Great game! I remember my battle with Si Ma Yi a lot harder and longer than that. Then again, i was a teenager back in the 90s and this was my first time playing this game. Nice job by the way!!
About the Wan Fu, it was a matter luck, as well as for An Sha. However, using Zhuge Liang to behead Chang Yu was easier sinceZhuge Liang has got more chances with the highest Intelligence points (255). Also, to get the others beheaded, using Zhao Yun, who is very intelligent too, was pretty easy, since those enemies had almost no intelligence at all. The only challenge in that fight was to avoid the Wan Fu by pressing the confirm button (A) at a time where it would change Si Ma Yi's attacks! ;)
I'd also noticed that pressing (A) might have had some effect on enemies' attacks, your luck with Tactics, etc., but for a while, Si Ma Yi would get really old by using Wan Fu constantly. It got so bad to the point where if I was playing around, he'd beat me All-Out 5 to 1. Tell me that's not bad. Heh. And my party is the same as yours, except using Huang Zhong in place of Zhuge Liang. I rely much on physical strength, for Tactics never do me much good, it seems.
My Tactician is usually Zhuge Liang, but at times I'll switch to Jiang Wei for a bit of variety. An Sha is fun, but I also like to pull out Bei Ji and kick some numbers out of some people. It's fun combined with some Power Pills. I don't like An Sha for boss battles, as it rarely ever works for me, so I just toughen up with Bei Ji to ensure I do some damage.
I know that INT affects the Strategist Top usable amount of Tactic Points (TP). It also increases his chances of success with his magic as well as his chances of blocking magic as well! ;)
Chi Tu Ma is hidden on the ground around the spot I walk on at 29-30 seconds in the video. Use the Check command to find it. It is 6 or 7 steps west from the little fortress. ;)
Darn, I never even got to finish this game.... when I was 10, I had the game, nearly finished... but the DAMN datterie inside the cartrige ran of... and I lost my game... It's funny when you think that at that age, I actually cried!! And conciering I'm french canadian, and I got throug a game like this IN ENGLISH, I'm proud of my self! Nintendo is why I speak english now!! THANK YOU NINTENDO!!! :P
yeah, that was pretty good. I'm really surprised he never bothered to use Wan Fu though to heal up. I always just ended up using Ce Mian instead of An Sha to beat them down so I could keep Zhu Ge as the tactian hehe. Freaking awesome game though!
Some people told me about giving it to the leader of the party. However, I didn't really see something special about it. I just got it to make it look good. Personally, it is an item we cannot drop and uses a precious space in my items list, so, I don't rely on it! ;)
chi tu ma, if that's what ur talking about lol makes the character holding it, hit first. it's good in a battle where you need the first hit in :P i use the ce mian ability cause i find that instead of chancing si ma yi wan fu'ing himself, or cheng yu an sha'ing u, is too much XD i lost the 2nd battle with only si ma yi left, cause he kept wan fu'ing at 20k XD i find with ce mian you have a better chance of living to celebrate. but that's just me ;D
That's what I used to think before I use the An Sha strategy. Using it, I can tell you that I cannot remember the last time I got owned by the last Si Ma Yi fight! We always have to remember that the last time we hit the "A" button just before the action begins again, it can change enemy's reaction and actions. It increases our chances against him! ;)
2 months ago, i saw this vid =P i learned about the A button and that. and im still amazed at your luck. i tried the an sha strategy, but i have crap luck. si ma yi wan fu'd at 15k men every time i got him there =/ meh, i guess im better with ce mian! btw, whats your max tp by the time you finish?
