Philadelphia's population grew between 2000 and 2010, so now it's time to propose widening the highway, and if the bitches in the U.S. Department of Transportation balk, then remind them that it's (still) the fifth-largest city in the United States, and growing again, which means that its infrastructure needs enhanced. Besides, if Boston can get all the money they did for the "Big Dig," then Philadelphia, a larger city, ought to get enough to widen the Schuylkill Expressway, regardless of cost.
@awz121 Not that simple to widen it, it sits between the cliff and the river, plus the exits and city streets that feed 76 are perpetually jammed, they'd have to remove entire mountains and entire city blocks to widen it, and spend 10 billion, double-decking the road do accomplish this. The road was not built to interstate standards and was antiquated from the start, too late to change it. Perhaps we should take a second look on how much we drive and the choices we make.
@yesec9 also i avoid this road as much as possible (the few times a year i actually have to venture down toward center city). I would rather take the extra 10 minutes and take 95 to 476. also if septa ran their trains further out more often like NJ transit i would have no problem with that.
There's a reason why it reminds you of Pittsburgh. PennDot sucks! I mean seriously the roads around Pittsburgh and Philly are in bad need of being updated! Most of the main highways going into both cities are only two lanes-three at best! Thats crazy when your talking about metro areas that both have populations above 2 million!
@bigefresh2 That's what I was thinking! Philadelphia, one of the biggest cities on the East Coast has a highway system like this?! The city should be embarrassed and also they better have a pretty damn fine public transit. I live around Buffalo, NY and we have much better roads than this and our population is much lower than Philly.
Its mostly I-76 thats in bad condition, most of the other freeways like 96 and 476 are alot wider, but 76 (from Chester County to around the beginning of Philly is very narrow) is the wost
@FinlaythePug The regional rail system (SEPTA) is pretty heavily used, well over 100,000+ ride daily, there is no way whatsoever this city would survive without it...and there is no way they are going to expand 76, i'm telling you, between that section next to the river next to 30th street station, and the part along the cliff from city ave to KOP...yep it would require upwards of $10 billion to modernize the highway...and the traffic would instantly double overnight
Does anyone else find it ironic that Interstate 76 goes through Philadlephia (76 and 1776?) The federal highway administration must be more clever than I thought.
And I thought the BQE and FDR Drive were bad enough! I'd actually get a few gray hairs driving *this* thing. Thanks for the videos, Freewayjim. Keep them coming!
thats why the older Notheastern cities need to build up and better fund mass transit, the is no room to expand and plus the NIMBY situation holds up any growth here.
Yep, i travel along these routes to get my drugs in north philadelphia. It does suck when there's traffic from bumper to bumper and its in and out with the clutch but you learn to live with it.
Philadelphia needed a Robert Moses kind of guy to create some better expressways. I've read various plans popped up in the 70's to widen the Schuylkill to 8 lanes, but never came into fruition.
we went to philadelphia once and we accidentally took the wrong exit and ended up in camden.......that was a nightmare. we quickly turned back and find any bridge going back across the river.
New Jersey should of suck it up and build I-95. 206 is congested at times because of those idiots who didn't want I-95. Gee...maybe if trucks and alt way had alt way there wouldn't be so much traffic in those towns in the first place.
As for the 276/95 interchange..ahem...that will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be built. I has been proposed sicne I was 10 (I am now 35) and they still fight about it and push it back. When I actually see construction I'll believe it....dont hold your breath.
Mazda....it isnt signed on the turnpike for the same reason I-95 was removed from the NJ Turnpike in the 60s....Philadelphia lobbied to have the main interstate run through the city rather than around (if you look at old 1950s maps the NJTP is I-95 the length while the road that is now I-95 is listed as an x95.....I forget what the first number is sorry lol
When WMMR had John DeBella as their morning show guru, he called this atrocity of a road the Zookill. Simply because it was a zoo to drive on, people got killed there often (and because the station's morning program was called the Morning Zoo back then).
Jim, you're rockin' these east coast vids to the point where I need to go back just to drive. Yoos killin' me ova here!
DCK55, thats what i thought. looking at google maps, i see I-76 exits off the Turnpike, and at the east end (I-276/I-95 interchange reconstruction- where I-95 will take over the rest of the I-276 route east to NJ Turnpike, I dont see why I-76 isnt route on Turnpike to end at I-95.. it would make sense.
