I agree with you. I think the general view society has is that men should just man up and take it. Or no one would believe them and even feel oppressed. I think the numbers would be higher than women statistics if the cases were actually reported. Sadly most cases that happen to men are NOT reported. Thank you for speaking up and speaking out.
2%??? There is alot more men who suffer from Abuse from there partner then women! It's just men are shamed by society, and unbelieved, so it's all hidden numbers. All social experiments show that people will run to the aid of a woman who's being hit by a man..but a man who is publically hit by a woman are laughed at. No aid is given to him. Y? Many people admit they thing the men deserve it when they see a woman hitting them, yet they don't know the truth as to Y a woman is hitting him
Oh my god ! You threw the newspaper away, YOU'RE A VIOLENT MAN, ARGUSEYES !!! You should go through therapy and learn how to deal with your violent male instincts. If all else fails, you should consider castration or even lobotomy. ;) That's what feminized western societies want us to be nowadays: castrated, lobotomized, feminized zombies who are unable to feel anything, let alone anger. Just shut up and take it like a man !
If it was a worldwide estimate then I do believe 1 in 4 women have been the victim of domestic violence. In some countries it is not taboo for men to hit their wives or worse. Supporting battered women should have nothing to do with oppressing battered men, or the other way around. A victim of domestic violence is a victim of domestic violence, whether they are a man or a woman.
men should avoid matrimony by about 150% nowadays to avoid the accusation paradigm being presumed to be guilty of DV say for raising his voice or slamming the door on cupcake - better be holidaying in Majorca than contending a divorce instigated by a new age gal
this guy is telling the truth. i was a batterd husbend and the reason i took it was that she told me no one would beleve me, the sad part is she was right. the laws are totley agenst men she used the law to take my child away. its like being raped and told that you dezerved it. i want to start a mens rights group and i need hellp to do it so come on guys lets get it started.
I don't know how you figure that. It seems to me that relationships today are intensely abusive; couples don't seem to care for each other at all, at least not for long and mothers seem to consider their children as less than human. I mean there's no way you can convince me that a woman who can kill her kid is gonna make a good mother, unless she undergoes a radical, profound and sustained change in her orientation towards children and their value, worth and rights.
Your right! lol I got to say this though, we all went to "therapy" and we've all been "educated" and we've all seen the scary examples of what happens to people who get crushed by our zero tolerance laws. Yet, we still have tons of "Domestic Violence," in fact, it appears to be on the rise. (lol @ the irony)
So, I think we should all "go home" on this one and conclude: couples fight and that's just the way it is or in the simple language of the masses, "shit happens"
My fathers name is Christopher John Morton of Faifax Close, Winchester. He was the most brutal wife beater. He used to plan his attacks on her with meticulous detail and carried them out with precision. She would beg for her life each time. She escaped with her two children, and just the clothes on her back. Remember - men are stronger physically, to hold a womens head and smash it into a wall. He vowed only to hit her where the bruises won't show. She is my hero. Her courage is amazing. xxx
I was inspired by the story of David Pelzer. If you've never heard of him, you should look him up. He's put his life story onto a CD book. I got a copy from the library and was moved by it. I know a lot of men can relate to the story of this little boy who was so terribly abused by his mother and abandoned by his father and brothers.
On the other hand, I don't want to pay the state taxes to play daddy for my people. I mean, they'll put kids through worse than that! You better believe that!
You know we should all ABUSE OUR PERFECT legal system, every body calls the police twice a day, every body goes to court about who is cooking tonight, who cares about the legal system anyway?
In my town, if somebody calls the cops on you, the cops tell you who did it. Now, the whole code is criminalized. So, you spit on the sidewalk and it's a misdemeanor. Hence, everybody is guilty of something that is obvious to their neighbors.
It's better to, mind your own business and be neighborly.
People always say that, but on the other hand, my experience has been that people generally support this crap. When neighbors, spouses, family and friends regularly use these laws against each other; when men refuse to stand up for each other and use this trash against each other, well, the outcome isn't surprising.
Yeah, I saw a recent story about a guy who backed the car over his wife and two year old daughter. They weren't injured. I speculate, that the event went something like this: man and wife in fight; he leaves; she tries to stop him, but fails; in desperation she sits in driveway; she brings child to extort him into stopping. He tries to scare her into moving out of the way.
A sane legal system does nothing and prudent neighbors, mind their own business.
plus I would say your 90% guess actually is the rubbish. Of the people I personally know who made DV calls, all of them were made in an emergency. Plus, a lot of people who have never suffered abuse from a male, find it easy to pretend it doesn't happen..but many women I know, including in my own family have been actually abused (lives threatened and women injured), so people like this guy can kiss my ass and those who think only 10% of DV calls are real.
I don't think men aren't abused and I don't think all women are victims or that all women who claim to be victims are, I'm just saying, this guy is a woman hater. It doesn't matter the stats because there's info on both sides, I'm just talking about this guy and his websites are all anti woman and villainizing those who DO get abused. Anyway, this video means nothing to me anymore, just something annoying I saw while browsing.
What I'm going to say is going to be taken the wrong way by some people:
I'm a guy and I don't condome spousal beating. I do belive that all people should be treated equally however. When I man hits me I'd usually hit him back. When a woman hits me I'd do exactly the same. There should be no double-standard for self-defense.
From your detractors, naught but petulant snivelling and weak wristed ad hominem mudslinging; from your supporters, simple consensus and quiet agreement.
It is my impression that the meaning of the term, "domestic violence" is so broad that, I reckon, every single person on Planet Earth is an "offender." Hermits included!
unfortunatly we live now in a society that accept male abuse and celebrate it ,Case and point , look at the movie ,tv show and sitcom .from the movie Norbit , to sitcom like Rosanne , men are beat .slap ,ridicule .And it is part of the comedy bit part , how do you desensatize an affliction ? Simp;y by making light of it .And Texas Boy, if a women hits you in the nuts,and you hit her back , you are the one going to the slamer and wll have a record of female abuse, how tough does that make you?
Who says that women are the only ones who can be abused? ANYONE can be abused. Do you know how many atrocities I could complain about men doing right now, as we speak? Do you really want to compare? Seriously, bring it! You just want to hear yourself talk. I feel sorry for the person who birthed you, all that effort and pain for this result.
No, if you watch the video you realize he's villainizing women who have been abused...and if you go to a website he's affiliated with...it's a hate site against women who say they have been abused. He's basically sick of feeling like men are the monsters when some men get abused...but in his arguement he puts down the women who are abused as well. He basically has a screw loose. Your conclusion is the dense one my friend.
Agreed Missus. Argus also says on one of his video descriptions that he'd love to hear a feminist reaction. Many feminists have tried and he just tells them they're crazy, thereby ending any possible discussion. He's afraid of FACTS. When you tell him a fact his glasses wobble and he makes more trashy videos.
DianaBoston I have argued with you before, and I can clearly see why he thinks you are deranged. You just go around shouting bullshit, and does not tolerate any opposing arguments. Why did you block me after I refuted your argument?
This coming from someone who has censored even reasonable comments on her own videos. To be honest your own reactions to comments I made to one particular video you made was at best, incredibly irrational. I think it's about time you and others of similar mindset realise that you're misandrists & that equality is about as far away as possible from what you actually strive towards. Take off the rose coloured glasses & actually look at what feminism has become in spite of its wonderful beginnings.
by abuse I mean telling the woman she is worthless, hitting her, throwing her, Threatening those she loves, punching her, claiming she's fat and worthless, etc...I mean, I'm not talking about men wasting our money or withholding sex! You might as well say leaving your towel on the floor is abuse against you. I am not making light of men who are abused, but to ignore the plight of women because you're offended for your sex? How rotten can you be? Oh, I'm sorry, I just abused you didn't I?
