hey eric i got a upy 2701 for christmas and it didnt come with the flappy smokestacks, they dont want to go in the hole all the way, the third smokestack doesnt smoke as much as the others, and the pop-off cab roof, the roof can come off but when you put it back on the lights dont work until 5 minutes of adjusting it. can you please help me out and give me some advice? please respond, thank you
My my man, The real-life Gensets DO NOT have any Safety-Thread on their decks! Well aren't you well enough relaxed?! Well so am I doc! :P I just searched on Google Images, to have some mercy for you dude! You're a really good friend, Eric! and that's why I helped you out! :) Today I went to Talbot's Toyland in San Mateo (CA), not (Georgia, in your state - don't get confused) You REALLY HELPED me out! Man, I was just like: S***! IS IT THAT HHHHHEEEEEAAAAAVVVVVYYYYY?????!!!!! But, I'm buying it!
@slimjimandpepsi - Yes they are different Lionel stripped many features from them I sa one at a place and man there not worth even $600 in my opinion!
eric, is the lionel vision line gensets(up and norfolk southern)different from lionel's other gensets, let me know because im thinking of getting one.
Now finally any manufacture of model trains install an individual sound: It's the E-bell! From Lionel! - BTW the horn is kinda strange to me, but the horn is really nice. :)
@esiegel76 Yep. A good number of the new locos out on the rails today have an e-bell. There are quite a few of the new ones though, that still have a legit bell on them.
Eric, I really need your help! Who's heavier? The ES44AC Hybrid or the normal ES44AC? The Genset Switcher or the ES44AC? Is it heavier than a GP-38-2?
And I have a slightly modified layou from the fastrack book? That has a grade on it my layout uses 0-36 and 0-48 curves. The hill uses all the pieces from the fastrack graduated trestle.
@littleevan99 I don't know. According to the specifications on the box, the answer would be no. In reality, however, it may run on O-36. I wouldn't spend the money until you're sure.
yes i want one! lol too bad its O gauge...I only have HO >T3T< I wanna up to O...and i will soon...with the train set my grandfather had...its OLLLDD....might need work to get to TCC or Legacy control. I don't know what engines he had with it either or if they are in running condition....ohh these are drool worthy
O, wow...you got BOTH of them!! You da man, Eric. I experimented with mine to see how many cars it would pull up my incline on my main line....it couldn't pull more than 20 cars all the way through...but since I'm a smoke unit fanatic, its still a great looking engine that will be just fine in my railyard.
The sound of the diesel stack lid coming down when you throttle down is DEFINITELY amazing!
O, wow...you got BOTH of them!! You da man, Eric. I experimented with mine to see how many cars it would pull up my incline on my main line....it couldn't pull more than 20 cars all the way through...but since I'm a smoke unit fanatic, its still a great looking engine that will be just fine in my railyard.
the safety treads are put on by the engineers if they want them the ones that stop at the ethanol plant dont have them a lot even tho the do have diamond steel floor there
@atsf3415dbr Yeah, it's hard to do more than one scale at a time. I dabble in Standard Gauge and G Gauge, but I pretty much focus all my attention on O because I don't have enough money to do much more than that.
Hi Eric. I'm making an o scale railroad and want some nicely detailed engines. the only problem is that I don't have tons of money to spend on trains. :( So, my question is, which do you think is better with detail and better for cost: Lionel Vision Line or MTH Premier? Any suggestions would be great.
@TrainBrain9 their both nice for detail mth premier and lionel vision line have the same amount of detail but vision line has a little more detail but most vision line is up in the 1000-2000$ range for starting id go with mth premier
Cool video Eric, I want one.. but have to wait, just got the U.P. 4-8-8-4 Big Boy #4011 keeping fingers crossed... next on the list... keep the video's coming... great job !!
I noticed in one of your earlier comments...you noted you had ordered the new vision line Challenger. Any ideas when they are supposed to start arriving at stores?
Hi again Eric, I wanted to add that I tested my NS Genset to see if it would negotiate O36 curves, it does. In my review I stated that the genset could not pull freight around O36 curves, but that isn't entirely wrong. I've found that the right kind of rolling stock that has a wider swinging coupler can be pulled around O36's. I even called Lionel to ask if it was going to possibly break something, they said no but you may have derailments. This is important for poeple with tighter curves.
