accept them. nobody has the right to die. suicide is murder.
@RationalSuicide you keep asking for me to respect your opinions, yet you dont even respect your own opinions enough to keep them alive. so why should i respect them? your opinions are nothing if you wont fight for them.
@RationalSuicide i dont see any point in respecting your opinions, if you are going to destroy them anyway. if you want to kill yourself, you have no value, if you have no value, then i can impose what i want on you.
@RationalSuicide if you want to destroy yourself and everything you have, then you have no respect. and based upon what youve said, you do enjoy living, but you just dont enjoy the life you live, or the current circumstances you are in. if you are unhappy with your life dont destroy it, make it better. do what you can. find people who accept you or if you have to, move to a country where you are accepted. and no i dont think life is good, but i do know that it is all we have. we live only once.
@RationalSuicide how can you have such little respect for yourself, and then demand other people to respect you and your rights? that would be like me as a gay person, demanding the right to be able to marry, yet at the same time i was undergoing christian treatment to turn myself straight. if i didnt respect my own sexuality, why does my sexuality deserve to respected by the law? you know what i mean?
as someone with severe depression, who has cut themselves and who has attempted suicide several times, i find this video disgusting. for someone to tell me that they think it would be ok to kill myself.. thats horrible. nobody with a mental disorder wants to kill themselves, they just feel that they have no other option. so what we should do is give people options, to give them help. not just let them die. thats disgusting. you have no idea what it feels like to "want" to die.
@brndnrckn There are people with depression & genuinly want to die, people with depression & think they want to die & people with depression that want attention. She never said someone would be able to just walk in and kill themselves. She said help would be given. If after all the help the person still wants to die & the 2 weeks prior to the death date dont change their mind, then it shows the person in question could not be saved, & probably would of done it to themselves eventually
@brndnrckn Careful what you type on here, Man. You just admitted that you are a cry baby nut job. I guess I admitted that i'm an insensitive ass, but she's so hot and smart and her accent turns me on, too.
@TerryT420 you think im a cry baby nut job because i have depression? haha yeah you are an ass. and i have no problem talking about my depression with people, in fact i think its a positive thing to do.
Never in my life has somthing been such a gray area for me :/ I have bipolar disorder, and there have been COUNTLESS times that I would have accepted this option, and probably wouldn't reconsider for months, but I KNOW my life is worth living now. At what point do we draw the line for this? If you say someone who has a mental disease is capable of making this descision, then you could say they have the capacity to conciously make the descision to slit their wrists, purge, or starve themselves,
You should be allowed to die whenever you want. It's your body, your right. It shouldn't be regulated at all. A persons right to do as they please with their own body should not be trumped by society's feelings on the matter. There is no liberty in that belief.
I agree with this totally. I saw a documentary on tv about two months ago about Dr. Jack Kevorkian; he avidly pushed for these laws and for this to be available to people.
Yes, just like a donor card. Perhaps as an ethical bargain toward organ donation.
Helium is used in laboratories for mice. If personal rights over one's own death were less infantilized by the state, and theocracies, its violent and subtractive characterizations might subside in social and psychological terms. Helium has also been proposed as a humane method in agricultural slaughter.
I do not understand how we will end the sufering of an animal but not a human being. To see a love one being eaten away by cancer and to know they have to be suffering and yet not be willing to stop that suffering is baffaling.
I'm religious but I agree with this video completely--life should be enjoyable, that's why it's unreasonable for people to think it's fine for a person to be in constant pain so long as they're "alive". What kind of a life is that?
My theory on religious people going to hell for suicide goes as such: "Alright guys there is this wonderful happy sunshiney place called heven waiting for you when you die if you are a good person!" I'd assume this caused alot of good honest people to commit suicide as an easy out. To prevent this from continuing they told them they would go to hell for doing this no matter how good they are.
Actually, for once, I only partially agree with Criss. I think (though still dependent on age), nothing whatsoever matters in the decision to end your life. I believe that anyone can decide at any point for any reason. Dying is scary enough without red tape.
Seriously though I don't think those suffering mental illness should be allowed to be euthanised because the rational choice may be influenced or directly changed. Physical pain, okay sure if they're going to die anyway...
@IsthmusLine The problem with that is mental illness, though sometimes controlled, can't truly be cured. What if someone has an illness which makes him prone to extreme paranoia and fear, and no medication has worked, save to put him in a vegetative state? That leads me to the elderly. At a certain point, many suffer mental illness. How many people do you think would rather die than forget their own children? Just a thought.
@skywize I see what you mean about memory loss, and I re-watched the video and realised that 2:40 you said we're only talking about those who can decide. Missed that or forgot about it... I'm sorry.
@IsthmusLine Well, I was speaking of those who can't decide actually. Criss was talking about those who can. It is where we differ in opinion. Consider a dog with multiple injuries that will cripple him. We could never know what the dog is thinking, but tend to euthanize to end suffering. I would think a human without the capacity to put forward their opinion would suffer more than an animal would, psychologically speaking... or am I getting off track....
@skywize Well about people who cannot make the decision, I would think because they are human they should not be treated as animals. If a close person who knows the person well enough could guess what that person would want, or if that person made the decision prior the condition, then I guess proper action could be taken.
Euthanasia is a very personal decision, and we can't go to every person in a coma, and every person suffering schizophrenia and say "It's to relive your suffering!"
@IsthmusLine "It's to relive your suffering!" That reminds me of little bald doctors with scissors.... Anyway, I agree. Without a NDR type agreement, and no one who knows them well enough to guess the patients decision, I guess a 'leave it alone' stance is the best policy.
Ah dang it Criss, you're making me respond again >3>
Depression is not an abnormality as such, it's an illness. You wouldn't call someone with flu abnormal, would you? You'd call them unhealthy. As per the suicide question in the later half of your video I can 100% tell you right now that a psychologist could help with that. All we need is 6-8 sessions and I can guarentee an increase in mood :P
I agree with a lot what you said. However, as for teenager jumping in front of a train... well, I think that most would choose a train anyway, as a kind of dramatic/romantic expression of "I'll show you!" or "I'll make you regret hurting me for the rest of your life"... However, if assisted suicide would be an option to consider even by small percent of teenagers, it would still make the program worth it, IMHO.
It's tragic, but it IS their right, and overpopulation kind of necessitates it. :/ It is a little odd that religion forbids suicide when most are death obsessed. :/
(cont. 2) So to say it is unnatural and wrong to allow people to kill themselves completely misses the point that medical science (which in many cases has a great capacity to do good) has not only prolonged their life unnaturally, but also possibly left them in a position to have a far more painful and frightening death. The health care industry must be held accountable for this, and the only proper way is through the implementation of voluntary euthanasia.
(cont.) With that in mind, it is absolutely ludicrous to not allow people, at this point, to kill themselves in a controlled manner. Without the life-prolonging treatments, at this point, these people would be dead already.
There is no doubt that modern medical science prolongs our lives to a degree that has never been possible before. Modern drugs and treatments have meant that we can live relatively healthy lives for much longer periods of time. People who undergo euthanasia have been receiving these treatments, but in their case their illness has become too severe to continue to be improved by medical treatment.
Yeah I should have looked at your photo before I called u that. Oh so u think she or u are smarter than God eh? LOL. Now go make like a tree and leaf. Bye.
@JungleUnderground I'm guessing you're a fat and ugly fucker living in your parents' basement. I never said that I thought she was smarter than God. I quote: "You don't have to believe in God to be intelligent." Where do I say that I think she's smarter than God?
I stand 100% for assisted suicide. Dr Kevorkian was a wonderful man, who meant nothing more than to relieve people who are suffering horrendous illness, from further suffering. Oregon has actually passed a law allowing people to seek a physican assisted suicide in terminal illness scenarios. The rest of the USA is too concerned about political fallout. We've got a long way to go here in the USA.
