Learned dancing from my Abuela - and this makes it just as simple as she did. Because I live in "Gringo-Land" I have gotten rusty. And my brain is having problems understanding the difference between the Rumba, Cha Cha Cha, and the Mereinque. Do these awesome (y simpatico) dancers have a DVD which covers the three?
This is simply amazing!!! Muy bien explicado, en particular el movimiento de las chicas pq puede ser bastante complejo de entender y en realidad es la primera vez q veo una explicación tan completa de dicho movimiento. Lo q me sorprende es la ignorancia de algunas personas que no respetan los bailes cubanos q en realidad acompañan a la salsa, sino q esperan esa version americanizada q poco tiene q ver con ser latino. Aunq me habria gustado q la musica fuera verdadera rumba, excelente d vdd!!
But hesitation is the entire beauty in a Latin dance! That is the most beautiful part in Rumba I noticed on a woman dancer years ago. Hesitation,without it , it is boring ! To be able yo dance the hesitation, the dancer has to dance 2341; not 1234 as the Salsa are ! This is my research after years of analyzing the beautiful Latin dance, the Cuban Rumba! George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
@georgewu5 The Cuban Rumba has almost nothing to do with what was done to Rumba when it left Cuba and ended up in the ballroom. Plus whatever beat you dance on is totally irrelevant to how musical you are as a dancer! Some Cubans prefer contra tiempo, others do not. Further Cuban Rumba comes in many guises, and is a family itself. Do you mean Yambu? Guaguanco? Columbia? They dance a much much more complex structure than just 2341 or 1234!
@MrWildbill20056 I could only tell you my own experience, not other people's. Is it fair? Twenty eight years ago. I was a terrible Latin dancer. I was totally confused with the Tito Era, so was everbody else in the 1980s. Then I discovered my counting should be 2341, not any other way, from Corky Ballas,who is not a Cuban, but an American who went to England and became a World Champion there. and then typed video with the best Latin dancer Slavik in Las Vagas. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
@georgewu5 You learned Ballroom latin which is so far removed from its latin roots it's really very sad. It's admirable, but should not be confused with being Cuban or even close to it. A Yambu dancer would not recognise BR Rumba has anything other than really slowed down salsa. Mambo and Cuban dances are danced on1, 2, 3 and 4 (in the case of Son.) You haven't become more proficient as a Mambero in the authentic sense, but as a ballroom dancer. Which is great! But different!
The Puerto Ricans INVENTED the Salsa from the Cuban Mambo? They speed up the rhythm so fast that the counting is 1234 for the fundamental count quick quick slow, the slow can be overlooked, not to be danced. The result is a continuous 1234,1234, no hesitations required , therefore an average beginner can pick up easily to contratrate on their arms!! But the traditional Cuba Rumba beats are missing, Namely, to dance Rumba (slow), Mambo(fast), quick quick slow, 2341, 2341,.... George Wu, AIA
@georgewu5 No one said Puerto Ricans invented Salsa from Mambo! Simply that musical influences, dominated by PR/Jazz musicians took Mambo to a new place! Not all 'Salsa' or modern Mambo is so pacey. Quick Quick Slow still adequately describes how Salseros dance. Yes some music is far closer to it's Mambo roots than others, but as a family the music is something descended from Cuban Mambo, but not the same.
@MrWildbill20056 If you slowed down the beat and danced to the Salsa dance 1234, You will know I have been trying to say. The beauty of Rumba is the slow down of the third beat and transfered the body weight from one foot to the other. I supposed I should not speak to a musician, not a dancer as I thought you are. If you want to see how much I care about DANCE, please go to YouTube dancewu net foxtrot , dancewu rumba etc.
@georgewu5 The problem is you are coming at this from a Ballroom perspective. Ballroom Rumba etc has only the most tenuous links to it's Cuban roots! Cuban Rumba is so much richer and more percussively/musically complex! BR Rumba is hardly ever danced to latin music! What has this to do with Mambo or Salsa? o.O Old school Cuban Mambo and then NY Mambo and then Salsa has no significant change of pace! Fast/Slow mambos, Fast/Slow Salsa!
@MrWildbill20056 You can say again that the world famous Russian Ballet has nothing to do with the Gypsy dance in Italy. But in your heart, you know the Russian Ballet is a sofisticated art form where Gypsy dance is literally a street dance. Being a college graduate, I find myself have a discriminating taste. I like Beethoven, Brahms,Wright, Corbusier, Ballroom dancing, Chinese Calligraphy. I do not like Hustle, the music and the dance are boring and repetitive, not challenging enough....
@georgewu5 I'm sorry are you saying Cuban Rumba and Salsa and other dances are somehow the primtive relations of Ballroom? Really? I'm thinking you have no experience of the world of rich, technically and artistically demanding Cuban music and dance. Further you clearly have no knowledge of the comparable world of New York born Salsa/Mambo and the different technical/artistic demands of it's top performers. Ballroom music associated with 'latin' is almost never latin! This is a problem :P
@MrWildbill20056 I stopped writing in the middle of my reply to you, thinking of what my Indian physician friend who is also a Ballroom lover gave me a good advice years ago,He said, "Never argue." I guessed I have forgotten his wonderful advice for a long time. Good -bye and thank you for your time. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-10
@georgewu5 The problem here, though, is not a case of legitimate argument. The facts are that Ballroom and the dances that were taken and remodelled for the ballroom exist in different worlds! To say that one is superior to the other is simply a matter of taste. Of course technically speaking there are demands in BR unknown to others, but this also happens in reverse. Enjoy what you enjoy! However do not make the mistake of thinking Latin ballroom is true to its latin roots.
