if ur going to make up a whole clone racing engien and put it on that peace of shit i wouldnt even think of driving it unless it was on a margay or a cyote fame
@fatharmonix Anywhere affordablegokarts(DOT) com... any go kart place. just make sure the clutch match your sprocket size and the clutch is a 3/4" bore
Iv taken the govener out of my honda clone 6.5 hp engine and plan to get a new carbaretor do i need a new cam or not? If i do need a new cam what els do i need for the engine if i get a new carburetor and had taken the govener out? Please help!!!!
@jefff1397 If you have taken the governor out you need to replace the fly wheel with an aluminum one. The higher RPMs will lead to the stock fly wheel to break.
@briggsandclones im buying stuff off there to tune a real honda 6.5HP engine, gonna buy a $100 cam, got a 24mm mikuni, roller rockers, gonna manufacture custom pushrods, air filter holder, exhaust, intake and exhaust manifolds, machine the head, make gaskets out of gasket paper, fit a pulse fed pump, drill and tap holes, and all that for a school project. for $290 i get the pump, the engine, any parts i buy, and a clutch.
hey i just bought the same engine. i put it on my go kart and found out that it idles sooo high that it starts engaging the clutch and going without pushing the trottle. does anyone know how to fix this or how to change the idle speed?
@jefff1397 you use bike cable and then under the fuel tank there is a govener sping where you connect it to this helps because it makes it quicker i will have a video soon on how to do this.
@Geminimissions because some times they dont have one that is exsactly what you want most of them are basicly stock or too exspensive and also alot of go karting is being able to say you built it
sorry bud but....to put that much money into a hundred dollar engine is just plain stupid not only do those mods add almost no power but you should have started with a genuine honda those clones have about the same metal used in frying pans,those sites that sell "performance" parts for small engines are to get people like you to buy parts thats make almost no difference....also why spend 1000 or so dollars on your engine and slap it on a 50$ frame? for $1000 i would buy a twin 18hp Briggs!
Buy a twin 18HP Briggs. Gear it the same ratios. You'd beat me for about a few seconds before I'd fly past you. No replacement for displacement, but modifications to take their toll.
@briggsandclones well right there iv proved your 20hp theory wrong, that clutch will only do 8hp, after that the motor is to powerful and it will just burn the clutch and the cart will barely move
You're an idiot... you can burn that "8HP" clutch up with a 2HP motor... this clutch is "rated" for 3,6000RPM. I think we can both safely say I have gone MUCH past that rating.
Your point? Turbocharge a car. 7-10psi. Oh no, it's gained power, torque, AND now has gone "over" the manufacturers intended uses!
Now we can sit and watch and it'll burn up in seconds!
Get real. It won't last as long, that's it. I baby the clutch like a m*ther.
@briggsandclones buddy iv put a 8hp rated clutch on a 11hp engine ya know what happened.....i didn't move barely at all and made alot of clutch smoke....the kart wasn't even drivable ...i don't even think you know what your talking about.....there wouldn't be ratings on clutches if they didn't mean anything....
That clutch was roasted then. I have a video of me BABYING this clutch. You're an idiot, they have ratings for a reason, yes. You take it OVER that rating, it doesn't self-implode. You'll get shorter life and more slippage in comparison with a motor <8HP.
@briggsandclones yes i agree taking the clutch a little over the rating is fine...like a 9hp engine with a max 8hp clutch...... but your saying your engine puts out 20hp thats more than double the recommended HP i dont think the clutch would hold up if your engine put out that much power....
@spikerbrad23 lol so was i, but if you knew how it worked then you would know you can use a modified engine like this one with a clutch rated for lower hp only really matters how much hp the engine has when the clutch is engaging, this engine might have 20hp but that is only going to be at high rpms well after the clutch is already engaged, now yes if it has an unreal amount after its engaged, enough to make the clutch slip at high rpms which this engine doesn't then yes the clutch would burn up
@enel1221 ya its possible the clutch could still engage and work but i dont think it would last long when then engine is putting out more than double the recommend power....however it could i suppose
@spikerbrad23 well like i said the engine doesn't put out 20hp before it catches it might not even be putting out 8, but like he said he babies the clutch so as long as he doesn't just floor it, just accelerate slow until its fully engaged
@enel1221 Exactly. Thank you. It may not be making 20, but I'm pretty sure it's close around there. May be getting back into this project this summer.
