Well i would say from these bluepoint must be good because hitman pro uses 6 engines if you count g data as avast! and bitdefender and it scored the same as bluepoint!
Also I think that this is not the right way to test could based antivirus software because they do not relly on signature detection that is important for this kind of testing.
If you could put heuristic on maximum and execute each of undetected samples we could see if software stops it or not :)
For example, in order to lower false positives vendor would apply different ruleset for files that are associated with apropriate registry entires for that files..
Im afraid you are incorrect in your assertion that cloud AMs do not use signatures as they do.
They use heuristics as well and for on exe, may employ behavioral analysis also.
Whilst it is true that some AMs will detect a higher proportion of malware on exe than on demand, it is incorrect to argue that on demand tests are the wrong way to test applications
They imply different heuristic for realtime situations and different for on-demand scan.
Cloud based software have database stored online, they scan a file and if a file is clean software check with online database to make sure file is not listed overthere. Thats why they depend of the Internet.
When you do on-demand scan they use limited database and heuristics, if a file is suspicius they call database,
@sepertude Hi. In fact, with a right clicj scan, Hitman simply uploads the files to the cloud where they are scanned by the various vendors engines. Bluepoint also uploads the samples. Hitman employs its own detection during a system scan and if EWS is enabled. I believe Prevx simply uploads a MD5, but uses a few extra techneques during on exe analysis. Both Bluepoint and Surfright are happy with our tests and methodology.
@ComputerHelp55 MRG is fully independent and has no ties to any security vendor. We have never asked for or received any payment for our work how many testing organisations can say that?
Well ok sorry about that. It is just that BPS's channel made an exact same vid like yours but with 50 samples and he had like the exact same voice as yours. Plus that guy just updated everything so BPS blocks it and make everyone buy there product. Since you had the exact same voice as the other guy I was guessing you would rig it to.
@ComputerHelp55 The video you refer to was made by us as part of the testing we do on our site and this is made perfectly clear by Bluepoint and is also stated at the start of the video. Your accusation that we just updated everything so BPS blocks it and make everyone buy there product. (I use your spelling), is untrue and childish. Several vendors refer to our tests did we rig these to? (again, your spelling)
If you have anything interesting or factual to say, please do so.
Ok then I do have some to say. If you guys don't make any money on this why do you do it? I mean sure part of it is probably for just testing for the best anti-malware product but isn't it hectic to keep doing that scanning and cloning? And not getting anything back from it?
We do it because 1) It is interesting. 2) Serves as a diversion from running our own businesses. 3) provides a service to smaller vendors that would otherwise cost them between €500 - €2500 per test 4) Because we want to make the internet safer for the average user. 5) We like helping people who have good products make them better.
i am just wondering what your absolute "go-to" program is for removing viruses from your computer.
I have malwarebytes. works great. and hitman pro.
but i am just wondering if there is like "the ultimate malware removal" program out there. lol
kailea2323 1 year ago
@kailea2323 In terms of removal, i would say the ones you mention are about as good as you will get.
MalwareResearchGroup 1 year ago
i have AVG on my computer can i scan with it on?
rivercisco 1 year ago
Well i would say from these bluepoint must be good because hitman pro uses 6 engines if you count g data as avast! and bitdefender and it scored the same as bluepoint!
commando189 2 years ago
What about Panda Cloud?
Also I think that this is not the right way to test could based antivirus software because they do not relly on signature detection that is important for this kind of testing.
If you could put heuristic on maximum and execute each of undetected samples we could see if software stops it or not :)
For example, in order to lower false positives vendor would apply different ruleset for files that are associated with apropriate registry entires for that files..
sepertude 2 years ago
Hi sepertude.
Im afraid you are incorrect in your assertion that cloud AMs do not use signatures as they do.
They use heuristics as well and for on exe, may employ behavioral analysis also.
Whilst it is true that some AMs will detect a higher proportion of malware on exe than on demand, it is incorrect to argue that on demand tests are the wrong way to test applications
MalwareResearchGroup 2 years ago
They imply different heuristic for realtime situations and different for on-demand scan.
Cloud based software have database stored online, they scan a file and if a file is clean software check with online database to make sure file is not listed overthere. Thats why they depend of the Internet.
When you do on-demand scan they use limited database and heuristics, if a file is suspicius they call database,
sepertude 2 years ago
if not it does not call othervise it would take hours to check each file with online database.
sepertude 2 years ago
@sepertude Hi. In fact, with a right clicj scan, Hitman simply uploads the files to the cloud where they are scanned by the various vendors engines. Bluepoint also uploads the samples. Hitman employs its own detection during a system scan and if EWS is enabled. I believe Prevx simply uploads a MD5, but uses a few extra techneques during on exe analysis. Both Bluepoint and Surfright are happy with our tests and methodology.
Regards,
Chris
MalwareResearchGroup 2 years ago
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ComputerHelp55 2 years ago
@ComputerHelp55 MRG is fully independent and has no ties to any security vendor. We have never asked for or received any payment for our work how many testing organisations can say that?
MalwareResearchGroup 2 years ago
Well ok sorry about that. It is just that BPS's channel made an exact same vid like yours but with 50 samples and he had like the exact same voice as yours. Plus that guy just updated everything so BPS blocks it and make everyone buy there product. Since you had the exact same voice as the other guy I was guessing you would rig it to.
ComputerHelp55 2 years ago
@ComputerHelp55 The video you refer to was made by us as part of the testing we do on our site and this is made perfectly clear by Bluepoint and is also stated at the start of the video. Your accusation that we just updated everything so BPS blocks it and make everyone buy there product. (I use your spelling), is untrue and childish. Several vendors refer to our tests did we rig these to? (again, your spelling)
If you have anything interesting or factual to say, please do so.
MalwareResearchGroup 2 years ago
Ok then I do have some to say. If you guys don't make any money on this why do you do it? I mean sure part of it is probably for just testing for the best anti-malware product but isn't it hectic to keep doing that scanning and cloning? And not getting anything back from it?
ComputerHelp55 2 years ago
We do it because 1) It is interesting. 2) Serves as a diversion from running our own businesses. 3) provides a service to smaller vendors that would otherwise cost them between €500 - €2500 per test 4) Because we want to make the internet safer for the average user. 5) We like helping people who have good products make them better.
MalwareResearchGroup 2 years ago