@MrWildbill20056: Perfectly put. I am a Latin Ballroom dancer, love it, but also recognize our form of dancing is far removed from its origin. For me ballroom dancing is most beautiful but it does not make it better than its origin or any other form of dancing. It's a matter of taste and culture. As dancers we respect all forms of dancing. By doing so it not only make you a better dancer but most important a better person.
The Puerto Ricans stole the Cuban Rumba and said they invented the Salsa in L.A. or in New York. in the late 1950s. I wondered how the Cubans think of this? I myself never called the dance Salsa, I always called it the proper original name Cuban Mambo !
@georgewu5 Sorry, Cuban Mambo is a related, but distinct dance from Cuban Salsa, and even has it's own musical form. Timba evolved alongside 'Cuban Salsa' and is the closest related musical form. PR took the musical forms and dance influences and developed them towards what we know as the slot family of Salsa as well as engendering the development of Mambo as we know it now (not Cuban Mambo!) Both cultures are important to the history of what we now call Salsa :)
@MrWildbill20056 So, are you saying that Cuban mambo and Cuban Salsa were all from Cuba. Then why the hell the Puerto Ricans claimed that they had invented Salsa in New York or California?
@georgewu5 Puerto Rican Salsa was a total innovation in how to approach the dance. Cuban Mambo is not Mambo as you know it! The latinos of New York and PR conspired together to create the music we would call Mambo/Salsa Dura, which is descended from, but in no way identical to any music produced in Cuba. Salsa as danced in-line, to music as performed by say Tito Puente is not a Cuban creation, but from Cuban inspiration :)
@MrWildbill20056 Xavier Cugat was not even Cuban or Puerto Rican, he was Spanish from Spain. What about Perez Prado, Esquivel, Russ Garcia, Luis Arcaraz besides Tito Puente, to name a few. When the British Donnie Burns, Ukrainian Slavik borrowed the Cuban Rumba, they did not dare to change the name of the dance, they RESPECT the authencity of the origin and added the Russian &Fench Ballet training into the romantic Rumba, whether it is fast or slow, they always had the QQS, NEVER CHANGED !!
@georgewu5 I don't want to get into a listing war, but we both know I wouldn't struggle to name a bunch of Puerto Ricans who were absolutely critical to the development of 'Salsa.' The facts are, as I said the music is of Cuban descent, no one argues this. However to say it's went onto remain 'purely Cuban', while generally true structurally speaking, is to ignore the massive contributions of PR, Jazz and others on the NY scene in 50's and onwards.
@MrWildbill20056 "The music is of Cuban decent, no one argues this." Then why the Puerto Rican stole the Cuban Mambo and re-named it Salsa then. This is most unethical thing I disagree with the Salsa dance. By the way, thius is my only argument. When the European improved the Rumba , they just made it better with the knowledge they gained from the Ballet, but they did not steal it and called rumba another name as if they had invented it as the Puerto Rican s did ! George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
@georgewu5 Because Salsa represented the melting pot of the music! There were other powerful formative influences on the music once it found its way to PR and NY. They weren't just 'improving' it, they were responsible for it living on after the Cuban Revolution in particular. Cubans moved on and now we have Timba, thank goodness, it's wonderful! However it was the innovation and work of NY musicians that kept Salsa alive. The cubans didn't 'steal' african music, the PRs didn't 'steal' cuban :)
@MrWildbill20056 I remembered a few years ago, there were several loud voices here in YouTube claimed that They invented the Salsa. And there was a gentleman,I presumed that was you trying to convince me not to learn from the world's best Latin dancer Slavik from Ukraine. But can you explain why the Europeans did not changed the name but just improved the dance with the Ballet techniques; as the PR took the credit from the Cubans and claimed that they invented the dance?!
@georgewu5 I don't think we have ever spoken before. Ballroom Rumba has almost nothing in common with Cuban Rumba, it's so far removed from the movement and music that it's really a new creation that only vaguely deserves the name. They didn't improve it! The fact is that other cultures: NY, PR, Colombia have had huge impacts on 'Salsa.' To the point where it is a descendant but not the same music or dance, as a whole. Yes some is very Cuban still, but eg Colombian Salsa is very removed.
@MrWildbill20056 When the gypsy dance from Italy passed on to France the King even make it into Ballet, and then passed on to Russia, yet they did not change the name Ballet into a russian name "Ballet SALSA"or something to take credit of being the "INVENTOR OF SALSA BY THE PUERTO RICANS" The Russian respected Ballet, a French name of the dance to this day. Now that is respectful ! What the PR did to the Cuban culture is not respectful,stealing Mambo and re-named it Salsa ! George Wu, AIA
@georgewu5 Now now, the problem is that 'Salsa' was born in New York! It was an evolution of Mambo, which itself was an evolution of Son and Danzon. In the same way what Mambo was neither Son nor Danzon, the other influences that came in made a great deal of 'Salsa' something different from Mambo. PR contributed musicanship and PR musical influences eh leilolei etc. NY contributed big band Jazz and extemporization influences. No one stole anything, it just evolved :)
@MrWildbill20056 Have you ever thought of writing as well as composing the Jazz music as your career? The writings were beatifully written. Think about it. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-10
@georgewu5 Sorry, dude, but you just cant argue like that. You have a strict ballroom point of view. I do not share your fascination of ballroom with you, I respect your opinion though. But please, do not criticise what you do not understand, Im begging you. I am not much of an expert, actually, I started with ballroom too, but after I got in touch with dances such as cuban rumba, I realized how artificial ballroom dance was.Pure technique, just show. No offence, everybody has different taste
Great video! First lesson of the real cuban rumba (though danced on salsa music). For the first time, it is not that ballroom sh.t (sorry for the word, just cant help myself) :-) Are there any other video lessons of cuban rumba available? Thanks.
Please anyone who is singing that song? I here the guy saying "huega bo" I wonder if he means bosch as in "Jimmy Bosch" famous trombone player. Please send me some feed.
