@Laelisha Alexander's mother was named Olympias not Olympia(a key difference in greek language) and was a member of the Molossoi tribe, a north-western greek tribe.And if that's not enough to convince you let me just add that the Illyrian language was totally different than the Greek(although the illyrians borrowed the greek alphabet, a fact known from illyrian inscriptions), so how come all those names Alexander, Phillip,Olympias are greek(which they are and if you want i can explain why)
I'm still sad from the monologue, even if Ptolemy and his son sound almost identical. Alexander would be very proud, regardless of what the critiques said.
amazing scene!!! The truth is the the olny actors that they worth in this film were Anthony Hopkins & Angelina Jolie!!! Oliver Stone is idiot I didn't saw the life and the story of our King Alexander I saw only Colin's Farrell life sex,gay,drinker.Oliver Stone did not respect Alexander's name.
Not at all,not at all. I'm Italian and I studied a lot over his figure and made ancient Greek studies. can assure you that to lie with men was nothing strange in antiquity.The women were seen in many case just like incubators due to make sons.The love within men was seen as a natural pure love and that makes them more and more modern than us. Film well made,not perfect,there're some historical mistakes but at least isn't like the horrible distorting film "Troy", an insult to myth.
@Gi3uly you must be greek not Italian. This movie of course wasnt perfect.It will be perfect when all archives from Vatican Egypt Turkey England and some in Rome will reopen to reveal the truth about Illyrians today Albanians.But i know it wont happend.cause the truth hurts.
One of the most emotional epilogues I've seen in a while. Anthony Hopkins did this brilliantly, and the soft music in the background enhances his words. One of his best moments on film, in my opinion.
Bagoas disappeared from the history ENTIRELY? WTF??? Man, he was PTOLEMY´s slave, right after Alexander´s death! Ptolemy took him and was PROUD to have such a beautiful eunuch in his ownership. And he boasted about Bagoas´ beauty in front of visitors of his palace, when he was an old and almost deaf (as a pharaoh of Egypt). "See? That boy was Alexander´s most beautiful servant and lover!"
A shame that a copy of ptolemy's biography on Alexander didn't survive the centuries, would've been awesome if it did and give us a truer look at Alexander from the viewpoint of one of the men who fought beside him.
What did Pleotmey mean when he said Bogoad disspeared from the Histories entirely? that Boagoas went back to his village and got married or something? or went out from Persia? i didnt quite get thaty. Anyone plx explain.Thanks!!!!...
Anyway if you are referring to the statements made by the man in this video, it is not Ptolemy but Aristotal who is summing up of what had happened . What he menas is that After Alexander, Bagoas just sank into oblivion !
@sahajad No, that is Ptolemy. Aristotle was one of the characters earlier in the movie. Ptolemy was the King of Egypt, and was narrating the entire movie.
Well that's one version of the story. The other version is that a drunken woman started the fire and Alexander tried to put it out but it was too late.
seriously i found this to be the best scene of the whole film, its really good, and it explains some reality, and i totaly love Alexander idea of connecting all the people of the world in such early times, and Ghenghis Khan was not one of the greatest generals ever, but his army shurly was(they say there are 2 races who were rarely defeated in combat Mongols and Germanics) but Alexander the great, Hannibal Barkas, Pyrrhus of Epirus are the 3 best generals the world ever got to see
no way Scipio Africanus Major was a better general then Hannibal Barkas, at the battle of Zama Carthage was betrayd by the Numidians wich marked their absolute doom, (later the Romans betrayd the Numidians, really badass since they could have never defeated Carthage without them) Scipio had only some small victorys in Spain against bad Carthaginian generals, and one false victory agains Hannibal(that was the only 1 time H.Barkas lost a battle), he resumed fighting Rome from Selucia and Armenia
Alexander the ' Great' destroyed Persepolis in ancient Persia ( Iran ) laid it to rubble , in my opinion he was no more then a war monger dictator basically three of histories freaks. 1/ Hitler, 2/ Napoleon and 3/ Alexander the non great !
Lest we forget that Without Alexander, history would not have been the same. Alexander brought Hellenic Influence to te wold, and Eventually it Spread to Rome and Gave rise to the Republic, Then the Empire. Alexander Gave The World a sense of Culture
You should take a look on youtube under Shiraz peter Wheelers slide show . He explains a bit what Alexander did to persepolis , which at the time was capital of ancient Persia and was a couple of thousand years ahead in architecture , civilisation then what was happningin Greece. However, due to the bad reputaion of iran today this part of history has ben I would classify as hidden from the West. To conclude it's history and i believe a war monger such as Alexander wasn't great for humanity.