Not a bad idea considerring I-76 ends unceremoniously officially at I-295 in NJ but in reality isnt signed in NJ at all once you cross the W Whitman Br the road is signed SOUTH 295/NJ42 Atlantic City. Then again I-276 ends in the middle of the DE River as officially 276 ends at the PA/NJ state line
My question is- why dont they relocate I-76 to where I-276 is? that part of interstate is a little better- with 6 lanes.. and put I-276 back to where I-76 is. I dont understand.
been there, done that, wore the T-shirt, have the DNA *LOL* I want to know why you were able to keep mobile! Spent a lot of time just sitting...and we are only on that twice a year!
LOL there is no willingness Jim, at least around here. In my home area the local communities take paved roads and rubble them back to dirt and gravel to discourage thru traffic. How does that grab you?
US 202 our main suburban beltway so to speak (the closest thing we have to a beltway here) is 45 miles of at-grade two lane road and 16 miles of substandard expressway with no deisre to improve it.
@Freewayjim U.S. 202 is being worked on in Chester and Montgomery Counties as we speak. They're widening it to six lanes between U.S. 30 and the Schuylkill Expressway, and it will be built to current Interstate standards too. They're also doing a design study for widening U.S. 202 between West Chester and U.S. 30, as well as through the remainder of Montgomery County, although that's a longer-term plan.
But logistically how do you build a second deck with traffic zooming underneath....the road cannot be closed during the construction.
Back in the 60s ans 70s there was a proposed I-876 that would have ran parallel to 76 but on the opposite side of the river but it got nixed due to local opposition. Just an FYI metro Philadelphians fight every road tooth and nail which is why we have so many ghost highways and stub expressways (63, 202, NJ/PA 90, I-95 in NJ. Heck it took 40 yrs to build476
As a native Philadelphian the road is a major joke I live in the western suburbs most of use get off 76 EAST go 476 SOUTH to 95 NORTH to downtown, despite being miles out of the way it ends up being quicker as on weekends 76 can be backed-up 20 miles (from 676 all the way to 276) and be a 1-2 hour delay.
It cannot be widened even in the suburbs because on one side is the Schuylkill River the other sdie is a huge mountainside. Talks have been going on about double-decking the road the length
You know a freeway sucks when it's a primary interstate, minutes from a major urban center and has only 4 lanes. PA has some of the (if not THE) worst interstates in the nation. Narrow lanes, some places have no shoulders and horrible curves not to mention a complimentary side of heavy semi truck traffic. Add all that up and I'm not going to be liking life driving those stretches.
That's exactly the problem PennDOT faces in both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. After the Pennsylvania Turnpike opened in 1940, the state decided to build highways in the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh areas. The problem is, they were designed, engineered and built prior to the implementation of the Interstate Highway System in 1956. As a result, not only were the roads built to lesser standards, but there was no right of way buffer either. Sometimes it doesn't pay to be a pioneer, I guess. *lol*
On the Parkway East in Pittsburgh, there's an on-ramp with no acceleration lane and a stop sign at the end of it. It terraces down the side of a hill, and dumps people into an 'exit only' lane that ends in another 1,000 feet. Basically, cars have to stop, and then floor the accelerator in order to successfully execute a double-lane change. It's the most poorly-designed interchange I've ever seen. The on-ramp needs to go, or at least be moved farther down the highway, away from the interchange.
@DBR96A That wouldn't happen to be the entrance ramp right before the Squirrel Hill Tunnel would it? Yeah, that sucks. I live near Philly now and am amazed how much traffic makes it through the lackluster roads here.
By the way, aside from the one stupid on-ramp I just mentioned, PennDOT has lengthened the acceleration and deceleration lanes on most exits on the Parkway East. They've done this in preparation for having I-376 extended to Mercer County.
By the way, the affected highways in Pennsylvania are...
- The Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) in Philadelphia between the PA Turnpike and the New Jersey State line
- The Penn-Lincoln Parkways East and West (I-376) in Pittsburgh between I-79 and the PA Turnpike
- I-70 between the West Virginia state line and the PA Turnpike
Until the right-of-way problems are solved, any improvements to those highways can only be incremental. At least PennDOT highways built since 1970 are well-engineered.
Looks like the WMG Gestapo nailed your vid! PennDOT can't build or update highways on either side of the state...guess I am not going to curse the Parkway West anymore! Great vids...keep 'em comin' FIVE STARS!