@spikerbrad23 i agree first off to produce "20"hp in one of these motors you have to rev like a weedeater and to be able to move that much air you have to have higher lift cam and in doing so your motor will run poorly at lower rpms thus with a stock clutch which ingages at say oh 2500 rpm your kart may not even go so your clutch will prbably survive because you cant even use it heres a tip get a clutch with that has differant springs in the kit and get a looser gear that use that motor well
@bobrossftw ya i agree with you i dont think he understands that his motor cant really produce that much power if it did his 8hp rated clutch would just burn into dust
@bobrossftw you couldnt be more wrong first offweed eaters because from being a 2 stroke and small they rev past 15000 an four stroke hitting that much is almost impossible and second minidragbike on youtube has vids of gx 200 engines pushing way more than 20 hp spinning in th 8000 range alsso he can be making 20 hp these engines are hp monsters like the gx 390's
@jmoney321123 you dont understand what you are talking about ya weed eaters spin real high its a figure of speech and i was not doubting his ability to produce 20hp i was saying that if he was producing that much he would need to spin much higher than a stock cam would allow which is around 4500-5500 rpm on a basic stock motor and if you do some research like i have then you would know that these motors can revv to 12000 pretty easy. engines are a compramise and if you dont get that then go away
@bobrossftw fool i buid these motors and and have seen the best non can rev to 12000 i flathead briggs cant even rev that high the most a billet rod can take is 10000 or maybe 11000 if your lucky but no honda or honda clone could think to hit 12000 in this life time and if you find one or a vid of one show it too me and i will take back everything i said. also more rpms dont neccesarily mean more hp the more rpms you have the wider your powerband can be trust ive built many engines
@Geminimissions no offense but you can build a nice 350 chevy for the money we put into these engines when we were racing the L-head briggs it was nothing to sink 3 grand into one
i don't belive that it has at least 20 hp :p, a buddy of mine has a 200 honda clone bike, runs like crap, only thing you can do to those engines to get more power is changing your compression ratio and mounting a bigger carb an modding your cam to make the valves open more
@briggsandclones Noob! i would belive like 15 horsepower:p change your carb to a koso PWK 34 mm and port your manifold to make it have better flow,and your manifold should have the same volume as your cylinder, but its much easyer if you wwant to have a fast cart is to get a snowmobile engine or a real honda gx390;)
Why the hell would a 196cc motor need a 34mm carburetor? That's just EXTREMELY over carbed. It wouldn't run for two craps o.O
Why port my intake manifold? It's not a restriction. My intake volume... the... oh wow. This is a INTAKE MANIFOLD. NOT a intake PLENUM with different velocity characteristics. We are NOT talking about cars over here, where the plenum needs to be tapered and/or modified to gain equivalent flow to each cylinder -.- newb
Any clutch can take any amount of power, it just depends how you treat the damn motor. I slowly accelerate off the line... one reason for the clutch, another was the extremely rigged throttle cable, lol.
whow why dont u just do what i did i buildt a 13hp briggs ohv engine with a turboed supercharger it ran great until the rod broke at about 8000rpm o n its got custom valave springs so thats why it would run 8000
@digdug132 a turboed supercharger is a superchager with a turbo the turbo forces the air in to the blower or super chager and then it forces the air in to the motor so i builds a shit load of boost and i have have it govened at 8000 it ran 10350rpm when i destroyed the first one
lol man i have a 6.5 honda clone and i got it brand new for 100 bucks....so i doubt you spent 1000-1500 bucks on this thing...well lets put it this way if you did, you got ripped lol
@partytime334 We got a longer throttle cable and ran it under the engine and up the back so that it pulled from the back rather than the front. Then secured it to the engine throttle. Works great!