@PghTrainFanatic Yeah, I saw your review. Sounds like running it on O36 is possible, but there's a potential for problems. I wouldn't feel comfortable telling someone with O36 or smaller to buy this engine as there are potential issues like the ones you described. That's a lot of money to spend just to have derailments and other issues and I wouldn't want someone saying "hey, Eric said this thing would run great on O36!". I don't want to take the blame. :)
@esiegel76 I don't blame you, and that is a good point. You don't want the finger pointed at you if something goes wrong. By the way I was viewing your website for the first time last night and its really nice! I can tell you have spent a lot of time and effort with it. Great work Eric! I can't wait to see your BNSF Ice cold express you have on order! It should be in by the end of December!
Thank you so much for taking the time to review your collection items. I love Lionel and Atlas O Products, and I find your reviews helpful, enjoyable, and most of all, informative, helping me decide what products I might choose to purchase next from these two given companies. However, as a side note, the NS Genset has a major detail flaw in that the Horsehead on the nose is backwards, as if it is a mirror image. I apologize if that has been covered in the video, as I only watched some of it.
That was a awesome review!! I agree The Vision Line products are the best on the market!! Did you notice that the NS genset did not have a cardboard box around the inside Vision Line box like the UPY?
@aocruiser Hello there Mr. cruiser (lol).... I can tell you that I believe you are right. the NS Genset did not have a second brown box on the inside. Its a nice meeting you here! haha
Nice review Eric! Those genset switchers by Lionel are great. I am saving up right now for the Lionel 460 E6 Atlantic. It has the vision steam whistle. Anyways, the technology in those engines is absolutely awesome! I love the way it sounds and the smoke like you said, is really cool. I have heard about people having problems with their power supplies not having enough volts to run the three smoke units. Have you had that problem? Also, I don't think they have safety tread on the walkways.
I'm proud to also be an owner of the NS 300! These engines are so nice, and in person they are even better. Your review was fantastic Eric! You are truly a master at making these videos! I fav'ed this one my friend. Have fun with those awesome switchers! :-)
@qmtrains WHAT!!!!!!!! I can get one that works on 0-36 then!
littleevan99 1 month ago
@slimjimandpepsi You did? Cool I go there all the time for trains huge store nice people.
littleevan99 1 month ago
hey eric i got a upy 2701 for christmas and it didnt come with the flappy smokestacks, they dont want to go in the hole all the way, the third smokestack doesnt smoke as much as the others, and the pop-off cab roof, the roof can come off but when you put it back on the lights dont work until 5 minutes of adjusting it. can you please help me out and give me some advice? please respond, thank you
slimjimandpepsi 1 month ago
@slimjimandpepsi If it's not working right, send it in to Lionel for service.
esiegel76 1 month ago
@esiegel76 i orderd it from the western depot. do you get stuff from there? do you know why it didnt come with the flappy smokestacks?
slimjimandpepsi 1 month ago
the genset is a gp(general purpose) style locomotive wich means both swicher/mainline locomotive
duffy1285 2 months ago
It can run on o-27 but can't pull around it it pulls the first car off the track
qmtrains 3 months ago
I asked my friend (employee in the hobbie store) and he said it CAN RUN ON: 0-27!!!!! :)))))
james1234434 4 months ago
My my man, The real-life Gensets DO NOT have any Safety-Thread on their decks! Well aren't you well enough relaxed?! Well so am I doc! :P I just searched on Google Images, to have some mercy for you dude! You're a really good friend, Eric! and that's why I helped you out! :) Today I went to Talbot's Toyland in San Mateo (CA), not (Georgia, in your state - don't get confused) You REALLY HELPED me out! Man, I was just like: S***! IS IT THAT HHHHHEEEEEAAAAAVVVVVYYYYY?????!!!!! But, I'm buying it!
james1234434 4 months ago
@slimjimandpepsi - Yes they are different Lionel stripped many features from them I sa one at a place and man there not worth even $600 in my opinion!
littleevan99 4 months ago
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littleevan99 4 months ago
eric, is the lionel vision line gensets(up and norfolk southern)different from lionel's other gensets, let me know because im thinking of getting one.
slimjimandpepsi 4 months ago
Now finally any manufacture of model trains install an individual sound: It's the E-bell! From Lionel! - BTW the horn is kinda strange to me, but the horn is really nice. :)
james1234434 5 months ago
Eric, I've never heard of a Lionel train with an e-bell before. I don't really like that sound, but what's an e-bell?