@utilisert , Are you a white supremacist ???? because your comment is out of place, why ORANGUTANES becouse are dark skin people? please correct your self.
@IrishBachataGirl The Puerto Ricans stole the Cuban rumba and called it Salsa in the late 1960s in Union SAuare subway station. The Puerto Rican Salsa stole the Cuban Rumba and said they invented it .
@georgewu5 So many don't know or realise the origins of these dances, and I'm always interested to learn about the history as much as the dance itself. Thanks :)
@IrishBachataGirl Once you have seen the world champions Yulia, A Russian representing the U.S.A.,and the past champion Joanna ( A Danish representing Poland and a former partner of the world's best Latin male dancer Slavik), (Blackpool Latin in YouTube), you would love their ballet background and have introduced the romantic movements into their performance, and you would keep on coming back and want to learn the secrets of how they could do them so beautifully ! YouTube Dancewu net 伍榮基建築師
@georgewu5: Georgie you asshole, get off your make believe high horse. The Cuban rumba is from where all other rumba styles including the International originated. I am a Latin ballroom dancer and I love it and my love for it requires me to respect all other forms of dancing. A true dancer, which you are not, would not disrespect any form of dance, primitive as you put it, or not. You need to learn respect Georgie and stop putting yourself out as a dance expert. I know you are not.
@IrishBachataGirl The Proto Ricans had stolen the Cuban Mambo and changed the name into Salsa. Where did this man get the " Cuban Salsa" World Championship TWICE from ?
@IrishBachataGirl : You're right in wanting to learn the origin and history of dances that interest you. You become a better dancer when you do so. Disregard @georgewu5 commments. Believe me, he is not a dancer and know very little. If he was a dancer, he would not be commenting the way he does. Real dancers respect all forms of dancing.
her accent is +11.. reminds me of Tricky. This is the real Rhumba - American ballroom style is made up, and international ballroom style is really Bolero. Rumba is actually taught in ballroom as salsa sidesteps and appears in a few other dances down to the figure 8's. Hate it as much as you like, though, but I think a bunch of eastern white European people have given the world a run for their money on Bolero! But who cares in the end, I just dance what I like. You should too.
Actually this is Rumba and not salsa. Salsa's main roots come from Rumba..the dance movements and music. That's why some of the moves look like salsa because it comes from Rumba dances styles guaguanco, columbia, and yambu.
He has a very poor posture,hoping up and down forever and ever! like a jungle dance! in my opinion. if that is authentic rumba, he can keep it to yourself, and I want nothing to do with it. I would rather learn my Rumba from a Latin dancer from ukraine, Slavik.
Aren't you embarrassed to make such statements. You sound completely ignorant. "It looks like a jungle dance..." Really? Are you drawing on all of your extensive time spent in jungles watching people dance?
Sidenote: My favorite food is pelmeni and abzhorka. The Cuban cafes in Miami never get it right, though. Perhaps my luck would be better in Kiev, what do you think?
@georgewu5 LOL what a dumb fcuk!! Listen fatass, you obviously can't dance so you are more to be pitied than censured, but damn!!! you don't know shyyte!
Which uploaded Rumba videos? Actually I´ve never uploaded here anything before.
I erased my commentary but actually it's still no ballroom rumba. So the best way is to post the right title for both ballroom and cuban rumba here in youtube so nobody can argue about it anymore.
@19red83 , My friend please accept my sincere apology, the message was intented for another person, by mistake and I don't really know what happen the msg. end in your box, sorry again my brother.
Wow it never ceases to amaze me at the insane things people say I was only responding info on Youtube ,non-black and blacks in Cuba either migrated there or were bought as slaves so what are you talking about. That means they bought there culture with them.The real inhabitants are the indigenous people .Beside I can do this anyway I enjoy there showcase.
This is the most basic step of the original Afro-Cuban rumba. The music is salsa but the dance they are demonstrating is the basic rumba step and how it can be applied when dancing to salsa music. It has nothing to do with samba (Brazilian music) or mambo which is a different dance. Don't confuse it with BALLROOM rumba which is actually son/bolero and was incorrectly called rhumba when it became popular in the United States in the 1930s.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
That is not rumba. im a professional Ballroom & Latin dancer. what in the world are you teaching a salsa music to rumba? sorry brotha i don't know what country your from but that's not rumba.
@georgewu5 THERE IS NOTHING MORE BORING THAN HOPPING UP AND DOWN ON AND ON . THE MAN SHOULD ASK HIS PARTNER WHY SHE COULD TWIST HER HIPS IN FIGURE EIGHT PATTERN?
@dancingman71...the description that you quote is perfectly fine; not all of us mortals know as much as you about this kind of dancing.This video was made for the people that don`t know how to dance and want to learn...... another thing....Rumba it NOT ONLY means to have a party. All that you wrote it`s what we called COMENTARIO TOTALMENTE EN VANO
You're being a little bit silly. The video is entitled Rumba "Basics". Can you imagine a video like the one you mentioned being shown to a complete and utter novice/beginner to learn?
Or maybe you're just showing off a little bit...(?)
RUMBA, this is where it came from before ballroom bastardize it and called it their own. Do a search on Cuba rumba or guaguanco and see what it's all about. Same as Samba in the Rio carnival is not ballroom Samba
hola she's definetely gorgeous but without context rumba doesn't mean anything: look at rumba demo key2cuba: it's real rumba : a collective experience inside anyone tells a story with his body
and they don't need appropriate clothes to do it . I really do love cuba and that's the very reason i don't like this video
by the way she is not even a good dancer she thinks she is but she's not.
Learned dancing from my Abuela - and this makes it just as simple as she did. Because I live in "Gringo-Land" I have gotten rusty. And my brain is having problems understanding the difference between the Rumba, Cha Cha Cha, and the Mereinque. Do these awesome (y simpatico) dancers have a DVD which covers the three?