So now we learn that your beliefs teaches you to put down the whoever is in chronic pain especially the elderly. Can't you see that your beliefs are almost similar to nazi crimes. You and your other radical atheist friends are nothing but cold blooded sickos.
@aaaaaaac1 lol all you "pro-lifers" ever do is whine about how everyone who disagrees with you is a "murderer" and "nazi" lol bit pathetic I think, no offence. Especially considering the current pope is a former Nazi.
I'm very much a supporter of euthanasia. But I'm also concerned to be as consistent as possible and to use reason to defend my views.
It seems to me that there is an inconsistency, or at least a tension, between being pro euthanasia but anti capital punishment (and many do hold precisely those positions). Or at least, anti capital punishment 'on principle' and believing it to be always wrong.
The main difference between suicide and murder should be that someone being murdered doesn't have a choice in the matter. Ironically, in our society today, someone trying to commit suicide doesn't have a legal choice either.
If someone WANTS to die, they should have the a law enforced option to do so.
We cannot measure it. They can, It is their life, Their body, Their brain. If they wish to die they must be able to do so. Whether they are suffering from physical pain, Or other wise they must be able to commit suicide. I remember many instances where I wished to commit suicide yet I was not able. I remember even more times since I was extremely young where I wished I was not alive or never born. The person should be able to decide for themselves, And for their future selves if they arenot able
i saw a story on the news a couple of years ago, a man that couldn't move his body and barely move his mouth had been denied the right to have euthinasia. now he appeared on the news and he spoke to the camera. he said "please kill me, i don't want to live this life anymore, please, please kill me" after they said that anyone that assisted this man would be charged with manslaughter. i really hope they legalise it here in australia because i don't like seeing people suffer like that.
A concern that the implementation could lead to the abuse of the vulnerable to get and understanding of what I might mean by this please watch The 12 Days Of Cripmas . The relevance only becomes clear towards the end so please stick with it.
I would also like to point out that the group of people discussed include those who spend there lives with great difficulty with communication but despite a host of things that would have me run to dignitas this would not be there choice.
password have died but the villian has captured one last person and has kept him alive now the password holder can either sacrifice his own life to save trillions or self preservation and trillions die the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few so he commits suicide and prevents the world from being destroyed if a heaven exists then he should be there and before i forget he is beaten and tortured for hours before the villian kills him out of pure rage
i have many goals in life being a physicist being alive when religion is a minority but i digress one of my life goals is to die with my genitalia so if tomorrow i get cancer in my genitalia id choose to die to with my (can i stop saying genitalia it sounds weird) balls and dick intact and something i thought about when she said humans oppose death i thought what if we had a super villian that could destroy the world with a goverment weapon but it requires a password all of the ppl that know the
i'm mean no shit sherlock, why not take it further with reference to faith and fear of death and the fact that we really live when we are close to death
Thank you for understanding my right to die with peace and dignity when that time comes. I hope it is an option one day, born of a compassionate awakening of our culture.
hellz yeah...kill em all lol jk. i dont think i could kill anybody but i also think that euthanasia is a humane way to deal with a terminal illness. however, something like depression, anxiety, acne or autism would be considered a chronic condition that doesn't take anyone's life. Well yes people who are depressed feel like their lives have been taken away cuz they cant live anymore but it is not the same illness like aids or cancer. I believe the latter would not be considered assisted suicide.
For a wonderful insight into the frustration of a person with no real reason to live, read the book or watch the movie, "Johnny Got his Gun." — This truly humanizes the concept and helps a person empathize with someone who just can't go on.
@JohnSheridan10001 yes... it's mortal... that's the point. But I'll leave the sin part to religious folks to worry about. Anybody who doesn't buy the sin concept should be able to make decisions without a religious nut telling them what to do.
@JohnSheridan10001 well I'm sorry to have to tell you, but just because your religion says so doesn't make it true, and there's this little thing called separation of church and state
I agree with this. The cool thing is, my family is (very -_-) religious but they believe that when someone becomes a vegetable they should have the right to die because (if) the body has a soul, and it's trapped inside a lifeless body, that it's wrong because your keeping someone spirit from going to heaven.
Woot, my religious family and I agree on SOMETHING.
I love how a DOCTOR can choose when I can die ( and usually fro financial reasons) but I cannot say when I would want my own life to end...great as always Criss!
in my personal opinion you are sexy as hell..... there are alot of pritty blondes out there but i love the way your brain works... you are doing a great job..... good topics and excellent perspectives.... love your vids girl keep them comeing...
This is a problem I have thought for my self... I love extreem sports and If I did come out for a accident.. Ore in another way became a paralyzed of all my mussels and so on as you describe it.. I would actually prefer that someone would kill me!
I want to live until I want to die. Those around me that think that I don't have the right to die when I finally want to die, because it would hurt their feelings, don't truly love me.
My cousin killed himself due to mental illness. We don't hate him for it and we understand why he did it... but he left a lot of broken, grieving people behind. That sort of thing has to account for something. Yeah, you should have control over your own body... and others probably shouldn't have a choice in whether you live or die. But what if an action you take harms many others irrevocably? Can it even come close to being considered morally right?
@ZophiaKavanagh people die all the time without having killed themselves--death will cause ppl to grieve whether one chooses to die or is hit by a bus...
If your cousin was going to kill himself, anyway (which is obviously the case), wouldn't it be kinder to allow him to have a doctor make his death as painless as possible instead of forcing him to stick a gun in his mouth and blow his brains over the walls and ceiling, or choke down a bottle of pesticide?
And, what if his attempt left him as only a vegetable with half a face? Would keeping his inert body alive at the expense of bankrupting your whole family be worth it?
@cobaltspectre That's some pretty vivid/insensitive language. No one likes hearing such things about dead loved ones, even if they aren't accurate (he shot himself in the chest). It's painful. Anyhow, I'm not against euthanasia for terminal patients. But in non-terminal cases, I do not believe it is MORAL to kill yourself and hurt your loved ones. Whether you should have the right to is a whole other story. I think it is not wise to expect well-reasoned decisions from the mentally ill either.
I suffer from a chronic pain syndrome for which there's no cure or useful treatment, & I've sometimes considered suicide, myself. I'm merely expressing my own objections to the stupid laws that we have on euthanasia. It's easy for YOU to believe that suicide is immoral; it's damned selfish to watch someone you supposedly love suffer just because you're too weak to let them go. If you had a DOG that was constantly whimpering and crying in pain, you wouldn't make IT suffer.
@cobaltspectre Get off your goddamned high horse. You aren't the only one who suffers. I've been housebound due to illness and this is something I've dealt with for years. Everyone has contemplated suicide at one point or another. Stop ASSUMING others have it easier. Should you have the right to kill yourself? I don't know; I suppose so. It's your body. Is it moral in my eyes? Hell NO. To cause multiple people a lifetime of suffering to relieve your singular lifetime of suffering is SELFISH.
Don't be obtuse. I don't have to believe that I'm the only one in pain to be in pain. If you want to show the world what a living martyr you are for suffering through your pain for their sake like some kind of self-appointed Christ, that's your business. Just don't demand it of everyone else. If they could stand the pain, or had the family support they needed at their crucial moment (where were YOU?), they wouldn't be gone. So get off YOUR high horse.
@cobaltspectre When did I say you don't have the right to kill yourself? I didn't. In fact, I said you probably did because it is your body. What I did say is that it is selfish and immoral to do so, which is a judgment, not a command not to do so. You acted like making such a judgment was the easiest thing for someone like me to make, as if I don't have my own battles to fight, or I would have never even BOTHERED saying anything about that, because I'm not a whiny little bitch like some.