TheGordon4 7 months ago
@TheGordon4 I don't recall saying anything about an "e-bell". What are referring to?
esiegel76 7 months ago
@esiegel76 I meant the sounds on your engine.
TheGordon4 7 months ago
@TheGordon4 I'm not sure what you're talking about, but yes, the engine has a bell sound that you can activate if you want.
esiegel76 7 months ago
@esiegel76 The e-bell is what we're hearing on fairly recent diesels. Instead of an actual bell, they have a speaker
amtrak101 7 months ago
@amtrak101 Oh, are you talking about on real life diesels? They just have a speaker these days instead of a real bell?
esiegel76 7 months ago
@esiegel76 Yep. A good number of the new locos out on the rails today have an e-bell. There are quite a few of the new ones though, that still have a legit bell on them.
amtrak101 7 months ago
@esiegel76 yep
duffy1285 2 months ago
Ahhhh iPhones more like iPhowned I ment to say Lionel said it wood but with sum derailments like cars I have six heavy cars so no problem!
littleevan99 7 months ago
Well I am getting one I asked Lionep
littleevan99 7 months ago
Eric, I really need your help! Who's heavier? The ES44AC Hybrid or the normal ES44AC? The Genset Switcher or the ES44AC? Is it heavier than a GP-38-2?
james1234434 7 months ago
@james1234434 Are you talking about the models or the real life engines?
esiegel76 7 months ago
@esiegel76 I'm talking about the models.
james1234434 5 months ago
@esiegel76 I have a CP GP38-2 Diesel. (Red plastic body). :/ NOT METAL!!! JUST LIKE HOW THOSE SWITCHERS ARE DIE-CAST METAL!
james1234434 5 months ago
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james1234434 7 months ago
Well in the future I would upgrade my curve anyway. But I mite get one still get one regardless.....
littleevan99 8 months ago
Please respond this may decide the fate of my next purchase!
littleevan99 8 months ago
And I have a slightly modified layou from the fastrack book? That has a grade on it my layout uses 0-36 and 0-48 curves. The hill uses all the pieces from the fastrack graduated trestle.
littleevan99 8 months ago
By any chance could I get this to negotiate 0-36?
littleevan99 8 months ago
@littleevan99 I don't know. According to the specifications on the box, the answer would be no. In reality, however, it may run on O-36. I wouldn't spend the money until you're sure.
esiegel76 8 months ago
6:31, Thats really smart of them.
ColinTheAwesomest 8 months ago
no they do not have the safvey tread on them not on the side
Trainsmaster20032001 9 months ago
Hello Eric, are you going to buy the MTH Premier line version and do a comparison/review between the two? That would be really cool.
KingofTomedy 1 year ago
@KingofTomedy Yes to both questions, although the MTH version won't hold a candle to the Vision Line version.
esiegel76 1 year ago
o-36 sorry
The43noah 1 year ago
i want one but i got lionel o-31 curves
The43noah 1 year ago
yes i want one! lol too bad its O gauge...I only have HO >T3T< I wanna up to O...and i will soon...with the train set my grandfather had...its OLLLDD....might need work to get to TCC or Legacy control. I don't know what engines he had with it either or if they are in running condition....ohh these are drool worthy
toboe399 1 year ago
O, wow...you got BOTH of them!! You da man, Eric. I experimented with mine to see how many cars it would pull up my incline on my main line....it couldn't pull more than 20 cars all the way through...but since I'm a smoke unit fanatic, its still a great looking engine that will be just fine in my railyard.
The sound of the diesel stack lid coming down when you throttle down is DEFINITELY amazing!