Sure, the Ce Mian Strategy is pretty good too. However, one of the reasons why I chose to do it with An Sha is because I didn't see anyone do it on YouTube until then... And, I prefer this strategy! It is much faster when we know how to do it. I remember, in the old times, trying to use the Ce Mian strategy, and this tactic didn't last for long very often. So, I just cancelled it in my mind. One of my brothers prefers the Ce Mian one. However, I am still convinced An Sha is better. Max TP 150 ;)
This is my favorite game of all time, I cant find where to get DoaE 2 though, I use Zhu ge as my tact because its more of a challenge for me. But good job, Ive never been able to kill Sima that fast
I used to get enough HP that eventually Zhao Yun eclipsed the rest of my party. I then went in with him equipped with the Halberd.. the rest of the guys had the iron ore swords. I'm actually listening to the soundtrack right now while playing another game. :) Zhao Yu was a bad ass in that game too, even though you never get him.. same with Pang De.
I remember this game ^_^ the beginning is so annoying, would you Suggest getting Zhang Bao as i've heard you can miss him and pick someone esle up instead
How to win: I beat the game at level 39, the lowest level possible. Zhuge Liang should be your tactician. Jiang Wei gets Chi Tu Ma (so he usually goes first.) Bei Ji everyone first round. Power Pill Si Ma Yi to death, Ce Mian when he's at about 15000 with Jiang Liang. If Ma Chao or Zhao Yun have the Halberd they'll be hitting for over 6000. Then kill Cheng Yu basically the same way. If at this point you need to heal have everyone cast Jin Xian. All Out against the 3 meatheads for the win.
However, I just started my last game because of the other video I saw about Si Ma Yi. The shorter the fight, the better it is. Sure, he could have used Wan Fu, but I could have won the fight in just a little more time, but I was blessed from the gods to do it as fast as it was done! ;)
Then, you may just lack of luck, because I almost always win against Si Ma Yi! The fact is that when you hit the "A" button to accept your last command, depending on when you hit it, it changes opponent's actions. It works with lots of RPGs... ;) And I was lucky enough to hit at the right time when he was 5000 soldiers... I don't worry about Wan Fu when he has 15000 soldiers left, except if he already used it in the battle... ;)
omfg lol i always win against si ma yi... but SHIT if i knew that the timing of the last command would influence the opponent's actions, then i would have finished the game so fast everyone's head would spin lmao
Don't worry my friend! I can tell you how I did it! The trick is to battle only the bosses until you get Zhuge Liang. It will allow you to get more levels where you will receive tactic points. Only at levels 12 and 20 did I not receive any tp instead of the 5 tp I get for each other level until level 31 in which Zhuge Liang learns his last magic spell. I guess you know the level 51 trick as well! ;)
For the final battle against Zhang Jao, you can use Han Zhong to get an easier fight, (attack from the cave) and it won't stop you from getting the top amount of tactical points! ;)
oops, replied to the wrong one lmao yea, i found out about getting that bridge built up and having only to fight the brothers instead of having zheng mao and cheng yuanzhi. though i try to make it as hard as possible on myself. i took the front entrance to that castle (where you fight the 5 guys at the same time) at lvl 5 lmao but one time, i couldn't make it easy on myself cause the game glitched and i started it with qing long lol
i thought i had heard something about getting 160 mtp by getting zhu ge as fast as possible. never hought of doing anything about it, cause 123 is as much as i need. tho the lvl i get there ppl say is insane (bao only has 15000 men max) so men is never really an option. but id love to see myself with 160 mtp and have so many left over, i could do the battle with his sons and him one after another :P
May be I got the 160 tp in one of my previous games, but I really don't remember. Anyway, with 150 tp, and with my An sha strategy, I could have done the last two fights without using Gui Huan to return safely... ;)
lol with the 150 tp (which i never got, i only got 127 lol) i could probably do both fights one after another. btw, does the an sha work on si ma yi's sons? never thought of that
holy shit lol you were so lucky cheng yu didn't an sha you. nor did si ma yi wan fu when he was at 15000 like what he does wit me. ce mian prevents them from doing so lol but good vid neway. so ur just real lucky lol
The fact is that Ce Mian is often worn off, and when we try to use the strategy going with it, the fight lasts longer and we must as well rely on luck... ;) Yes I was lucky, but who doesn't against Si Ma Yi when he defeats him?
lol yea. i use the Ce Mian cause it puts luck away. though you do need a very large store of tactical points if your ce mian wears off every turn. btw, how many tp did zhu ge liang have at this point? and yea. there's the fact that si ma yi is a fast son of a bitch, and might hit with a ji mian, where it lasts for turns on end lol
Jiang Wei had 131 tp and Zhuge Liang had 149. (Total tp=150) Since I know how to fight Si Ma Yi with An Sha, I prefer it because it is much quicker as a fight!