I could, but the footprints are different, clutch would be a bitch if it used a 1" diameter shaft, and a couple other things. I just enjoy modifying motors.
ahahahaha soooo gay my 1984 yamaha srv could smoke that thing. and it cost me $150 used, 4 strokes suck!!!!! and fuck sump oil, lifters push rods and timing. kid you wouldent know motors if I beat you over the head with one... so do us all real mechanics a favor and go back to playing in the sand box you are just a little kid.
When flywheel first came out, it was $175. Rod was $79. Manifold adaptor was $49. that's $300 right there. Stop complaining. Cam was $50 + shipping. Rockit key was $10. Mikuni was $60. Push rods were $35. Bolt kit $25. 14cc head $40. SS valves $60. 26lbs springs $25. Billet retainers and keepers $65. 1.2:1 ratio rockers $40. Lash caps $25. Flat Top Piston $55.
There's plenty more. When this shit first came out, it was expensive as hell. Get over it, I wasn't lying.
i looked at the arc racing web site would you recamend u build kit DJ-1005for a mini bike, will i need a sepret fule tank for this kit...do i nee the fule pump...will this kit run on gas or alc.
want to get a 6.5 clone for mini bike but i like speed and thay dont have very high rpm what would be some easy mods to give these 6.5 higher rpm... plese reply
Yank off the rod and flywheel and put on ARC rods and flywheels, 8 degrees advanced, 1.2:1 rockers, 18 pound springs, 14cc head, and a 22mm Mikuni and a Flat Top piston with a straight header and call it done.
dude comet does to... if u raced like i do then u would know that u dumb asian... go back to ur country..u should know that they sell manuels for those because ur country makes the manuels for them...
LOL, to my knowledge, comet builds TAV's, and clutches. Dunno about the rest, and if you're idiotic enough to beleive that I didn't build this myself, cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get the FUCK over it.
Your full of shit you dont got 1k in the motor lol clone are only like 600. i have a 6.5 too with flat top lighten flywheel strocker kit long rod 18lb springs shaved head stock carb with 125jet set on methanol with s pipe i can turn mine 13000rpm on the stand but when racing only 7max these motors are bombs waiting to go off.
u are so full of shit why would u spend a grand on that i can buy that engine *except in black for $260 lol and u spend at thousand dollars on parts and it's not pushing 20hp 10 12 at the max i do samll engines ass well and my dad is a mechanic take your bullshit and shove it technineriderTEH is right
it's funny you say its producing more than 20hp, those centrufical clutches (THE ONE ON YOURS) ONLY are rated (the heaviest duty one) for 10hp. at 15 or more that clutch would EXPLODE. so nice try :)
They're rated at how much power they can take before they start slipping due to the excess power... generally the higher the HP, the bigger the load you're carrying, and thus, that's what the clutch is rated for.
3600RPM is what it's made for, any RPM higher (after it completely engages), it's just like having a direct chain drive...
Listen you fish head fuck, a 2008 crf 150R has a 39mm carb, 4 titanium valves and rev's to 13000 rpm, IT PUTS DOWN 21 HORSEPOWER. Your trying to say your pile of shit industrial motor makes more than 20? IT REVS to 3600 RPM YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. crf 150r (HIGH COMPRESSION) 4 titanium valves rev's to 13 000, your's 200cc 2 steel valves rev's to 3600 HAHAHA YOUR FULL OF SHIT FAGGOT.
The governor is removed smart one. 3600RPM? With all those mods? If I can rebuild an engine (which I did), why would I NOT remove the governor while adding $1000's of parts in it?
all this tech babel about some shitt leaf blower (joke) engines. his mouth popping off at a hundred miles a minute abotu all the mods and money wasted could have been used to mod a real honda motor 1.6l or bigger. but i do give the guy props since instead of paying out the ass for the real honda motor he got the clone and used teh extra money on mods to make it just as good or better than its counterpart. *shrugs*
ok alright i will admit i was a little over the top with my comments as well. like i have said before i like your videos i am a subscriber and keep up the videos.
ok fair enough... you dont need to do a dyno run. (they are only like 35 dollars) ALL i think you need to show to me and the rest of the people that say you arnt making 20hp is some simple clams from real companies: I.E -"adding our camshaft to you clone motor GAURENTEES a 800hp horsepower gain over stock" (that was a joke) just stuff like that in your description from their websites and i will believe you ok. gesh
Well to be quite honest a few of my comments may be a bit off, while I was building engines at THIS stage (this video), I was still "going by the rules" doing bolt ons and getting high HP estimates.
