Cream - Sunshine of Your Love - Live Early Prototype

[Elmalab]

this sounds a little bit like "in the garden of eden" doesnt it?

[designermite]

tis nice

[MrVicioussss]

First hard rock riff ever recorded was arguably Beck's Bolero.

[carlosesperanzo]

If anyone thinks Green Day is a member of the elite power trio club like Cream,Rush or ZZ Top or the great Hendrix Experience that means you don`t have any clue of real music or real rock and roll music because Green Day sucks!!!

[yearginclarke]

@carlosesperanzo Green Day is allright, just nothing like vintage rock and metal.(my favorite)

[drockkclapton]

A beautiful piece of music history. This is what Sunshine would have sounded like if it were on Fresh Cream. The three of them hadn't quite felt each other's styles out at the time, but it was obvious that there was something there.

[sacpelicancom]

OMG a the first sound of the guitare i added it in my favorite !!!

[bluesriot2]

yes it was directed at generic george, sorry for the confusion. and @ metar93, of course, Jimi, i am wearing a Jimi tie-die as I write this, and although i'm familiar with Guy when he was with Junior Wells, he is not primarily known as the frontman of a power trio, but he is still one of the elite axemen of all time

[GaryStuartKing]

bluesriot2 - WTF are you talking about? You may be confusing me with another person here. I actually thought Eric WAS god. He was my mentor on guitar for YEARS. I learned and played Crossroads thousands of times. Dude, I'll forget the harsh comments you made towards me with the belief that you misdirected them to someone else.

[bluesriot2]

Eric "Slowhand" Clapton ,Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce, very few trios ever even came close to this energy level and sound output, Maybe ZZ Top, some say Rush, and who else?

[metart93]

@bluesriot2

The Jimi Hendrix Experience? and any trio the Buddy Guy was ever a part of haha (Buddy's trio's were the inspiration behind Eric wanting to form a trio with Cream when Ginger asked him if he'd like to form a a band together)

[mcleanartists]

@bluesriot2 Jimi Hendrix Experience, Band of Gypsys, Rory Gallagher, Chicken Shack, Robin Trower, Mahogany Rush, Johnny Winter, Cactus (plus one lead singer)...

[bluesriot2]

@mcleanartists hey guys, what i meant is trios that achieved the kind of recognition that cream and ZZ did, but thanks for all the feedback , have to admit, I didn't know Robin or Rory were trios, but I knew they were awesome! Hafta look up Chicken Shack, first I heard of them,,,

[NormanLake1]

@bluesriot2 The Grande Ballroom, with MC5 'opening' for their first tour, in '68, I believe. Talk about energy (MC 5) that is ! Then comes Cream....

[bluesriot2]

@NormanLake1 somedays ya just gotta admit, it doesn't suck being a music fan !!! MC5 and then Cream, well you know wha they say, wish i was there

[NormanLake1]

@bluesriot2 I was fortunate to have hung out at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit in the day. MC5 was the 'house' band, and they felt it necessary to 'lean' on bands coming into 'our' house, and that made for some great battles (of the bands) Eric Clapton later said the Five were "insolent". Detroit in a rock and roll nutshell. Glad to see Rory getting his props.

[genericgeorge]

Clapton's solo sounds a lot like the farewell gig - Unstructured. Mind you it aint easy to solo when there's no anchor. Baker is off on a tangent unlike the studio version where he plays it simple and straight on the 1& 3. Baker was taking off like a rocket on this one at the farewell gig as well.

[GaryStuartKing]

I recently bought an Egnator 30 Watt Rebel (that has a variable control allowing between 1 and 30 Watt output, and surprisingly, there is not much difference in output, other than headroom. So, a 15 Watt amp will still kick. Mr Egnator has a good explanation on why the Wattage diff. doesn't make an obvious dofference, and some people are disapointed. By the way, the amp is GREAT - I love it more than any amp I've used, with the possible exception of my Fuchs.

[bluesriot2]

@GaryStuartKing  are you daring to put this tune down? you must be half-deaf in one ear and in the other hard of hearing. unstructured? dude get a grip, that was part of the idea, to improvise and not make it sound like you were reading sheet music, get with the program already, it's over 40 years and you STILL haven't figured this out?

[francescocusato]

The only good music is when good musicians play for each other. I believe that’s what made Cream so different from the other rock groups.

[GaryStuartKing]

I had a Marshall 100 (no master volume) with only 1 4x12 cab with EV's and threw a rug over the speakers and faced the cab to the wall. My drummer is now mostly deaf because of it. I used to blow speakers 2 at a time, probably because I blocked air flow nd the voice coils heated up. Clapton says he's now mostly deaf and I believe it. Cream had the reputtion of being the loudest band in the studio.

[NintendoSinceBirth1]

@GaryStuartKing i can only imagine i have a little 15 watt blues jr and its loud as hell when i crank it flat out

[noodlam]

speed-induced tempo

[Moshpith]

Seeing these cool pix of the Marshall stacks brings back memories. I bought a Marshall Major 200 watt head no gain control and double angled stack in Philadelphia in 1969. It was great but the fucking thing was so powerful you couldn't crank it up enough to get that tone unless you were playing Shea Stadium. I played a lot of field houses and it overwhelmed everything...took two guys to get the head on the top cab it was so heavy. Great fun was had by all, from what I can remember.

[MorroccoM13]

Never understood why Jack played an EB3. It sounds terrible and worse than the 6 string Fender bass. Love Gibby guitars but when it comes to bass guitars get a Fender 4string.

