You were wrong about Sara Palin's positon on abortion. She is in favored of abortion if the fetus threatens its host life; I don't understand all of the constant bashing of this woman; Her political views aren't that much different from any of the political positions of mainstream conservatives today and, with the exception of president bush, nobody bash mainstream conservatives much to a degree like sara palin
Penn does "get it" though. What you don't understand is that when people disagreed with Palin during the election, they didn't just disagree with her, but an all out disgusting sexist hate enslaught ensued by the media, celebrities, and even SNL. The ways she was treated and portrayed were wrong. On the contrary, Republicans don't agree with Hillary Clinton, but did you see her slandered and attacked the way Palin was? I think Penn totally understands.
Don't get me wrong, I don't care for Clinton. But the reason Clinton didn't get splattered by the media and comedy is because she's way more wise and quick on her feet. (Evil if you want.) Palin's just not very sharp and takes positions begging for attack.
Set aside her far right values that make good jokes. It's still easy. Right now she is under fire for refusing to seat a Democrat in a vacant Democrat spot in the state senate. Her Attorney General pick has a history of mocking MLK.
Penn knows exactly what he is talking about, its just that he doesn't act like some screaming 20 year old kid. He approaches the issues with maturity.
Second, he did not say that all democrats are such and such way. He bases his observations on the ones he sees.
Conservatives call people "Terrorist" or "Unamerican" in every instance, but Penn never brought this up in his video. Penn likes to hear himself talk without much thought to what he is spewing.
i'm fairly certain that you miss the point that penn is trying to stress, he is saying that yes you may disagree with the person in context, but endlessly harassing someone and saying hateful things that have 0 necessity in any environment.
congratulations you pointed out all the reasons that you disagree with Palin, which are all great great reasons, but do these reasons give you a reason to endlessly harass her? to unfairly criticize and insult them? No, it doesnt.
The Republican party needs to crawl out of the political arena and either transmogrify into a party that's in touch with the concerns of the American electorate or face extinction like the Whigs. I'm hoping for the former.
People are ignorant, Bush is ignorant. It is how Bush got elected in the first place. I can believe he did not have evil intent he's just a simpleton to a point. However did he have evil intent? You don't know and neither do i. The fact is we may never know. I've long given up on the political system. With out the passage of much needed legislation for reformation of the political system we are truly doomed to continue in this cycle.
This has nothing to do with her being a women. I'm a women and I loved Hillary but I really dont like Palin. She is a liar and if she truly beleived the things she does are right then she wouldnt have to lie about them.
I totally agree with what you say about Palin. I think she's a fundamentalist nutjob who is mind-blowingly unqualified, and the fact that she is a woman does not enter into it.
you are (politically) at least as knowledgeable and intellectually astute as Penn teller. I left three comments on his video, but you managed to boil what I thought down to only one line.
"I'll conceed that he's not evil, but I won't say that he did not do evil things intentionally" For myself I would say that intent is only maybe 50% of the makeup of evil, the other 50% of evil is action.
Good video. I think the word to use instead of 'malicious' is 'venal'. I think the point is that Bush has the attitude that looting the country for his group's benefit is 'the natural order of things'. There is a certain mentality in the 'ruling class' that they have a right to do what ever for their own interest. IOW, it's their country and the rest of us are just the hired help. Make the judgment call of wether that's evil or not as you see fit.
You're not simple, you're just tedious, I don't have the desire to crawl through your bitter strawmanning in order to talk to you. There's nothing in it for me!
Bush and his cronies used us. They used us like a tool. They threw this country into bankruptsy for their own evil greed. They could care less what happens to this country or it's citizens. They have enough wealth to not care. Everything they did had a purpose and was 100% calculated. There were no mistakes. They should all be tried for treason and then hung in public on a hot day at noon. Anyone who believes otherwise is a total and complete fool.
Penn is apparently little more than what he looks like.... a big fat hypocritical redneck. He's used enough cheap rhetoric in his life that it seems Super Silly for him to get honest for the sake of a pretty politically grotesque Republican ticket.