@cobaltspectre As for my cousin, he had amazing familial support, which is something he felt extremely guilty for, because he felt he was burdening the people he loved. He had bipolar disorder, which is something I don't expect an idiot like you to understand, so I won't bother explaining. Suffice to say, the subject of my cousin is really none of your goddamned business, and this is the last time I'm going to indulge your emotionally retarded ass in a discussion about it. So savor it, freak.
The quality of your family's education, breeding and emotional stability is plain to see in your vocabulary, manners and quality of discourse. Your cousin was the most rational of you for looking around and having the good sense to know when the genetic lottery had landed him with a losing ticket.
You wave his corpse about demanding a right to special treatment which I refuse to indulge.
Join him! His lonely spirit cries out for you to embrace your proper place with him!
@cobaltspectre And are you expressing your own objections by painting sickeningly vivid CSI-like pictures of other people's dead loved ones? Sorry, but that's fucked up and it makes me wonder if you're mentally ill. Nonterminal cases dont really need a doctors help to kill themselves. Id go into non-painful methods, but you seem pretty unstable. Also, it is obvious the reason you are MAD because I think nonterminal suicide is SELFISH not b/c of laws. Deal with it! Preferably w/o being a jackass.
So to me this seems to be a tweeked Pascal Wager, in the sense that there's no inevetable march towards judgement and nothing suggest that any particular action through one's life will infact have anything effect after the fact. Doesnt this leave the "can i afford to be wrong?" question back in business as legit? Especially because it doesnt presuppose a moraly right or wrong? Might be "wrong" tho i strongly belive that its one of the main reasons, that it is not justifyable by law(Denmark)
I agree with you completely. I've tried to off myself a couple times. I remember swallowing a bunch of pills and feeling my life slip away. It was indeed a brutal experience. I had my favorite song playing on repeat while looking at my favorite picture. I can't listen to that song any more because all I remember is how warped it sounded. Every time I see that picture, it makes me feel worse now. My heart stopped beating at random points throughout the experience. I'm glad I didn't die like that.
@chandlerblancaflor -continued- It was a horrendous experience. Dying like that is terrible. Thankfully, I was found before it was too late. However, I still wish I could have had the option of a more peaceful way to go out. No one knows what anyone is going through in their head except that person. I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks; if I want to die, it's my choice alone. I'm alive and I plan to stay this way, but don't ever fucking tell me that I should or shouldn't live.
@chandlerblancaflor -continued again- Sorry I'm blowing up your comment space, but I feel very strongly about this subject. What you said about the brutality of most suicide methods is stunningly real. I think if I had done as you mentioned hypothetically about making a euthanasia appointment, I may very well have changed my mind and I could have avoided that entire experience. I mean, after 3 attempts, it seems I didn't try hard enough and I'm still here. No one should have to go through that.
Yes its still terrible for the family know your loved one is going to die.
But at least they have time to say goodbye, not just receive a letter.
But if it is indeed everyone's OWN choice and there are systems put in place that prevent people (or culture) from pushing people into it, religious people can still chose not to do it just as easy as know.
Great video. I don't believe anyone who doesn't want to live should have to, but should be required to have counseling before euthanized. You're example with the boy and the train was very effective in my opinion.
My grandfather had cancer. It spread quickly in a few months, and surgery disfigured him and made it almost impossible for him to talk. The doctors didn't tell us until after we agreed to the surgery that whether we did it or not, he only had a few months. Near the end, he asked us if we had any extra morphine. We knew what he wanted to do with it. We would have given it to him if it hadn't been disposed of already. Grandpa was a happy person, but he knew what he wanted. The RTD should be legal.
@DragonflameWolfpaw I agree my grandad was hit by a land rover suv and was 90 years old, he had a broken arm, leg, nose, rib, punctured lung, wine stain birth mark & when we said good bye the doctors where euthanising terminally ill patients anyway with 250 ml grams of dia morphine (plus i've told all my catholic friends and not 1 of them had the balls to preach their cowardly inhuman B.S.) nobody has accused us of illegality and the bastard who ran my grandad over never went to jail.
I find this an extremely difficult subject. I can relate to most things that you say.
But what about the people who THINK that they want to die beceause there life feels unbearable, but somehow a couple of months or maybe years later their life suddenly gets better and now they are so happy that they didn't commit suicide or euthanasia. When can you be 100% sure that it is ok for someone to die? I find that a very hard question.
Give me liberty or give me death; better dead than red 2 examples where Americans celebrate suicide over living a life the rather not lived, even if that life wouldn't mean physical hardship. Hell American will send kids on suicidal missions so those not at risk of dying wouldn't have to live a life they rather not live. IMO the faithful in America have no credibility in the argument. In those places where it exists assisted suicide isn't taken lightly, and isn't something that's rushed.
this is a very complex thing , im a nurse and i see the dangerous side of it also ...i agree with you in many points , but not in all of them . a legalized help to kill , would open many doors , that better should be closed . as i said very complex and difficult .look at switzerland -this dead is not painless . and who would have the right to choose if this human being has the right to die or not .
if u are interested in this theme , talk to people who work with sick people , most of them i know are against an active help to die ... there are many other ways ... the golden middle if you want so .our big fear of dying comes from the fact, that most of us never see anyone die , this is the reason why most of us say yes i want to die fast if i have a bad disease or something. but it is a good thing that you think about it and make others think ..
@Fackzilla It shouldn't matter how you feel about it... if you don't want to die, that's your decision. But if someone else doesn't want to be fed through a straw for the rest of their lives, they should have the option to decide whether they want to continue to suffer.
I would love to hear about those "doors...that better should be closed"...
@beenn15 SURE .... what if someone else begins to decide , wich life is worth living and wich is not . or if you have to pay money to thoose who claim to want your best .... there are too many what ifs you know . im met alot of people who comited suicide .... for some of them it was the best choice and way and i respekt and understand them completly...the coin has two sides ...as usual
I must say that I have had toughts coming quite close to the onese expressed by you. But as long as there are bigots in the parlements and courts there is littel hope.
(contined2) What are we solving? However your example imo is a very good one - about that, I think Holland got it right. It's called "Mercy killing" and imo that right -should- somewhat be expanded. So yeah I like your sense of liberalism in that one; this question came up to my mind a lot too - Good views. Good suggestions.
(continued) it can lead to depression - and possibly a series of more deaths (or sucides, I dunno). Freedom of sucide can easily be abused for things that are more than just paralysis - just think of all the teenagers that said they wanted to die, or tried to commit sucide, either because they are abused ect - and today live happy and married. In most cases, we should look at the emotional causes around suicide, and solve, rather than just letting things be with an open door out. (continued)
Nice view, but what I think a country should is provide free healthcare and treatment rather than the right of death - sure that doesn't work with the example I just gave; but (imo) "People have the freedom to do whatever as long as it has no harm to others" - Does sucide have harm on others? in many cases it does; that's why if it was legalized it should be legalized only under strict circumstances. Nothing is more painful than a mother losing her son, a wife losing her husband (contined)
My only concern (as you have already mentioned) is the difficulty of someone in a vegetated state would have in requesting to be euthanized. Maybe this difficulty could be curbed with a better understanding of neuroscience.
I know how i'm gonna die,fuck growing old,if i get cancer or what not..i have a 9mm hollow point bullet with my name on it,so when its that time...I'M OUTTA HERE! :)
My brother had melanoma. It spread to his lungs and brain. Many surgeries later, new brain tumors started showing up on almost a daily basis. His last week of life was spent in hospital with treatment, including food and fluids, withheld, with the exception of a morphine pump. He would have chosen euthanasia, if it had been available. Euthanasia should not be involuntary, but it should be available to those who want it. If we don't own our own bodies, our lives, we are slaves.