These days, I saw SCREW HP estimates, just work with what you got. I port my own stuffles now, ect.
i did miss the flat top piston and the advanace timing (which by the way does not do all that much) so i will give you that but you should have read my original post as i mention almost everything you called me out on. you have a good motor its better than mine. but you are not making 20hp i said you could be making 18 just because i was trying to end this gay internet fight. honestly you cant be making over 15hp...like i said SHOW THE DAMN NUMBERS. i am done
Advancing timing does a good amount of power gain. Lol, I said about 20 sounded right compared to others. Notice how I NEVER argued about my power, I just argued about how you set the fact that Clones can't be easier to have power gains on than other engines (they do). And unless you pay for a dyno run, I ain't running it.
first of all i dont want to argue with you on this its gay to argue on the internet...
anyway...i did mention the cam as major the didnt realise you have "RATIO" rocker i figured you just went stock rockers. if you new anything (WHICH I THINK YOU WOULD) you would have gotton a flywheel from a smaller motor or one that ways less atleast. you clamed a stock flywheel could do 7k (rpm) so why upgrade if its the same weight. and your little simple candy cane header doesnt do much. SEE PART 2
1) Uh, sorry, in case you don't know, there are no "bolt on" swappable "lighter" flywheels unless you went with a Honda Aluminum.
2) A stock flywheel CAN do 7k, although I HIGHLY do not recommend it. I'd say around 5.5k-6k, and even then, still a ticking time bomb.
3) Why upgrade? Because in case you don't know, advancing ignition does increase power, however, kickbacks are more occurent - a lighter flywheel = less momentum to keep the engine spinning when you first start it = PAIN.
look i love your motor but you are not making 20hp and your not running alky of you are so didnt say so. the only really significant mods you have are 14cc head and flywheel and a cam every thing else would get you up to 8hp so those 3 mods would not bump you up 12hp. you did a could job on your engine but you are not making 20hp, more like 15 maybe maybe maybe 18hp maybe.
WHEN you show numbers i will believe 20HP right now you cant have more than 15HP, adding an airfilter exchaust and 90 main jet can no way in hell give you 2HP
Then it's called you have NOT worked with a OHV motor. Flatty boys won't get the same power gains as Clones. Alky on Clones will get you .5-1HP gain. Flatty? Holy crap... 3-4HP tuned right.
haha wow.. theres no way your putting out 20hp. maybe 9hp at the most.. the only way you could get 20hp is if u run on methanol and have a 400+ billet cam, and a clutch will not support 20hp.. sorry..
Though I don't blame you, I doubt you could tell a difference.
ARC Racing is plain proof that this shit is possible. These make 9HP with a jet, de-govern, filter, and a header. On Dyno.
So let's see... I have all that... plus... Billet flywheel, 8 deg advanced timing, billet rod, 1.2:1 rocker arms, chromoly push rods, SS valves, 26lbs springs, billet retainers + keepers, Torq-Tube, UNI filter, Super Dyno X 275 cam, 14cc head, flat top piston... lol.
i know its not a flathead. im just saying theres no way your putting out 20hp. first of all the only things giving you more power is maybe a little from the rockers, the cam will only give 1-2hp at the most. the valves retainers, push rods, and the rod wont add power, they just help it handle higher rpms and more power.. but who knows i could be wrong.. im just saying cuz ive seen a briggs intek fully built on a dyno wit just about everything you have done. and he only got 15hp to the crank.
all that money on the engine, and youre using a centrifugal clutch?
why not just invest in a torque converter or tranny?
soulevs 5 months ago
if ur going to make up a whole clone racing engien and put it on that peace of shit i wouldnt even think of driving it unless it was on a margay or a cyote fame
The67camro 10 months ago
me and my buddy got one of these greyhounds but we dont know where to get a centrifugal clutch for it. help?
fatharmonix 10 months ago
@fatharmonix Anywhere affordablegokarts(DOT) com... any go kart place. just make sure the clutch match your sprocket size and the clutch is a 3/4" bore
Mijaycapri79 7 months ago
were did you get the go kart at?? ?