"1 in 4 women will experienc domestic violence" is a pretty reasonable statement. My father is abusive, all of my friends' boyfriends are abusive, and my husband is the one man I have experienced who isn't abusive, and let's look at 3rd world coutnries shall we? You going to tell me most of those victims are men? Of course some women are bad to their husbands, but it is not NEARLY as common. And no, withholding sex is not sexual abuse, I don't care what a pamphlet says.
Ok, I don't get why DV is such a big deal. I mean, would it not be easier to focus on teaching people to act more humanely instead of trying to prevent specific acts. Like which is easier, giving someone a good moral compass early on or trying to anticipate every action they may take. I think expanding DV to financial and emotional is crap, and sexual is acceptable only if it actually involves physical violence. So, why don't we focus on teaching people right from wrong and see if that helps.
Your knowledge is limited.Quote "Despite the facts" surely you realise that for a topic such as DV the facts are crucial. Also I think you'll find the laws are limited and don't even define domestic violence. Another correction: Financial abuse is using money to exert control, usually by deprivation. "waste money"? Maybe you should do some reading. Yes men are effected this can not be denied, look at the facts 1 in 6 actually, however women are more at risk 1 in 4.
How about "NOBODY" pays tax so the bitch (legal prostitute) can't judge people for money so she can drink $4.00 cups of coffee at whorebucks with wicked bastards like abortion doctors (legal murderers) in a casual social setting?
And I'll just sit back and tell you why paid Judges of Law will burn in the Lake of Fire for conforming to the beast for a whore's wage.
To any women who have been hurt, once thats a crime. Its when you go back to the bastard that you forfiet your right for sympathy...i was a child that got to watch my mom beaten for five years before she left..things are all taken care of now but i still wake up hearing him beat her and im 31 years old...kill him, leave him..you can do it. as for men beaten by women..thats a fantasy. this vid is redicoulous..figures fkn limey!
I love your accent! :D Okay, now on to the serious topic. I agree with you. Men need protection and attention when they are abused the same as women. Women who abuse men should be subject to the same treatment, laws and punishment that men who abuse are. Thanks for getting this message out there.
yeah i got u good, too bad i cant physically kick u in the bal due to the distance between your nuts and my foot..but u knowing i got u good is good enuff
Bundlehastings, that was a dumb arguement. Add in statistics of men killed by their wives and quit with the feminist 'he' deserved it crap. 2nd, it's 2008. Women have jobs too or should. 3rd, men have kids and should have equal Rights as parents, but don't as proved by your single parent/only parent statement giving the mother the only voice.
UK government statistics show that more than 300 women a year are killed by their husbands. That's nearly one a day. Most men can leave a violent woman, most women cannot, as they often have kids and no income.
Shoots him in the back and again when he is on the ground.
This was found to have been "self-defense" - HOW?!?
She had access to a mobile phone, firearms, vehicles etc... The first thing an abusive partner does is remove access to the outside world and access to weapons, as a method of maintaining control.
She could have gone to any of the womens shelters around the state, had the police serve an AVO kicking him out of the house and take all the weapons away. But she SHOT HIM IN THE BACK!
bundle. Liar Liar! The figure for 05-06 is 84 women and 30 men killed by current or ex partners. Source Home Office Statistical Bulletin. This doesn't include the number of men killed by other men on behalf of current or ex female partners. Twice as many men than women were murdered in that year. View "Pizza Bashing" to see how easily a mangina will attack another guy at the request of a woman.
bundle "Most men can leave a violent woman, most women cannot, as they often have kids and no income." You've summed it up nicely "they often have kids" and those kids will be left behind with the violent woman with nobody to protect them if Dad goes and the courts will back her every time unless she kills one of them perhaps! So many men cannot leave a violent woman. Btw when CS is mentioned they are HIS kids, any other time they are "her" kids lol!
Here are some victims who are not ignored! Recently California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Connecticut Governor M. Jodi Rell, and numerous others took action to protect animals from abusive relationships.
Earlier this year Rell signed a bill to protect pet victims of domestic violence and explained with a straight face, "Pets are too often the silent victims of domestic violence. They cannot fight back, and they are presently afforded no protection under our current legal system."
If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say. If not, then what's in for them? You think they'll even care about a fat guy who can't get a date a bitches like mad when violence against women is much worse?
Getting a date or being attractive has absolutely nothing to do with domenstic violence, but you're obviously too much of a pre-pubescent twat to understand that. It's a common shaming tactic used by radical feminists, i.e. it is completely irrelevant. Go die in a fire.
Anteo "If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say." Even the ugliest of men will find women swooning over him if he has an education or cash in his pocket as you well know. Its women who can't get men to commit remember? Wow! You've arrived!
Ok, then i change it: the man has to get some money because if not, no woman is going to be interested in him. And as he is not handsome, his chances with women decrease. And as you well know, being born pretty is easier that working your butt off to get enough money to have women swooning over you.Good like with that one.
Anteo "If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say." The reason you don't find Argus attractive is because you know you couldn't control him in the same way you could a mangina poodle boy.
So you think that if I could control him, he'd suddenly turn into a hunk ? Don't think so...unless he's a millionare, of course. Don't blame me, though: females look for a resources in a man. That, and good genetic material to pass on your children. That's what traditional marriages are based on.
Anteo "females look for a resources in a man." Exactly. Thats why they marry up, although they don't always divorce down. Here in the UK a woman must be maintained in the "manner to which she has been accustomed" post divorce despite the fact she married up to achieve that standard! This means the man must pay spousal support for a non existent spouse! "Ladies first" as always!
Regarding your complaints...men could marry up to, you know. It's not women's fault they're not doing it. Either that or you demand that women work and make their own money...which is feminism in a nutshell. Of course, if women do that, they'll have to postpone having children or not have them at all. And then, of course, people like you will say it's feminism fault.
Anteo "men could marry up to, you know. It's not women's fault they're not doing it." A heterosexual marriage is teamwork for two people to have kids, where the man brings his earning capacity, the woman her child bearing capacity. If the woman earns more than man. Her stopping work for kids is uneconomical, just as its not worth her marrying down.
Are you willing to accept a women who in order to have succes and money decides not to have children so you won't suffer financial problems during your divorce? Or you basically want a woman who is a child-bearing machine, stays at home and will not say a word if you happen to divorce her and leave her on the street?
Whats needed is fairness ie.50/50. If she brings a lower earning capacity plus child bearing to a marriage in exchange for her man facilitating her lifestyle while she gives him kids. Why should she be able to leave with those kids, house and a large slice of his paycheck should she choose to renege (upto 93%)on an agreement she voluntarily entered into?
Then we should be celebrating and be happy about people marrying less and less,no? If they marry less, then the women don't get the husband's money and if men don't commit, they are less willing to enter a relationship that is economically negative for them. So marriage strike is a good thing, then?
The "large slice of his paycheck" is probably child support and is for the CHILD.
Anteo "So marriage strike is a good thing, then?" No. A marriage strike is not a good thing for the countries concerned because it leads to a falling birthrate. In the UK it is 1.66 kids/woman. Way below replenishment rate of 2.1. This a society that is slowly dieing out!
Tell that to your friends of the "marriage strike", not me. Most of the women you describe as the ones who keep the children, the house and the paycheck are not feminists. On the contrary: they're usually the stay-at-home mums who couldn't develop a career becuase of the children. So the judges, seeing as it is they who take care of the children and have less opportunities in the job market, decide to grant them cusotody and child support.
A good way to change that is that fathers are encorauged to take care of their children as much as mothers do. That way, women could work. Should the couple ever happen to divorce,women will have their own money and judges might see men as competent with their own children.
Anteo "The "large slice of his paycheck" is probably child support and is for the CHILD." You have forgotten spousal support in which a man pays money to a non existent spouse. ie she has withdrawn from whatever she put into the partnership yet he must continue to put in.