Luckily in Scotland you can write what's called a "living will", which states that you wish to be helped to die in comfort under certain specified conditions. This is then signed by a lawyer, a witness and a doctor, and it is stated that at the time of writing the document, you are mentally sound. I actually need to get round to writing one of those... I don't want to go the way my grandmother did :(
In the Netherlands, it's all too easy for family members to gain power of attorney & then urge physicians to expedite the assisted death of relatives so they will receive their inheritance sooner. Greed often overpowers compassion. The Dutch also permit the euthanasia of children as young as twelve at the request of the child, even if the parents object.
Yes or no to laws permitting assisted suicide is a tough call, but once it's the law, regulations aren't likely to tighten, but to relax.
@tripleJ1955 No offence but i'm not going to take your word for that, i'd like a link to a reputable newspaper or source (not The Sun or Fox News) that confirms what you're saying. I think there probably is abuse, but i don't think it's very common. And i agree that teenagers should be able to end their own lives against the objections of the parents, if the parents are keeping a suffering teenager alive against his/her wishes that's child abuse.
What if someone is unable to communicate but has changed their mind about wanting to be killed?
Triipticz 1 day ago
LOL I'm back ''for their mental state their live is not worth living'' it's painful to talk to you ... So What are you saying is that Obama should kill himself right now because he has depression and his life is not worth living bitch your argument is invalid I'mout talking to you anymore would be an insult to humanity
24199312 2 weeks ago
Finally I would like to point out the dangers that this so-called "right to die" present.
First of all, it could bring us to the slippery slope, which ultimately leads to Nazism.
It also brings a general depreciation of human life along with the destruction of the ethical principles of medicine.
(Never forget that injustice is beyond consent)
VerbierSkier 2 weeks ago
(continued) The RIGHT to die has no natural basis and no rational basis. It is based on nihilism (and relativism). It is arbitrary and is not stopped by contradiction. The real solution is not assisted suicide (active euthanasia) but palliative care. There is a right to be accompanied in the final moments of your life, as opposed to the "right to die" which does not exist (I think I've made myself clear on that topic).
VerbierSkier 2 weeks ago
The "Right To Die" sure does make a good slogan, but if you actually think about it, it's absurd. There is no such thing as a "Right" to die. A right is not the same thing as a need, a desire or a capacity. Above all, a right is not a liberty. You have the liberty to commit suicide, but you do not have a right to commit suicide. A right implies an obligation from someone else. A "Right To Die" is literally absurd, because you can not have a right for something that is inevitable, death. cntinued
VerbierSkier 2 weeks ago
I'm an atheist and I agree somehow with the first part, but you didn't illuminate our minds The government is working on this problem for years I don't see the point of this video and the 2th part is just bullshit There are people with mental discorders everywhere. For you knowledge everyone has mentally discorders and It seems you have more mentally discorders than 50% of all of us. How can you be that dumb to say that there are no cure for people with severe mental discorders?
24199312 2 weeks ago
Some regulation would have to be passed on parents with small children. Maybe you're depressed and your life isn't worth living anymore. But putting two toddlers in the foster care system because you'd rather end it and pass on your responsibility as a parent onto your society so you don't have to deal with it... that's not acceptable. At least not while our foster care system is still in its current state.
AlyssaJLewis 3 weeks ago
Jumping in front of a train because your girlfriend/boyfriend left you...
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former"-Albert Einstein
If you still decide to commit suicide at least have some decency. Don't jump in front of a train!
Many train drivers remain traumatized after. If your're doing in a train station not only the train driver but also the passengers will be horrified.
SuperThe86 3 weeks ago
WTS suicide booth.
aquamonkeyeg 4 weeks ago
Tolerance, Respect, Arguments and a good point of view about this. I like the way of your thoughts.
ValakyaCorp 1 month ago
@brndnrckn You cannot say in the same breath that you believe in the rights of everyone AND that the right to harm and/or kill yourself should be outlawed. Also, everyone has the right to die. It's a requirement.
ldailey78 1 month ago
@brndnrckn You cannot say in the same breath that you believe in the rights of everyone AND that the right to harm and/or kill yourself should be outlawed.
ldailey78 1 month ago
You have the question backwards.
Who has the right ( by any definition, legal or otherwise ) to prevent you from dying?
Who has the right to meddle in someone's very, very, personal affairs?
If someone asked my advice, I would be happy to discuss it, to help them decide. But it's THEIR decision.
jeffiek 1 month ago
Remineded me of my mimis dog. The dog was blind, couldn't walk and couldn't hear but had a good three years on him, but to see a suicidal dog because they can't do anything on their own but sleep its just best for everyone. I think when it becomes a serious problem for the individual and even starts affecting there friends and family its time to let them go in peace.
roquemyracle127 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide i dont believe in harm. and that includes self-harm. people dont have the right to harm themselves. because if they want to harm themselves, then they dont respect themselves. if they dont respect themselves why should the people around them? or their government? i believe in the rights of everyone. and freedom. and liberty. but things such as drugs, alcohol, suicide, abortion, euthanasia are all harmful. so i support outlawing all of these things.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide if respect everyones right to do what they want as long as it is non-harmful. but seeing as you want to kill yourself, and you will probably do it soon, and your opinions will be gone. why should i respect them? why should i accept them if you dont even accept them. nobody has the right to die. suicide is murder.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide you keep asking for me to respect your opinions, yet you dont even respect your own opinions enough to keep them alive. so why should i respect them? your opinions are nothing if you wont fight for them.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide i dont see any point in respecting your opinions, if you are going to destroy them anyway. if you want to kill yourself, you have no value, if you have no value, then i can impose what i want on you.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide if you want to destroy yourself and everything you have, then you have no respect. and based upon what youve said, you do enjoy living, but you just dont enjoy the life you live, or the current circumstances you are in. if you are unhappy with your life dont destroy it, make it better. do what you can. find people who accept you or if you have to, move to a country where you are accepted. and no i dont think life is good, but i do know that it is all we have. we live only once.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@RationalSuicide how can you have such little respect for yourself, and then demand other people to respect you and your rights? that would be like me as a gay person, demanding the right to be able to marry, yet at the same time i was undergoing christian treatment to turn myself straight. if i didnt respect my own sexuality, why does my sexuality deserve to respected by the law? you know what i mean?
brndnrckn 1 month ago
religions greatest enemy is reality
archie977 1 month ago
as someone with severe depression, who has cut themselves and who has attempted suicide several times, i find this video disgusting. for someone to tell me that they think it would be ok to kill myself.. thats horrible. nobody with a mental disorder wants to kill themselves, they just feel that they have no other option. so what we should do is give people options, to give them help. not just let them die. thats disgusting. you have no idea what it feels like to "want" to die.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
@brndnrckn There are people with depression & genuinly want to die, people with depression & think they want to die & people with depression that want attention. She never said someone would be able to just walk in and kill themselves. She said help would be given. If after all the help the person still wants to die & the 2 weeks prior to the death date dont change their mind, then it shows the person in question could not be saved, & probably would of done it to themselves eventually
Bexenstar 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
@brndnrckn Careful what you type on here, Man. You just admitted that you are a cry baby nut job. I guess I admitted that i'm an insensitive ass, but she's so hot and smart and her accent turns me on, too.
TerryT420 1 month ago
@TerryT420 you think im a cry baby nut job because i have depression? haha yeah you are an ass. and i have no problem talking about my depression with people, in fact i think its a positive thing to do.
brndnrckn 1 month ago
Beautiful but unfortunately Utopian in the right here right now
vatreniboris 1 month ago
You white people( Esau, Edomites ) are the Devil and you are going into Slavery!