GRAFFITIKING52 11 months ago
What octane do you use in your kart! the manual says 91 plus but I used 87
Screendoor8 1 year ago
do you know where i could get thoughs parts in australia
benozifed 1 year ago
Iv taken the govener out of my honda clone 6.5 hp engine and plan to get a new carbaretor do i need a new cam or not? If i do need a new cam what els do i need for the engine if i get a new carburetor and had taken the govener out? Please help!!!!
jefff1397 1 year ago
No cam necessary.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@jefff1397 since you removed the govener i recommend you change the conrod & bearing, the stock ones arent ment to be run without the govener
travi3so67 11 months ago
@jefff1397 If you have taken the governor out you need to replace the fly wheel with an aluminum one. The higher RPMs will lead to the stock fly wheel to break.
defiythelie 11 months ago
whats the website?
iRePcA 1 year ago
Affordablegokarts
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones im buying stuff off there to tune a real honda 6.5HP engine, gonna buy a $100 cam, got a 24mm mikuni, roller rockers, gonna manufacture custom pushrods, air filter holder, exhaust, intake and exhaust manifolds, machine the head, make gaskets out of gasket paper, fit a pulse fed pump, drill and tap holes, and all that for a school project. for $290 i get the pump, the engine, any parts i buy, and a clutch.
also will buy 10.9 grade bolts
nos676 1 year ago
i coulda sold you my b&s racing engine that puts out 13 hp for 700
95steveexplorer 1 year ago
hey i just bought the same engine. i put it on my go kart and found out that it idles sooo high that it starts engaging the clutch and going without pushing the trottle. does anyone know how to fix this or how to change the idle speed?
jefff1397 1 year ago
@jefff1397 you use bike cable and then under the fuel tank there is a govener sping where you connect it to this helps because it makes it quicker i will have a video soon on how to do this.
kadsjr 1 year ago
briggs 7 stratton
alexsuchapimp 1 year ago
where can i get that clutch !?
NASTYTHEBOY 1 year ago
Still got the original carb ? Would you be willing to sell it and how much ?
makoshark26 1 year ago
i bought the same but with a indy car body and dr peper logos. got it for 250.
balak121 1 year ago
i got the same frame but my frame has a wing
choloskater96 1 year ago
20hp my ass your fulla shit
MrAlverez 1 year ago
Just a quick question... If you put so much into that engine, why didnt you just buy a high-performance one in the first place?
Geminimissions 1 year ago 2
@Geminimissions because some times they dont have one that is exsactly what you want most of them are basicly stock or too exspensive and also alot of go karting is being able to say you built it
bobrossftw 1 year ago
It'd much much more lol.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
what compression is in it
RawrTheWord 1 year ago
@RawrTheWord if he is running a flat top piston and a 14cc head at least 12;1
bobrossftw 1 year ago
sorry bud but....to put that much money into a hundred dollar engine is just plain stupid not only do those mods add almost no power but you should have started with a genuine honda those clones have about the same metal used in frying pans,those sites that sell "performance" parts for small engines are to get people like you to buy parts thats make almost no difference....also why spend 1000 or so dollars on your engine and slap it on a 50$ frame? for $1000 i would buy a twin 18hp Briggs!
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
Why not?
Buy a twin 18HP Briggs. Gear it the same ratios. You'd beat me for about a few seconds before I'd fly past you. No replacement for displacement, but modifications to take their toll.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones ok...you think your engine puts out around 20 hp right?....what clutch do you have?
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
Crappy Max Torque Centrifugal.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones well right there iv proved your 20hp theory wrong, that clutch will only do 8hp, after that the motor is to powerful and it will just burn the clutch and the cart will barely move
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
You're an idiot... you can burn that "8HP" clutch up with a 2HP motor... this clutch is "rated" for 3,6000RPM. I think we can both safely say I have gone MUCH past that rating.
