Tesla Turbine Spooling up on 20kW Steam.wmv

[woodfirepower]

@walperstyle.........

This system is headed for typical steam power plant, turbine, to make electricity plus heat for house, hot water, hot tub, sauna, swimming pool..... The boiler will make high pressure high Temperature steam for the turbine. After the turbine, the cooler steam than flows into a condenser. Heat of condensation is large, so heats the 1500 gallon reservoir of hot water for other uses. You reclaim that heat, and use it. That's why efficiency can be high.

[woodfirepower]

Heat and electricity.....ultimately. fun for now.

[skillz139]

what is the application?

[woodfirepower]

As for the physics, these are all just simple steam turbines so nothing fancy. They are boundary layer, sometimes called Tesla, turbines. Steam flow drags the rotor pack. The way this is superior is that you can use the "waste heat" to heat your home or business. That's Co-Generation, heat plus power, and when you account for the heat used, the efficiency rises into the 70% to 90% range depending on how well your system works. So, yes, it is in that sense superior to a power plant.

rt

[woodfirepower]

This turbine has around 5 percent efficiency, really low. The boiler kicks out 40kW in steam. So that works out to something like 1kW shaft power for this turbine. The "load" is the fan it's spinning at 20krpm. Yes of course if you load it with a generator, it would slow down, but if you took off the fan it would speed up........you could get about 1kW off this turbine. My new turbine will hopefully break 30 percent efficiency but 20% would be a great start. We'll see in spring,

rt

[woodfirepower]

Thanks for the interest. I have more work to do prior to any sales can begin. The turbines need to run more efficiently. keep watching and with luck I'll have something by summertime.

rt

[solaninshadows]

interested im in the uk send me a message

[walperstyle]

Please provide the physics of how this product is superior to the steam turbines or hydroelectric turbines that already exist. By the way, what kind of power output is needed for the steam/air/water ...when this 'turbine' is under load, its going to be harder to turn, thus you will most likely fall on your face and realize just how in-efficient it really is.

[woodfirepower]

@walperstyle This particular turbine is NOT superior to other turbines. To the contrary, it's far lower efficiency. Something around 5 percent thermal vs 40 to 60 percent thermal for a good power plant. The turbine I am developing, see New Turbine videos, will hopefully be far better than this one, though most likely it will fall short of power plant class turbines. The difference, however, is that with a personal turbine in Northern climates, you can use the heat, 80+%

rt

[walperstyle]

@woodfirepower Explain what you mean by "The difference, however, is that with a personal turbine in Northern climates, you can use the heat, 80+%".

I use to work a lot with boilers. You need a heavy fuel source to make steam. When you have steam circulating, you can gain a little energy back, as long as you are venting the steam to air. Otherwise its dead-ended, not doing anything, and your lines will freeze.

[npsit1]

It seems like it's letting out a lot of steam. Could you combine several of the turbines to get more rotation force for the generator?

[Yonkage]

Okay, now stick your finger in there :D

[Chronox5]

wow, the sound of that thing is amazing

[oPickful]

That's fast, but 20KW???

[ozzirt]

@oPickful Maybe 1KW would be nearer. It's just spinning under no load.

[woodfirepower]

@ozzirt Actually, the fan IS the load. It's blowing air around and burning up around 1kW by best SWAG..........scientific wild ass guess........... Anyway, remove the fan, speed would go up, install generator, speed would come back down. Peak power would result at a bit lower rpm and genset would lower it to that level if operated properly.

rt

[digitalrealms]

you may consider a rankine cycle :)

[woodfirepower]

@digitalrealms

This *is* a Rankine cycle machine. Rankine is a steam cycle engine. Brayton is a gas turbine. I'm developing both out of this new turbine geometry.

[digitalrealms]

@woodfirepower BUT I NEVER SEEN A CONDENSER PUMP AND HEATER? PARDON ME IF I AM WRONG SIR..

[digitalrealms]

@digitalrealms I MEAN REHEATER NOT HEATER

[woodfirepower]

@digitalrealms ................Not sure how we're off track here (I am a Mechanical Engineer btw).....The system when completed will have a high pressure water pump that takes hot water from the hot water 2000 gallon reservoir, and pumps it up to several hundred psi. Then, that already hot water flows through the boiler and is heated to superheat, heads through supersonic nozzle, rotor, expands as steam, then condenses to liquid, water reservoir, back to pump. Hope this is more clear. rt

[ahut10]

i am also interested in one running in the kw range.

please keep me in the loop with how your doing.

[ZoomBoomBang1]

Sound like at lest 3hp what's do you think it making I hear tesla was 100hp motors that size what a great man. Wish I had those secrets he had

[woodfirepower]

........******you will, soon ;-) ***** I'm close to getting in my new turbines with more power so they can run automotive alternators in the kW power range. I tried to run a PM alternator with this little turbine but it doesn't have enough torque. So meantime I've been running nozzle tests getting ready for the new turbines arrival. In a week or so I ought to be able to start testing and soon after, loading them with alternators.

[MrSokitumi0007]

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[PrestoWind]

I would love to see you start to load your turbines. I really want to see what kind of power you are able to make.