Trying to get to my raizes.
@MadelineHere
MadelineHere 6 days ago
whats the name of the music playing at the intro
thelivingpoet 1 week ago in playlist rumba
Nice, hopefully the counting of the lady confirm that it is danced on 2 , which is symply naturally following the rythm... to me.
Pianotec 3 months ago
i love how Rumb makes two stepping looking so sexy and fun! Perfect for a shy guy learning to bust a move in the clubs like me tee hee
looker768 3 months ago
Really helpful, great descriptions, thanks a lot!
onthehalfshel 3 months ago
This is simply amazing!!! Muy bien explicado, en particular el movimiento de las chicas pq puede ser bastante complejo de entender y en realidad es la primera vez q veo una explicación tan completa de dicho movimiento. Lo q me sorprende es la ignorancia de algunas personas que no respetan los bailes cubanos q en realidad acompañan a la salsa, sino q esperan esa version americanizada q poco tiene q ver con ser latino. Aunq me habria gustado q la musica fuera verdadera rumba, excelente d vdd!!
babypocho 4 months ago 2
@georgewu5: Du bist ein Dummkopf.
IX19UT8O 4 months ago
Que vola ?
Very good explanations. ^-^
Salse7rito 4 months ago
Excellent visual an verbal demonstration. Loved it. Thank you for posting this video.
-Edie, The Salsa FREAK!!
ediethesalsafreak 5 months ago
She is a good dancer; he is not ! Is this a criticism? George Wu, AIA
georgewu5 5 months ago
But hesitation is the entire beauty in a Latin dance! That is the most beautiful part in Rumba I noticed on a woman dancer years ago. Hesitation,without it , it is boring ! To be able yo dance the hesitation, the dancer has to dance 2341; not 1234 as the Salsa are ! This is my research after years of analyzing the beautiful Latin dance, the Cuban Rumba! George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 The Cuban Rumba has almost nothing to do with what was done to Rumba when it left Cuba and ended up in the ballroom. Plus whatever beat you dance on is totally irrelevant to how musical you are as a dancer! Some Cubans prefer contra tiempo, others do not. Further Cuban Rumba comes in many guises, and is a family itself. Do you mean Yambu? Guaguanco? Columbia? They dance a much much more complex structure than just 2341 or 1234!
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 I could only tell you my own experience, not other people's. Is it fair? Twenty eight years ago. I was a terrible Latin dancer. I was totally confused with the Tito Era, so was everbody else in the 1980s. Then I discovered my counting should be 2341, not any other way, from Corky Ballas,who is not a Cuban, but an American who went to England and became a World Champion there. and then typed video with the best Latin dancer Slavik in Las Vagas. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 You learned Ballroom latin which is so far removed from its latin roots it's really very sad. It's admirable, but should not be confused with being Cuban or even close to it. A Yambu dancer would not recognise BR Rumba has anything other than really slowed down salsa. Mambo and Cuban dances are danced on1, 2, 3 and 4 (in the case of Son.) You haven't become more proficient as a Mambero in the authentic sense, but as a ballroom dancer. Which is great! But different!
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
The Puerto Ricans INVENTED the Salsa from the Cuban Mambo? They speed up the rhythm so fast that the counting is 1234 for the fundamental count quick quick slow, the slow can be overlooked, not to be danced. The result is a continuous 1234,1234, no hesitations required , therefore an average beginner can pick up easily to contratrate on their arms!! But the traditional Cuba Rumba beats are missing, Namely, to dance Rumba (slow), Mambo(fast), quick quick slow, 2341, 2341,.... George Wu, AIA
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 No one said Puerto Ricans invented Salsa from Mambo! Simply that musical influences, dominated by PR/Jazz musicians took Mambo to a new place! Not all 'Salsa' or modern Mambo is so pacey. Quick Quick Slow still adequately describes how Salseros dance. Yes some music is far closer to it's Mambo roots than others, but as a family the music is something descended from Cuban Mambo, but not the same.
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 If you slowed down the beat and danced to the Salsa dance 1234, You will know I have been trying to say. The beauty of Rumba is the slow down of the third beat and transfered the body weight from one foot to the other. I supposed I should not speak to a musician, not a dancer as I thought you are. If you want to see how much I care about DANCE, please go to YouTube dancewu net foxtrot , dancewu rumba etc.
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 The problem is you are coming at this from a Ballroom perspective. Ballroom Rumba etc has only the most tenuous links to it's Cuban roots! Cuban Rumba is so much richer and more percussively/musically complex! BR Rumba is hardly ever danced to latin music! What has this to do with Mambo or Salsa? o.O Old school Cuban Mambo and then NY Mambo and then Salsa has no significant change of pace! Fast/Slow mambos, Fast/Slow Salsa!
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 You can say again that the world famous Russian Ballet has nothing to do with the Gypsy dance in Italy. But in your heart, you know the Russian Ballet is a sofisticated art form where Gypsy dance is literally a street dance. Being a college graduate, I find myself have a discriminating taste. I like Beethoven, Brahms,Wright, Corbusier, Ballroom dancing, Chinese Calligraphy. I do not like Hustle, the music and the dance are boring and repetitive, not challenging enough....
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 I'm sorry are you saying Cuban Rumba and Salsa and other dances are somehow the primtive relations of Ballroom? Really? I'm thinking you have no experience of the world of rich, technically and artistically demanding Cuban music and dance. Further you clearly have no knowledge of the comparable world of New York born Salsa/Mambo and the different technical/artistic demands of it's top performers. Ballroom music associated with 'latin' is almost never latin! This is a problem :P
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 I stopped writing in the middle of my reply to you, thinking of what my Indian physician friend who is also a Ballroom lover gave me a good advice years ago,He said, "Never argue." I guessed I have forgotten his wonderful advice for a long time. Good -bye and thank you for your time. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-10
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 The problem here, though, is not a case of legitimate argument. The facts are that Ballroom and the dances that were taken and remodelled for the ballroom exist in different worlds! To say that one is superior to the other is simply a matter of taste. Of course technically speaking there are demands in BR unknown to others, but this also happens in reverse. Enjoy what you enjoy! However do not make the mistake of thinking Latin ballroom is true to its latin roots.