[G8GT364CI]

@MorroccoM13 I thought he and Felix Pappalardi (EB-1) both had great dirty bass sounds.

[MorroccoM13]

@G8GT364CI > Perhaps its just a personal taste thing. The Gibson bass guitars sound very weak to me and dont have the rich deep bass of a Fender. Jack may have had an EB1 but usually played an EB3 after dumping the 6-string Fender during the early days of Cream.

[G8GT364CI]

@MorroccoM13 The problem with Gibsons, especially EB-3's is that they were either too deep or you needed to use the bridge PU alone. Jack pretty much sounds like he only used the bridge pickup which had very little bottom. Felix Pappalardi used the EB-1 (basically an EB-3 with no bridge pickup) in Mountain but his playing had a real lot of bottom but no mid or highs. Jack and Felix both used distortion to get mids. Fenders have good bottom but also a lot of low-mids which make them sound rich.

[jsilence418]

@MorroccoM13 Uh yeah please never refer to Gibson guitars as " gibbys" again! thank you.

[carlosesperanzo]

By the way you can find the whole ricky tick concert right here on youtube XD 

[dylster21502]

this version kicks the album vversions ass!!! as a drummer myself, i honesly dont like playing sunshine too much , its boring. the only thing that makes it fun is hearing that bad ass riff, i wud enjoy playing it this way a lot tho

[jarobainaguevara]

BOM DEMAIS, OS TRES SÃO A NATA DO ROCK MESMO, SOU SUSPEITO DE FALAR POIS SOU FÃ INCONDICIONAL DE CLAPTON,

[jimaroo100]

A little context here.... there was lots of radical things in music at this exact time... but Cream had a tremendous effect because it penetrated the middle class teen suburban beatle fan market and blew our heads off which opened the door for those of us stuck in Beatle/Stone Land.

[Easleytee]

@jimaroo100

The real impact of Cream was their extended solos (Jazz inspired...Coltrane in particular) and the fact that they could actually play their instruments at a high level.

[metart93]

@Easleytee

i agree with both of you, its definitely a mixture of both of these plus the appeal of the psychedelic nature of their music and style as well as the heaviness and originality of their song output.

[banjoburty]

This is probably the pre-drugged version

[toughserb145]

@banjoburty ur going to get killed

[jnjons23]

i wish that they would have stayed together they would have been the best for forty years or more.

[tatsandteles]

I'm not a big fan of Cream. Really amazing though, for the time period. Sounds like the worlds best garage band. Ginger Baker is really something.

[neojohn44]

Awful, but interesting...whole chunks of the WOF Crossroads solo here.

[bamboosa]

I saw Cream's first (Santa Monica Civic) and last show (Forum) in Los Angeles. I snuck a portable reel to reel - an amazing machine - into the farewell concert and held a microphone on a stick and recorded the whole thing. My mom lost the tape.

[iou39]

@bamboosa Your mom lost the tape? Yeah, right.....

[genericgeorge]

@bamboosa DANG! Did your mum snoop around in your room like mine did? lol

[RedWolf3487]

Most like the Hendrix version.

[supsailor1885]

This song had to be totally unknown to the audience, since Disraeli Gears was not reorded until May of '67 in NY under the supervision of the Late, Great Tom Dowd!

 Disreaeli Gears should have been Released in June of '67 and Cream Should have been at the Monterey Pot Festival alongside Hendrix, The Who, ETC!!!!

[spacepatrolman]

@supsailor1885 DOWD taught ginger baker the native american drum beat what is woman tone that the uploader is talking about it zounds like a fuzztone to me

[metart93]

@spacepatrolman

Woman tone was a technique used by Clapton on occasion that consisted of maxing out everything on his Marshall (Bass Treble Mids Volume etc.), maxing out the volume on his guitar, switching to the rhythm pickup (the one closest to the neck) and turning the tone all the way down thus producing a rich, dark creamy, sustaining tone as can be clearly heard throughout the studio recording of sunshine, specifically the solo.

here he explains it: (youtube) /watch?v=2hYCKeOsj_w

[metart93]

@spacepatrolman The only effects clapton ever used with Cream was a wah wah, all the distortion was pure tube distortion achieved from cranking his amps to full volume and then some =P

[pageyzoso84]

This is absolutly incredible....thank you so much for posting this. I never knew they preformed it at this tempo....and I must say I think I prefer it. I think clapton's solo is stunning here! Amazing.

[benjammin420420]

+1 to the where and when question

[metart93]

@benjammin420420

Live at the Ricky Tick, Hounslow, W. London.

22nd April. 1967

[MrSlowhandmac]

@metart93 Wow! Really?? I was living in Hounslow at that time and saw Cream every time they played the Ricky Tick (formerly Attic)... I remember when Clapton first started using his SG Standard, then a couple of weeks later back at the Ricky Tick it had that awesome Fool paint job... awesome times! Thanks for posting this :)))

[metart93]

@MrSlowhandmac

OMFG haha! You lucky son of a gun! I can only dream of having seen Cream live... my parents were barley in their teens haha, and i was a looooooong ways away from existence. How was it seeing them before the whole psychedelic craze of Frisco made its impressions on em? While Clapton was still in his "Bluesbreaker" style of playing, before he caught on to the yummy jazzyness of Ginger and Jack and started indulging in the 15 min jams? man ohhh man that must have been a good time!

[genericgeorge]

@MrSlowhandmac cool

[bjornense]

Where and when were this recorded, anyone know?

[metart93]

@bjornense

Live at the Ricky Tick, Hounslow, W. London.

22nd April. 1967

[MrKnikkers]

Great, many thanks