No one's Perfect, but I'm not saying What Alexander did was right. What Alexander did was wrong, but His Other Achievements Towered over what he failed in. For the first time in history, Megas Alexandros united The World. He opened the gate for all that was to come. The Modern World is filled With Greek Influence in almos tevery aspect of our day to day lives. If Not for Alexander, the World would not be A better Place
What was wrong about what Alexander did? He wanted to unite the world and get rid of cultural prejudice... The sack of Thebes, the slaughter at Tyre, Gaza, and Multan are always remembered by the ones who hate Alexander and forget everything he stood for. At Thebes, the Macedonians didn't do the burning, it was the Boetians who had a score to settle. At Tyre, Alexander gave them the chance to surrender. At Multan, Alexander was shot in the lungs, he could barely breath.
@NoIdeaWhatYouMean True! Alexander spread a wave of hellenistic civilization across the world. Hopefully his dream of a world united will finally be realized.
Your measure of value is destruction? It is harder to construct then to destroy. Any idiot can do that, Genghis Khan was a master at destroying people, at war ,a little question what did he bring as goes for construction , culture and civilization etc? Thanks for the reply! lol
@MrChubbington ;suck my dick, Genghis Khan was a great coward.,in history if he had ever faced ALEXANDER THE GREAT ,Genghis Khan WOULD HAVE lost his dick also his empire and he himself would have died like great coward
There are two versions to the story of Persepolis. One was that a drunken woman started the fire and Alexander tried to put it out but it was too late. The other is that he got in an argument with Parmenion. As I said before, Persepolis, Tyre, Thebes, and Gaza are remembered by the ones who hate Alexander and forget about what he stood for. Alexnader was nothing like Napoleon or Hitler. Read a little more history then make an opinion.
Your an ignoramus , and what's more an arrogant one at that. I wont give you an opinon or even a decent reply as I can see that it wont make any difference. As goes for reading history books , who are you to even put forth such a sugestion? As they say in Iran " Bale ede jemdeh !" translate that into English , then come back and talk to me about Persepolis. As they would say in Sao Paulo , " Pora voce e mais buro, que voce acho ". As they say in Paris France " T'est qu'un pauvre con".
You forget that before Ahmadenijad became president in Iran, that the Iranians loved Alexander. How can I put forth such a suggestion? Because I've done the same! I suggest reading Robin Lane Fox's book on Alexander, JFC Fuller's book, Lewis V. Cummings, Arrian, Plutarch, Theodore Aryault Dodge, and Joann Fletcher and Alan Fildes. Alexander really wasn't a bad guy.
It lasted a long time after Alexander. The Successors may have torn it up, but the legacy remained and they spread Greek culture throughout the Eastern and Western world. Much of what we know about Greece and Rome comes from the East. Alexander's empire was bigger then Cyrus' anyway lol.
you compare A.Hitler with N.Bonaparte?, you must be a little sick, Napoleon did many things to unite EUrope in a good way, Hitler shatered EUrope in pieces again
in my opinion, the single, most influential human to grace the earth....was worshiped as a god until 600a.d....was mythologized, well into the middle ages.....recent times have forgotten him, after all, this epoch has been the most ghastly, validating nietzsche's bold proclamation, "man is more ape than any ape"...
p.s - i have a tattoo of of Alexander that covers my left arm...
That said, it could be that the Macedonians considered the area in their hegemony, even if they didnt rule or govern it directly. Or, that the arabia region and italy were in their sphere of influence.
The etruscans, romans and other italian peoples may of just given an acknowledgement of the macedonian empire being the strongest empire and then signed treaties of peace and trade. Same goes for the arab regions with their tribal chieftains.
Southern Italy was made up of Greek cities I know. Maybe they considered it in the sphere of influence as you said. Alexander also planned on conquering Italy, Arabia, and Carthage.
greeks ruled already extra lands... not only what alexander conquered... for example north of black sea... parts of spain, french, north africa colonies, italy... and greco bactria kingdom
@Laelisha Alexander's mother was named Olympias not Olympia(a key difference in greek language) and was a member of the Molossoi tribe, a north-western greek tribe.And if that's not enough to convince you let me just add that the Illyrian language was totally different than the Greek(although the illyrians borrowed the greek alphabet, a fact known from illyrian inscriptions), so how come all those names Alexander, Phillip,Olympias are greek(which they are and if you want i can explain why)
material889 4 days ago
Alexander was half Macedon from his fathers side Philip(Filip) and half Illyrian (Albanian) mother Olympia(Olimbia) northern Albanian tribe.