Your point? Turbocharge a car. 7-10psi. Oh no, it's gained power, torque, AND now has gone "over" the manufacturers intended uses!
Now we can sit and watch and it'll burn up in seconds!
Get real. It won't last as long, that's it. I baby the clutch like a m*ther.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones buddy iv put a 8hp rated clutch on a 11hp engine ya know what happened.....i didn't move barely at all and made alot of clutch smoke....the kart wasn't even drivable ...i don't even think you know what your talking about.....there wouldn't be ratings on clutches if they didn't mean anything....
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
That clutch was roasted then. I have a video of me BABYING this clutch. You're an idiot, they have ratings for a reason, yes. You take it OVER that rating, it doesn't self-implode. You'll get shorter life and more slippage in comparison with a motor <8HP.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones yes i agree taking the clutch a little over the rating is fine...like a 9hp engine with a max 8hp clutch...... but your saying your engine puts out 20hp thats more than double the recommended HP i dont think the clutch would hold up if your engine put out that much power....
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
You really think all motors make their max HP at engagement RPM?
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@spikerbrad23 lol...you are just some idiot that doesn't understand how a clutch works so you just see numbers and say it won't work...
enel1221 1 year ago
@enel1221 i guess your right...iv only built a go kart and a mini bike by myself how would i ever know how a clutch worked........
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
@spikerbrad23 well i'm just glade you can admit it
enel1221 1 year ago
@enel1221 i was being sarcastic bud....i know exactly how a clutch works.....
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
@spikerbrad23 lol so was i, but if you knew how it worked then you would know you can use a modified engine like this one with a clutch rated for lower hp only really matters how much hp the engine has when the clutch is engaging, this engine might have 20hp but that is only going to be at high rpms well after the clutch is already engaged, now yes if it has an unreal amount after its engaged, enough to make the clutch slip at high rpms which this engine doesn't then yes the clutch would burn up
enel1221 1 year ago
@enel1221 ya its possible the clutch could still engage and work but i dont think it would last long when then engine is putting out more than double the recommend power....however it could i suppose
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
@spikerbrad23 well like i said the engine doesn't put out 20hp before it catches it might not even be putting out 8, but like he said he babies the clutch so as long as he doesn't just floor it, just accelerate slow until its fully engaged
enel1221 1 year ago
@enel1221 Exactly. Thank you. It may not be making 20, but I'm pretty sure it's close around there. May be getting back into this project this summer.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@spikerbrad23 i agree first off to produce "20"hp in one of these motors you have to rev like a weedeater and to be able to move that much air you have to have higher lift cam and in doing so your motor will run poorly at lower rpms thus with a stock clutch which ingages at say oh 2500 rpm your kart may not even go so your clutch will prbably survive because you cant even use it heres a tip get a clutch with that has differant springs in the kit and get a looser gear that use that motor well
bobrossftw 1 year ago
@bobrossftw ya i agree with you i dont think he understands that his motor cant really produce that much power if it did his 8hp rated clutch would just burn into dust
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
@bobrossftw you couldnt be more wrong first offweed eaters because from being a 2 stroke and small they rev past 15000 an four stroke hitting that much is almost impossible and second minidragbike on youtube has vids of gx 200 engines pushing way more than 20 hp spinning in th 8000 range alsso he can be making 20 hp these engines are hp monsters like the gx 390's
jmoney321123 1 year ago
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bobrossftw 1 year ago
@jmoney321123 you dont understand what you are talking about ya weed eaters spin real high its a figure of speech and i was not doubting his ability to produce 20hp i was saying that if he was producing that much he would need to spin much higher than a stock cam would allow which is around 4500-5500 rpm on a basic stock motor and if you do some research like i have then you would know that these motors can revv to 12000 pretty easy. engines are a compramise and if you dont get that then go away
bobrossftw 1 year ago
@bobrossftw fool i buid these motors and and have seen the best non can rev to 12000 i flathead briggs cant even rev that high the most a billet rod can take is 10000 or maybe 11000 if your lucky but no honda or honda clone could think to hit 12000 in this life time and if you find one or a vid of one show it too me and i will take back everything i said. also more rpms dont neccesarily mean more hp the more rpms you have the wider your powerband can be trust ive built many engines
jmoney321123 1 year ago
@jmoney321123 read what i wrote again and think for a second and btw these motors can be built to run at 12000rpm easy, pricey but easy
bobrossftw 1 year ago
this kart is worth $50 without the motor lol and you can buy those 6.5 clone engines for $119 lol
uzaqq 1 year ago
It would kill your little Raptor.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
No offense, but I dont think you could possibly put $1000-$1500 dollars into a $150 engine...
