I've got nothing against the KS engine as I am going to get a Rover 200 Vi myself at some point so I can do a Landrover Freelander H/Gasket swap so I can use it as a secondary car for some good-old British country road thrashing in a %100 British car. I am also getting a 20V Fiat Bravo HGT to tinker about with just for the sheer hell of it. I have a side-hobby for collecting old cheap but quick cars & tampering with them.
@Weepiest the 1.8 20V VAG only really suffered from coil-packs failing & they were prolific oil-drinkers by nature. They did not have typical headgasket problems. No other engine is comparable to a K-series engine when you are talking about failures. The K-series engine was the main reason why Lotuses were so rubbish & unreliable back in their day. A Lotus owner became used to entertaining kids with a torch & a Tartan blanket until the AA man arrived <- All thanks to the wonders of letters: K.
@1ns4ne1d10t so apart from hgf thats all you can find? the k series won awards mate, rubbish engines dont win awards. the k series was an innovation with its stretch bolt design. so what if it suffers hgf, once the mls is on its pretty much flawless in performance and reliability. i see you failed to mention the poor electrics on renaults, dodgy heads on citroens and crappy electrical gremlins on fiats! i dont think you know your k series history and are just repeating what you have heard!
The only time a K was ever reliable was when Honda got hold of it to mass-produce V-Tec engines for VTi's based on a K. In every other British car like Lotus, Rover, Landrover - it was crap so it didn't have a good history. Honda used the 1.6 & 1.8 K because it was the lightest engine in production which made it perfect for 3 cam-lobes on VVT. The reason why it was reliable in Honda was because they strengthened the con-rods, crankshaft etc to improve it. Oops, I'm not meant to know anything.
@1ns4ne1d10t the honda engine was no way related to the k! for a start it didnt use stretch bolts as the k did and the engine was completely different in the layout aswell. anyway fella, my point is this, im a rover enthusiast and your arguing with the wrong guy if you want to slag off rovers! and getting all immature with comments like ''oops im not meant to know anything'' is just plain stupid. anyway, im not wasting anymore time on some keyboard warrior so we will agree to disagree.
If you learn to read properly I said I'm going to get a Rover 200 Vi at some point just to tinker about with & swap the headgasket for a landrover freelander one. The non Vtec engines are nothing to do with Rover/MG, its only the Vtec engines which were based on a K-series. You are a Rover enthusiast? how sad! Rovers dead, wake up & smell the coffee. Well actually seeing as you accused me of slagging off Rovers when I said I'm getting a Vi says it all about your stupidity...
Sorry man, the K series Honda was Honda, the Rover K series was Rover, the i-VTEC K series was based on the Honda K series and not the Rover engine. The only similarity is the K series naming.
There is an inherent problem with the single layer gasket on the K16 engines though it would seem, I've known of a few fail but to live long lives if fitted with the MLS and put back together properly.
Whoops, thanks for clearing up that little misunderstanding. I always thought the K-series was a K. I didn't think one 'K' was Honda & one 'K' was Rovers?
@1ns4ne1d10t YOU are the stupid one!!!! the Variable Valve K series were a Rover development of the ROVER K series engine.... you big headed thick cunt!
@monkeyboy27476 "Rover K series engine"... Hang on, That stretched bolt K series engine was developed and designed by Lotus, it wasn't designed by Rover. Rover couldn't spread butter on toast let alone make an engine, I think you'd better call yourself a "big headed thick cunt" don't you? And I knew that the VVC was a K series engine you great pratt.
Renaults were an absolute electrical nightmare with everything closely followed by Fiat which had pretty poor electrics with motors & switches but not quite as bad as Renault. The HGF is not the only thing I can find, parts of the inlet manifold on a K had plastic parts inside which gaskets blew through easily & manifolds always got holes, the gearboxes were Peugeot, it was made in Longbridge with a sloppy English workforce with hangovers nearly everyday of the week so what more can I say?
@monkeyboy27476 Its laughable how you can't elaborate on how they are 'poorly' designed and 'shit' they are, bearing in mind that German cars were never a joke like Rovers are, you are just some bitter little child who can't afford jack-shit for peanuts and stuck with an abysmal shitty little Rover, Boy do I feel sorry for you.
@davhall500 they also blow on alot of other cars aswell. audi a4's with the 1.8 lump suffer bad and some other brands. its just word of mouth really, ive had 18 rovers and not one has had any hgf. . to be fair its good if it does go because you can then upgrade to the mls lotus gasket set developed by landrover.
@Weepiest Audi A4's with the 1.8 do not "suffer badly" with headgasket failures you spanner. The worst failures 1.8 litre engines in VAG get is coil pack failures and the biggest fault of the 20V's is oil drinking. Even then it only costs £35-60 at the most to replace them as they are plug-ins, your alleged "word of mouth" is very wrong.