Laelisha 1 month ago
so english was the main language in egypt at that time...
adamz1988 2 months ago
@adamz1988 so stupidity was the thing that made you grow?
TheLandOfTears 2 months ago
always hanging on his every word, no matter what he says
Deadmanfan4life 3 months ago
I'm still sad from the monologue, even if Ptolemy and his son sound almost identical. Alexander would be very proud, regardless of what the critiques said.
paulinethegreat1 7 months ago
Μέγας Αλέξανδρος
amazing scene!!! The truth is the the olny actors that they worth in this film were Anthony Hopkins & Angelina Jolie!!! Oliver Stone is idiot I didn't saw the life and the story of our King Alexander I saw only Colin's Farrell life sex,gay,drinker.Oliver Stone did not respect Alexander's name.
mariapassali 8 months ago
@mariapassali
Not at all,not at all. I'm Italian and I studied a lot over his figure and made ancient Greek studies. can assure you that to lie with men was nothing strange in antiquity.The women were seen in many case just like incubators due to make sons.The love within men was seen as a natural pure love and that makes them more and more modern than us. Film well made,not perfect,there're some historical mistakes but at least isn't like the horrible distorting film "Troy", an insult to myth.
Gi3uly 2 months ago
@Gi3uly you must be greek not Italian. This movie of course wasnt perfect.It will be perfect when all archives from Vatican Egypt Turkey England and some in Rome will reopen to reveal the truth about Illyrians today Albanians.But i know it wont happend.cause the truth hurts.
Laelisha 1 month ago
@Laelisha
I am italian.
Gi3uly 1 month ago
Now there is Greatest Monument of Alexander in Macedonia !
Uber0hrid 8 months ago
yes gr8 pharoh
pedroissler 11 months ago
I love the look on the scribes face when he said they killed him, I laughed.
northforge 1 year ago
I love the look on the scribe face when he said they killed him, I laughed.
northforge 1 year ago
One of the most emotional epilogues I've seen in a while. Anthony Hopkins did this brilliantly, and the soft music in the background enhances his words. One of his best moments on film, in my opinion.
JimmySteller 1 year ago
Bagoas disappeared from the history ENTIRELY? WTF??? Man, he was PTOLEMY´s slave, right after Alexander´s death! Ptolemy took him and was PROUD to have such a beautiful eunuch in his ownership. And he boasted about Bagoas´ beauty in front of visitors of his palace, when he was an old and almost deaf (as a pharaoh of Egypt). "See? That boy was Alexander´s most beautiful servant and lover!"
Calucifer13 1 year ago
'''''Megas Alexandros'' = 100% greek
AnTreAsx92 1 year ago
@AnTreAsx92 funny I thought he was from Tahiti..
kdum8 1 year ago
One of my faves movies!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
A shame that a copy of ptolemy's biography on Alexander didn't survive the centuries, would've been awesome if it did and give us a truer look at Alexander from the viewpoint of one of the men who fought beside him.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Anthony Hopkins was great as Ptolemy Soter.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
i read that Roxanna had Stateira thrown down a well of starving cannibals!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
@HistoryLover1550 Not quite. If I remember right, she just poisoned Stateira.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
The Ptolomies were a troubled royal family and murderous!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
@HistoryLover1550 Yes. Indeed. Ptolemy IV Philopater was excessively so!
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@Alexandros1294 Ikr!
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Too bad Alexander's son never lived to inherit his father's empire. History would've been forever different if he had.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Vangelis--- a modern day master -- another Wagner, Schubert ---
glakshmiratan 1 year ago
What did Pleotmey mean when he said Bogoad disspeared from the Histories entirely? that Boagoas went back to his village and got married or something? or went out from Persia? i didnt quite get thaty. Anyone plx explain.Thanks!!!!...
easynowww 2 years ago
He meant that Bagoas was never mentioned again.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
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sahajad 2 years ago
Ask from Ptolemy , obviously !