Jacobrise7 2 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
Never in my life has somthing been such a gray area for me :/ I have bipolar disorder, and there have been COUNTLESS times that I would have accepted this option, and probably wouldn't reconsider for months, but I KNOW my life is worth living now. At what point do we draw the line for this? If you say someone who has a mental disease is capable of making this descision, then you could say they have the capacity to conciously make the descision to slit their wrists, purge, or starve themselves,
AFanOfVocaloid 2 months ago
@AFanOfVocaloid Sorry it doesnt matter, if I want to die for any reason it should be my decition.
escapeartist80 1 month ago
So I just hate my life, nothing is wrong with me, is it cool if I kill myself?
Twizzlleerr 2 months ago
Any conversation with you is worth it :)
bartosinc 2 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
You should be allowed to die whenever you want. It's your body, your right. It shouldn't be regulated at all. A persons right to do as they please with their own body should not be trumped by society's feelings on the matter. There is no liberty in that belief.
JedahX21 2 months ago 22
I agree with this totally. I saw a documentary on tv about two months ago about Dr. Jack Kevorkian; he avidly pushed for these laws and for this to be available to people.
Maximus21x 2 months ago
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Some one needs a hug.
TheMrgoku1985 2 months ago
I love this girl!!
bermudaguy1 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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I have MS and I plan on taking care of it before I can't take care of myself. I will buy a gun if I have to. I should not have too.
Iagobott 2 months ago
I have MS and I plan on taking care of it before I can't take care of myself. I will buy a gun if I have to. I should not have too.
Iagobott 2 months ago
Yes, just like a donor card. Perhaps as an ethical bargain toward organ donation.
Helium is used in laboratories for mice. If personal rights over one's own death were less infantilized by the state, and theocracies, its violent and subtractive characterizations might subside in social and psychological terms. Helium has also been proposed as a humane method in agricultural slaughter.
antuerius 2 months ago
Awesome. I miss you.
IndifferentSky 2 months ago
i'm totally agree with you, it's inhumane to force someone to suffer...
Hk27warrior 3 months ago
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I do not understand how we will end the sufering of an animal but not a human being. To see a love one being eaten away by cancer and to know they have to be suffering and yet not be willing to stop that suffering is baffaling.
cynt123able 3 months ago
Cool video. If life is supposed to be a right, not a duty, the argumentation is very reasonable.
toal193 3 months ago
It should be legal!
TheCuteVamp 3 months ago
I'm religious but I agree with this video completely--life should be enjoyable, that's why it's unreasonable for people to think it's fine for a person to be in constant pain so long as they're "alive". What kind of a life is that?
tearthgrrl 3 months ago 12
My theory on religious people going to hell for suicide goes as such: "Alright guys there is this wonderful happy sunshiney place called heven waiting for you when you die if you are a good person!" I'd assume this caused alot of good honest people to commit suicide as an easy out. To prevent this from continuing they told them they would go to hell for doing this no matter how good they are.
malaxvor 3 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
Actually, for once, I only partially agree with Criss. I think (though still dependent on age), nothing whatsoever matters in the decision to end your life. I believe that anyone can decide at any point for any reason. Dying is scary enough without red tape.
skywize 3 months ago
Seriously though I don't think those suffering mental illness should be allowed to be euthanised because the rational choice may be influenced or directly changed. Physical pain, okay sure if they're going to die anyway...
IsthmusLine 3 months ago
@IsthmusLine The problem with that is mental illness, though sometimes controlled, can't truly be cured. What if someone has an illness which makes him prone to extreme paranoia and fear, and no medication has worked, save to put him in a vegetative state? That leads me to the elderly. At a certain point, many suffer mental illness. How many people do you think would rather die than forget their own children? Just a thought.
skywize 3 months ago
@skywize I see what you mean about memory loss, and I re-watched the video and realised that 2:40 you said we're only talking about those who can decide. Missed that or forgot about it... I'm sorry.
IsthmusLine 3 months ago
@IsthmusLine Well, I was speaking of those who can't decide actually. Criss was talking about those who can. It is where we differ in opinion. Consider a dog with multiple injuries that will cripple him. We could never know what the dog is thinking, but tend to euthanize to end suffering. I would think a human without the capacity to put forward their opinion would suffer more than an animal would, psychologically speaking... or am I getting off track....
skywize 3 months ago
@skywize Well about people who cannot make the decision, I would think because they are human they should not be treated as animals. If a close person who knows the person well enough could guess what that person would want, or if that person made the decision prior the condition, then I guess proper action could be taken.
Euthanasia is a very personal decision, and we can't go to every person in a coma, and every person suffering schizophrenia and say "It's to relive your suffering!"
IsthmusLine 3 months ago
@IsthmusLine "It's to relive your suffering!" That reminds me of little bald doctors with scissors.... Anyway, I agree. Without a NDR type agreement, and no one who knows them well enough to guess the patients decision, I guess a 'leave it alone' stance is the best policy.
skywize 3 months ago
There should be suicide booths
IsthmusLine 3 months ago
Ah dang it Criss, you're making me respond again >3>
Depression is not an abnormality as such, it's an illness. You wouldn't call someone with flu abnormal, would you? You'd call them unhealthy. As per the suicide question in the later half of your video I can 100% tell you right now that a psychologist could help with that. All we need is 6-8 sessions and I can guarentee an increase in mood :P
LichQueenKathie 3 months ago
I agree with a lot what you said. However, as for teenager jumping in front of a train... well, I think that most would choose a train anyway, as a kind of dramatic/romantic expression of "I'll show you!" or "I'll make you regret hurting me for the rest of your life"... However, if assisted suicide would be an option to consider even by small percent of teenagers, it would still make the program worth it, IMHO.
MidnightTea7 4 months ago
nothing better than a hot atheist foreigner :), btw I love your accent <3
andresdohko 4 months ago
Euthanasia should be legal no matter what the circumstance
Ziggie1o1 4 months ago
It's tragic, but it IS their right, and overpopulation kind of necessitates it. :/ It is a little odd that religion forbids suicide when most are death obsessed. :/
HPGWellscraft 4 months ago
@HPGWellscraft lol yeah
DBZass 3 months ago
@DBZass indeed. :)
HPGWellscraft 3 months ago
Did this video ever end up getting flagged?
TheYellowSunsation 4 months ago
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TheYellowSunsation 4 months ago
Exactly.
TheYellowSunsation 4 months ago
(cont. 2) So to say it is unnatural and wrong to allow people to kill themselves completely misses the point that medical science (which in many cases has a great capacity to do good) has not only prolonged their life unnaturally, but also possibly left them in a position to have a far more painful and frightening death. The health care industry must be held accountable for this, and the only proper way is through the implementation of voluntary euthanasia.
emilywatches89 4 months ago
(cont.) With that in mind, it is absolutely ludicrous to not allow people, at this point, to kill themselves in a controlled manner. Without the life-prolonging treatments, at this point, these people would be dead already.
emilywatches89 4 months ago
There is no doubt that modern medical science prolongs our lives to a degree that has never been possible before. Modern drugs and treatments have meant that we can live relatively healthy lives for much longer periods of time. People who undergo euthanasia have been receiving these treatments, but in their case their illness has become too severe to continue to be improved by medical treatment.
emilywatches89 4 months ago
I fully support youth in Asia, they should have the same rights as everyone else!
ornitorrinco01 4 months ago
I'm religious, but I fully support euthanasia and assisted suicide. It's not fair to let someone suffer.
bobsbluebox 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
I wish you had a better camera. Your videos are amazing. I really love your accent. C:
arbitraryMango 4 months ago
Boy, I loved to screw the shit out of her.