Anteo"Then we should be celebrating and be happy about people marrying less and less,no?" No. You and your feminist friends should be happy at your success. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
Although, it is a bit of an irony that you say women are the ones that have trouble getting a man into commit...and then imply that women gain nothing from feminism and should come back to the traditional family. If anything, it looks like it is you who has trouble getting women in general to commit.
Anteo "it looks like it is you who has trouble getting women in general to commit." No man can get women to commit because marriage is now a temporary arrangement due to no fault divorce so its pointless to enter. Feminist states have got round this by giving cohabitees the same rights as married. Afterall women can't get the benefits of divorce without marrying (up) first!
Anteo Marriage has become a temporary arrangement therefore no commitment is entered into. Therefore, no man can get women to truly commit to anything except a temporary arrangement that benefits only women via marriage and divorce. Hence women cannot get men to commit. See "Marriage strike" in Wiki.
You propose a model of marriage that is not beneficial to women (if they divorce, they don't get to keep anything)and expect them to commit. But justify men who don't want to marry. Can't you see that women will have the same aversion to your model just as you say men do now?
Anteo "if they divorce, they don't get to keep anything)and expect them to commit." Where did I say they don't get to keep anything? They should get to keep 50% of assets plus joint custody of kids unless other factors prevent it. No alimony and no CS. Better still why not let Dad keep the house, kids and paycheck leaving her free to pursue her career?
Ohhh yeah! Why don't you just google 'women and domestic violence' and learn more. It's reported that 61% of women are physically/sexully abused in the US alone. In spite of all the laws and other organizations that project women here. It's worse in rest of the world. Please get your facts right. And a small sample of 200k people represents nothing and most of these statisics are confined to a particular place and race (usually)
Sonur. This from Timesonline Nov8/05. Google Microwaveman "Much less fun to examine the 2004 government report which revealed that, yes, 205,000 women were kicked, bitten or punched by a partner — but then, so were 177,000 men. Of 24,000 partners who suffered serious wounding with a weapon, 11,000 were men." Get your facts straight. DV is a human issue.
See women still outnumber men in Dv right. And I am not denying that Dv is a human issue, it definitely is. Because it happens in lesbian and gay relations too. All i said is women are more prone and I am surprised to see people have -ve reactions. And yes there are many wonder lands out there!
Thanks for the video - I'm not sure we should have a men's movement to counter feminism. You don't want to get stuck in the same rut as the feminists, but definitely we should look at the types of violence occurring and stop equating "victim" with "woman". _A Private Family Matter_ is a an excellent memoir by Victor Rivas, abused as a child by his father. _Translated Woman_ by Ruth Behar shows abuse of women by mother-in-laws in Mexico.
I am not being a sexiest but women are more vulnerable. Maybe men are abused emotionally but seldom physically. Physical abuse is the worst. Are you kidding me! Our society is still patriarhcal. Look around the world and see how many women are suffering. Stop acting like a male chauvintist.
Google Fiebert and learn. This bibliography examines 209 scholarly investigations: 161 empirical studies and 48 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 201,500.
Protecting children means protecting both male and female children.Therefore in the case of children there are male human beings protected also.Domestic violence directed against men does exist, it is just rarer than DV directed against women by men.Most men do not batter or bully their wives or girlfriends.
I totally agree with you. Nowadays males get stereotyped in the media as the abusers and basically everything that a human can do wrong and women are portrayed as victims and the loving ones... It's like it's a crime to BE a man in the first place.
Also, when a women is in an argument with a male in the media somehow in like 95% of the times it's standard that EVERYTHING she says is applauded and the male needs to have VERY strong arguments to win...
No the statistic is it's 15% against men, 85% against women, but 15% is too much! The problem is that's fairly new and suggests a fighting back - not against the victims in particular, but a kind of global need to become tough. We are becoming more violent since domestic violence has been legal and tolerated for over 2000 years.
But thank you, love, for making this excellent point.
"The NFVS results have been replicated in over 200 independent studies.
As measured by the NFVS, the frequency for overall violence in relationships during 1992 in the U.S. was 8-12% for male-on-female, and 9-10% for female-on-male violence. For severe violence, about 2% of couples reported male-on-female, and 3-6% reported female-on-male violence."
Those numbers can't be right. They would confound all other reports done before and after. If it were such a serious problem with women ruining the lives of men there would be shelters and activists, no? Yet I've visited the 'safe' houses and counseling centers and it's all women. I'll be back with numbers but common sense dictates these numbers are missing something...
This means nothing unless you state the total number of homicides so we can see what % you are talking about. Males are more often killed by other males than intimate partners. Hence the 5%!
From historian and feminist Elizabeth Pleck Actually, though, several states passed statutes legally prohibiting wife-beating; and at least one statute even predates the American Revolution. The Massachusetts Bay Colony prohibited wife-beating as early as 1655. The edict states: "No man shall strike his wife nor any woman her husband on penalty of such fine not exceeding ten pounds for one offense, or such corporal punishment as the County shall determine."
Interesting that Massachusetts actually had a law that early. I'll have to dig up my research on stats. When I was writing about it there were not laws on the books until the 1900s. Even then the biggest problem was they had no teeth. Police wouldn't arrest when a complaint was made because of the way the laws put responsibility on the females and the police. It wasn't until 1990-91 that laws were changed to require arrests when blood, bruising or other damage was visible to the police officer.
But this is not to in any way mitigate the importance of your message since violence of any kind - except in self defense - is abhorrent. Also these stats are for the U.S.
Do you REALLY think people would waste such time for such a weak reason? The goal is quality marriages, quality families, quality child-rearing so when they veer from that we can criticize. I find the women's lib constant cry to "leave your husband" criminal, but intervention must be quick and harsh. Husbands need to be raised and taught correct behavior, full responsibility for sexual actions and respect for mothers. I think this is the underlying problem.
Finally, the problem is deeper than you realize. 90% of deadbeats, losers, criminals, murderers etc come from single mother homes - something our gov't created.
Bottom line:
Single mother homes produce the emotionally dysfunctional men you believe need training.
The reality is a 2 biological parent home is and always has been the breeding ground of decent men and women.
Domestic violence is perpetrated by women more often than men. Men are just ashamed to talk about it. Women are more likely to commit major physical abuse of their children than are men: 56.8 percent to 43.2 percent, mothers accounted for 86 percent of newborn deaths. I think we should start holding women to the same standards we hold for men. They get away with murder while men go to jail for seeing their children outside of court specified time.
This statistic about child abuse must be addressed. It doesn't warrant removing children from the mother, however, as many men suggest after they have NEW WIVES. That is an horrific crime.
I don't think it's that they are ashamed to talk about it. I think it's that there is no threat to them! When a little woman beats on the chest of a man nothing is damaged! But in the reverse scenario a woman can be killed.
Women can be quite deadly with knifes and guns. We have created powerful women abuse industry and, as a result fathers lose their children in about 90% of divorce situations in N. America. It is very profitable to "defend women". As a result young men do not want to marry anymore and great number of women remains single.
Another great video from you, hope to see a lot more :) I must admit I do find it exceedingly annoying when some women go on about being the complete equal of a man yet when it suits them lay the poor weak female card. Of course a Woman could never be violent/the perpetrator of domestic abuse they are weaker than men, the man is stronger"
You can't have it both ways, you can't clain to be the complete equal of a man and then when it suits turn around and say something which implies the complete opposite.