"""i remember when you were praising Penn and Telle"""
your usual inaccurate crap... I merely pointed out the duplicity of soupX not listening to the clip in his own video. Penn merely described fairly accurately the state of law, I didn't endorse what he said beyond agreeing with that description
You were wrong about Sara Palin's positon on abortion. She is in favored of abortion if the fetus threatens its host life; I don't understand all of the constant bashing of this woman; Her political views aren't that much different from any of the political positions of mainstream conservatives today and, with the exception of president bush, nobody bash mainstream conservatives much to a degree like sara palin
Pentazoid111 2 years ago
Penn does "get it" though. What you don't understand is that when people disagreed with Palin during the election, they didn't just disagree with her, but an all out disgusting sexist hate enslaught ensued by the media, celebrities, and even SNL. The ways she was treated and portrayed were wrong. On the contrary, Republicans don't agree with Hillary Clinton, but did you see her slandered and attacked the way Palin was? I think Penn totally understands.
ajnd49 2 years ago 3
Don't get me wrong, I don't care for Clinton. But the reason Clinton didn't get splattered by the media and comedy is because she's way more wise and quick on her feet. (Evil if you want.) Palin's just not very sharp and takes positions begging for attack.
Set aside her far right values that make good jokes. It's still easy. Right now she is under fire for refusing to seat a Democrat in a vacant Democrat spot in the state senate. Her Attorney General pick has a history of mocking MLK.
DoctorMeh 2 years ago
Penn knows exactly what he is talking about, its just that he doesn't act like some screaming 20 year old kid. He approaches the issues with maturity.
Second, he did not say that all democrats are such and such way. He bases his observations on the ones he sees.
nurbSoldier 3 years ago 2
Conservatives call people "Terrorist" or "Unamerican" in every instance, but Penn never brought this up in his video. Penn likes to hear himself talk without much thought to what he is spewing.
carhac66 3 years ago
i'm fairly certain that you miss the point that penn is trying to stress, he is saying that yes you may disagree with the person in context, but endlessly harassing someone and saying hateful things that have 0 necessity in any environment.
congratulations you pointed out all the reasons that you disagree with Palin, which are all great great reasons, but do these reasons give you a reason to endlessly harass her? to unfairly criticize and insult them? No, it doesnt.
Ryuujinv01 3 years ago
The Republican party needs to crawl out of the political arena and either transmogrify into a party that's in touch with the concerns of the American electorate or face extinction like the Whigs. I'm hoping for the former.
timwmartin 3 years ago
People are ignorant, Bush is ignorant. It is how Bush got elected in the first place. I can believe he did not have evil intent he's just a simpleton to a point. However did he have evil intent? You don't know and neither do i. The fact is we may never know. I've long given up on the political system. With out the passage of much needed legislation for reformation of the political system we are truly doomed to continue in this cycle.
Verator 3 years ago
I dont agree with Penn on everything but he is right about the Liberal Democrats in this instance.
ConservativeAtheist 3 years ago
his point was that democrats don't seem to say "you're wrong" when they disagree, they tend to instead say "you're evil" or "your lying"
his point is that democrats seem to have trouble coming to grips with the fact that someone may genuinely disagree with them,
they seem to think their opinions are objectively true, and thus anyone who seems to disagree is merely lying because they are evil
Ironzealot7531 3 years ago
i dont think he missed your point, listening to your response I think you missed his point
Ironzealot7531 3 years ago
Yikes sporto, yikes. I did not watch entire video but I hope LSU does good.
p36jet 3 years ago
This has nothing to do with her being a women. I'm a women and I loved Hillary but I really dont like Palin. She is a liar and if she truly beleived the things she does are right then she wouldnt have to lie about them.
chocomeerkat 3 years ago
You are fool!
GCRU486 3 years ago
I totally agree with what you say about Palin. I think she's a fundamentalist nutjob who is mind-blowingly unqualified, and the fact that she is a woman does not enter into it.
Nykytyne 3 years ago
you are (politically) at least as knowledgeable and intellectually astute as Penn teller. I left three comments on his video, but you managed to boil what I thought down to only one line.
