thats only stone buddy dont be afraid to take a bite that loaders got what it takes for some 3/4 stone come on now, and try to load the truck a little more evenly and efficiently
had a 2006 komatsu wa 250 and it ran circles around the new 2009 hyundai 760 a. also had quite a few problems with the hyundai. it has less then 500 hours on it.
I won't. I already checked into that. That was part of why I chose the school I did, because they already have gov't accreditation, along with a small handful of other equipment schools. There are lots that are allowed to teach, but with most of them, the government does not recognize the certification as legitimate.
Then again, that could all change tomorrow. So maybe you'll be right after all. They seem to change things with the wind these days.
well being a "young greenhorn" i looked into everything before i spent my $12000 on school and what the IHE(accredited school) told me is that once Red Seal Certification comes in everyone in the industry will have to go to be tested and certified regardless of what they've done blah blah blah. anyways enough of that, best of luck finding work, although layoffs seem inevitable (being laid off twice myself!).
How was IHE? I almost went there too. It was a toss up between them and Fox, and I went with Fox mainly because they were closer to where I live. Did you have to spent time sitting in a class, or sharing machines with other students, etc? Or was it pretty good that way. At Fox, 100% of the time was on a machine, not wasted sitting at a table, or watching someone else operate equipment. OTS was really bad for that when I was there back in '91.
I started out going through a few introductory courses through the Local 115 before I decided to go to IHE (being right out of high school, it was an excellent choice). IHE was really good, I looked at Fox as well but I told myself if Im paying that kind of money Im going where I thought was the best. Being young I didn't mind the theory part of the course as it gave me somethen to build my skills on (I had only operated a bit before the course). continued....
.....We did not have to share machines, and one of the instructors pretty much catered to me the whole time I was there (which was great). I have long paid all that off, as well as a new truck so in my mind the course has been a very good investment.
Good to hear it. The best way to learn about a school like IHE or Fox is from guys like you and me who've been there. Much better than a sales pitch from the school itself.
It was. But it was worth every penny. I had to pay about $1300, while you, me, and the rest of us picked up the tab for the rest of it, which was quite a bit more than that.
Better than OTS I take it lol. I don't blame you for wanting to get out of the city. There is just too many idiots these days. So where are you thinking of moving too? Merritt's not a bad town.
I've been at FT since '96, and they'd be happy to keep me until I grow old and die. But as the senior operator for the company, it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth that they consistently send out the junior operators, two of whom it would be a stretch to even call operators, while I sit at home, simply because they are cheaper, and also take about twice as long to do the same job (more hours for the company).
Meanwhile, after checking into things, I usually learn that while I sit at home, the junior guys are out working, and I learn where they're working. When I ask the boss, he doesn't hesitate to tell me that they're all sitting at home, just like me. I guess he figures that I can't connect the dots or something.
There are other things as well, that I don't need to get into here, but as with all companies, they have their good points and bad points.
But for me the bad points outweigh the good ones. So it's time to move on. I actually tried that before, but came back because the other companies were worse.
As far as the certification goes, it comes down to what I've been able to observe; I see lot's of young, inexperienced operators getting hired to run new equipment for some of the better companies, while older and more experienced guys like me are getting passed over.
So the more I looked into why this is happening, the more I was told "They have certification, and you don't. And a lot of the companies won't even look at you unless you have it."
So I decided to put the theory to the test. Now I have that little piece of paper that calls me an 'operator' on hoes, cats, loaders, graders, and backhoes.
I'm going to take my time, and TRY to be careful about what companies I work for, but it's hard to know which ones to avoid.
Starting next week, I'll be applying at companies around BC, mostly in the interior, as I want to sell my house and move out of the Vancouver area to somewhere less humid.
When your gravel mining you want a loader that digs into a very hard gravel bank. Use a 988 with a spade bucket.
Reliabilty and durability trumps anything else and Cat loaders are it. The mines have tried everything else and they have gone back to Cat. The only closest competition to Cat is Komatsu.
Start producing 2 million tons of gravel a year you need good wheel loaders.
Hey Al, I was just at Michigan Ag Expo 2009, they had a bunch of big wheel loaders: a Caterpillar 924H, Deere 524K, Case 621E, and some Komatsu payloader. They were at this little area where you could drive them and play around in this big pile of dirt. But it was 18 or older only so I couldn't drive one :'( But they were fun to watch ( I liked the CAT the best) They also had a Komatsu WS250PZ on display. ITS A TOOLCARRIER! I'm a sucker for Toolcarrier!
I'll be uploading more later, but it will have to wait until I get home next week, if the wife will let me spend a few hours editing vids. I just can't do any meaningful editing on this slow ass craptop that I'm using while away.
Fox is a great school; I've really been enjoying my six weeks here.
I went there for certification purposes. It's getting harder to get a good job at a good company lately, unless one has a little piece of paper that says "I'm an operator".