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056: Perfectly put. I am a Latin Ballroom dancer, love it, but also recognize our form of dancing is far removed from its origin. For me ballroom dancing is most beautiful but it does not make it better than its origin or any other form of dancing. It's a matter of taste and culture. As dancers we respect all forms of dancing. By doing so it not only make you a better dancer but most important a better person.
IX19UT8O 4 months ago
The Puerto Ricans stole the Cuban Rumba and said they invented the Salsa in L.A. or in New York. in the late 1950s. I wondered how the Cubans think of this? I myself never called the dance Salsa, I always called it the proper original name Cuban Mambo !
georgewu5 6 months ago
@georgewu5 Sorry, Cuban Mambo is a related, but distinct dance from Cuban Salsa, and even has it's own musical form. Timba evolved alongside 'Cuban Salsa' and is the closest related musical form. PR took the musical forms and dance influences and developed them towards what we know as the slot family of Salsa as well as engendering the development of Mambo as we know it now (not Cuban Mambo!) Both cultures are important to the history of what we now call Salsa :)
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 So, are you saying that Cuban mambo and Cuban Salsa were all from Cuba. Then why the hell the Puerto Ricans claimed that they had invented Salsa in New York or California?
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 Puerto Rican Salsa was a total innovation in how to approach the dance. Cuban Mambo is not Mambo as you know it! The latinos of New York and PR conspired together to create the music we would call Mambo/Salsa Dura, which is descended from, but in no way identical to any music produced in Cuba. Salsa as danced in-line, to music as performed by say Tito Puente is not a Cuban creation, but from Cuban inspiration :)
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 Xavier Cugat was not even Cuban or Puerto Rican, he was Spanish from Spain. What about Perez Prado, Esquivel, Russ Garcia, Luis Arcaraz besides Tito Puente, to name a few. When the British Donnie Burns, Ukrainian Slavik borrowed the Cuban Rumba, they did not dare to change the name of the dance, they RESPECT the authencity of the origin and added the Russian &Fench Ballet training into the romantic Rumba, whether it is fast or slow, they always had the QQS, NEVER CHANGED !!
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 I don't want to get into a listing war, but we both know I wouldn't struggle to name a bunch of Puerto Ricans who were absolutely critical to the development of 'Salsa.' The facts are, as I said the music is of Cuban descent, no one argues this. However to say it's went onto remain 'purely Cuban', while generally true structurally speaking, is to ignore the massive contributions of PR, Jazz and others on the NY scene in 50's and onwards.
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 "The music is of Cuban decent, no one argues this." Then why the Puerto Rican stole the Cuban Mambo and re-named it Salsa then. This is most unethical thing I disagree with the Salsa dance. By the way, thius is my only argument. When the European improved the Rumba , they just made it better with the knowledge they gained from the Ballet, but they did not steal it and called rumba another name as if they had invented it as the Puerto Rican s did ! George Wu, AIA 2011-8-9
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 Because Salsa represented the melting pot of the music! There were other powerful formative influences on the music once it found its way to PR and NY. They weren't just 'improving' it, they were responsible for it living on after the Cuban Revolution in particular. Cubans moved on and now we have Timba, thank goodness, it's wonderful! However it was the innovation and work of NY musicians that kept Salsa alive. The cubans didn't 'steal' african music, the PRs didn't 'steal' cuban :)
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 I remembered a few years ago, there were several loud voices here in YouTube claimed that They invented the Salsa. And there was a gentleman,I presumed that was you trying to convince me not to learn from the world's best Latin dancer Slavik from Ukraine. But can you explain why the Europeans did not changed the name but just improved the dance with the Ballet techniques; as the PR took the credit from the Cubans and claimed that they invented the dance?!
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 I don't think we have ever spoken before. Ballroom Rumba has almost nothing in common with Cuban Rumba, it's so far removed from the movement and music that it's really a new creation that only vaguely deserves the name. They didn't improve it! The fact is that other cultures: NY, PR, Colombia have had huge impacts on 'Salsa.' To the point where it is a descendant but not the same music or dance, as a whole. Yes some is very Cuban still, but eg Colombian Salsa is very removed.
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 When the gypsy dance from Italy passed on to France the King even make it into Ballet, and then passed on to Russia, yet they did not change the name Ballet into a russian name "Ballet SALSA"or something to take credit of being the "INVENTOR OF SALSA BY THE PUERTO RICANS" The Russian respected Ballet, a French name of the dance to this day. Now that is respectful ! What the PR did to the Cuban culture is not respectful,stealing Mambo and re-named it Salsa ! George Wu, AIA
georgewu5 5 months ago
@georgewu5 Now now, the problem is that 'Salsa' was born in New York! It was an evolution of Mambo, which itself was an evolution of Son and Danzon. In the same way what Mambo was neither Son nor Danzon, the other influences that came in made a great deal of 'Salsa' something different from Mambo. PR contributed musicanship and PR musical influences eh leilolei etc. NY contributed big band Jazz and extemporization influences. No one stole anything, it just evolved :)
MrWildbill20056 5 months ago
@MrWildbill20056 Have you ever thought of writing as well as composing the Jazz music as your career? The writings were beatifully written. Think about it. George Wu, AIA 2011-8-10
georgewu5 5 months ago
that girl is shaking it... and with that accent... did it just get hot in here?!