And of course I realise that Domestic Violence against women is a huge problem, I am a female who was in an abusive relationship myself for a couple of years. That doesn't mean though that we should ignore the fact that men can be victims to and they deserve equal consideration, protection and support under the law.
sorry I didn't respond to this sooner, YouTube isn't all that reliable on letting me know when I've received responses or comments. Anyway thank you :) and I am very happy to report that it is completely a thing of the past and I am now very happily married to an absolutely wonderful man who treats me with a lot of love and respect :)
Women are not the 'same' as men. They are weaker and more delicate, proven in recent studies on health. That also makes them more easily hurt by violence and PARTICULARLY more damaged by a man's double musculature, than the reverse. Being "equal" however should have meant to imply 'not an inferior species',as implied for centuries. Rights regarding the sexes must take into account the very different bodies of the male and female, and vive la difference!
Lomaxcraig. There is already a mens movement but it doesn't receive the massive funding of the feminist movement. Zero in fact! Try mens-linksdotnet and take your pick. Antimisandrydotcom has a wealth of information on mens issues and is very well laid out.
Both eventually escaped. Mom lived with a women's advocate, received police protection and financial assistance. Dad moved back in with his mother for a while.
I know there is inequity in the system, I've lived it from both sides. But the masculinist movement has some pretty ridiculous ideas about what is equitable.
To give you a little background, after my parents divorced they both got into abusive relationships.
My step-father would take mom's so she could not go to work and at one point tried to run her over.
My father was banned from the computer, had to account for his whereabouts, and had his income confiscated so that he could not by gas without his wife's permission.
I fail to see how refusing sex can be considered abuse. How do you create a fair situation in which one partner is obligated to offer his or her body for the use of another.
I would quite like to know where people get these statistics from. I know a hell of a lot more than four women and not one of them has suffered from domestic abuse. Also I think that woman aren't as likely to physically abuse their partners as men are. Mentally abuse however is a different (and sometimes far worse) matter al together.
Same here on the abuse/rape thing. Of course it's all about the definition. Someone actually came up with the figure 1/4 but on an extremely liberal definition of rape.
However, I think even without the media hype the stereotypical scenario for any situation is going to be the most socially acknowledged one (the accepted norm).
Query: In the movies any competition between a man and a woman will ALWAYS result in her winning. (esp. comedy, action, sci fi, childrens). If it's a physical comp - he will usually be sexually abused.
PS - The media has absolutely nothing to do with fairness. Never has, never will. It's just away to exploit current events and views for maximal financial gain (societal acceptance).
Check out AChildsRights org
usmcoth 5 months ago
I agree with you. I think the general view society has is that men should just man up and take it. Or no one would believe them and even feel oppressed. I think the numbers would be higher than women statistics if the cases were actually reported. Sadly most cases that happen to men are NOT reported. Thank you for speaking up and speaking out.
MsSSnow 1 year ago
womens were always a problem ,u fat Cunt
samib21 1 year ago
2%??? There is alot more men who suffer from Abuse from there partner then women! It's just men are shamed by society, and unbelieved, so it's all hidden numbers. All social experiments show that people will run to the aid of a woman who's being hit by a man..but a man who is publically hit by a woman are laughed at. No aid is given to him. Y? Many people admit they thing the men deserve it when they see a woman hitting them, yet they don't know the truth as to Y a woman is hitting him
julieannec1969 1 year ago
Oh my god ! You threw the newspaper away, YOU'RE A VIOLENT MAN, ARGUSEYES !!! You should go through therapy and learn how to deal with your violent male instincts. If all else fails, you should consider castration or even lobotomy. ;) That's what feminized western societies want us to be nowadays: castrated, lobotomized, feminized zombies who are unable to feel anything, let alone anger. Just shut up and take it like a man !
SickerThanThou 1 year ago
And not having sex with someone is not sexual abuse against them.
SepherStar 1 year ago
You hear about women because women have spoken out. More men who have been victims of domestic violence should also speak out.
SepherStar 1 year ago
If it was a worldwide estimate then I do believe 1 in 4 women have been the victim of domestic violence. In some countries it is not taboo for men to hit their wives or worse. Supporting battered women should have nothing to do with oppressing battered men, or the other way around. A victim of domestic violence is a victim of domestic violence, whether they are a man or a woman.
SepherStar 1 year ago
men should avoid matrimony by about 150% nowadays to avoid the accusation paradigm being presumed to be guilty of DV say for raising his voice or slamming the door on cupcake - better be holidaying in Majorca than contending a divorce instigated by a new age gal
shazam20007 1 year ago
It's true... there is no such thing as gender equality... females have much more rights in the society then the males...
zakfar20000 1 year ago
Interesting video, Argus. Congrats for vocalising your views on a place where lots of people can see it. Good job!
MissJoey006 2 years ago
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Man shut yo fat 4 eyed ass up
handsome252 2 years ago
irish if a person with holds sex to get what they want what is it then.
66dcook 2 years ago
this guy is telling the truth. i was a batterd husbend and the reason i took it was that she told me no one would beleve me, the sad part is she was right. the laws are totley agenst men she used the law to take my child away. its like being raped and told that you dezerved it. i want to start a mens rights group and i need hellp to do it so come on guys lets get it started.
josephbaska2000 3 years ago
I'm sorry to hear about your abuse Joesph. Instead of yet another group, have you thought about an existing one? Like f4j?
Anyway, makeing videos about your experience here on youtube is a good way to go in my opinion.
ArgusEyes 3 years ago
@ArgusEyes Do you think Rape should be legalized?
view587 2 years ago
View587, do you think that one person's abuse should be any less valid than another's?
Bowspearer 2 years ago
@josephbaska2000 Lets cry for the 3 men who get beaten up and rape the thousands who get beaten! That would be fair right?
view587 2 years ago
When a guy gets batteredand has everything robbed off him & his kid he gets NO HELP from anybody,justice has to be handed out later!!!.
lancashirepolice 3 years ago
Isn't Honor Blackman the actress who played Pussy Galore?
CountArtha 3 years ago
I don't know how you figure that. It seems to me that relationships today are intensely abusive; couples don't seem to care for each other at all, at least not for long and mothers seem to consider their children as less than human. I mean there's no way you can convince me that a woman who can kill her kid is gonna make a good mother, unless she undergoes a radical, profound and sustained change in her orientation towards children and their value, worth and rights.
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
Your right! lol I got to say this though, we all went to "therapy" and we've all been "educated" and we've all seen the scary examples of what happens to people who get crushed by our zero tolerance laws. Yet, we still have tons of "Domestic Violence," in fact, it appears to be on the rise. (lol @ the irony)
So, I think we should all "go home" on this one and conclude: couples fight and that's just the way it is or in the simple language of the masses, "shit happens"
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
My fathers name is Christopher John Morton of Faifax Close, Winchester. He was the most brutal wife beater. He used to plan his attacks on her with meticulous detail and carried them out with precision. She would beg for her life each time. She escaped with her two children, and just the clothes on her back. Remember - men are stronger physically, to hold a womens head and smash it into a wall. He vowed only to hit her where the bruises won't show. She is my hero. Her courage is amazing. xxx
ultraharry264 3 years ago
I was inspired by the story of David Pelzer. If you've never heard of him, you should look him up. He's put his life story onto a CD book. I got a copy from the library and was moved by it. I know a lot of men can relate to the story of this little boy who was so terribly abused by his mother and abandoned by his father and brothers.
On the other hand, I don't want to pay the state taxes to play daddy for my people. I mean, they'll put kids through worse than that! You better believe that!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
I've read that book, man the mother was so cruel, evil and wicked to David
Nadine375 2 years ago
Yeah, she made a "sacrifice" out of him.
Italiasalbion 2 years ago
Domestic violence against women is only fair, since it's treating them like they treat us. Your FATHER should be your hero, not your mother.
Male oppression = Women are gonna get HURT!
EvilUrago 3 years ago
Well. Patriarchy rules in your house hold then.