I got tired of rookie operators getting good jobs just because they have certification, while I get passed over for the lack of it.
It is all about ASS Covering and thats it. Companies hire these green horns because they have a ticket and if something goes bad the company says not our fault the operator was certified.
It is these stupid companies loss they rather have a person that will loose them money. Hire a operator with years of experience he/she makes money.
Contractors I know WILL NOT hire a green horn. You can have a ticket but they will tell you shove it up your ass.
thats only stone buddy dont be afraid to take a bite that loaders got what it takes for some 3/4 stone come on now, and try to load the truck a little more evenly and efficiently
baggervic 1 year ago
looks like this loader needs a new operator
baggervic 1 year ago
not a fan of the hyundai loaders. very slow compared to others both in hydraulics and travel
mike968 2 years ago
Me neither, but it did perform better than I would have expected. I still like a JD much better though.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
had a 2006 komatsu wa 250 and it ran circles around the new 2009 hyundai 760 a. also had quite a few problems with the hyundai. it has less then 500 hours on it.
mike968 2 years ago
l.o.l. that hyundai can eat a lot of kimchi :P
daewooparts 2 years ago
isn't HEO certification still in the process of being completed, only ontario and other provinces have an actual certification...?
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
Yes. They're talking about a year out from now. No point waiting though; I had the opportunity, so I went for it.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
but when the certification comes in officially we'll all have to go back and get re-certified...
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
I won't. I already checked into that. That was part of why I chose the school I did, because they already have gov't accreditation, along with a small handful of other equipment schools. There are lots that are allowed to teach, but with most of them, the government does not recognize the certification as legitimate.
Then again, that could all change tomorrow. So maybe you'll be right after all. They seem to change things with the wind these days.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
well being a "young greenhorn" i looked into everything before i spent my $12000 on school and what the IHE(accredited school) told me is that once Red Seal Certification comes in everyone in the industry will have to go to be tested and certified regardless of what they've done blah blah blah. anyways enough of that, best of luck finding work, although layoffs seem inevitable (being laid off twice myself!).
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
How was IHE? I almost went there too. It was a toss up between them and Fox, and I went with Fox mainly because they were closer to where I live. Did you have to spent time sitting in a class, or sharing machines with other students, etc? Or was it pretty good that way. At Fox, 100% of the time was on a machine, not wasted sitting at a table, or watching someone else operate equipment. OTS was really bad for that when I was there back in '91.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
I started out going through a few introductory courses through the Local 115 before I decided to go to IHE (being right out of high school, it was an excellent choice). IHE was really good, I looked at Fox as well but I told myself if Im paying that kind of money Im going where I thought was the best. Being young I didn't mind the theory part of the course as it gave me somethen to build my skills on (I had only operated a bit before the course). continued....
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
.....We did not have to share machines, and one of the instructors pretty much catered to me the whole time I was there (which was great). I have long paid all that off, as well as a new truck so in my mind the course has been a very good investment.
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
Good to hear it. The best way to learn about a school like IHE or Fox is from guys like you and me who've been there. Much better than a sales pitch from the school itself.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
did you manage to find any work up north or around vancouver...?
thatsanawesomevideo 2 years ago
I've got a bit of work over on the Island - probably about a month's worth, which is about two weeks finished.
I'll still be looking for a job when this one's over, unless I get lucky before then.
At least on this job, I'm getting some practice operating a road grader; not a lot, mind you, but some. Maybe that'll pay off later with a future job.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
man that turbo is wineing ehh?
walston410 2 years ago
So you did end up going to operator school. Right on. That must have been expensive.
MIJE1981 2 years ago
It was. But it was worth every penny. I had to pay about $1300, while you, me, and the rest of us picked up the tab for the rest of it, which was quite a bit more than that.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Better than OTS I take it lol. I don't blame you for wanting to get out of the city. There is just too many idiots these days. So where are you thinking of moving too? Merritt's not a bad town.
MIJE1981 2 years ago
Somewhere in one of the less humid areas of BC, just outside of city limits.
Merritt would be okay, or maybe Kamloops, Rock Creek, Osoyoos, etc.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Hey just checking back, did you manage to move out of the Lower Mainland yet? Just wondering.
MIJE1981 2 years ago
Nope. Still trying to though...
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
so what happened to fast track? they let you go? just curious why your getting certified for operation? hope all is well with you
sgtsahara 2 years ago
Well Sarg, it's like this....
I've been at FT since '96, and they'd be happy to keep me until I grow old and die. But as the senior operator for the company, it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth that they consistently send out the junior operators, two of whom it would be a stretch to even call operators, while I sit at home, simply because they are cheaper, and also take about twice as long to do the same job (more hours for the company).
Continued...
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Meanwhile, after checking into things, I usually learn that while I sit at home, the junior guys are out working, and I learn where they're working. When I ask the boss, he doesn't hesitate to tell me that they're all sitting at home, just like me. I guess he figures that I can't connect the dots or something.
