@operationnorthwoodz If there's such a thing as 'typical', yes, I've seen quite a few 'typical' HD as well as the sport bike riders. Can't just point out the Harley riders without considering that there's quite a few riders on sport bikes that don't have a clue.
Jerry's comment near the end "pull over or wave others by who want to keep a faster pace" applies everywhere. To many bikers and cagers alike in this country do not afford this courtesy (why?). Only in Europe do I experience this courtesy w/any regularity.
In Sept. 2009, I rode the Dragon on my Honda VFR 800, 3 times! The first 2 times it was dry. The third time, when I was on my way to Knoxville, it was wet. It was fun, but challenging, and it took a lot out of me.
@authenticalexful if you're riding the Dragon or any high speed road, don't you think you should already know about riding over a watery surface and using your rear brake....those are basics they teach riders at the beginner courses to get a motorcycle license. If you don't know these things, I'd recommend another hobby.
okay lets be honest here, grandpa on his goldwing isnt going to be trying to drag a knee for the first time of course this video is going to show sport bike riders going down. that being said a cruiser style bike is just as likely to go down. honestly maybe more due to dragging the exhaust actually. sport bike riders like trying to find out what theyre bike can do and the only way to find that limit is to sadly go past it. to bad track days arent cheaper or people would learn there.
Let's just say I got 60k miles of experience under my belt of sport bike riding and the only way IMO to learn to ride a certain road is to go down it a bunch of times till you get familiar with it.
Being a noob I have no (real life) support behind my comment. But I do believe that many young boys with 1000cc sports bikes tend to screw around and push their limits alot more compared to those riders with cruisers. Motorman, I believe that your comment saying "your a sport bike racist" is similar to how most adults view cars like modified hondas, nissans, etc. It's completely understandable. (at least thats my theory) Nice vid. It was alot of help
Ok, I admit it. I'm a sport bike racist. There I said it. I would NEVER let my daughter marry a sport bike, I wouldn't eat dinner with a sport bike and I would never give a sport bike a job. Either that, or no cruiser crash footage was available when I made the video. You choose.
Hah! I thought when you said that you're a "sport bike racist" that you race sportbikes in your spare time! Motorman, I'm loving your vids that you put up here; you're very funny and super cool. I'm about to get a bike for the first time as a new rider at the end of the month, and it's awesome learning things from someone as super-pro as you :)
@motorman857 OK, you admit it...that's great. I thought the whole point of riding was to get out on 2 wheels and have an enjoyable, safe riding experience. It may be true that a higher percentage of crashes occur on sportbikes, but that isn't the bike's fault. And while there are plenty of people foolish enough to ride their sportbikes in shorts or flip-flops,etc., virtually EVERY H-D rider I see fails to gear up at all. ATGATT is the name of the game. God bless.
@motorman857 dude they are just different machines. sport bikes are designed for the track and to reach high speeds, cruisers are for the street and for more "comfort".
They just have different purposes and applications.
@voyerist1 Hey, theres nothing wrong with a person using a skill he took the time to develop for making a living. Youtube welcomes these vids because they[re in the business of selling advertising and people like me (and you) watch them & they're helpful whether you spring for the full vid or not. I appreciate the motorman for helping us less skilled riders get better & safer. Jerry, I saw you @ the cycle show in Atlanta this yr & you were great but... how'd you get such a gorgeous wife?
@nedloh325 I'm a lucky man, that's how I got such a gorgeous wife. Not only can she out ride any guy out there, she's my best friend and a wonderful mother to our two grown sons. Life is good.
I didn't hear any talk about countersteering. My personal advice is ride at your own abilities and aim to string every coner together as smoothly as you possibly can. Forget what other riders are doing and string you own lines together. By doing this your find that you become a much faster safer rider than ever before. If you feel your runing wide then try a bit of countersteering and throttle through the bends gently. Learn to read the roads better and you will naturally become faster.
Jerry, I normally agree with everything you say and I love your videos. Perhaps it would help to add something about pushing on the hand grip in the direction of the turn in the places you say to look in the direction of the turn. I know it seems obvious, but when I was a brand new rider it wasn't so obvious.
Good job Mr Popo.