Anyway if you are referring to the statements made by the man in this video, it is not Ptolemy but Aristotal who is summing up of what had happened . What he menas is that After Alexander, Bagoas just sank into oblivion !
( Dsappeared from importance ! )
sahajad 2 years ago
@sahajad No, that is Ptolemy. Aristotle was one of the characters earlier in the movie. Ptolemy was the King of Egypt, and was narrating the entire movie.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Well that's one version of the story. The other version is that a drunken woman started the fire and Alexander tried to put it out but it was too late.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
seriously i found this to be the best scene of the whole film, its really good, and it explains some reality, and i totaly love Alexander idea of connecting all the people of the world in such early times, and Ghenghis Khan was not one of the greatest generals ever, but his army shurly was(they say there are 2 races who were rarely defeated in combat Mongols and Germanics) but Alexander the great, Hannibal Barkas, Pyrrhus of Epirus are the 3 best generals the world ever got to see
Umbrella0021 2 years ago 2
So true. I agree 100%
Atenejin 2 years ago
Pyrrhus wasn't all that great of a general. Epaminondas, and Philip II were better. Scipio was also better than Hannibal.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
no way Scipio Africanus Major was a better general then Hannibal Barkas, at the battle of Zama Carthage was betrayd by the Numidians wich marked their absolute doom, (later the Romans betrayd the Numidians, really badass since they could have never defeated Carthage without them) Scipio had only some small victorys in Spain against bad Carthaginian generals, and one false victory agains Hannibal(that was the only 1 time H.Barkas lost a battle), he resumed fighting Rome from Selucia and Armenia
Umbrella0021 2 years ago
Great movie! Great actors! Alexander the Greatest!
susak123 2 years ago
alexander wasnt a wimp he was a god king.he conquared whole persian empire in 8 years.what di genghis khan counquared in 8 years.
DAVID69260 2 years ago
Alexander the ' Great' destroyed Persepolis in ancient Persia ( Iran ) laid it to rubble , in my opinion he was no more then a war monger dictator basically three of histories freaks. 1/ Hitler, 2/ Napoleon and 3/ Alexander the non great !
MrChubbington 2 years ago
Lest we forget that Without Alexander, history would not have been the same. Alexander brought Hellenic Influence to te wold, and Eventually it Spread to Rome and Gave rise to the Republic, Then the Empire. Alexander Gave The World a sense of Culture
NoIdeaWhatYouMean 2 years ago
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MrChubbington 2 years ago
You should take a look on youtube under Shiraz peter Wheelers slide show . He explains a bit what Alexander did to persepolis , which at the time was capital of ancient Persia and was a couple of thousand years ahead in architecture , civilisation then what was happningin Greece. However, due to the bad reputaion of iran today this part of history has ben I would classify as hidden from the West. To conclude it's history and i believe a war monger such as Alexander wasn't great for humanity.
MrChubbington 2 years ago
No one's Perfect, but I'm not saying What Alexander did was right. What Alexander did was wrong, but His Other Achievements Towered over what he failed in. For the first time in history, Megas Alexandros united The World. He opened the gate for all that was to come. The Modern World is filled With Greek Influence in almos tevery aspect of our day to day lives. If Not for Alexander, the World would not be A better Place
NoIdeaWhatYouMean 2 years ago 2
What was wrong about what Alexander did? He wanted to unite the world and get rid of cultural prejudice... The sack of Thebes, the slaughter at Tyre, Gaza, and Multan are always remembered by the ones who hate Alexander and forget everything he stood for. At Thebes, the Macedonians didn't do the burning, it was the Boetians who had a score to settle. At Tyre, Alexander gave them the chance to surrender. At Multan, Alexander was shot in the lungs, he could barely breath.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
@NoIdeaWhatYouMean True! Alexander spread a wave of hellenistic civilization across the world. Hopefully his dream of a world united will finally be realized.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
Sorry Tony Wheeler not Peter Wheeler ( who was a 70's English rugby player! lol )friend of mine.