Oh, my, yes. I'm very familiar with the Pittsburgh area (I daresay I've explored more of it than any actual Pittsburgher has), and believe me when I say the Parkway West may be rough in spots, but it comes nowhere near the sheer horror of the Surekill Distressway. Or my own dreaded Cross-Bronx Expressway.
...Well, PA-28 comes close. Now THAT thing... AGH!
And it looks like WMG does not understand how the 1976 Fair Use Copyright Act works. Cute.
Oh, PA 28 does have an explanation toward downtown Pittsburgh: the right-of-way is wedged between a giant cliff and a railroad. The good news is, PennDOT has negotiated a deal with Norfolk Southern to relocate the train tracks in order to widen the missing link between downtown Pittsburgh and the North Hills.
@q102josh I filmed it on a Saturday, around mid afternoon.
Freewayjim 3 months ago
the traffic is bad
americanidol434 3 months ago
Boy the traffic is bad
interstateruler 3 months ago
Great song for a great clip. Love the Philly Soul sound from the early 1970s
efrem1 3 months ago
@efrem1 Thanks, me too!
Freewayjim 3 months ago
I remember my parents drove me into Philly when we visited Temple U. what a mess...
daf867 4 months ago
YEAH.
crowamonghens 4 months ago
2:07 is that the bridge from the first Rocky
Xeivous 5 months ago
Philadelphia's population grew between 2000 and 2010, so now it's time to propose widening the highway, and if the bitches in the U.S. Department of Transportation balk, then remind them that it's (still) the fifth-largest city in the United States, and growing again, which means that its infrastructure needs enhanced. Besides, if Boston can get all the money they did for the "Big Dig," then Philadelphia, a larger city, ought to get enough to widen the Schuylkill Expressway, regardless of cost.
DBR96A 6 months ago
Philadelphia rated #2 DIRTIEST CITY IN America by Travel and Leisure's Readership (for litter, air and taste of tap water)
Shame on Philly! An ugly national disgrace; enemy of Planet Earth
steve7138 8 months ago
toll it and widen it...plain and simple. unless we find some other way of fixing roads here in PA tolls are going to be the way to go.
awz121 9 months ago
@awz121 Not that simple to widen it, it sits between the cliff and the river, plus the exits and city streets that feed 76 are perpetually jammed, they'd have to remove entire mountains and entire city blocks to widen it, and spend 10 billion, double-decking the road do accomplish this. The road was not built to interstate standards and was antiquated from the start, too late to change it. Perhaps we should take a second look on how much we drive and the choices we make.
Take the train.
yesec9 6 months ago
@yesec9 if penndot could widen US 22 through the Lewistown Narrows they could widen this.
awz121 5 months ago
@yesec9 also i avoid this road as much as possible (the few times a year i actually have to venture down toward center city). I would rather take the extra 10 minutes and take 95 to 476. also if septa ran their trains further out more often like NJ transit i would have no problem with that.
awz121 3 months ago
Wow! This reminds me of Pittsburgh! What a nerve racking drive! I can only imagine what would happen if you broke down on there.
FinlaythePug 11 months ago
@FinlaythePug
There's a reason why it reminds you of Pittsburgh. PennDot sucks! I mean seriously the roads around Pittsburgh and Philly are in bad need of being updated! Most of the main highways going into both cities are only two lanes-three at best! Thats crazy when your talking about metro areas that both have populations above 2 million!
bigefresh2 11 months ago
@bigefresh2 That's what I was thinking! Philadelphia, one of the biggest cities on the East Coast has a highway system like this?! The city should be embarrassed and also they better have a pretty damn fine public transit. I live around Buffalo, NY and we have much better roads than this and our population is much lower than Philly.
FinlaythePug 11 months ago
@FinlaythePug
Its mostly I-76 thats in bad condition, most of the other freeways like 96 and 476 are alot wider, but 76 (from Chester County to around the beginning of Philly is very narrow) is the wost
Xeivous 10 months ago
@FinlaythePug The regional rail system (SEPTA) is pretty heavily used, well over 100,000+ ride daily, there is no way whatsoever this city would survive without it...and there is no way they are going to expand 76, i'm telling you, between that section next to the river next to 30th street station, and the part along the cliff from city ave to KOP...yep it would require upwards of $10 billion to modernize the highway...and the traffic would instantly double overnight
Take the train.
yesec9 6 months ago
@bigefresh2
95 in Philly is actually really wide, same with 476, but 76 is terrible
Xeivous 10 months ago
that highway looks very dangerous. would any philly locals agree?