Using Ce Mian doesn't put luck away. When it wears off, Si Ma Yi can still use Wan Fu, Ji Mian, etc. Cheng Yu can use An Sha too. There is another video featuring the last fight for this game. The player uses Ce Mian and at the very end, he does an all-out attack against the last generals and it gave Cheng Yu chances to cast An Sha! The guy was in lack of tactical points, and he was more lucky than me dude!
for one, HOLY SHIT! how did you manage to get to 149 tp??? i can only get up to 130 lmao and jiang wei has 113 lmfao An sha works if you have the right setting. as for yours, it was pretty good. cause you put jiang wei as ur tactician, and put zhu ge in your party for the spells. it was smart, cause if zhu ge is ur enemy, i pretty much think he's a certifiable nightmare lol
yea, that's true. and i made a comment on that vid, and i say exactly how i do it. if you read it, i use ce mian, and i finish the battle in about 4 minutes lol but i guess i shold go with the saying: if it's not broke, don't fix it :P
It's actually Sima Yi
Minigun101 3 months ago
I also smoke pot to keep my enemies away
hmmsmellslikefish 7 months ago
a game about smoking pot? they really don't make 'em like they used to..
avnertishby 7 months ago
I always used zhu ge liang as my tacticican, and jiang wei in battle, jiang wei was so powerful, unreal strength and intelligence
nipsta3 11 months ago
Yeah I used Jiang Wei too. I remember I got lucky and did An Sha on Si Ma Yi lmao.
sabernet09 11 months ago
@sabernet09 LOL I tried it a lot on Si Ma Yi too, but could never get it to work though. ;)
HalDanGhor 11 months ago
This game has the greatest music of ANY Nintendo game
Bshelton18 1 year ago 3
Wei Xu died at Guan Du, how is he still alive
hadoukenfighter 1 year ago
@hadoukenfighter May be he had a clone of himself? :P
HalDanGhor 1 year ago
@HalDanGhor considering i swear that china has a cloning factory i wouldn't be suprised if that was the case
hadoukenfighter 1 year ago
@hadoukenfighter Ha! Ha! Ha! XD
HalDanGhor 1 year ago
Zhu Ge Liang was so badass. Good luck landing any spell on him!
Macbrother 2 years ago
Great game! I remember my battle with Si Ma Yi a lot harder and longer than that. Then again, i was a teenager back in the 90s and this was my first time playing this game. Nice job by the way!!
Thujone21 2 years ago
long live the greatest role playing series ever!!!!!!!!! i love you zhao yun and jiang wei!!!! check out doae2 its also amazing
nipsta3 2 years ago
Odd he never once uses Wan Fu, and the success rate of An Sha was off the scale...
Samuraie4 2 years ago
About the Wan Fu, it was a matter luck, as well as for An Sha. However, using Zhuge Liang to behead Chang Yu was easier sinceZhuge Liang has got more chances with the highest Intelligence points (255). Also, to get the others beheaded, using Zhao Yun, who is very intelligent too, was pretty easy, since those enemies had almost no intelligence at all. The only challenge in that fight was to avoid the Wan Fu by pressing the confirm button (A) at a time where it would change Si Ma Yi's attacks! ;)
HalDanGhor 2 years ago
I'd also noticed that pressing (A) might have had some effect on enemies' attacks, your luck with Tactics, etc., but for a while, Si Ma Yi would get really old by using Wan Fu constantly. It got so bad to the point where if I was playing around, he'd beat me All-Out 5 to 1. Tell me that's not bad. Heh. And my party is the same as yours, except using Huang Zhong in place of Zhuge Liang. I rely much on physical strength, for Tactics never do me much good, it seems.