Have you seen A Typical Harley Rider At Deals Gap?
operationnorthwoodz 6 months ago
@operationnorthwoodz If there's such a thing as 'typical', yes, I've seen quite a few 'typical' HD as well as the sport bike riders. Can't just point out the Harley riders without considering that there's quite a few riders on sport bikes that don't have a clue.
motorman857 6 months ago
@motorman857 I ride a sportbike, and I totally agree with you on that! I would say there are far more videos of sportbikes crashing on the dragon.
lvizzle5150 1 week ago
Nice Vid ! I ride a Harley and would like to ask you to view my video " Fast Harleys
Ripping up Hwy20" so I can get a few pointer's from a pro like yourself. Every
rider can use a different set of eye's to get the skills sharp.Thanks ! keep up
the good work.
fast07dyna 9 months ago
They need to film top gear here, they should have featured this place in the episode where they tried to find the greatest road
richboy900 1 year ago
Jerry's comment near the end "pull over or wave others by who want to keep a faster pace" applies everywhere. To many bikers and cagers alike in this country do not afford this courtesy (why?). Only in Europe do I experience this courtesy w/any regularity.
pgainsback 1 year ago
From 2:00, the rider in front of the rider that crashed is amazing!
niupaidanui 1 year ago
Great video Motorman, I enjoyed my trip up the dragon all thanks to you preparing me for that ride.
docdonna57 1 year ago
In Sept. 2009, I rode the Dragon on my Honda VFR 800, 3 times! The first 2 times it was dry. The third time, when I was on my way to Knoxville, it was wet. It was fun, but challenging, and it took a lot out of me.
Russ0000 1 year ago
I want to take one of your advanced courses and I live in Florida...looking forward to learning from you.
Trishadadisha 1 year ago
too nice, just amazing, thank you man, you are the one who care about other, thank you! congratulation for this job.!
LHSR71ABB 1 year ago
@authenticalexful if you're riding the Dragon or any high speed road, don't you think you should already know about riding over a watery surface and using your rear brake....those are basics they teach riders at the beginner courses to get a motorcycle license. If you don't know these things, I'd recommend another hobby.
motorman857 1 year ago
Even with poor technique most of these accidents could be avoided by doing one very simple thing...slowing down.
aligerous 1 year ago 2
okay lets be honest here, grandpa on his goldwing isnt going to be trying to drag a knee for the first time of course this video is going to show sport bike riders going down. that being said a cruiser style bike is just as likely to go down. honestly maybe more due to dragging the exhaust actually. sport bike riders like trying to find out what theyre bike can do and the only way to find that limit is to sadly go past it. to bad track days arent cheaper or people would learn there.
jhardy66617 1 year ago
no need for name calling morons . Good video. Thanks.
HAMMERJEBDA 1 year ago
Please wear a helmet and proper protective gear.
Ride safe and sober.
Watch out for people on there cell phones.
Rockynight 2 years ago 9
Thanks for posting this vid :)
wolf28912 2 years ago 5
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we need asshole that crash, they make for good entertainment....
fruitydraws 2 years ago
dont pass till the person had pulled off the roadway, or you will get a ticket on the dragon....target fixation gets ya everytime
blainff 2 years ago
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on the dragon...? thats the rule everywhere dickhead...!
fruitydraws 2 years ago
Let's just say I got 60k miles of experience under my belt of sport bike riding and the only way IMO to learn to ride a certain road is to go down it a bunch of times till you get familiar with it.
southjersey636 2 years ago
still hate seeing myself on film,nice bunch of folks though!!!!!!!!
yellowwolf108 2 years ago
as a novice rider (have my learners permit since april and did about 7000 km) i just want to tank you for these free and usefull videos
everytime before i take my bike out for a ride i watch some of your clips and try to embed the tips in my riding style
you have extremely usefull tips and without them i would have had at least one accident, so many thanks from belgium
can i order your dvd through amazon? (i know they deliver to belgium)
tweetdezweet 2 years ago
Being a noob I have no (real life) support behind my comment. But I do believe that many young boys with 1000cc sports bikes tend to screw around and push their limits alot more compared to those riders with cruisers. Motorman, I believe that your comment saying "your a sport bike racist" is similar to how most adults view cars like modified hondas, nissans, etc. It's completely understandable. (at least thats my theory) Nice vid. It was alot of help
henrytypes 2 years ago
@ 3:04
That poor bike! :(
Sent to a watery grave....