Fanik8 1 year ago
@Fanik8
well you go through alot of hills, so its really narrow for the most part
Xeivous 10 months ago
@Fanik8 Hell yeah, drive it everyday, my uncle has had multiple accidents on this road.
Mustang5Speed 8 months ago
1:45 ... freeway jim i've been to philadelphia and south NJ twice ... it's more the drivers than the roads. (and i'm from boston saying this)
eric829 1 year ago
Does anyone else find it ironic that Interstate 76 goes through Philadlephia (76 and 1776?) The federal highway administration must be more clever than I thought.
js30blackhawks2010 1 year ago
Also US-1 South of the Schuylkill to the DelCo line is also referred to as "City Line Avenue" since runs along the Philadelphia City Limits...
dea41396returns 1 year ago
@dea41396returns yes instead if city avenue we call it it city line avenue.
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dea41396returns 1 year ago
man philly rocks!the city of brotherly love reigns supreme!
interstate84man 1 year ago
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perkiomenville 1 year ago
And I thought the BQE and FDR Drive were bad enough! I'd actually get a few gray hairs driving *this* thing. Thanks for the videos, Freewayjim. Keep them coming!
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Tribeca40 1 year ago
Heh you filmed this on my birthday! Cool vid!
signalkid1 1 year ago
i cursed em 4 times a night!! drove 18 wheeler thru philly both ways twice a night out of allentown. atually enjoyed it.
mdl80271 1 year ago
Hey Freewayjim did you try Lincoln drive?
bluemoon95 1 year ago
@bluemoon95 -No, I was not in the area very long.
Freewayjim 1 year ago
3:12 look cosely and you will see Dorney Park sign! it's all the way in Allentown XD
Noooo245 1 year ago
in january there was a car chase on this road and becuse it was on this highway the cops were slow and it was rush hour
Noooo245 1 year ago
Yea.....I definately prefer you driving this freeway as opposed to me. That looks like you're being suffocated, especially at 3:08-3:21
mariusbleek 1 year ago
thats why the older Notheastern cities need to build up and better fund mass transit, the is no room to expand and plus the NIMBY situation holds up any growth here.
hertznow 1 year ago
I like my crowded over congested "Sure Kill", who needs those over expansive highways that bring overwhelming growth to the area...
hertznow 1 year ago
Wow, I'm glad I drive my car here in the South, looks like you can get a few benders on those narrow highways.
BabyBang17datruth 1 year ago
about 5 months later ther was a police chase on the same highway
Noooo245 1 year ago
Yep, i travel along these routes to get my drugs in north philadelphia. It does suck when there's traffic from bumper to bumper and its in and out with the clutch but you learn to live with it.
suckuhhballbag420 2 years ago
@suckuhhballbag420 LOL!!!!!
bluemoon95 1 year ago
This video/song combination feels like I'm watching "Soul Train" with Don Cornelius. Great work!
lakebay972 2 years ago
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Freewayjim 2 years ago
Memories...
abrown17 2 years ago
Nice video.
What a horrible antiquated road !! Yikes !!!
YTfancol 2 years ago
I just checked, that 4-lane part viaduct in south Philadelphia has a 2007 AADT of 118,000. That's extremely much for a substandard 4-lane expressway.
aswchris 2 years ago
Philadelphia needed a Robert Moses kind of guy to create some better expressways. I've read various plans popped up in the 70's to widen the Schuylkill to 8 lanes, but never came into fruition.
aswchris 2 years ago
we went to philadelphia once and we accidentally took the wrong exit and ended up in camden.......that was a nightmare. we quickly turned back and find any bridge going back across the river.
mokechi27 2 years ago
I went to the Philadelphia Zoo before since we have been still living in Marlton, NJ.
FSXTheGreat 2 years ago
New Jersey should of suck it up and build I-95. 206 is congested at times because of those idiots who didn't want I-95. Gee...maybe if trucks and alt way had alt way there wouldn't be so much traffic in those towns in the first place.
Souhmm 2 years ago
As for the 276/95 interchange..ahem...that will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be built. I has been proposed sicne I was 10 (I am now 35) and they still fight about it and push it back. When I actually see construction I'll believe it....dont hold your breath.