I won't be taking your comments seriously. I am just very concerned and sad for the women around you.
ultraharry264 3 years ago
You know we should all ABUSE OUR PERFECT legal system, every body calls the police twice a day, every body goes to court about who is cooking tonight, who cares about the legal system anyway?
meka4996 3 years ago
In my town, if somebody calls the cops on you, the cops tell you who did it. Now, the whole code is criminalized. So, you spit on the sidewalk and it's a misdemeanor. Hence, everybody is guilty of something that is obvious to their neighbors.
It's better to, mind your own business and be neighborly.
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
People always say that, but on the other hand, my experience has been that people generally support this crap. When neighbors, spouses, family and friends regularly use these laws against each other; when men refuse to stand up for each other and use this trash against each other, well, the outcome isn't surprising.
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
Still, the exception doesn't prove the rule. Neighbors and police should butt out!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
You're right though; the cops and courts are bogged down with idiotic crap. It's scary.
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
Yeah, I saw a recent story about a guy who backed the car over his wife and two year old daughter. They weren't injured. I speculate, that the event went something like this: man and wife in fight; he leaves; she tries to stop him, but fails; in desperation she sits in driveway; she brings child to extort him into stopping. He tries to scare her into moving out of the way.
A sane legal system does nothing and prudent neighbors, mind their own business.
Fin!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
plus I would say your 90% guess actually is the rubbish. Of the people I personally know who made DV calls, all of them were made in an emergency. Plus, a lot of people who have never suffered abuse from a male, find it easy to pretend it doesn't happen..but many women I know, including in my own family have been actually abused (lives threatened and women injured), so people like this guy can kiss my ass and those who think only 10% of DV calls are real.
Missus2112 3 years ago
I don't think men aren't abused and I don't think all women are victims or that all women who claim to be victims are, I'm just saying, this guy is a woman hater. It doesn't matter the stats because there's info on both sides, I'm just talking about this guy and his websites are all anti woman and villainizing those who DO get abused. Anyway, this video means nothing to me anymore, just something annoying I saw while browsing.
Missus2112 3 years ago
What I'm going to say is going to be taken the wrong way by some people:
I'm a guy and I don't condome spousal beating. I do belive that all people should be treated equally however. When I man hits me I'd usually hit him back. When a woman hits me I'd do exactly the same. There should be no double-standard for self-defense.
theinfamouscamXXII 3 years ago
Freiheit!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
How extreme!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
From your detractors, naught but petulant snivelling and weak wristed ad hominem mudslinging; from your supporters, simple consensus and quiet agreement.
redtopmp 3 years ago
How verbose!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
How indeed. Interesting.
redtopmp 3 years ago
Excellent job Argus. Sorry to see your comments have been discovered by the truth hating community.
redtopmp 3 years ago
They always do.
ArgusEyes 3 years ago
It is my impression that the meaning of the term, "domestic violence" is so broad that, I reckon, every single person on Planet Earth is an "offender." Hermits included!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
Another good Argus video!
Italiasalbion 3 years ago
unfortunatly we live now in a society that accept male abuse and celebrate it ,Case and point , look at the movie ,tv show and sitcom .from the movie Norbit , to sitcom like Rosanne , men are beat .slap ,ridicule .And it is part of the comedy bit part , how do you desensatize an affliction ? Simp;y by making light of it .And Texas Boy, if a women hits you in the nuts,and you hit her back , you are the one going to the slamer and wll have a record of female abuse, how tough does that make you?
jerrdan1966 3 years ago
hahahahaha!!you are a weirdo...come on over her to Texas and let me make a man out of you!
dixintex 3 years ago
Who says that women are the only ones who can be abused? ANYONE can be abused. Do you know how many atrocities I could complain about men doing right now, as we speak? Do you really want to compare? Seriously, bring it! You just want to hear yourself talk. I feel sorry for the person who birthed you, all that effort and pain for this result.
Missus2112 3 years ago
So I guess all these women are lying, and because men can be abused, women should be forgotten.
Missus2112 3 years ago
I think you missed something. The point of the vid was to expose that this exact senario is HAPPENING to MEN. What a dense conclusion.
Exitus767 3 years ago
No, if you watch the video you realize he's villainizing women who have been abused...and if you go to a website he's affiliated with...it's a hate site against women who say they have been abused. He's basically sick of feeling like men are the monsters when some men get abused...but in his arguement he puts down the women who are abused as well. He basically has a screw loose. Your conclusion is the dense one my friend.
Missus2112 3 years ago
Agreed Missus. Argus also says on one of his video descriptions that he'd love to hear a feminist reaction. Many feminists have tried and he just tells them they're crazy, thereby ending any possible discussion. He's afraid of FACTS. When you tell him a fact his glasses wobble and he makes more trashy videos.
DianaBoston 2 years ago
DianaBoston I have argued with you before, and I can clearly see why he thinks you are deranged. You just go around shouting bullshit, and does not tolerate any opposing arguments. Why did you block me after I refuted your argument?
hpufo 2 years ago
This coming from someone who has censored even reasonable comments on her own videos. To be honest your own reactions to comments I made to one particular video you made was at best, incredibly irrational. I think it's about time you and others of similar mindset realise that you're misandrists & that equality is about as far away as possible from what you actually strive towards. Take off the rose coloured glasses & actually look at what feminism has become in spite of its wonderful beginnings.
Bowspearer 2 years ago
by abuse I mean telling the woman she is worthless, hitting her, throwing her, Threatening those she loves, punching her, claiming she's fat and worthless, etc...I mean, I'm not talking about men wasting our money or withholding sex! You might as well say leaving your towel on the floor is abuse against you. I am not making light of men who are abused, but to ignore the plight of women because you're offended for your sex? How rotten can you be? Oh, I'm sorry, I just abused you didn't I?
irishbrwnie 3 years ago
"1 in 4 women will experienc domestic violence" is a pretty reasonable statement. My father is abusive, all of my friends' boyfriends are abusive, and my husband is the one man I have experienced who isn't abusive, and let's look at 3rd world coutnries shall we? You going to tell me most of those victims are men? Of course some women are bad to their husbands, but it is not NEARLY as common. And no, withholding sex is not sexual abuse, I don't care what a pamphlet says.
irishbrwnie 3 years ago
Ok, I don't get why DV is such a big deal. I mean, would it not be easier to focus on teaching people to act more humanely instead of trying to prevent specific acts. Like which is easier, giving someone a good moral compass early on or trying to anticipate every action they may take. I think expanding DV to financial and emotional is crap, and sexual is acceptable only if it actually involves physical violence. So, why don't we focus on teaching people right from wrong and see if that helps.
JeffPatterson93 3 years ago
Your knowledge is limited.Quote "Despite the facts" surely you realise that for a topic such as DV the facts are crucial. Also I think you'll find the laws are limited and don't even define domestic violence. Another correction: Financial abuse is using money to exert control, usually by deprivation. "waste money"? Maybe you should do some reading. Yes men are effected this can not be denied, look at the facts 1 in 6 actually, however women are more at risk 1 in 4.
cranberryb 3 years ago
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How about "NOBODY" pays tax so the bitch (legal prostitute) can't judge people for money so she can drink $4.00 cups of coffee at whorebucks with wicked bastards like abortion doctors (legal murderers) in a casual social setting?
And I'll just sit back and tell you why paid Judges of Law will burn in the Lake of Fire for conforming to the beast for a whore's wage.
(Revelation 13:18) & (1 Kings 10:19)
(Galatians 5:4)
greggprovenza 3 years ago
also..no woman will ever come near you anyway so your rights will not ever be affected by a woman..no go back to your war hammer game
082076 4 years ago
To any women who have been hurt, once thats a crime. Its when you go back to the bastard that you forfiet your right for sympathy...i was a child that got to watch my mom beaten for five years before she left..things are all taken care of now but i still wake up hearing him beat her and im 31 years old...kill him, leave him..you can do it. as for men beaten by women..thats a fantasy. this vid is redicoulous..figures fkn limey!