Samuraie4 2 years ago
Hmmm... About your party, I cannot tell until I know who is your Tactician. Is it Zhuge Liang or Jiang Wei? ;)
HalDanGhor 2 years ago
My Tactician is usually Zhuge Liang, but at times I'll switch to Jiang Wei for a bit of variety. An Sha is fun, but I also like to pull out Bei Ji and kick some numbers out of some people. It's fun combined with some Power Pills. I don't like An Sha for boss battles, as it rarely ever works for me, so I just toughen up with Bei Ji to ensure I do some damage.
Samuraie4 2 years ago
LMFAO fuck yeah all I do is smoke pot so I get this reference
GBPackersfan 2 years ago 2
does in battle character's INT affects the tactics of the strategist?
pervfighter 2 years ago
I know that INT affects the Strategist Top usable amount of Tactic Points (TP). It also increases his chances of success with his magic as well as his chances of blocking magic as well! ;)
HalDanGhor 2 years ago
Is "Smoke Pot" Like a Repel...
Shit Best Tactical RPG For It's Time!!!
5/5
HxDragoon 3 years ago
Exactly! The success rate is not 100%, but is better in lower level areas! ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
it has cooler theme/story/design/music/gameplay than dragon warrior, earthbound and final fantasy
pervfighter 3 years ago
Totally agree! :)))
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
Zhao Yun is easily the most bad-ass character in the game, with his cool character design and excellent stats.
hayabusakun 3 years ago
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Eliwood256 3 years ago
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Eliwood256 3 years ago
I used to love that command... "smoke pot"
mikedubya 3 years ago
Can i ask about Chi Tu Ma?
wer i can find that pls help me record the game pls help me .... ?
restyboy5 3 years ago
Chi Tu Ma is hidden on the ground around the spot I walk on at 29-30 seconds in the video. Use the Check command to find it. It is 6 or 7 steps west from the little fortress. ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
Darn, I never even got to finish this game.... when I was 10, I had the game, nearly finished... but the DAMN datterie inside the cartrige ran of... and I lost my game... It's funny when you think that at that age, I actually cried!! And conciering I'm french canadian, and I got throug a game like this IN ENGLISH, I'm proud of my self! Nintendo is why I speak english now!! THANK YOU NINTENDO!!! :P
kinorai 3 years ago
HA! HA! Almost the same for me! French Canadian, and I learned lots of English playing Nintendo games!!! ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
I normally always kill Si Ma Yi first, because if you do, he doesn't heal himself to full no matter how low his hit points. Try it and you'll see.
bypass12345 3 years ago
Sure, but as you saw, I didn't really need to do it! ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
yeah, that was pretty good. I'm really surprised he never bothered to use Wan Fu though to heal up. I always just ended up using Ce Mian instead of An Sha to beat them down so I could keep Zhu Ge as the tactian hehe. Freaking awesome game though!
Cevendust 3 years ago 2
i always push the all-out stuff
mithrill3racer 3 years ago 2
so how do u use chi ta mui's ability?
Lordkeiga 3 years ago
Some people told me about giving it to the leader of the party. However, I didn't really see something special about it. I just got it to make it look good. Personally, it is an item we cannot drop and uses a precious space in my items list, so, I don't rely on it! ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
chi tu ma, if that's what ur talking about lol makes the character holding it, hit first. it's good in a battle where you need the first hit in :P i use the ce mian ability cause i find that instead of chancing si ma yi wan fu'ing himself, or cheng yu an sha'ing u, is too much XD i lost the 2nd battle with only si ma yi left, cause he kept wan fu'ing at 20k XD i find with ce mian you have a better chance of living to celebrate. but that's just me ;D
moondancer33 3 years ago
That's what I used to think before I use the An Sha strategy. Using it, I can tell you that I cannot remember the last time I got owned by the last Si Ma Yi fight! We always have to remember that the last time we hit the "A" button just before the action begins again, it can change enemy's reaction and actions. It increases our chances against him! ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
2 months ago, i saw this vid =P i learned about the A button and that. and im still amazed at your luck. i tried the an sha strategy, but i have crap luck. si ma yi wan fu'd at 15k men every time i got him there =/ meh, i guess im better with ce mian! btw, whats your max tp by the time you finish?