I had a Vi, the head gasket blew twice, second time due to it not being fitted properly (under warranty) the first time. I had it serviced regularly and never hit the rev limiter or overly thrashed it, just drove it the way it was intended to be driven. I loved the car but i'd never buy another one.
land rover used them on there vvc engines, along with a reinforved (something) ladder to go at the bottom (i forgot what it was called). it is more reliable by a long shot
Actually its because the thermostat gets the return flow from the radiator. This contains cooled coolent which hits the thermostat and makes it shut. The engine then starts to overheat, and suddenly the themostat opens, this lets cool water flow into the hot engine which shocks the headgasket. The headgasket takes this for a while before letting go. The landrover has a new MLS gasket to cure this
Ok then? I'm trying to explain something to you theres no need to dismiss what i'm saying. Especially when i'm right and your wrong. Believe me the power doesn't drop off at 5000rpm.
@cju200 No they don't!! They blow because the engine was designed with certain faults, those faults weren't fixed because Rover management were fucking idiots and didn't allow changes to be made. The K series was a good engine apart from the HGF issue though. HGF occurs on well maintained engines just as much as "thrashed" ones....
I've got nothing against the KS engine as I am going to get a Rover 200 Vi myself at some point so I can do a Landrover Freelander H/Gasket swap so I can use it as a secondary car for some good-old British country road thrashing in a %100 British car. I am also getting a 20V Fiat Bravo HGT to tinker about with just for the sheer hell of it. I have a side-hobby for collecting old cheap but quick cars & tampering with them.
1ns4ne1d10t 2 years ago
@Weepiest the 1.8 20V VAG only really suffered from coil-packs failing & they were prolific oil-drinkers by nature. They did not have typical headgasket problems. No other engine is comparable to a K-series engine when you are talking about failures. The K-series engine was the main reason why Lotuses were so rubbish & unreliable back in their day. A Lotus owner became used to entertaining kids with a torch & a Tartan blanket until the AA man arrived <- All thanks to the wonders of letters: K.
1ns4ne1d10t 2 years ago
@1ns4ne1d10t so apart from hgf thats all you can find? the k series won awards mate, rubbish engines dont win awards. the k series was an innovation with its stretch bolt design. so what if it suffers hgf, once the mls is on its pretty much flawless in performance and reliability. i see you failed to mention the poor electrics on renaults, dodgy heads on citroens and crappy electrical gremlins on fiats! i dont think you know your k series history and are just repeating what you have heard!
Weepiest 2 years ago
The only time a K was ever reliable was when Honda got hold of it to mass-produce V-Tec engines for VTi's based on a K. In every other British car like Lotus, Rover, Landrover - it was crap so it didn't have a good history. Honda used the 1.6 & 1.8 K because it was the lightest engine in production which made it perfect for 3 cam-lobes on VVT. The reason why it was reliable in Honda was because they strengthened the con-rods, crankshaft etc to improve it. Oops, I'm not meant to know anything.
1ns4ne1d10t 2 years ago
@1ns4ne1d10t the honda engine was no way related to the k! for a start it didnt use stretch bolts as the k did and the engine was completely different in the layout aswell. anyway fella, my point is this, im a rover enthusiast and your arguing with the wrong guy if you want to slag off rovers! and getting all immature with comments like ''oops im not meant to know anything'' is just plain stupid. anyway, im not wasting anymore time on some keyboard warrior so we will agree to disagree.
Weepiest 2 years ago
If you learn to read properly I said I'm going to get a Rover 200 Vi at some point just to tinker about with & swap the headgasket for a landrover freelander one. The non Vtec engines are nothing to do with Rover/MG, its only the Vtec engines which were based on a K-series. You are a Rover enthusiast? how sad! Rovers dead, wake up & smell the coffee. Well actually seeing as you accused me of slagging off Rovers when I said I'm getting a Vi says it all about your stupidity...
1ns4ne1d10t 2 years ago
Sorry man, the K series Honda was Honda, the Rover K series was Rover, the i-VTEC K series was based on the Honda K series and not the Rover engine. The only similarity is the K series naming.
There is an inherent problem with the single layer gasket on the K16 engines though it would seem, I've known of a few fail but to live long lives if fitted with the MLS and put back together properly.
charlieflint 1 year ago
Whoops, thanks for clearing up that little misunderstanding. I always thought the K-series was a K. I didn't think one 'K' was Honda & one 'K' was Rovers?
1ns4ne1d10t 1 year ago
@1ns4ne1d10t YOU are the stupid one!!!! the Variable Valve K series were a Rover development of the ROVER K series engine.... you big headed thick cunt!
monkeyboy27476 1 year ago
@monkeyboy27476 "Rover K series engine"... Hang on, That stretched bolt K series engine was developed and designed by Lotus, it wasn't designed by Rover. Rover couldn't spread butter on toast let alone make an engine, I think you'd better call yourself a "big headed thick cunt" don't you? And I knew that the VVC was a K series engine you great pratt.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 year ago
Renaults were an absolute electrical nightmare with everything closely followed by Fiat which had pretty poor electrics with motors & switches but not quite as bad as Renault. The HGF is not the only thing I can find, parts of the inlet manifold on a K had plastic parts inside which gaskets blew through easily & manifolds always got holes, the gearboxes were Peugeot, it was made in Longbridge with a sloppy English workforce with hangovers nearly everyday of the week so what more can I say?