Singsonggirl 6 months ago
loka alda partsbe moved!
TheSunIsBlack 6 months ago
Woman, everything about you is sexy! Me encanta!
miceypoo 6 months ago
Can i meet this women. :)
quiero encontrar ella.... por favor
lleec 6 months ago
Can i meet this women. :)
quiero encontrar ella. por favor
lleec 6 months ago
I understand this is not international rumba but how come the man has no figure 8 but the lady does????
jamesandsab 6 months ago
@jamesandsab Simple. She is a good dancer and he is not!
georgewu5 6 months ago
@jamesandsab Yes! Why?!
georgewu5 5 months ago
Janet, I am in love. You are mesmerizing! I love Rumba and Janet!
lbelli0789 9 months ago
gee ballroom sux in comparison aye! I mean ballroom rumba looks cool and all but this kind of real rumba is just the bomb!
tracegnet 11 months ago
Great hip movemen! This has helped me with my latin dances
MsBarbaraellen 11 months ago
He and she are great dance instructors and I'm gonna look for any and everything with HER on it!!
TheJazzydrummer 1 year ago
GO GATORS!.... GO GATORS!.... GO GATORS! C'MON GATORS! GET UP AND GO!
St33zYGh0sT 1 year ago
This looks real to me without all the showbiz nonsense in ballroom.
Leonnidik 1 year ago
this is great! really, very nice explanation!
monievargas 1 year ago
Comment removed
hoallenc 1 year ago
che bona la cubana..! mm
danwave01 1 year ago
@georgewu5 Sorry, dude, but you just cant argue like that. You have a strict ballroom point of view. I do not share your fascination of ballroom with you, I respect your opinion though. But please, do not criticise what you do not understand, Im begging you. I am not much of an expert, actually, I started with ballroom too, but after I got in touch with dances such as cuban rumba, I realized how artificial ballroom dance was.Pure technique, just show. No offence, everybody has different taste
88Wildone 1 year ago
Great video! First lesson of the real cuban rumba (though danced on salsa music). For the first time, it is not that ballroom sh.t (sorry for the word, just cant help myself) :-) Are there any other video lessons of cuban rumba available? Thanks.
88Wildone 1 year ago
Comment removed
88Wildone 1 year ago
exelent put more steps videos
elchompirasf150 1 year ago
Please anyone who is singing that song? I here the guy saying "huega bo" I wonder if he means bosch as in "Jimmy Bosch" famous trombone player. Please send me some feed.
Prince738 1 year ago
Se parece a la rumba de los orangutanes
utilisert 1 year ago
@utilisert , Are you a white supremacist ???? because your comment is out of place, why ORANGUTANES becouse are dark skin people? please correct your self.
heratahora 1 year ago
Super sexi voice chica.
spyritwind 1 year ago
Uhhhhh... Good thing someone pointing out "NOT BALLROOM" or else I would have ripped my head off.
Sashkaapashka5 1 year ago
great video, thank you. Who are the teachers?
violetj09 1 year ago
@violetj09 : Teachers are Raphael Del Busto (twice Cuban Salsa world champion) and Janet Fuentes
IrishBachataGirl 10 months ago
@IrishBachataGirl The Puerto Ricans stole the Cuban rumba and called it Salsa in the late 1960s in Union SAuare subway station. The Puerto Rican Salsa stole the Cuban Rumba and said they invented it .
georgewu5 6 months ago
@georgewu5 Sorry, it was around 1957 ; not late 1960s in Union Square subway station. My mistake.
georgewu5 6 months ago
@georgewu5 So many don't know or realise the origins of these dances, and I'm always interested to learn about the history as much as the dance itself. Thanks :)
IrishBachataGirl 4 months ago
@IrishBachataGirl Once you have seen the world champions Yulia, A Russian representing the U.S.A.,and the past champion Joanna ( A Danish representing Poland and a former partner of the world's best Latin male dancer Slavik), (Blackpool Latin in YouTube), you would love their ballet background and have introduced the romantic movements into their performance, and you would keep on coming back and want to learn the secrets of how they could do them so beautifully ! YouTube Dancewu net 伍榮基建築師
georgewu5 4 months ago
@georgewu5: Georgie you asshole, get off your make believe high horse. The Cuban rumba is from where all other rumba styles including the International originated. I am a Latin ballroom dancer and I love it and my love for it requires me to respect all other forms of dancing. A true dancer, which you are not, would not disrespect any form of dance, primitive as you put it, or not. You need to learn respect Georgie and stop putting yourself out as a dance expert. I know you are not.
IX19UT8O 4 months ago
Comment removed
georgewu5 4 months ago
@IrishBachataGirl The Proto Ricans had stolen the Cuban Mambo and changed the name into Salsa. Where did this man get the " Cuban Salsa" World Championship TWICE from ?
georgewu5 4 months ago
@IrishBachataGirl : You're right in wanting to learn the origin and history of dances that interest you. You become a better dancer when you do so. Disregard @georgewu5 commments. Believe me, he is not a dancer and know very little. If he was a dancer, he would not be commenting the way he does. Real dancers respect all forms of dancing.
IX19UT8O 4 months ago
That was awesome...thanks so much, it was so clear and comfortable. You guys are great teachers...and you can both dance really really well...
TWALLIZE 1 year ago
her accent is +11.. reminds me of Tricky. This is the real Rhumba - American ballroom style is made up, and international ballroom style is really Bolero. Rumba is actually taught in ballroom as salsa sidesteps and appears in a few other dances down to the figure 8's. Hate it as much as you like, though, but I think a bunch of eastern white European people have given the world a run for their money on Bolero! But who cares in the end, I just dance what I like. You should too.
nb6368 1 year ago 2
Como se llama la cancion en el video?
BlindFocus1 1 year ago
Hi #UN#,
I'm watching all the dance videos I can to learn. Thanks for sharing your vid.