JungleUnderground 5 months ago
@JungleUnderground Oh yes, focus on her looks and your fantasies instead of her intelligence and what she has to say. Dumbass.
bobsbluebox 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
@bobsbluebox
LOL. I already did on another vid. And trust me she aint that smart sweetheart. She doesnt even believe in God.
JungleUnderground 4 months ago
@JungleUnderground Don't call me 'sweetheart', dickhead. You don't have to believe in God to be intelligent. She's obviously way smarter than you.
bobsbluebox 4 months ago
@bobsbluebox
Yeah I should have looked at your photo before I called u that. Oh so u think she or u are smarter than God eh? LOL. Now go make like a tree and leaf. Bye.
JungleUnderground 4 months ago
@JungleUnderground I'm guessing you're a fat and ugly fucker living in your parents' basement. I never said that I thought she was smarter than God. I quote: "You don't have to believe in God to be intelligent." Where do I say that I think she's smarter than God?
bobsbluebox 4 months ago
@bobsbluebox
Your ego is astounding.
JungleUnderground 4 months ago
@JungleUnderground And you are an idiot.
bobsbluebox 4 months ago
@bobsbluebox
LOL. It is wise to love God.
JungleUnderground 4 months ago
I stand 100% for assisted suicide. Dr Kevorkian was a wonderful man, who meant nothing more than to relieve people who are suffering horrendous illness, from further suffering. Oregon has actually passed a law allowing people to seek a physican assisted suicide in terminal illness scenarios. The rest of the USA is too concerned about political fallout. We've got a long way to go here in the USA.
TwoChihuahuas 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
suicide is never an option, euthanasia? why not, but only for fatal cases or needs
mintDesktop 5 months ago
So now we learn that your beliefs teaches you to put down the whoever is in chronic pain especially the elderly. Can't you see that your beliefs are almost similar to nazi crimes. You and your other radical atheist friends are nothing but cold blooded sickos.
aaaaaaac1 5 months ago
@aaaaaaac1 no not really they do it to them selves not us so bullshit
TheHotsaucekiller 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
@aaaaaaac1 this video had nothing to do with atheism.
tigerwoods875 5 months ago
@aaaaaaac1 lol all you "pro-lifers" ever do is whine about how everyone who disagrees with you is a "murderer" and "nazi" lol bit pathetic I think, no offence. Especially considering the current pope is a former Nazi.
Im pro-euthanasia and pro-abortion. Period!
MamaMario13 4 months ago
I'm very much a supporter of euthanasia. But I'm also concerned to be as consistent as possible and to use reason to defend my views.
It seems to me that there is an inconsistency, or at least a tension, between being pro euthanasia but anti capital punishment (and many do hold precisely those positions). Or at least, anti capital punishment 'on principle' and believing it to be always wrong.
Clear404 5 months ago
@Clear404 The difference is that capital punishment is involuntary whereas euthanasia is consensual.
ToAcUt 4 months ago
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@Clear404 The difference is that capital punishment is involuntary whereas euthanasia is consensual.
ToAcUt 4 months ago
Just look in the clip of mettalica: THE ONE, i wish the same as that guy (sorry any bad english).
tiocabecinha 5 months ago
The main difference between suicide and murder should be that someone being murdered doesn't have a choice in the matter. Ironically, in our society today, someone trying to commit suicide doesn't have a legal choice either.
If someone WANTS to die, they should have the a law enforced option to do so.
eatshitgoogle 5 months ago
We cannot measure it. They can, It is their life, Their body, Their brain. If they wish to die they must be able to do so. Whether they are suffering from physical pain, Or other wise they must be able to commit suicide. I remember many instances where I wished to commit suicide yet I was not able. I remember even more times since I was extremely young where I wished I was not alive or never born. The person should be able to decide for themselves, And for their future selves if they arenot able
TheEnglishAtheist1 5 months ago
@TheEnglishAtheist1 later on.
TheEnglishAtheist1 5 months ago
What can I say, other than I agree with you?
Of course, I could say I disagree, or that you're fucking retarded, but I don't feel like lying today. ;3
ParaSpite 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
i saw a story on the news a couple of years ago, a man that couldn't move his body and barely move his mouth had been denied the right to have euthinasia. now he appeared on the news and he spoke to the camera. he said "please kill me, i don't want to live this life anymore, please, please kill me" after they said that anyone that assisted this man would be charged with manslaughter. i really hope they legalise it here in australia because i don't like seeing people suffer like that.
87idk 5 months ago
A concern that the implementation could lead to the abuse of the vulnerable to get and understanding of what I might mean by this please watch The 12 Days Of Cripmas . The relevance only becomes clear towards the end so please stick with it.
I would also like to point out that the group of people discussed include those who spend there lives with great difficulty with communication but despite a host of things that would have me run to dignitas this would not be there choice.
way2jaded1 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ZOMGitsCriss
password have died but the villian has captured one last person and has kept him alive now the password holder can either sacrifice his own life to save trillions or self preservation and trillions die the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few so he commits suicide and prevents the world from being destroyed if a heaven exists then he should be there and before i forget he is beaten and tortured for hours before the villian kills him out of pure rage
TheHotsaucekiller 6 months ago
i have many goals in life being a physicist being alive when religion is a minority but i digress one of my life goals is to die with my genitalia so if tomorrow i get cancer in my genitalia id choose to die to with my (can i stop saying genitalia it sounds weird) balls and dick intact and something i thought about when she said humans oppose death i thought what if we had a super villian that could destroy the world with a goverment weapon but it requires a password all of the ppl that know the
TheHotsaucekiller 6 months ago
hmm a rare miss
i'm mean no shit sherlock, why not take it further with reference to faith and fear of death and the fact that we really live when we are close to death
human453 6 months ago
Thank you for understanding my right to die with peace and dignity when that time comes. I hope it is an option one day, born of a compassionate awakening of our culture.
JusticeIsWhere 6 months ago
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5H4K490 6 months ago
hellz yeah...kill em all lol jk. i dont think i could kill anybody but i also think that euthanasia is a humane way to deal with a terminal illness. however, something like depression, anxiety, acne or autism would be considered a chronic condition that doesn't take anyone's life. Well yes people who are depressed feel like their lives have been taken away cuz they cant live anymore but it is not the same illness like aids or cancer. I believe the latter would not be considered assisted suicide.
axelvideoandfilm 6 months ago
For a wonderful insight into the frustration of a person with no real reason to live, read the book or watch the movie, "Johnny Got his Gun." — This truly humanizes the concept and helps a person empathize with someone who just can't go on.
PhantomMarquis 7 months ago
@JohnSheridan10001 yes... it's mortal... that's the point. But I'll leave the sin part to religious folks to worry about. Anybody who doesn't buy the sin concept should be able to make decisions without a religious nut telling them what to do.
beenn15 7 months ago
@JohnSheridan10001 well I'm sorry to have to tell you, but just because your religion says so doesn't make it true, and there's this little thing called separation of church and state
Spocktacular96 7 months ago 2
What's interesting is the huge opposition to euthanasia we see around the world, yet passive euthanasia is widespread and generally accepted.
Maybe it's just me, but I think that's rather hipocritical.
Secondly, just because we have the technology to keep people alive, doesn't mean we should.
Good vid, again!
auritone 7 months ago
she turns me on... oh come on guys! be honest.
Kokia08 7 months ago
You are a very progressive voice.
kennylaylives 7 months ago
I agree I wouldn't want to live and not beable to move around. That would suck.
comedy101ful 7 months ago
me again Dont you think some people want to end it for family and for dignity?Yo you are the bomb!!!!!!!!!!! Dont stop please
TheCaddy84 7 months ago
I am with you 100%. People have the right to make there own decision "die or live".
sokal91 8 months ago
I actually like what you are proposing. It might work if we offer help to anyone suicidal before hooking them up to the suicide machine.