Broncort1 1 year ago
O, wow...you got BOTH of them!! You da man, Eric. I experimented with mine to see how many cars it would pull up my incline on my main line....it couldn't pull more than 20 cars all the way through...but since I'm a smoke unit fanatic, its still a great looking engine that will be just fine in my railyard.
Broncort1 1 year ago
Eric, did you realize the Stallion on the front is backwards! Also the stripes are wrong!
TheLionelKid 1 year ago 5
@TheLionelKid Yes, I know that.
esiegel76 1 year ago
the safety treads are put on by the engineers if they want them the ones that stop at the ethanol plant dont have them a lot even tho the do have diamond steel floor there
homfri111 1 year ago
I'm trying to choose an engine to buy. My two candidates are the Genset and the CP 4-6-0. Man, this is gonna be a tough decision!
atsf3415dbr 1 year ago
@atsf3415dbr Get both. Layaway is a great thing.
esiegel76 1 year ago
@esiegel76 Don't have enough money for both, considering that I have to spend money on an HO layout, a new O gauge layout, and a Legacy system.
atsf3415dbr 1 year ago
@atsf3415dbr Yeah, it's hard to do more than one scale at a time. I dabble in Standard Gauge and G Gauge, but I pretty much focus all my attention on O because I don't have enough money to do much more than that.
esiegel76 1 year ago
@esiegel76 i got O and HO
The43noah 1 year ago
Hi Eric. I'm making an o scale railroad and want some nicely detailed engines. the only problem is that I don't have tons of money to spend on trains. :( So, my question is, which do you think is better with detail and better for cost: Lionel Vision Line or MTH Premier? Any suggestions would be great.
Great review. Those engines are cool.
TrainBrain9 1 year ago
@TrainBrain9 MTH gives you more for your money. If you're tight on money, I'd go with MTH.
esiegel76 1 year ago
@TrainBrain9 their both nice for detail mth premier and lionel vision line have the same amount of detail but vision line has a little more detail but most vision line is up in the 1000-2000$ range for starting id go with mth premier
misterownage1 1 year ago
Cool video Eric, I want one.. but have to wait, just got the U.P. 4-8-8-4 Big Boy #4011 keeping fingers crossed... next on the list... keep the video's coming... great job !!
lionellance 1 year ago
Eric,
I noticed in one of your earlier comments...you noted you had ordered the new vision line Challenger. Any ideas when they are supposed to start arriving at stores?
Great review!
mjc6184 1 year ago
@mjc6184 Their site says December 2010.
esiegel76 1 year ago
Hi Eric, I just watched a video of an Amtrak Genset, and judging from the sheen on the walkways I would say the do not have safety tread (Anti skid).
DJW701 1 year ago
that lid is called a rain cap
duffy1285 1 year ago
No i ment a new one just make it only 4 min. And can you do it tomorrow please respond?
trainfann1 1 year ago
@trainfann1 I already did.
esiegel76 1 year ago
Hi again Eric, I wanted to add that I tested my NS Genset to see if it would negotiate O36 curves, it does. In my review I stated that the genset could not pull freight around O36 curves, but that isn't entirely wrong. I've found that the right kind of rolling stock that has a wider swinging coupler can be pulled around O36's. I even called Lionel to ask if it was going to possibly break something, they said no but you may have derailments. This is important for poeple with tighter curves.
PghTrainFanatic 1 year ago
@PghTrainFanatic Yeah, I saw your review. Sounds like running it on O36 is possible, but there's a potential for problems. I wouldn't feel comfortable telling someone with O36 or smaller to buy this engine as there are potential issues like the ones you described. That's a lot of money to spend just to have derailments and other issues and I wouldn't want someone saying "hey, Eric said this thing would run great on O36!". I don't want to take the blame. :)
esiegel76 1 year ago
@esiegel76 I don't blame you, and that is a good point. You don't want the finger pointed at you if something goes wrong. By the way I was viewing your website for the first time last night and its really nice! I can tell you have spent a lot of time and effort with it. Great work Eric! I can't wait to see your BNSF Ice cold express you have on order! It should be in by the end of December!