Sincerely,
JP
myruidoso 1 year ago
wtf is this rico swavey bullshit
cast390 1 year ago
@cast390 hahahhahahahahha....
harmfulpig 1 year ago
Alguien sabe el nombre de la cancion?
jjlljjll 1 year ago
excellent
NILO2014 1 year ago
They're great teachers for the basics. Very clear, natural and easy to follow.
jumajedi000 1 year ago 2
This is really useful!!!
MonicaBarbalace 1 year ago
it is salasa
saraa49 1 year ago
@saraa49
Actually this is Rumba and not salsa. Salsa's main roots come from Rumba..the dance movements and music. That's why some of the moves look like salsa because it comes from Rumba dances styles guaguanco, columbia, and yambu.
acidfunkcubano 1 year ago
@acidfunkcubano
Rumba also, but main root is son...
Lovrito 11 months ago
Hey, it is not Rumba
saraa49 1 year ago
it is salsa styled rumba
MansXks 1 year ago
maravilhoso
tokugawaj 1 year ago
Much better than ballroom! Thanks!
sheltondk43 1 year ago
Ah ha!!! This is what we did last week at the Rumba Room!!! Thank's foe teaching me Mr. Panama!
muffin1babe 1 year ago
gracias por el clip
lokiop345 1 year ago
Does anyone know who is singing that ? Please send me an Email thankyou.
Prince738 1 year ago
loke yo no entiendo porke puneta el pone las instruciones en ingle cuando tu as visto un jodio gringo tratando de vailar salsa?
Zamuteta 1 year ago
He has a very poor posture,hoping up and down forever and ever! like a jungle dance! in my opinion. if that is authentic rumba, he can keep it to yourself, and I want nothing to do with it. I would rather learn my Rumba from a Latin dancer from ukraine, Slavik.
georgewu5 1 year ago
@georgewu5
Aren't you embarrassed to make such statements. You sound completely ignorant. "It looks like a jungle dance..." Really? Are you drawing on all of your extensive time spent in jungles watching people dance?
Sidenote: My favorite food is pelmeni and abzhorka. The Cuban cafes in Miami never get it right, though. Perhaps my luck would be better in Kiev, what do you think?
mellowgroovin 1 year ago
@georgewu5 ignorance..
SweetestLove09 1 year ago
@georgewu5 , You really don't know what you talking about right????
heratahora 1 year ago
Comment removed
88Wildone 1 year ago
@georgewu5 LOL what a dumb fcuk!! Listen fatass, you obviously can't dance so you are more to be pitied than censured, but damn!!! you don't know shyyte!
mambochief 11 months ago
These guys are definitely the real deal but it's so basic! And why do they keep playing salsa in between segments - how 'bout some rumba up in here??
jacobydn 1 year ago
Красиво! (Wonderfull)
andrusenko1979 1 year ago
como se llama la rola ta chila
silveitor 1 year ago
to sexy
15zidan 1 year ago
Gracias por el viedeo!!!!!! Excellente.....
mohican113 1 year ago
Thanks a lot, it is so simple now when you have break it down in this way, it seemed to be so complicated! you are fantastic
suray74 1 year ago
Rumba?
majamajamld 1 year ago
@majamajamld , Yes, it is,a basic steps of Cuban rumba....
heratahora 1 year ago
Where can I find the DVD?
deggae1 1 year ago
thank you for this video, i really loved it
shepherdjys 1 year ago
Benditos sean estos grandes. God bless you all!
Chavezaurio 1 year ago
ai MAMI!!!!
FaddaWolf 1 year ago
Comment removed
Rzyrek 1 year ago
Comment removed
mastersalsero 1 year ago
Which uploaded Rumba videos? Actually I´ve never uploaded here anything before.
I erased my commentary but actually it's still no ballroom rumba. So the best way is to post the right title for both ballroom and cuban rumba here in youtube so nobody can argue about it anymore.
Rzyrek 1 year ago
so show us, what is rumba?:D:D:D:D
19red83 1 year ago
@19red83 , DON'T BE SO IGNORANT BROTHER!!!
heratahora 1 year ago
@heratahora why do you think, i'm ignorant???
This is authentic cuban rumba.... not that, what latin dancers doing....
19red83 1 year ago
@19red83 , My friend please accept my sincere apology, the message was intented for another person, by mistake and I don't really know what happen the msg. end in your box, sorry again my brother.
heratahora 1 year ago
it's helpful for notalgia. thanks
moonindark 1 year ago
loli really need somebody to Well yah should find out
MervenArambula5 1 year ago
con esa maestra sia prendo como que no
papaupapaeueo 1 year ago
Que linda hablas mi negrita :)
Reaction03 1 year ago 2
This video is helpful where can I find the original African Rumba?
justhuman43 2 years ago
@justhuman43 this the original rumba, if you want original african dances go to africa
jcgonz31 1 year ago
Wow it never ceases to amaze me at the insane things people say I was only responding info on Youtube ,non-black and blacks in Cuba either migrated there or were bought as slaves so what are you talking about. That means they bought there culture with them.The real inhabitants are the indigenous people .Beside I can do this anyway I enjoy there showcase.
justhuman43 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This is the most basic step of the original Afro-Cuban rumba. The music is salsa but the dance they are demonstrating is the basic rumba step and how it can be applied when dancing to salsa music. It has nothing to do with samba (Brazilian music) or mambo which is a different dance. Don't confuse it with BALLROOM rumba which is actually son/bolero and was incorrectly called rhumba when it became popular in the United States in the 1930s.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT!!!!!!!
justhuman43 1 year ago
search for yoruba dance
ginsushark 1 year ago
the woman's accent is sexy lol
mico2020 2 years ago 4
ESTA es rumba!!