MrChubbington 2 years ago
All three are wimps compared to Genghis Khan.
markinu 2 years ago
Your measure of value is destruction? It is harder to construct then to destroy. Any idiot can do that, Genghis Khan was a master at destroying people, at war ,a little question what did he bring as goes for construction , culture and civilization etc? Thanks for the reply! lol
MrChubbington 2 years ago 5
Must be because the Mogols were nomadic.
markinu 2 years ago
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@MrChubbington ;suck my dick, Genghis Khan was a great coward.,in history if he had ever faced ALEXANDER THE GREAT ,Genghis Khan WOULD HAVE lost his dick also his empire and he himself would have died like great coward
albert72165 1 month ago
Not here to argue lol But Ghengis would have cried at the feet of Alexander
NoIdeaWhatYouMean 2 years ago
diabolo are called from old greek to the Mongols.
then diabolo means lie much, Mongols was say many lies, make many promis to asia persia when they fight against greek.
incite against greek, confuse the persia to fight for the eveil.
Thats the reason why Persia today are in poverty and pain.
But this sneaky Tricks from Turks/Mongos dosent fold anymore, it is over with jour.
sonofMegaAlexandros 2 years ago
There are two versions to the story of Persepolis. One was that a drunken woman started the fire and Alexander tried to put it out but it was too late. The other is that he got in an argument with Parmenion. As I said before, Persepolis, Tyre, Thebes, and Gaza are remembered by the ones who hate Alexander and forget about what he stood for. Alexnader was nothing like Napoleon or Hitler. Read a little more history then make an opinion.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
Your an ignoramus , and what's more an arrogant one at that. I wont give you an opinon or even a decent reply as I can see that it wont make any difference. As goes for reading history books , who are you to even put forth such a sugestion? As they say in Iran " Bale ede jemdeh !" translate that into English , then come back and talk to me about Persepolis. As they would say in Sao Paulo , " Pora voce e mais buro, que voce acho ". As they say in Paris France " T'est qu'un pauvre con".
MrChubbington 2 years ago
You forget that before Ahmadenijad became president in Iran, that the Iranians loved Alexander. How can I put forth such a suggestion? Because I've done the same! I suggest reading Robin Lane Fox's book on Alexander, JFC Fuller's book, Lewis V. Cummings, Arrian, Plutarch, Theodore Aryault Dodge, and Joann Fletcher and Alan Fildes. Alexander really wasn't a bad guy.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
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sahajad 2 years ago
It lasted a long time after Alexander. The Successors may have torn it up, but the legacy remained and they spread Greek culture throughout the Eastern and Western world. Much of what we know about Greece and Rome comes from the East. Alexander's empire was bigger then Cyrus' anyway lol.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
and also, I've talked to many Iranians that think Alexander was the best thing to happen to Persia.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
Must be the Iranian traitors, just like the Greek Merceneries who fought for the Persians against Alexander !
sahajad 2 years ago
I have to admit though, both Cyrus and Alexander deserve the name great! Cyrus was so awesome.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
you compare A.Hitler with N.Bonaparte?, you must be a little sick, Napoleon did many things to unite EUrope in a good way, Hitler shatered EUrope in pieces again
Umbrella0021 2 years ago
If Napoleon could have been a mass murderer like Hitler, he would have been.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
in my opinion, the single, most influential human to grace the earth....was worshiped as a god until 600a.d....was mythologized, well into the middle ages.....recent times have forgotten him, after all, this epoch has been the most ghastly, validating nietzsche's bold proclamation, "man is more ape than any ape"...
p.s - i have a tattoo of of Alexander that covers my left arm...
glakshmiratan 2 years ago
Great post!
xenu12 2 years ago
Awesome post! Thanks!
sljouzo12 2 years ago
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cripplehawk 2 years ago
the best scene form the movie!!! thnkx for the video!!!
siriusb2 2 years ago 2
Such a fine actor and man... carries every dialogue with absolute brilliance!
LemmyDecaution 2 years ago 15
That said, it could be that the Macedonians considered the area in their hegemony, even if they didnt rule or govern it directly. Or, that the arabia region and italy were in their sphere of influence.
The etruscans, romans and other italian peoples may of just given an acknowledgement of the macedonian empire being the strongest empire and then signed treaties of peace and trade. Same goes for the arab regions with their tribal chieftains.
BVargas78 2 years ago
Southern Italy was made up of Greek cities I know. Maybe they considered it in the sphere of influence as you said. Alexander also planned on conquering Italy, Arabia, and Carthage.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
greeks ruled already extra lands... not only what alexander conquered... for example north of black sea... parts of spain, french, north africa colonies, italy... and greco bactria kingdom
Epicomahos 2 years ago
Alexander conquered Bactria which formed the Greco Bactria Kingdom.
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
thank you...
alexanderwotl 2 years ago 2