i average 140-150
moondancer33 3 years ago
Sure, the Ce Mian Strategy is pretty good too. However, one of the reasons why I chose to do it with An Sha is because I didn't see anyone do it on YouTube until then... And, I prefer this strategy! It is much faster when we know how to do it. I remember, in the old times, trying to use the Ce Mian strategy, and this tactic didn't last for long very often. So, I just cancelled it in my mind. One of my brothers prefers the Ce Mian one. However, I am still convinced An Sha is better. Max TP 150 ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
This is my favorite game of all time, I cant find where to get DoaE 2 though, I use Zhu ge as my tact because its more of a challenge for me. But good job, Ive never been able to kill Sima that fast
Bshelton18 4 years ago
One of the best RPG's ever.. and it had some of the best music too of the 8-bit days.
T2Runner 4 years ago 2
I totally agree with you! It makes me be extremely nostalgic! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
I used to get enough HP that eventually Zhao Yun eclipsed the rest of my party. I then went in with him equipped with the Halberd.. the rest of the guys had the iron ore swords. I'm actually listening to the soundtrack right now while playing another game. :) Zhao Yu was a bad ass in that game too, even though you never get him.. same with Pang De.
T2Runner 4 years ago
About the one you say we never get, are you talking about Zhou Yu? Zhao Yu doesn't exist. ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
Hehe.. yeah. Typos galore. My apologies. : )
T2Runner 4 years ago
LOL, no need for apologies! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
You ever played the second part?
T2Runner 4 years ago
Yes I did! I loved it too! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
"Smoke Pot"? Subliminal messages?
Goosesteps 4 years ago 2
Ah! Ah! No way! LOLLL ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
I remember this game ^_^ the beginning is so annoying, would you Suggest getting Zhang Bao as i've heard you can miss him and pick someone esle up instead
Slixer 4 years ago
I never heard of this, but I just like this character, because he has so much soldiers at level 51!!! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
oh i just noticed this is the first one not the second
Slixer 4 years ago
Okay, no problem! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
How to win: I beat the game at level 39, the lowest level possible. Zhuge Liang should be your tactician. Jiang Wei gets Chi Tu Ma (so he usually goes first.) Bei Ji everyone first round. Power Pill Si Ma Yi to death, Ce Mian when he's at about 15000 with Jiang Liang. If Ma Chao or Zhao Yun have the Halberd they'll be hitting for over 6000. Then kill Cheng Yu basically the same way. If at this point you need to heal have everyone cast Jin Xian. All Out against the 3 meatheads for the win.
ibanezrick 4 years ago
However, I just started my last game because of the other video I saw about Si Ma Yi. The shorter the fight, the better it is. Sure, he could have used Wan Fu, but I could have won the fight in just a little more time, but I was blessed from the gods to do it as fast as it was done! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
lmao you really needed a blessing cause he didn't use wan fu when he was at 15 thousand. it's either a blessing, or i just lack luck :P
moondancer33 4 years ago
Then, you may just lack of luck, because I almost always win against Si Ma Yi! The fact is that when you hit the "A" button to accept your last command, depending on when you hit it, it changes opponent's actions. It works with lots of RPGs... ;) And I was lucky enough to hit at the right time when he was 5000 soldiers... I don't worry about Wan Fu when he has 15000 soldiers left, except if he already used it in the battle... ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
omfg lol i always win against si ma yi... but SHIT if i knew that the timing of the last command would influence the opponent's actions, then i would have finished the game so fast everyone's head would spin lmao
moondancer33 4 years ago
What is Wan Fu?