I also really like euthanasia card idea. Just allow the applicant to think deeply about their choices.
ToastmachineIdiot 8 months ago
I agree with this. The cool thing is, my family is (very -_-) religious but they believe that when someone becomes a vegetable they should have the right to die because (if) the body has a soul, and it's trapped inside a lifeless body, that it's wrong because your keeping someone spirit from going to heaven.
Woot, my religious family and I agree on SOMETHING.
littlebluebird3 8 months ago
I love how a DOCTOR can choose when I can die ( and usually fro financial reasons) but I cannot say when I would want my own life to end...great as always Criss!
sepiasiren 8 months ago
in my personal opinion you are sexy as hell..... there are alot of pritty blondes out there but i love the way your brain works... you are doing a great job..... good topics and excellent perspectives.... love your vids girl keep them comeing...
trueskeptic86 8 months ago
This is a problem I have thought for my self... I love extreem sports and If I did come out for a accident.. Ore in another way became a paralyzed of all my mussels and so on as you describe it.. I would actually prefer that someone would kill me!
Alfey 8 months ago
Beautifully articulated.
robwaters63 8 months ago
I want to live until I want to die. Those around me that think that I don't have the right to die when I finally want to die, because it would hurt their feelings, don't truly love me.
ndrthrdr1 8 months ago 3
My cousin killed himself due to mental illness. We don't hate him for it and we understand why he did it... but he left a lot of broken, grieving people behind. That sort of thing has to account for something. Yeah, you should have control over your own body... and others probably shouldn't have a choice in whether you live or die. But what if an action you take harms many others irrevocably? Can it even come close to being considered morally right?
ZophiaKavanagh 8 months ago
@ZophiaKavanagh people die all the time without having killed themselves--death will cause ppl to grieve whether one chooses to die or is hit by a bus...
sepiasiren 8 months ago
@ZophiaKavanagh
If your cousin was going to kill himself, anyway (which is obviously the case), wouldn't it be kinder to allow him to have a doctor make his death as painless as possible instead of forcing him to stick a gun in his mouth and blow his brains over the walls and ceiling, or choke down a bottle of pesticide?
And, what if his attempt left him as only a vegetable with half a face? Would keeping his inert body alive at the expense of bankrupting your whole family be worth it?
cobaltspectre 4 months ago
@cobaltspectre That's some pretty vivid/insensitive language. No one likes hearing such things about dead loved ones, even if they aren't accurate (he shot himself in the chest). It's painful. Anyhow, I'm not against euthanasia for terminal patients. But in non-terminal cases, I do not believe it is MORAL to kill yourself and hurt your loved ones. Whether you should have the right to is a whole other story. I think it is not wise to expect well-reasoned decisions from the mentally ill either.
ZophiaKavanagh 3 months ago
@ZophiaKavanagh
I suffer from a chronic pain syndrome for which there's no cure or useful treatment, & I've sometimes considered suicide, myself. I'm merely expressing my own objections to the stupid laws that we have on euthanasia. It's easy for YOU to believe that suicide is immoral; it's damned selfish to watch someone you supposedly love suffer just because you're too weak to let them go. If you had a DOG that was constantly whimpering and crying in pain, you wouldn't make IT suffer.
cobaltspectre 3 months ago
@cobaltspectre Get off your goddamned high horse. You aren't the only one who suffers. I've been housebound due to illness and this is something I've dealt with for years. Everyone has contemplated suicide at one point or another. Stop ASSUMING others have it easier. Should you have the right to kill yourself? I don't know; I suppose so. It's your body. Is it moral in my eyes? Hell NO. To cause multiple people a lifetime of suffering to relieve your singular lifetime of suffering is SELFISH.
ZophiaKavanagh 3 months ago
@ZophiaKavanagh
Don't be obtuse. I don't have to believe that I'm the only one in pain to be in pain. If you want to show the world what a living martyr you are for suffering through your pain for their sake like some kind of self-appointed Christ, that's your business. Just don't demand it of everyone else. If they could stand the pain, or had the family support they needed at their crucial moment (where were YOU?), they wouldn't be gone. So get off YOUR high horse.
cobaltspectre 3 months ago
@cobaltspectre When did I say you don't have the right to kill yourself? I didn't. In fact, I said you probably did because it is your body. What I did say is that it is selfish and immoral to do so, which is a judgment, not a command not to do so. You acted like making such a judgment was the easiest thing for someone like me to make, as if I don't have my own battles to fight, or I would have never even BOTHERED saying anything about that, because I'm not a whiny little bitch like some.
ZophiaKavanagh 3 months ago
@cobaltspectre As for my cousin, he had amazing familial support, which is something he felt extremely guilty for, because he felt he was burdening the people he loved. He had bipolar disorder, which is something I don't expect an idiot like you to understand, so I won't bother explaining. Suffice to say, the subject of my cousin is really none of your goddamned business, and this is the last time I'm going to indulge your emotionally retarded ass in a discussion about it. So savor it, freak.
ZophiaKavanagh 3 months ago
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@ZophiaKavanagh
The quality of your family's education, breeding and emotional stability is plain to see in your vocabulary, manners and quality of discourse. Your cousin was the most rational of you for looking around and having the good sense to know when the genetic lottery had landed him with a losing ticket.
You wave his corpse about demanding a right to special treatment which I refuse to indulge.
Join him! His lonely spirit cries out for you to embrace your proper place with him!
cobaltspectre 3 months ago
@cobaltspectre And are you expressing your own objections by painting sickeningly vivid CSI-like pictures of other people's dead loved ones? Sorry, but that's fucked up and it makes me wonder if you're mentally ill. Nonterminal cases dont really need a doctors help to kill themselves. Id go into non-painful methods, but you seem pretty unstable. Also, it is obvious the reason you are MAD because I think nonterminal suicide is SELFISH not b/c of laws. Deal with it! Preferably w/o being a jackass.
ZophiaKavanagh 3 months ago
I hope you get your new computer soon. You are a rare treasure
oldcomic1 9 months ago
So to me this seems to be a tweeked Pascal Wager, in the sense that there's no inevetable march towards judgement and nothing suggest that any particular action through one's life will infact have anything effect after the fact. Doesnt this leave the "can i afford to be wrong?" question back in business as legit? Especially because it doesnt presuppose a moraly right or wrong? Might be "wrong" tho i strongly belive that its one of the main reasons, that it is not justifyable by law(Denmark)
deviantsounds 9 months ago
I agree with you completely. I've tried to off myself a couple times. I remember swallowing a bunch of pills and feeling my life slip away. It was indeed a brutal experience. I had my favorite song playing on repeat while looking at my favorite picture. I can't listen to that song any more because all I remember is how warped it sounded. Every time I see that picture, it makes me feel worse now. My heart stopped beating at random points throughout the experience. I'm glad I didn't die like that.
chandlerblancaflor 9 months ago
@chandlerblancaflor -continued- It was a horrendous experience. Dying like that is terrible. Thankfully, I was found before it was too late. However, I still wish I could have had the option of a more peaceful way to go out. No one knows what anyone is going through in their head except that person. I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks; if I want to die, it's my choice alone. I'm alive and I plan to stay this way, but don't ever fucking tell me that I should or shouldn't live.
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chandlerblancaflor 9 months ago
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@chandlerblancaflor -continued again- Sorry I'm blowing up your comment space, but I feel very strongly about this subject. What you said about the brutality of most suicide methods is stunningly real. I think if I had done as you mentioned hypothetically about making a euthanasia appointment, I may very well have changed my mind and I could have avoided that entire experience. I mean, after 3 attempts, it seems I didn't try hard enough and I'm still here. No one should have to go through that.
chandlerblancaflor 9 months ago
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no, it's you
JosiahSCooper 9 months ago
There's really no such thing as rights. Though, whatever should be done should be done.