DCK55 2 years ago
Mazda....it isnt signed on the turnpike for the same reason I-95 was removed from the NJ Turnpike in the 60s....Philadelphia lobbied to have the main interstate run through the city rather than around (if you look at old 1950s maps the NJTP is I-95 the length while the road that is now I-95 is listed as an x95.....I forget what the first number is sorry lol
DCK55 2 years ago
When WMMR had John DeBella as their morning show guru, he called this atrocity of a road the Zookill. Simply because it was a zoo to drive on, people got killed there often (and because the station's morning program was called the Morning Zoo back then).
Jim, you're rockin' these east coast vids to the point where I need to go back just to drive. Yoos killin' me ova here!
Trekker1801 2 years ago
DCK55, thats what i thought. looking at google maps, i see I-76 exits off the Turnpike, and at the east end (I-276/I-95 interchange reconstruction- where I-95 will take over the rest of the I-276 route east to NJ Turnpike, I dont see why I-76 isnt route on Turnpike to end at I-95.. it would make sense.
MazdaStrider 2 years ago
Not a bad idea considerring I-76 ends unceremoniously officially at I-295 in NJ but in reality isnt signed in NJ at all once you cross the W Whitman Br the road is signed SOUTH 295/NJ42 Atlantic City. Then again I-276 ends in the middle of the DE River as officially 276 ends at the PA/NJ state line
DCK55 2 years ago
My question is- why dont they relocate I-76 to where I-276 is? that part of interstate is a little better- with 6 lanes.. and put I-276 back to where I-76 is. I dont understand.
MazdaStrider 2 years ago
Exit 340A - Lincoln Drive. Wanna talk about a street that belongs in a video game? LOL.
Great video Jim, as always......
BigFella11233 2 years ago
been there, done that, wore the T-shirt, have the DNA *LOL* I want to know why you were able to keep mobile! Spent a lot of time just sitting...and we are only on that twice a year!
maregee 2 years ago
LOL there is no willingness Jim, at least around here. In my home area the local communities take paved roads and rubble them back to dirt and gravel to discourage thru traffic. How does that grab you?
US 202 our main suburban beltway so to speak (the closest thing we have to a beltway here) is 45 miles of at-grade two lane road and 16 miles of substandard expressway with no deisre to improve it.
DCK55 2 years ago
Wow, that's something else.
When business & Jobs leave because mobility is so bad in the area maybe they'll change their mind.
Freewayjim 2 years ago
@Freewayjim U.S. 202 is being worked on in Chester and Montgomery Counties as we speak. They're widening it to six lanes between U.S. 30 and the Schuylkill Expressway, and it will be built to current Interstate standards too. They're also doing a design study for widening U.S. 202 between West Chester and U.S. 30, as well as through the remainder of Montgomery County, although that's a longer-term plan.
DBR96A 6 months ago
Worst freeway in the world.
I recommend building a new 10 lane alignment on I-76 to make it better.
WSAM0TV 2 years ago
lol real tight quarters here. wonder how this one ranks on the most dangerous highways .
awesome vid
great job jim
ScrewdUpClick2000 2 years ago
But logistically how do you build a second deck with traffic zooming underneath....the road cannot be closed during the construction.
Back in the 60s ans 70s there was a proposed I-876 that would have ran parallel to 76 but on the opposite side of the river but it got nixed due to local opposition. Just an FYI metro Philadelphians fight every road tooth and nail which is why we have so many ghost highways and stub expressways (63, 202, NJ/PA 90, I-95 in NJ. Heck it took 40 yrs to build476
DCK55 2 years ago
I recall it also took quite a while to finish I-95 near the airport.
Modern engineering is amazing, it would be interesting to see what alot of money and a willingness to use it could do for I-76.
Freewayjim 2 years ago
As a native Philadelphian the road is a major joke I live in the western suburbs most of use get off 76 EAST go 476 SOUTH to 95 NORTH to downtown, despite being miles out of the way it ends up being quicker as on weekends 76 can be backed-up 20 miles (from 676 all the way to 276) and be a 1-2 hour delay.
It cannot be widened even in the suburbs because on one side is the Schuylkill River the other sdie is a huge mountainside. Talks have been going on about double-decking the road the length
DCK55 2 years ago
SWEET! TSOP...the SOOOOUL TRAIN! Good choice.
gsnman 2 years ago
In camparision with continental europe, this is a normal "autobahn". Narrow and windy.