1ns4ne1d10t 2 years ago
@1ns4ne1d10t VAG engines are shit, poorly designed and made. like all german stuff...
monkeyboy27476 1 year ago
@monkeyboy27476 Its laughable how you can't elaborate on how they are 'poorly' designed and 'shit' they are, bearing in mind that German cars were never a joke like Rovers are, you are just some bitter little child who can't afford jack-shit for peanuts and stuck with an abysmal shitty little Rover, Boy do I feel sorry for you.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 year ago
k series head gaskets blow on all rovers, not just this.
i had a vi, great car, very quick, well it felt quick.
davhall500 2 years ago
@davhall500 they also blow on alot of other cars aswell. audi a4's with the 1.8 lump suffer bad and some other brands. its just word of mouth really, ive had 18 rovers and not one has had any hgf. . to be fair its good if it does go because you can then upgrade to the mls lotus gasket set developed by landrover.
Weepiest 2 years ago
@Weepiest Audi A4's with the 1.8 do not "suffer badly" with headgasket failures you spanner. The worst failures 1.8 litre engines in VAG get is coil pack failures and the biggest fault of the 20V's is oil drinking. Even then it only costs £35-60 at the most to replace them as they are plug-ins, your alleged "word of mouth" is very wrong.
1ns4ne1d10t 1 year ago
che bei ricordi... ce l'avevo anch'io la 200vi poi un cretino me l'ha distrutta!!! la 2° e la 3° erano da urlo dopo i 5000 giri!
zfrankino81 2 years ago
I had a Vi, the head gasket blew twice, second time due to it not being fitted properly (under warranty) the first time. I had it serviced regularly and never hit the rev limiter or overly thrashed it, just drove it the way it was intended to be driven. I loved the car but i'd never buy another one.
richandiben 3 years ago
land rover used them on there vvc engines, along with a reinforved (something) ladder to go at the bottom (i forgot what it was called). it is more reliable by a long shot
scheizzerkopf 3 years ago
Actually its because the thermostat gets the return flow from the radiator. This contains cooled coolent which hits the thermostat and makes it shut. The engine then starts to overheat, and suddenly the themostat opens, this lets cool water flow into the hot engine which shocks the headgasket. The headgasket takes this for a while before letting go. The landrover has a new MLS gasket to cure this
cju200 3 years ago
@cju200
i was told the head gaskets on k's are weak is because the design of the head bolts, they are damn long.
davhall500 2 years ago
reminds me of my 1st car a rover 200 vi with a chip=p,was awesome until the head blew off
tony458002 3 years ago
Its not actually that much faster taking it all the way to the redline, power starts to trail off a bit, and it just wears the engine out quicker!
Kizza737 4 years ago 2
Exactly. Something 'liaaam1234' cannot seem to understand.
schuey2007 4 years ago
Your having a laugh arent you? The k-series vvc develops peak power near the redline at 7000rpm
gamesman12 4 years ago
well whats the point showing a video of this if your just gunna change gear at 6 thousands revs. so dont try and say its dumb.
liaaam1234 4 years ago
hehe k series vvc, love these motors, 78mph in second gear, do that in ya corsa lol
jernjackson 4 years ago 2
if ur gunna kaine it mate use the red line thats wot its there for
liaaam1234 4 years ago
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, liaaam1234.
schuey2007 4 years ago 2
The redline is there to stop you from wrecking the engine - And The power would of trailed off at around 5000,5500 rpm.
So the engine would wear out more quickly
573W1E6R1FF1N 3 years ago
The power definitely doesn't drop off there, the vvc mechs deliver power upto the limiter. Even the 1.4k doesn't loose power until about 6000rpm.
swlsy123 3 years ago
Ok then...........
573W1E6R1FF1N 3 years ago
Ok then? I'm trying to explain something to you theres no need to dismiss what i'm saying. Especially when i'm right and your wrong. Believe me the power doesn't drop off at 5000rpm.
swlsy123 3 years ago
Im not dissing you man - Ive never even looked at the tech specs for a Rover 200vi (Even though im a rover fan xD)
573W1E6R1FF1N 3 years ago
lol. The power comes in betwenn 4-5 and ends at the limiter. maximum kick is somewhere around 6.5
LocostSam 3 years ago
ahahahahaha HEADGASKET!
OuijaB0ard 4 years ago
Shut it, dickhead.
charlieflint 4 years ago
ahahahahahah fuel injection rovers 1989 others carberators rover rule
hamster639 4 years ago
ahahahahahah fuel injection rovers 1989 others carberators rover rule
hamster639 4 years ago
Headgaskets only blow if the engine is thrashed and not maintained
cju200 3 years ago 3
@cju200 No they don't!! They blow because the engine was designed with certain faults, those faults weren't fixed because Rover management were fucking idiots and didn't allow changes to be made. The K series was a good engine apart from the HGF issue though. HGF occurs on well maintained engines just as much as "thrashed" ones....
monkeyboy27476 1 year ago
@cju200
not true, i know the 1.4 k series engines blow their heads as well, it is a common fault.
chris99140 1 year ago 3