Lilyth2302 2 years ago
There are different styles of rumba: ballroom rumba, cuban rumba (which is similar to salsa), rumba flamenca
AnaSibiu 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
That is not rumba. im a professional Ballroom & Latin dancer. what in the world are you teaching a salsa music to rumba? sorry brotha i don't know what country your from but that's not rumba.
FreestyleBoy2010 2 years ago
It is helpful if you can read..... In the descripion you can find "Authentic Cuban Rumba basics (NOT BALLROOM) "
This kind of dance is much older than the ballroom one. "Rumba" means in spanish only to have a party....
dancingman71 2 years ago 20
@dancingman71 THE GIRL DANCES VERY WELL WITH THE CUBAN HIP MOTION; BUT THE MAN HAS NO CUBAN HIP MOTION AT ALL!
georgewu5 1 year ago
@georgewu5 THERE IS NOTHING MORE BORING THAN HOPPING UP AND DOWN ON AND ON . THE MAN SHOULD ASK HIS PARTNER WHY SHE COULD TWIST HER HIPS IN FIGURE EIGHT PATTERN?
georgewu5 1 year ago
@georgewu5 , MAN THIS IS BASIC RUMBA, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT????
heratahora 1 year ago
@georgewu5 , YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS A BASIC RUMBA STEPS, ARE YOU VISIT CUBA BEFORE???
heratahora 1 year ago
@dancingman71...the description that you quote is perfectly fine; not all of us mortals know as much as you about this kind of dancing.This video was made for the people that don`t know how to dance and want to learn...... another thing....Rumba it NOT ONLY means to have a party. All that you wrote it`s what we called COMENTARIO TOTALMENTE EN VANO
papiloo 1 year ago
@dancingman71 yeah... ballroom rumba is a misnaming of a dance derived from Danzon I believe.
sweavo 1 year ago
Comment removed
AfroMalaya 11 months ago
Comment removed
AfroMalaya 11 months ago
I like ... good!!
RUMBALIFE 2 years ago
Yes this is the REAL Rumba
quepasa3000 2 years ago 2
tiene buen culo la flaka
tanikosk 2 years ago 2
Greetings from Serbia!
RogueInitiative 2 years ago 2
Finally something real!!
yoyo712 2 years ago 12
now thats a chiquita
mightytreehugger 2 years ago 4
thank you!
poutioune 2 years ago 2
Entra en Musica, Baila como es o simplemente aprendan a bailar Rumba. No sabes nada de Rumba!!!!!!!!!!
tedancari07 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
he dances like a gorilla =))
it sux :))
d0ndutza 2 years ago
actuallyrumba guagaunco is not from africa but exclusively cuban..you wont find this anywhere in africa
chessmambo 2 years ago
you haven't seen much dancing, nor know the demographics of Cuba over last 3 centuries
Tsadik6251 2 years ago 4
@chessmambo , yes the rhythm style is from Africa,
quepasa3000 2 years ago 3
Карабма! :D
pAdoonky 2 years ago 2
MAmita contigo me voy hasta fueeeeeeera.
hymer100 2 years ago
...wow Janet...pure honey...you're the cream in my coffee,... mì amorsito...preciosa femme...
muchos besos para tì !!
esplorantes 2 years ago
It's all from Africa.
n2mymuzic 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
idiot
usuckamydick 2 years ago
awesome;) thx
thalli89 2 years ago
me la follaria
5velocidades 2 years ago
Where is she from? Her accent reminds me of a Jamaican accent, but I'm almost sure that it is a latino accent.
BrainLover2 2 years ago
She's cuban, baby! Isn't she gorgeous?
Chexpeare 2 years ago 2
Got to agree, you're right. She is a beautiful woman. See, I like cubans. Got to go there one day.
BrainLover2 2 years ago 3
Qué bella!
Chexpeare 2 years ago 2
y encima tiene una voz sexy la jodida
5velocidades 2 years ago
You're being a little bit silly. The video is entitled Rumba "Basics". Can you imagine a video like the one you mentioned being shown to a complete and utter novice/beginner to learn?
Or maybe you're just showing off a little bit...(?)
jjlljjll 2 years ago
Rhumba?
Yoursong44 2 years ago
RUMBA, this is where it came from before ballroom bastardize it and called it their own. Do a search on Cuba rumba or guaguanco and see what it's all about. Same as Samba in the Rio carnival is not ballroom Samba
HoneyTigre 2 years ago
Wow. Thanks for the info. That's a very exciting dance. also checking on the Sambo - Thanks again!
Yoursong44 2 years ago
que feo ! nadie baila la rumba con estos zapatos y esto pantalon
that girl is ridiculous
dirtyfrenchie 2 years ago
hola frenchie...clean your own shoes...they're dirty...
Chexpeare 2 years ago
hola she's definetely gorgeous but without context rumba doesn't mean anything: look at rumba demo key2cuba: it's real rumba : a collective experience inside anyone tells a story with his body
and they don't need appropriate clothes to do it . I really do love cuba and that's the very reason i don't like this video
by the way she is not even a good dancer she thinks she is but she's not.
regards but you're right my shoes are dirty!
dirtyfrenchie 2 years ago
@dirtyfrenchie Damn, you're full of crap...
Have you had your sour grapes today..?
PERIZ99 2 years ago
I love Janet!
michaellee213 2 years ago
el pibe de pantalon y camisa negra, necesita un corte de pantalones! luego cojer el curso de.... ''ingles sin barreras''
djivanwpb 2 years ago 2
Now this is what I'm talking about.
esapesadilla 2 years ago 2
is a bad video
rose180809 2 years ago
I here the guy saying "juega bo" I guess he is trying to say bosch + he is palying the trombone. I am going by these clues to find this song.
Prince738 2 years ago
I think is Jimmy bosch playing the trombone.
<