TheReapersSon 2 years ago
Ok, I admit it. I'm a sport bike racist. There I said it. I would NEVER let my daughter marry a sport bike, I wouldn't eat dinner with a sport bike and I would never give a sport bike a job. Either that, or no cruiser crash footage was available when I made the video. You choose.
motorman857 2 years ago
Hah! I thought when you said that you're a "sport bike racist" that you race sportbikes in your spare time! Motorman, I'm loving your vids that you put up here; you're very funny and super cool. I'm about to get a bike for the first time as a new rider at the end of the month, and it's awesome learning things from someone as super-pro as you :)
EcrossH 2 years ago 3
Brown noser. LOL
motorman857 2 years ago 6
Pshhhh!!!
EcrossH 2 years ago
@motorman857 OK, you admit it...that's great. I thought the whole point of riding was to get out on 2 wheels and have an enjoyable, safe riding experience. It may be true that a higher percentage of crashes occur on sportbikes, but that isn't the bike's fault. And while there are plenty of people foolish enough to ride their sportbikes in shorts or flip-flops,etc., virtually EVERY H-D rider I see fails to gear up at all. ATGATT is the name of the game. God bless.
IAmMoparNut 1 year ago
@motorman857 dude they are just different machines. sport bikes are designed for the track and to reach high speeds, cruisers are for the street and for more "comfort".
They just have different purposes and applications.
xXwarstuserXx 1 year ago
@motorman857 What about Buells? ROFL
moose09876 8 months ago
Soooooooooooooo it costs money to see the rest?? Since when did youtube turn into commercials for professionals business'.
voyerist1 3 years ago
The same day it came on line.
motorman857 3 years ago 9
what? you want everything for nothing? You should be thankful for the clips this man if showing us for free.
RLAPRocks 3 years ago
i know.. very informative even if it's for only 3 minutes each...
alan838 2 years ago
@voyerist1 Hey, theres nothing wrong with a person using a skill he took the time to develop for making a living. Youtube welcomes these vids because they[re in the business of selling advertising and people like me (and you) watch them & they're helpful whether you spring for the full vid or not. I appreciate the motorman for helping us less skilled riders get better & safer. Jerry, I saw you @ the cycle show in Atlanta this yr & you were great but... how'd you get such a gorgeous wife?
nedloh325 10 months ago
@nedloh325 I'm a lucky man, that's how I got such a gorgeous wife. Not only can she out ride any guy out there, she's my best friend and a wonderful mother to our two grown sons. Life is good.
motorman857 10 months ago 2
I didn't hear any talk about countersteering. My personal advice is ride at your own abilities and aim to string every coner together as smoothly as you possibly can. Forget what other riders are doing and string you own lines together. By doing this your find that you become a much faster safer rider than ever before. If you feel your runing wide then try a bit of countersteering and throttle through the bends gently. Learn to read the roads better and you will naturally become faster.
benjyboba 3 years ago
Jerry, I normally agree with everything you say and I love your videos. Perhaps it would help to add something about pushing on the hand grip in the direction of the turn in the places you say to look in the direction of the turn. I know it seems obvious, but when I was a brand new rider it wasn't so obvious.
Nice video.
gershonbenfranja 3 years ago
Thanks for all of your tips, you have improved my riding 110%.
flametopguitars 3 years ago
hey i knw this is prob a stupid
question but when u say look to
were u turn how does that help?
and do u need to turn ur head to
that direction or can u just use ur
eyes for say thx :)
adiosk8erxxx 3 years ago
You turn your head and eyes and look towards the end of the turn. Your hands will follow youe eyes and steer to where you are looking.
motorman857 3 years ago
awesome man thx for the tips
im hoping i dont drop my new
bike on a u turn though LOL
adiosk8erxxx 3 years ago
I agree with what you are saying...but i like how you only show sport bikes wrecking
5INNER 3 years ago