082076 4 years ago
wtf is that? iz he nazi?
xxxORKAxxx 4 years ago
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Mothers for Justice.
UKSecretCourts 4 years ago
I love your accent! :D Okay, now on to the serious topic. I agree with you. Men need protection and attention when they are abused the same as women. Women who abuse men should be subject to the same treatment, laws and punishment that men who abuse are. Thanks for getting this message out there.
JaysonsMom 4 years ago
this guy looks kinda racist.....
onedominicanfellow 4 years ago
And you look kinda stupid...
itachi705 4 years ago
and youre an idiot
onedominicanfellow 4 years ago
Woah boy! You really got me...
itachi705 4 years ago
yeah i got you good!...too bad i cant physically kick you in the balls due to the distance but u knowing i got u good is good enuff
onedominicanfellow 4 years ago
Look the term "sarcasm" up in a dictionary.
itachi705 4 years ago
yeah i got u good, too bad i cant physically kick u in the bal due to the distance between your nuts and my foot..but u knowing i got u good is good enuff
onedominicanfellow 4 years ago
Bundlehastings, that was a dumb arguement. Add in statistics of men killed by their wives and quit with the feminist 'he' deserved it crap. 2nd, it's 2008. Women have jobs too or should. 3rd, men have kids and should have equal Rights as parents, but don't as proved by your single parent/only parent statement giving the mother the only voice.
Mountcastle73 4 years ago
UK government statistics show that more than 300 women a year are killed by their husbands. That's nearly one a day. Most men can leave a violent woman, most women cannot, as they often have kids and no income.
bundleHastings 4 years ago
And many time when a wife kills her husband she..
1. Uses manipulates her lover into doing the deed...
2. Induces another person (mostly males) to do the deed with promises of sex/drugs/money...
3. Pays for a professional hit...(paid for with the husbands money!)
Stealthmodeon 4 years ago
4. Claims of "abuse" exonerate any level of culpability. Case study- In Australia a woman - Sent the children off to school, then,
Put on (her own) camouflaged clothing,then,
Obtained a firearm (of which she OWNED several), then,
Parked a car in a clear area on the property, then,
Used her OWN mobile phone to call her husband telling him "my cars broken down, come fix it", then,
Hides in bushes to wait for her husband, then,
While he is fixing the car with his back towards her she, then...
Stealthmodeon 4 years ago
Shoots him in the back and again when he is on the ground.
This was found to have been "self-defense" - HOW?!?
She had access to a mobile phone, firearms, vehicles etc... The first thing an abusive partner does is remove access to the outside world and access to weapons, as a method of maintaining control.
She could have gone to any of the womens shelters around the state, had the police serve an AVO kicking him out of the house and take all the weapons away. But she SHOT HIM IN THE BACK!
Stealthmodeon 4 years ago
bundle. Liar Liar! The figure for 05-06 is 84 women and 30 men killed by current or ex partners. Source Home Office Statistical Bulletin. This doesn't include the number of men killed by other men on behalf of current or ex female partners. Twice as many men than women were murdered in that year. View "Pizza Bashing" to see how easily a mangina will attack another guy at the request of a woman.
jbgood3 4 years ago
bundle "Most men can leave a violent woman, most women cannot, as they often have kids and no income." You've summed it up nicely "they often have kids" and those kids will be left behind with the violent woman with nobody to protect them if Dad goes and the courts will back her every time unless she kills one of them perhaps! So many men cannot leave a violent woman. Btw when CS is mentioned they are HIS kids, any other time they are "her" kids lol!
jbgood3 4 years ago
John "oops sorry i thought you where againts men" Thats OK John. Just less of the "feminist" if you don't mind!
jbgood3 4 years ago
"so your not?" No, I'm not.
jbgood3 4 years ago
What makes you think I'm a feminist?
jbgood3 4 years ago
john "lol who are you" The last time I looked I was me!
jbgood3 4 years ago
WellI've been called many things but that is a first for feminist!
jbgood3 4 years ago
johnwelshmangina "no it`s just your a feminist" So you think feminists are pricks?
jbgood3 4 years ago
johnwelshmangina. "jbgood3/your the biggest prick going"
Fan male!
jbgood3 4 years ago
"Better still why not let Dad keep the house, kids and paycheck leaving her free to pursue her career? "
Indeed.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Here are some victims who are not ignored! Recently California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, Connecticut Governor M. Jodi Rell, and numerous others took action to protect animals from abusive relationships.
Earlier this year Rell signed a bill to protect pet victims of domestic violence and explained with a straight face, "Pets are too often the silent victims of domestic violence. They cannot fight back, and they are presently afforded no protection under our current legal system."
jbgood3 4 years ago
I see why you're a male chauvintist...you're ugly
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
And I can see why you think wanting equal rights is akin to chauvanism: you're a fucking idiot.
itachi705 4 years ago
If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say. If not, then what's in for them? You think they'll even care about a fat guy who can't get a date a bitches like mad when violence against women is much worse?
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Getting a date or being attractive has absolutely nothing to do with domenstic violence, but you're obviously too much of a pre-pubescent twat to understand that. It's a common shaming tactic used by radical feminists, i.e. it is completely irrelevant. Go die in a fire.
itachi705 4 years ago 2
Anteo "If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say." Even the ugliest of men will find women swooning over him if he has an education or cash in his pocket as you well know. Its women who can't get men to commit remember? Wow! You've arrived!
jbgood3 4 years ago
Ok, then i change it: the man has to get some money because if not, no woman is going to be interested in him. And as he is not handsome, his chances with women decrease. And as you well know, being born pretty is easier that working your butt off to get enough money to have women swooning over you.Good like with that one.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "If he loses some weight, then women might find him attractive and actually listen to what he has to say." The reason you don't find Argus attractive is because you know you couldn't control him in the same way you could a mangina poodle boy.
jbgood3 4 years ago
So you think that if I could control him, he'd suddenly turn into a hunk ? Don't think so...unless he's a millionare, of course. Don't blame me, though: females look for a resources in a man. That, and good genetic material to pass on your children. That's what traditional marriages are based on.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "females look for a resources in a man." Exactly. Thats why they marry up, although they don't always divorce down. Here in the UK a woman must be maintained in the "manner to which she has been accustomed" post divorce despite the fact she married up to achieve that standard! This means the man must pay spousal support for a non existent spouse! "Ladies first" as always!
jbgood3 4 years ago
Regarding your complaints...men could marry up to, you know. It's not women's fault they're not doing it. Either that or you demand that women work and make their own money...which is feminism in a nutshell. Of course, if women do that, they'll have to postpone having children or not have them at all. And then, of course, people like you will say it's feminism fault.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "men could marry up to, you know. It's not women's fault they're not doing it." A heterosexual marriage is teamwork for two people to have kids, where the man brings his earning capacity, the woman her child bearing capacity. If the woman earns more than man. Her stopping work for kids is uneconomical, just as its not worth her marrying down.
jbgood3 4 years ago
Are you willing to accept a women who in order to have succes and money decides not to have children so you won't suffer financial problems during your divorce? Or you basically want a woman who is a child-bearing machine, stays at home and will not say a word if you happen to divorce her and leave her on the street?
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Whats needed is fairness ie.50/50. If she brings a lower earning capacity plus child bearing to a marriage in exchange for her man facilitating her lifestyle while she gives him kids. Why should she be able to leave with those kids, house and a large slice of his paycheck should she choose to renege (upto 93%)on an agreement she voluntarily entered into?
jbgood3 4 years ago
Then we should be celebrating and be happy about people marrying less and less,no? If they marry less, then the women don't get the husband's money and if men don't commit, they are less willing to enter a relationship that is economically negative for them. So marriage strike is a good thing, then?