There are other things as well, that I don't need to get into here, but as with all companies, they have their good points and bad points.
Continued....
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
But for me the bad points outweigh the good ones. So it's time to move on. I actually tried that before, but came back because the other companies were worse.
As far as the certification goes, it comes down to what I've been able to observe; I see lot's of young, inexperienced operators getting hired to run new equipment for some of the better companies, while older and more experienced guys like me are getting passed over.
Continued...
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
So the more I looked into why this is happening, the more I was told "They have certification, and you don't. And a lot of the companies won't even look at you unless you have it."
So I decided to put the theory to the test. Now I have that little piece of paper that calls me an 'operator' on hoes, cats, loaders, graders, and backhoes.
I'm going to take my time, and TRY to be careful about what companies I work for, but it's hard to know which ones to avoid.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Starting next week, I'll be applying at companies around BC, mostly in the interior, as I want to sell my house and move out of the Vancouver area to somewhere less humid.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Nice loader, the only Hyundai's we have around here r forklifts.
cjminokc 2 years ago
Great video!~ Bob you look like your having to much fun :P next time i come up youll have to take me to see :) love ya bro
roxygurl2005 2 years ago
largest pay loader i have operated is the john deere 644 G.. for about five years.. Nice machine tons of power for farm work.. btw good video!
J12345cat 2 years ago
that loader almost sounds electric
weldcrazy10 2 years ago 2
yea i know i never really liked those hyundai loaders
tallmickey123 2 years ago
The loader operator is operating like a grandma. The machine should be bouncing digging into the bank to get a bucket full.
Nothing beats a Cat loader that is for sure.
I guess soon as you get home Nancy will hand you the honey do list lol.
Graveltrucker 2 years ago
yup i love the cats the biggest one ive ever used is a 988 and it was pretty sweet
tallmickey123 2 years ago
agreed that the operator is slow but I think the hyundai beats CAT in fuel consumption.. Nothing beats Ljungby and Volvo :)
Rigge1988 2 years ago
When your gravel mining you want a loader that digs into a very hard gravel bank. Use a 988 with a spade bucket.
Reliabilty and durability trumps anything else and Cat loaders are it. The mines have tried everything else and they have gone back to Cat. The only closest competition to Cat is Komatsu.
Start producing 2 million tons of gravel a year you need good wheel loaders.
Graveltrucker 2 years ago
How long ago did they try others? Did they get a Deere 844J or K to try? If so what was bad about it?
anewbeggining21 2 years ago
lol - I'm getting the long distance Honey Do list! She thinks I'm at school so I won't have to 'deal with my responsibilities at home'.
Yep. Lots of chores coming my way in a few days, I'm afraid...
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Awesome vid Al. Really slow operater though! cool 5*
diggerman220 2 years ago
Thanks.
We weren't really in a hurry though.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Hey Al, I was just at Michigan Ag Expo 2009, they had a bunch of big wheel loaders: a Caterpillar 924H, Deere 524K, Case 621E, and some Komatsu payloader. They were at this little area where you could drive them and play around in this big pile of dirt. But it was 18 or older only so I couldn't drive one :'( But they were fun to watch ( I liked the CAT the best) They also had a Komatsu WS250PZ on display. ITS A TOOLCARRIER! I'm a sucker for Toolcarrier!
Go to see another video from ya, Al!
WillieWonka928D 2 years ago
You'll be 18 B4 U know it, Willy. No sweat.
Thx 4 the words.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
great video
dog12008 2 years ago
great video I couldn't even notice that it was unedited footage. I could watch stuff like this all the time.
NanooseResident 2 years ago
Lots more coming later, John.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
Does the operator only have 1 arm?
Beautiful country you are in, such a change form the usual.
69rd96 2 years ago
Don't know about the 'one arm' thing, Ron.
I'll be uploading more later, but it will have to wait until I get home next week, if the wife will let me spend a few hours editing vids. I just can't do any meaningful editing on this slow ass craptop that I'm using while away.
Fox is a great school; I've really been enjoying my six weeks here.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
nice video ...but why did you went to fox? i mean, you operate already equipment...does it was a perfectionning course?
equipmentfan93 2 years ago
I went there for certification purposes. It's getting harder to get a good job at a good company lately, unless one has a little piece of paper that says "I'm an operator".
I got tired of rookie operators getting good jobs just because they have certification, while I get passed over for the lack of it.
Hopefully it will make a difference.
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
It is all about ASS Covering and thats it. Companies hire these green horns because they have a ticket and if something goes bad the company says not our fault the operator was certified.
It is these stupid companies loss they rather have a person that will loose them money. Hire a operator with years of experience he/she makes money.
Contractors I know WILL NOT hire a green horn. You can have a ticket but they will tell you shove it up your ass.
Graveltrucker 2 years ago