The Problem for a city in size like Phily is that nearly all commuters have to use cars instead of mass transit. Damn urban sprawl
TaGaMeMNoN1983 2 years ago
You know a freeway sucks when it's a primary interstate, minutes from a major urban center and has only 4 lanes. PA has some of the (if not THE) worst interstates in the nation. Narrow lanes, some places have no shoulders and horrible curves not to mention a complimentary side of heavy semi truck traffic. Add all that up and I'm not going to be liking life driving those stretches.
riolindasucks 2 years ago 2
That road is crazy. Nice vid, man.
Bryant5493 2 years ago
That road makes the Langford Parkway look modern.
Freewayjim 2 years ago
Yeah, it does.
I contacted GDOT about 166, and right-of-way issues limit them to making any modifications to the roadway.
Bryant5493 2 years ago
That's exactly the problem PennDOT faces in both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. After the Pennsylvania Turnpike opened in 1940, the state decided to build highways in the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh areas. The problem is, they were designed, engineered and built prior to the implementation of the Interstate Highway System in 1956. As a result, not only were the roads built to lesser standards, but there was no right of way buffer either. Sometimes it doesn't pay to be a pioneer, I guess. *lol*
DBR96A 2 years ago
Yeah, I've seen clips from Pittsburgh, where there are stop signs at the end of merging ramps. :-(
Bryant5493 2 years ago
On the Parkway East in Pittsburgh, there's an on-ramp with no acceleration lane and a stop sign at the end of it. It terraces down the side of a hill, and dumps people into an 'exit only' lane that ends in another 1,000 feet. Basically, cars have to stop, and then floor the accelerator in order to successfully execute a double-lane change. It's the most poorly-designed interchange I've ever seen. The on-ramp needs to go, or at least be moved farther down the highway, away from the interchange.
DBR96A 2 years ago
Yeah, it's a very dangerous design flaw.
Bryant5493 2 years ago
@DBR96A That wouldn't happen to be the entrance ramp right before the Squirrel Hill Tunnel would it? Yeah, that sucks. I live near Philly now and am amazed how much traffic makes it through the lackluster roads here.
TheDanCam 1 year ago
By the way, aside from the one stupid on-ramp I just mentioned, PennDOT has lengthened the acceleration and deceleration lanes on most exits on the Parkway East. They've done this in preparation for having I-376 extended to Mercer County.
DBR96A 2 years ago
By the way, the affected highways in Pennsylvania are...
- The Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) in Philadelphia between the PA Turnpike and the New Jersey State line
- The Penn-Lincoln Parkways East and West (I-376) in Pittsburgh between I-79 and the PA Turnpike
- I-70 between the West Virginia state line and the PA Turnpike
Until the right-of-way problems are solved, any improvements to those highways can only be incremental. At least PennDOT highways built since 1970 are well-engineered.
DBR96A 2 years ago
i love your i can travel the world sitn at my house grate vids and very helpful!!! i giveum ten stars !!!!!!!!!!
94exporlerboy 2 years ago
Wow that's a pretty substandard freeway... I think that one needs a major overhaul...
aswchris 2 years ago
Looks like the WMG Gestapo nailed your vid! PennDOT can't build or update highways on either side of the state...guess I am not going to curse the Parkway West anymore! Great vids...keep 'em comin' FIVE STARS!
blue06lt 2 years ago
I'm trying to get that fixed :)
Freewayjim 2 years ago
The WMG was removing and muting music videos which annoys me >:(
1petealmquist1 2 years ago
Oh, my, yes. I'm very familiar with the Pittsburgh area (I daresay I've explored more of it than any actual Pittsburgher has), and believe me when I say the Parkway West may be rough in spots, but it comes nowhere near the sheer horror of the Surekill Distressway. Or my own dreaded Cross-Bronx Expressway.
...Well, PA-28 comes close. Now THAT thing... AGH!
And it looks like WMG does not understand how the 1976 Fair Use Copyright Act works. Cute.
DarthFastidious 2 years ago
Nothing could POSSIBLY explain 28, that is just sheer horror whether it's rush hour or not!
blue06lt 2 years ago
Oh, PA 28 does have an explanation toward downtown Pittsburgh: the right-of-way is wedged between a giant cliff and a railroad. The good news is, PennDOT has negotiated a deal with Norfolk Southern to relocate the train tracks in order to widen the missing link between downtown Pittsburgh and the North Hills.
DBR96A 2 years ago