The "large slice of his paycheck" is probably child support and is for the CHILD.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "So marriage strike is a good thing, then?" No. A marriage strike is not a good thing for the countries concerned because it leads to a falling birthrate. In the UK it is 1.66 kids/woman. Way below replenishment rate of 2.1. This a society that is slowly dieing out!
jbgood3 4 years ago
Tell that to your friends of the "marriage strike", not me. Most of the women you describe as the ones who keep the children, the house and the paycheck are not feminists. On the contrary: they're usually the stay-at-home mums who couldn't develop a career becuase of the children. So the judges, seeing as it is they who take care of the children and have less opportunities in the job market, decide to grant them cusotody and child support.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
A good way to change that is that fathers are encorauged to take care of their children as much as mothers do. That way, women could work. Should the couple ever happen to divorce,women will have their own money and judges might see men as competent with their own children.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "The "large slice of his paycheck" is probably child support and is for the CHILD." You have forgotten spousal support in which a man pays money to a non existent spouse. ie she has withdrawn from whatever she put into the partnership yet he must continue to put in.
jbgood3 4 years ago
Anteo"Then we should be celebrating and be happy about people marrying less and less,no?" No. You and your feminist friends should be happy at your success. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW
jbgood3 4 years ago
This Sheila Cronin hardly speaks for all feminists. And you should know it, given that you seem to know feminism so well.
People should do as they please: if they want to get married, let them. If they go on a "marrage strike", it's fine by me.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Although, it is a bit of an irony that you say women are the ones that have trouble getting a man into commit...and then imply that women gain nothing from feminism and should come back to the traditional family. If anything, it looks like it is you who has trouble getting women in general to commit.
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "it looks like it is you who has trouble getting women in general to commit." No man can get women to commit because marriage is now a temporary arrangement due to no fault divorce so its pointless to enter. Feminist states have got round this by giving cohabitees the same rights as married. Afterall women can't get the benefits of divorce without marrying (up) first!
jbgood3 4 years ago
So first you say as an argument that it is women who can't get men into commit...and then you say it's the other way around. Which is it?
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo Marriage has become a temporary arrangement therefore no commitment is entered into. Therefore, no man can get women to truly commit to anything except a temporary arrangement that benefits only women via marriage and divorce. Hence women cannot get men to commit. See "Marriage strike" in Wiki.
jbgood3 4 years ago
You propose a model of marriage that is not beneficial to women (if they divorce, they don't get to keep anything)and expect them to commit. But justify men who don't want to marry. Can't you see that women will have the same aversion to your model just as you say men do now?
AnteojosdeFanny 4 years ago
Anteo "if they divorce, they don't get to keep anything)and expect them to commit." Where did I say they don't get to keep anything? They should get to keep 50% of assets plus joint custody of kids unless other factors prevent it. No alimony and no CS. Better still why not let Dad keep the house, kids and paycheck leaving her free to pursue her career?
jbgood3 4 years ago
Ohhh yeah! Why don't you just google 'women and domestic violence' and learn more. It's reported that 61% of women are physically/sexully abused in the US alone. In spite of all the laws and other organizations that project women here. It's worse in rest of the world. Please get your facts right. And a small sample of 200k people represents nothing and most of these statisics are confined to a particular place and race (usually)
sonureddyin 4 years ago
Sonur. This from Timesonline Nov8/05. Google Microwaveman "Much less fun to examine the 2004 government report which revealed that, yes, 205,000 women were kicked, bitten or punched by a partner — but then, so were 177,000 men. Of 24,000 partners who suffered serious wounding with a weapon, 11,000 were men." Get your facts straight. DV is a human issue.
jbgood3 4 years ago
See women still outnumber men in Dv right. And I am not denying that Dv is a human issue, it definitely is. Because it happens in lesbian and gay relations too. All i said is women are more prone and I am surprised to see people have -ve reactions. And yes there are many wonder lands out there!
sonureddyin 4 years ago
How about you get your facts straight?
"It's reported that 61% of women are physically/sexully abused in the US alone."
What an utter crock of shit. How about posting something that isn't obviously biased, hm?
itachi705 4 years ago
Thanks for the video - I'm not sure we should have a men's movement to counter feminism. You don't want to get stuck in the same rut as the feminists, but definitely we should look at the types of violence occurring and stop equating "victim" with "woman". _A Private Family Matter_ is a an excellent memoir by Victor Rivas, abused as a child by his father. _Translated Woman_ by Ruth Behar shows abuse of women by mother-in-laws in Mexico.
rivendell400 4 years ago
I am not being a sexiest but women are more vulnerable. Maybe men are abused emotionally but seldom physically. Physical abuse is the worst. Are you kidding me! Our society is still patriarhcal. Look around the world and see how many women are suffering. Stop acting like a male chauvintist.
sonureddyin 4 years ago
Google Fiebert and learn. This bibliography examines 209 scholarly investigations: 161 empirical studies and 48 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 201,500.
jbgood3 4 years ago
"Stop acting like a male chauvintist."
How about you stop acting like someone who has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Oh wait, you aren't acting.
itachi705 4 years ago 2
Protecting children means protecting both male and female children.Therefore in the case of children there are male human beings protected also.Domestic violence directed against men does exist, it is just rarer than DV directed against women by men.Most men do not batter or bully their wives or girlfriends.
Janvierireland 4 years ago
I totally agree with you. Nowadays males get stereotyped in the media as the abusers and basically everything that a human can do wrong and women are portrayed as victims and the loving ones... It's like it's a crime to BE a man in the first place.
Also, when a women is in an argument with a male in the media somehow in like 95% of the times it's standard that EVERYTHING she says is applauded and the male needs to have VERY strong arguments to win...
willemdawillem 4 years ago
No the statistic is it's 15% against men, 85% against women, but 15% is too much! The problem is that's fairly new and suggests a fighting back - not against the victims in particular, but a kind of global need to become tough. We are becoming more violent since domestic violence has been legal and tolerated for over 2000 years.
But thank you, love, for making this excellent point.
miamimary22 4 years ago
Not true. This from Dr.Charles Correy.
"The NFVS results have been replicated in over 200 independent studies.
As measured by the NFVS, the frequency for overall violence in relationships during 1992 in the U.S. was 8-12% for male-on-female, and 9-10% for female-on-male violence. For severe violence, about 2% of couples reported male-on-female, and 3-6% reported female-on-male violence."
jbgood3 4 years ago
Those numbers can't be right. They would confound all other reports done before and after. If it were such a serious problem with women ruining the lives of men there would be shelters and activists, no? Yet I've visited the 'safe' houses and counseling centers and it's all women. I'll be back with numbers but common sense dictates these numbers are missing something...
miamimary22 4 years ago
Here are the latest statistics from the Department of Justice:
Females are more likely than males to experience nonfatal intimate partner violence.
On average between 1993-2004, nonfatal intimate partner victimizations represented --
22% of nonfatal violent victimizations against females 12 and older
3% of nonfatal violent victimizations against males age 12 and older.
For homicides, intimate partners commit -
30% of homicides of females.
5% of homicides of males.
miamimary22 4 years ago
Mia. "For homicides, intimate partners commit -
30% of homicides of females.
5% of homicides of males."