Geminimissions 1 year ago
Don't make me add it up.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@Geminimissions no offense but you can build a nice 350 chevy for the money we put into these engines when we were racing the L-head briggs it was nothing to sink 3 grand into one
1kymoonrunner 1 year ago
@Geminimissions very easy stroker kit $450, rod 60, piston 23, flywheel 105-110, carb set up 100, shall i go on go to agk.com look for yourself
bobrossftw 1 year ago
i don't belive that it has at least 20 hp :p, a buddy of mine has a 200 honda clone bike, runs like crap, only thing you can do to those engines to get more power is changing your compression ratio and mounting a bigger carb an modding your cam to make the valves open more
kebabtralla2k 1 year ago
That's essentially what I've done... so stfu nubbles ^^ )
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones Noob! i would belive like 15 horsepower:p change your carb to a koso PWK 34 mm and port your manifold to make it have better flow,and your manifold should have the same volume as your cylinder, but its much easyer if you wwant to have a fast cart is to get a snowmobile engine or a real honda gx390;)
kebabtralla2k 1 year ago
Why the hell would a 196cc motor need a 34mm carburetor? That's just EXTREMELY over carbed. It wouldn't run for two craps o.O
Why port my intake manifold? It's not a restriction. My intake volume... the... oh wow. This is a INTAKE MANIFOLD. NOT a intake PLENUM with different velocity characteristics. We are NOT talking about cars over here, where the plenum needs to be tapered and/or modified to gain equivalent flow to each cylinder -.- newb
GX390 = ooborphail:)
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones maybe better flow?:p, noob:p
kebabtralla2k 1 year ago
@kebabtralla2k ya and that is how internal combustion motors work congrats
bobrossftw 1 year ago
i dont think it is any were near 20 hp because i dont think thats clutch could support that much hp
lilrambo1994 1 year ago
Any clutch can take any amount of power, it just depends how you treat the damn motor. I slowly accelerate off the line... one reason for the clutch, another was the extremely rigged throttle cable, lol.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
@briggsandclones not true trust me i know......
spikerbrad23 1 year ago
HEY WHERE DI U GET THE CLUTCH AT?
travi3so67 1 year ago
It's a Max Torque, there are alot of clutches around.
briggsandclones 1 year ago
HEY WHERE DI U GET THE CLUTCH AT?
travi3so67 1 year ago
whow why dont u just do what i did i buildt a 13hp briggs ohv engine with a turboed supercharger it ran great until the rod broke at about 8000rpm o n its got custom valave springs so thats why it would run 8000
digdug132 2 years ago
What do you call a turbo supercharger? Lol. Valve springs won't get you to 8000, they'll just LET you run 8000 :)
briggsandclones 2 years ago
@digdug132 a turboed supercharger is a superchager with a turbo the turbo forces the air in to the blower or super chager and then it forces the air in to the motor so i builds a shit load of boost and i have have it govened at 8000 it ran 10350rpm when i destroyed the first one
digdug132 2 years ago
Wtf?
briggsandclones 2 years ago
look at my vids
laret9 2 years ago
i love the corvette body
tsohmas 2 years ago
lol man i have a 6.5 honda clone and i got it brand new for 100 bucks....so i doubt you spent 1000-1500 bucks on this thing...well lets put it this way if you did, you got ripped lol
orangepop1234 2 years ago
Nah man, it's when Clones first started appearing. I bought a billet fly for $200... it's not $100.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
*now
briggsandclones 2 years ago
yeah i said i got it for $100 and it was originally $199.99 a local store around my area "princess auto" had them on for sale around christmas...