JosiahSCooper 9 months ago
The best answer i have received against the right to euthanasia was "god". advice: punch in the face and dump them in the bush.
dexterdamonkey 9 months ago
You have a point, it might even decrees suicide.
Yes its still terrible for the family know your loved one is going to die.
But at least they have time to say goodbye, not just receive a letter.
But if it is indeed everyone's OWN choice and there are systems put in place that prevent people (or culture) from pushing people into it, religious people can still chose not to do it just as easy as know.
But there might be more arguments against it.
NaliTikva 9 months ago
Great video. I don't believe anyone who doesn't want to live should have to, but should be required to have counseling before euthanized. You're example with the boy and the train was very effective in my opinion.
xCorpseChic 9 months ago
My grandfather had cancer. It spread quickly in a few months, and surgery disfigured him and made it almost impossible for him to talk. The doctors didn't tell us until after we agreed to the surgery that whether we did it or not, he only had a few months. Near the end, he asked us if we had any extra morphine. We knew what he wanted to do with it. We would have given it to him if it hadn't been disposed of already. Grandpa was a happy person, but he knew what he wanted. The RTD should be legal.
DragonflameWolfpaw 10 months ago
@DragonflameWolfpaw I agree my grandad was hit by a land rover suv and was 90 years old, he had a broken arm, leg, nose, rib, punctured lung, wine stain birth mark & when we said good bye the doctors where euthanising terminally ill patients anyway with 250 ml grams of dia morphine (plus i've told all my catholic friends and not 1 of them had the balls to preach their cowardly inhuman B.S.) nobody has accused us of illegality and the bastard who ran my grandad over never went to jail.
silverfox2358 9 months ago
I find this an extremely difficult subject. I can relate to most things that you say.
But what about the people who THINK that they want to die beceause there life feels unbearable, but somehow a couple of months or maybe years later their life suddenly gets better and now they are so happy that they didn't commit suicide or euthanasia. When can you be 100% sure that it is ok for someone to die? I find that a very hard question.
ALIChurchill 10 months ago
In fact I do think, that the right to die should be perfectly legal, at least not outlawed (in case you survive), if not serviced.
Trinivalts 10 months ago
Give me liberty or give me death; better dead than red 2 examples where Americans celebrate suicide over living a life the rather not lived, even if that life wouldn't mean physical hardship. Hell American will send kids on suicidal missions so those not at risk of dying wouldn't have to live a life they rather not live. IMO the faithful in America have no credibility in the argument. In those places where it exists assisted suicide isn't taken lightly, and isn't something that's rushed.
5lkk 10 months ago
this is a very complex thing , im a nurse and i see the dangerous side of it also ...i agree with you in many points , but not in all of them . a legalized help to kill , would open many doors , that better should be closed . as i said very complex and difficult .look at switzerland -this dead is not painless . and who would have the right to choose if this human being has the right to die or not .
Fackzilla 10 months ago
if u are interested in this theme , talk to people who work with sick people , most of them i know are against an active help to die ... there are many other ways ... the golden middle if you want so .our big fear of dying comes from the fact, that most of us never see anyone die , this is the reason why most of us say yes i want to die fast if i have a bad disease or something. but it is a good thing that you think about it and make others think ..
and ur right, in many points
Fackzilla 10 months ago
@Fackzilla It shouldn't matter how you feel about it... if you don't want to die, that's your decision. But if someone else doesn't want to be fed through a straw for the rest of their lives, they should have the option to decide whether they want to continue to suffer.
I would love to hear about those "doors...that better should be closed"...
beenn15 7 months ago
@beenn15 SURE .... what if someone else begins to decide , wich life is worth living and wich is not . or if you have to pay money to thoose who claim to want your best .... there are too many what ifs you know . im met alot of people who comited suicide .... for some of them it was the best choice and way and i respekt and understand them completly...the coin has two sides ...as usual
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beenn15 6 months ago
I must say that I have had toughts coming quite close to the onese expressed by you. But as long as there are bigots in the parlements and courts there is littel hope.
lawfuIneutral 10 months ago
(contined2) What are we solving? However your example imo is a very good one - about that, I think Holland got it right. It's called "Mercy killing" and imo that right -should- somewhat be expanded. So yeah I like your sense of liberalism in that one; this question came up to my mind a lot too - Good views. Good suggestions.
CreepyLizard 10 months ago
(continued) it can lead to depression - and possibly a series of more deaths (or sucides, I dunno). Freedom of sucide can easily be abused for things that are more than just paralysis - just think of all the teenagers that said they wanted to die, or tried to commit sucide, either because they are abused ect - and today live happy and married. In most cases, we should look at the emotional causes around suicide, and solve, rather than just letting things be with an open door out. (continued)
CreepyLizard 10 months ago
Nice view, but what I think a country should is provide free healthcare and treatment rather than the right of death - sure that doesn't work with the example I just gave; but (imo) "People have the freedom to do whatever as long as it has no harm to others" - Does sucide have harm on others? in many cases it does; that's why if it was legalized it should be legalized only under strict circumstances. Nothing is more painful than a mother losing her son, a wife losing her husband (contined)
CreepyLizard 10 months ago
Would you ever consider running for an MP position?
Highice007 10 months ago
hey i myself wanna be shot in the head after watching that new video friday
josejacome 10 months ago
My only concern (as you have already mentioned) is the difficulty of someone in a vegetated state would have in requesting to be euthanized. Maybe this difficulty could be curbed with a better understanding of neuroscience.
oeruli 10 months ago
I know how i'm gonna die,fuck growing old,if i get cancer or what not..i have a 9mm hollow point bullet with my name on it,so when its that time...I'M OUTTA HERE! :)
ReaperWithFangs 11 months ago
Why is it ok to put my cat down, and not myself? Just plain religious nonsense.
SXJULIE 11 months ago 2
My brother had melanoma. It spread to his lungs and brain. Many surgeries later, new brain tumors started showing up on almost a daily basis. His last week of life was spent in hospital with treatment, including food and fluids, withheld, with the exception of a morphine pump. He would have chosen euthanasia, if it had been available. Euthanasia should not be involuntary, but it should be available to those who want it. If we don't own our own bodies, our lives, we are slaves.
YY4Me133 11 months ago 51
@YY4Me133 Well said.
Minecraft4life1000 5 months ago
I agree. We treat our suffering animals better!
ambygirl1008 11 months ago 16
Bravo... brilliant.
kick08ful 11 months ago 4
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I completely agree.
qwer58j 1 year ago
Luckily in Scotland you can write what's called a "living will", which states that you wish to be helped to die in comfort under certain specified conditions. This is then signed by a lawyer, a witness and a doctor, and it is stated that at the time of writing the document, you are mentally sound. I actually need to get round to writing one of those... I don't want to go the way my grandmother did :(
sacraficialangel7 1 year ago 4
In the Netherlands, it's all too easy for family members to gain power of attorney & then urge physicians to expedite the assisted death of relatives so they will receive their inheritance sooner. Greed often overpowers compassion. The Dutch also permit the euthanasia of children as young as twelve at the request of the child, even if the parents object.
Yes or no to laws permitting assisted suicide is a tough call, but once it's the law, regulations aren't likely to tighten, but to relax.
tripleJ1955 1 year ago
@tripleJ1955 No offence but i'm not going to take your word for that, i'd like a link to a reputable newspaper or source (not The Sun or Fox News) that confirms what you're saying. I think there probably is abuse, but i don't think it's very common. And i agree that teenagers should be able to end their own lives against the objections of the parents, if the parents are keeping a suffering teenager alive against his/her wishes that's child abuse.