This means nothing unless you state the total number of homicides so we can see what % you are talking about. Males are more often killed by other males than intimate partners. Hence the 5%!
jbgood3 4 years ago
From historian and feminist Elizabeth Pleck Actually, though, several states passed statutes legally prohibiting wife-beating; and at least one statute even predates the American Revolution. The Massachusetts Bay Colony prohibited wife-beating as early as 1655. The edict states: "No man shall strike his wife nor any woman her husband on penalty of such fine not exceeding ten pounds for one offense, or such corporal punishment as the County shall determine."
jbgood3 4 years ago
Interesting that Massachusetts actually had a law that early. I'll have to dig up my research on stats. When I was writing about it there were not laws on the books until the 1900s. Even then the biggest problem was they had no teeth. Police wouldn't arrest when a complaint was made because of the way the laws put responsibility on the females and the police. It wasn't until 1990-91 that laws were changed to require arrests when blood, bruising or other damage was visible to the police officer.
miamimary22 4 years ago
But this is not to in any way mitigate the importance of your message since violence of any kind - except in self defense - is abhorrent. Also these stats are for the U.S.
miamimary22 4 years ago
FACTS:
Over 50% of SPOUSAL ABUSE is perpetuated by WOMEN
Over 70% of CHILD KILLERS are MOTHERS
Over 50% of CHILD ABUSE is perpetuated by WOMEN.
Thank you very much, and thank your media who is OWNED by the elites who profit from ramming wedges between men, women, and children.
luckyvet 4 years ago
Do you REALLY think people would waste such time for such a weak reason? The goal is quality marriages, quality families, quality child-rearing so when they veer from that we can criticize. I find the women's lib constant cry to "leave your husband" criminal, but intervention must be quick and harsh. Husbands need to be raised and taught correct behavior, full responsibility for sexual actions and respect for mothers. I think this is the underlying problem.
miamimary22 4 years ago
You are absolutely delusional. Your masters sought to destroy marriage by many means and they have succeeded.
The wedges between women and men are in place, you need to grow up and visit the rest of the world to comprehend the hatred in our society.
Everything your media pumps out at you is an illusion.
luckyvet 4 years ago
Finally, the problem is deeper than you realize. 90% of deadbeats, losers, criminals, murderers etc come from single mother homes - something our gov't created.
Bottom line:
Single mother homes produce the emotionally dysfunctional men you believe need training.
The reality is a 2 biological parent home is and always has been the breeding ground of decent men and women.
Don't speak to me about training men - fucktard.
luckyvet 4 years ago
Domestic violence is perpetrated by women more often than men. Men are just ashamed to talk about it. Women are more likely to commit major physical abuse of their children than are men: 56.8 percent to 43.2 percent, mothers accounted for 86 percent of newborn deaths. I think we should start holding women to the same standards we hold for men. They get away with murder while men go to jail for seeing their children outside of court specified time.
AugustusAlfa 4 years ago
This statistic about child abuse must be addressed. It doesn't warrant removing children from the mother, however, as many men suggest after they have NEW WIVES. That is an horrific crime.
miamimary22 4 years ago
I don't think it's that they are ashamed to talk about it. I think it's that there is no threat to them! When a little woman beats on the chest of a man nothing is damaged! But in the reverse scenario a woman can be killed.
miamimary22 4 years ago
Women can be quite deadly with knifes and guns. We have created powerful women abuse industry and, as a result fathers lose their children in about 90% of divorce situations in N. America. It is very profitable to "defend women". As a result young men do not want to marry anymore and great number of women remains single.
AugustusAlfa 4 years ago
Another great video from you, hope to see a lot more :) I must admit I do find it exceedingly annoying when some women go on about being the complete equal of a man yet when it suits them lay the poor weak female card. Of course a Woman could never be violent/the perpetrator of domestic abuse they are weaker than men, the man is stronger"
Emerald72 4 years ago
You can't have it both ways, you can't clain to be the complete equal of a man and then when it suits turn around and say something which implies the complete opposite.
Emerald72 4 years ago
And of course I realise that Domestic Violence against women is a huge problem, I am a female who was in an abusive relationship myself for a couple of years. That doesn't mean though that we should ignore the fact that men can be victims to and they deserve equal consideration, protection and support under the law.
Emerald72 4 years ago
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles.
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
sorry I didn't respond to this sooner, YouTube isn't all that reliable on letting me know when I've received responses or comments. Anyway thank you :) and I am very happy to report that it is completely a thing of the past and I am now very happily married to an absolutely wonderful man who treats me with a lot of love and respect :)
Emerald72 4 years ago
Women are not the 'same' as men. They are weaker and more delicate, proven in recent studies on health. That also makes them more easily hurt by violence and PARTICULARLY more damaged by a man's double musculature, than the reverse. Being "equal" however should have meant to imply 'not an inferior species',as implied for centuries. Rights regarding the sexes must take into account the very different bodies of the male and female, and vive la difference!
miamimary22 4 years ago
So that is why women are suitable for the Fire department right?
jbgood3 4 years ago
"We need a real men's movement to counter these effects"
Where should we start?
Lomaxcraig 4 years ago
The best place to start in my opinion, is to speak out.
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
Lomaxcraig. There is already a mens movement but it doesn't receive the massive funding of the feminist movement. Zero in fact! Try mens-linksdotnet and take your pick. Antimisandrydotcom has a wealth of information on mens issues and is very well laid out.
jbgood3 4 years ago
Can you find a copy online? I'd like to see the context.
nagaLilith 4 years ago
Both eventually escaped. Mom lived with a women's advocate, received police protection and financial assistance. Dad moved back in with his mother for a while.
I know there is inequity in the system, I've lived it from both sides. But the masculinist movement has some pretty ridiculous ideas about what is equitable.
nagaLilith 4 years ago
Such as?
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
To give you a little background, after my parents divorced they both got into abusive relationships.
My step-father would take mom's so she could not go to work and at one point tried to run her over.
My father was banned from the computer, had to account for his whereabouts, and had his income confiscated so that he could not by gas without his wife's permission.
nagaLilith 4 years ago
I fail to see how refusing sex can be considered abuse. How do you create a fair situation in which one partner is obligated to offer his or her body for the use of another.
nagaLilith 4 years ago
That is the position of some feminists, not I.
This misunderstanding seems to have occurred on a number of occasions.
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
That refusing sex is abuse? I haven't heard that used by feminists, certainly not recently. What are you referring to?
nagaLilith 4 years ago
The misunderstanding was I thought you thought that I thought that (if you follow).
The idea came out of a DV batterer's class handbook as one of the signs of a batterer.
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
I would quite like to know where people get these statistics from. I know a hell of a lot more than four women and not one of them has suffered from domestic abuse. Also I think that woman aren't as likely to physically abuse their partners as men are. Mentally abuse however is a different (and sometimes far worse) matter al together.
AmethystPanther 4 years ago
Same here on the abuse/rape thing. Of course it's all about the definition. Someone actually came up with the figure 1/4 but on an extremely liberal definition of rape.
ArgusEyes 4 years ago
However, I think even without the media hype the stereotypical scenario for any situation is going to be the most socially acknowledged one (the accepted norm).
Twonk11 4 years ago
Query: In the movies any competition between a man and a woman will ALWAYS result in her winning. (esp. comedy, action, sci fi, childrens). If it's a physical comp - he will usually be sexually abused.
In a real life fight - the man will usually win.
What does the media represent here?
sirskeptic 4 years ago
the acceptable norm?
Twonk11 4 years ago
Also there is no such thing as ALWAYS, there are always exceptions.... oh wait... irony alert!
Twonk11 4 years ago
PS - The media has absolutely nothing to do with fairness. Never has, never will. It's just away to exploit current events and views for maximal financial gain (societal acceptance).
Twonk11 4 years ago
Very true.
Unfortunately the media has a huge influence on what society sees as acceptable.
The first gay kiss I saw was in 'Death Trap'. It freaked me out. Then I saw Rocky Horror. Felt a little weird. Now when I see it, I barely notice it.
The more you see something the more normal it is.
sirskeptic 4 years ago
Yeap. Although, thats slightly worrying if it applies to all visual media (e.g. horror films). :S
Twonk11 4 years ago