Jac2Mac 3 years ago
A startegy (magic) that restores all soldiers for 1 character. ;)
HalDanGhor 3 years ago
Don't worry my friend! I can tell you how I did it! The trick is to battle only the bosses until you get Zhuge Liang. It will allow you to get more levels where you will receive tactic points. Only at levels 12 and 20 did I not receive any tp instead of the 5 tp I get for each other level until level 31 in which Zhuge Liang learns his last magic spell. I guess you know the level 51 trick as well! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
For the final battle against Zhang Jao, you can use Han Zhong to get an easier fight, (attack from the cave) and it won't stop you from getting the top amount of tactical points! ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
oops, replied to the wrong one lmao yea, i found out about getting that bridge built up and having only to fight the brothers instead of having zheng mao and cheng yuanzhi. though i try to make it as hard as possible on myself. i took the front entrance to that castle (where you fight the 5 guys at the same time) at lvl 5 lmao but one time, i couldn't make it easy on myself cause the game glitched and i started it with qing long lol
moondancer33 4 years ago
i thought i had heard something about getting 160 mtp by getting zhu ge as fast as possible. never hought of doing anything about it, cause 123 is as much as i need. tho the lvl i get there ppl say is insane (bao only has 15000 men max) so men is never really an option. but id love to see myself with 160 mtp and have so many left over, i could do the battle with his sons and him one after another :P
moondancer33 4 years ago
May be I got the 160 tp in one of my previous games, but I really don't remember. Anyway, with 150 tp, and with my An sha strategy, I could have done the last two fights without using Gui Huan to return safely... ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
lol with the 150 tp (which i never got, i only got 127 lol) i could probably do both fights one after another. btw, does the an sha work on si ma yi's sons? never thought of that
moondancer33 4 years ago
Yes, An Sha works against both of them, but it never worked against Si Ma Yi... ;)
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
holy shit lol you were so lucky cheng yu didn't an sha you. nor did si ma yi wan fu when he was at 15000 like what he does wit me. ce mian prevents them from doing so lol but good vid neway. so ur just real lucky lol
moondancer33 4 years ago
The fact is that Ce Mian is often worn off, and when we try to use the strategy going with it, the fight lasts longer and we must as well rely on luck... ;) Yes I was lucky, but who doesn't against Si Ma Yi when he defeats him?
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
lol yea. i use the Ce Mian cause it puts luck away. though you do need a very large store of tactical points if your ce mian wears off every turn. btw, how many tp did zhu ge liang have at this point? and yea. there's the fact that si ma yi is a fast son of a bitch, and might hit with a ji mian, where it lasts for turns on end lol
moondancer33 4 years ago
Jiang Wei had 131 tp and Zhuge Liang had 149. (Total tp=150) Since I know how to fight Si Ma Yi with An Sha, I prefer it because it is much quicker as a fight!
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
Using Ce Mian doesn't put luck away. When it wears off, Si Ma Yi can still use Wan Fu, Ji Mian, etc. Cheng Yu can use An Sha too. There is another video featuring the last fight for this game. The player uses Ce Mian and at the very end, he does an all-out attack against the last generals and it gave Cheng Yu chances to cast An Sha! The guy was in lack of tactical points, and he was more lucky than me dude!
HalDanGhor 4 years ago
for one, HOLY SHIT! how did you manage to get to 149 tp??? i can only get up to 130 lmao and jiang wei has 113 lmfao An sha works if you have the right setting. as for yours, it was pretty good. cause you put jiang wei as ur tactician, and put zhu ge in your party for the spells. it was smart, cause if zhu ge is ur enemy, i pretty much think he's a certifiable nightmare lol
moondancer33 4 years ago
yea, that's true. and i made a comment on that vid, and i say exactly how i do it. if you read it, i use ce mian, and i finish the battle in about 4 minutes lol but i guess i shold go with the saying: if it's not broke, don't fix it :P
moondancer33 4 years ago