PghTrainFanatic 1 year ago
when urs next update vid for ur layout
wilbur265 1 year ago
@wilbur265 I just made one a couple weeks ago. Wont' have another until probably January or so.
esiegel76 1 year ago
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trainfann1 1 year ago
Hey tomorrow can u make a video of the hudson (if u have time) because i really want to see it please respond?
trainfann1 1 year ago
@trainfann1 The Vision Line Hudson? Did that ship already? I didn't order one. The only vision line steamer I've ordered is the UP Challenger.
esiegel76 1 year ago
i herd that the real gensets put out as much black smokes as a steam engine,
Sweet model
TrainGuy18 1 year ago
Very nice! although keep up the work on the layout!
forhobbesfans 1 year ago
Thank you so much for taking the time to review your collection items. I love Lionel and Atlas O Products, and I find your reviews helpful, enjoyable, and most of all, informative, helping me decide what products I might choose to purchase next from these two given companies. However, as a side note, the NS Genset has a major detail flaw in that the Horsehead on the nose is backwards, as if it is a mirror image. I apologize if that has been covered in the video, as I only watched some of it.
gvtfan 1 year ago
@gvtfan I hadn't even noticed that, but you're right. Well, nobody's perfect.
esiegel76 1 year ago
Very cool. How many hours average do you get of running a locomotive until the smoke juice is gone and you have to replace it?
santoro2020 1 year ago
@santoro2020 I've never timed it, but it'll last for a good while.
esiegel76 1 year ago
awesome review dude! yea these things are beast! ur the first to show me how the smoke works! great job Eric!
Southerntreatment 1 year ago
Eric,
That was a awesome review!! I agree The Vision Line products are the best on the market!! Did you notice that the NS genset did not have a cardboard box around the inside Vision Line box like the UPY?
aocruiser 1 year ago
@aocruiser Hello there Mr. cruiser (lol).... I can tell you that I believe you are right. the NS Genset did not have a second brown box on the inside. Its a nice meeting you here! haha
PghTrainFanatic 1 year ago
Great review Eric, they are Lionels best right now!
GEOMIMI89 1 year ago
Awesome switcher to run. What about the MTH Geneset?
Trainmaster189 1 year ago
@Trainmaster189 The MTH Gensets have not shipped yet.
esiegel76 1 year ago
@esiegel76 , It will not come in until after December but, are you still going to review it?
Trainmaster189 1 year ago
@Trainmaster189 Yes, I will review MTH's gensets when they arrive.
esiegel76 1 year ago
@esiegel76 MTH have Gensets? Dang, Lionel would be better though. Great choice!
CookiesAndGuns95 1 year ago
MTH has a Genset as well and they are shipping in April, 2011.
Unlike the Lionel Genset, the MTH has 2 motors and is able to pull more than 5 cars up a grade.
The downside to the MTH line is that the cab is less detailed. Also there is only 1 smoke unit per engine.
The upside is the $200 price difference.
Either way, both models are going to be nice to add to the collection.
KBurkitt2 1 year ago 2
@KBurkitt2 Yes, I've ordered several of the MTH gensets.
esiegel76 1 year ago
Cool.
It is going to be interesting to see how they compare.
KBurkitt2 1 year ago
@esiegel76 No problem I sent you a PM about them so you could see for yourself.
Bassfanatic94 1 year ago
I will PM you about the genset details!
Bassfanatic94 1 year ago
Nice review Eric! Those genset switchers by Lionel are great. I am saving up right now for the Lionel 460 E6 Atlantic. It has the vision steam whistle. Anyways, the technology in those engines is absolutely awesome! I love the way it sounds and the smoke like you said, is really cool. I have heard about people having problems with their power supplies not having enough volts to run the three smoke units. Have you had that problem? Also, I don't think they have safety tread on the walkways.
Bassfanatic94 1 year ago
@Bassfanatic94 I haven't had any power problems, but then again I'm running 4 180W powerhouse transformers. Good to know about the walkways.
esiegel76 1 year ago
WOW great engines and great reveiw!
RandN425 1 year ago
I'm proud to also be an owner of the NS 300! These engines are so nice, and in person they are even better. Your review was fantastic Eric! You are truly a master at making these videos! I fav'ed this one my friend. Have fun with those awesome switchers! :-)
PghTrainFanatic 1 year ago