"I'll conceed that he's not evil, but I won't say that he did not do evil things intentionally" For myself I would say that intent is only maybe 50% of the makeup of evil, the other 50% of evil is action.
CavemanSynthesizer 3 years ago
Thanks for your comment and complements. I agree with your 50% split, that is a good way of looking at it.
Sacramentosaint 3 years ago
good comments man, penn is full of shit on that one theres good reason to hate the cheating conservatives and what they stand for
federali84 3 years ago
Good video. I think the word to use instead of 'malicious' is 'venal'. I think the point is that Bush has the attitude that looting the country for his group's benefit is 'the natural order of things'. There is a certain mentality in the 'ruling class' that they have a right to do what ever for their own interest. IOW, it's their country and the rest of us are just the hired help. Make the judgment call of wether that's evil or not as you see fit.
cehbeach 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the correction, I knew I didn't have the exact fact on that but now I do.
Sacramentosaint 3 years ago
You're not simple, you're just tedious, I don't have the desire to crawl through your bitter strawmanning in order to talk to you. There's nothing in it for me!
gratex 3 years ago
Otherwise very good vid, Penn is just trying to rationalize his evil/undefendable support for McCain/Palin
BeyondWrittenWords 3 years ago
Over 4000 people have died, over half million Iraq casualties are not even human? This is how mind works in us.
BeyondWrittenWords 3 years ago
I meant to mention the Iraqi casualties, I forgot once the camera started. Grrrr.
Sacramentosaint 3 years ago
Great video! I can't agree with you more!!!
grumpychuck 3 years ago
Thanks for the support chuck.
Sacramentosaint 3 years ago
It's your right to have your own perception of what I'm saying... and there's nothing I can do to stop you doing so.
gratex 3 years ago
Bush and his cronies used us. They used us like a tool. They threw this country into bankruptsy for their own evil greed. They could care less what happens to this country or it's citizens. They have enough wealth to not care. Everything they did had a purpose and was 100% calculated. There were no mistakes. They should all be tried for treason and then hung in public on a hot day at noon. Anyone who believes otherwise is a total and complete fool.
mobiltec 3 years ago 2
Proof?
nurbSoldier 3 years ago
Penn is a libertarian. As far as I can tell the
libertarian world view requires a rather rosy
assessment of human nature. I think this relates
to the fact that they insist that individual
freedom is the most important thing. So Penn sees
nothing but good intentions.I don't agree either.
angryislander56 3 years ago 3
No, only certain libertarians have a rosy view of humanity. But all libertarians assert that government generally makes things worse.
nurbSoldier 3 years ago
the republicans cannot win this election, but the dems can lose it.
gratex 3 years ago
I think they can win it by getting McCain/palin elected and losing the grip to Power.
BeyondWrittenWords 3 years ago
losing=maintaining
BeyondWrittenWords 3 years ago
Penn is apparently little more than what he looks like.... a big fat hypocritical redneck. He's used enough cheap rhetoric in his life that it seems Super Silly for him to get honest for the sake of a pretty politically grotesque Republican ticket.
inmendham 3 years ago
"...a big fat hypocritical redneck. He's used enough cheap rhetoric.."
do you think before you type?
gratex 3 years ago 2
"""do you think before you type?"""
useless trolling
inmendham 3 years ago
yes, you are a useless troll
thanks for the admission
Ironzealot7531 3 years ago
i remember when you were praising Penn and Teller because of their stance on libel law.
i guess that after this comment you'll have to admit that his stance on libel law was just "cheap rhetoric" as well.
but you won't do that, because
double standards give you the advantage of always being right.
and try typing a comment for once without using hypocrite, fat, redneck, silly, cheap rhetoric, and grotesque in the same paragraph.
you ungrateful, talentless, no life, welfare consuming nazi
eternalundylnglove 3 years ago 3
"""i remember when you were praising Penn and Telle"""
your usual inaccurate crap... I merely pointed out the duplicity of soupX not listening to the clip in his own video. Penn merely described fairly accurately the state of law, I didn't endorse what he said beyond agreeing with that description
inmendham 3 years ago 2