orangepop1234 2 years ago
How do you hook up the throttle linkage to a 6.5 ohv Harbor Freight engine on a small go-kart?
dccawley 2 years ago
i have a mini bike and im using a dirt bike throtle and have a homemade connection plate that pulls on the throtle arm and carb arm with springs
orangepop1234 2 years ago
drill a hole threw a bolt and put it in the largest hole and bolt it down thats how i did it
alexkerr423 2 years ago
i have the same question if you figure it out pleas tell me
partytime334 2 years ago
@partytime334 We got a longer throttle cable and ran it under the engine and up the back so that it pulled from the back rather than the front. Then secured it to the engine throttle. Works great!
dccawley 2 years ago
@orangepop1234 no no no he means after all the extra go fasties it was 1500 they can be exspensive
bobrossftw 1 year ago
by what ive heard, i DOUBT this thing making 20hp..
is there any head work done? (not the bolt in bits)
DeadlySausage 2 years ago
As in porting and whatnot? Don't think so lol. I'm thinking about building another one of these...
briggsandclones 2 years ago
yeah you should, get alot of work on your head, intake and exhaust ports should be bigger considering you do have an aftermarket carb.
and at the sam time you should get your valve bored and get some bigger valves, my valves are taken from a chevy diesel 6.5L
also should get .040" taken off your head and get a high compression piston..
trust me, do that and youll be havin a lot more fun.
DeadlySausage 2 years ago
i got a yz85 motor in decent frame it wud smoke that thing
dirtrider383 2 years ago
That's nice. But for now it's a engine sitting on the floor.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
lol y dident you just get a bigger motor
ban0003 2 years ago
I could, but the footprints are different, clutch would be a bitch if it used a 1" diameter shaft, and a couple other things. I just enjoy modifying motors.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
ahahahaha soooo gay my 1984 yamaha srv could smoke that thing. and it cost me $150 used, 4 strokes suck!!!!! and fuck sump oil, lifters push rods and timing. kid you wouldent know motors if I beat you over the head with one... so do us all real mechanics a favor and go back to playing in the sand box you are just a little kid.
elpackaCOOP 2 years ago
@elpackaCOOP god shut up faggot
paintballforever24 2 years ago
Is it ok to run a NOS kit on a stock one of these?
roboman79 2 years ago
"Hole shot" nitrous kits? If so, they're ghetto.
Save up $200 and build a proper one, retrofit it to a go kart, and then later one you can put it on your car. Literally.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
Wouldn't it have been better to buy a $1500 bike engine?
saturnv3 2 years ago
Probably :) :P
briggsandclones 2 years ago
@saturnv3 ya but for cart guy its more about the wtf factor
bobrossftw 1 year ago
How did you get the throttle wire hooked up to that
TooGooDForYou13 2 years ago
you hook up the cable to the butterfly on the carb
pivotboy63 2 years ago
if you have the ARC flywheel do you need to file your fly wheel key or dose the flywheel provide advance timing with the stock key?
gokartcrazzy1114 2 years ago
Has the 8 degree key.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
that's like 400 worth of mods MAYBE
Poppaclutch51 2 years ago
When flywheel first came out, it was $175. Rod was $79. Manifold adaptor was $49. that's $300 right there. Stop complaining. Cam was $50 + shipping. Rockit key was $10. Mikuni was $60. Push rods were $35. Bolt kit $25. 14cc head $40. SS valves $60. 26lbs springs $25. Billet retainers and keepers $65. 1.2:1 ratio rockers $40. Lash caps $25. Flat Top Piston $55.
There's plenty more. When this shit first came out, it was expensive as hell. Get over it, I wasn't lying.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
what happened to the body
jmoney321123 2 years ago
would this kit be fast on a mini bike
grant199712 2 years ago
i looked at the arc racing web site would you recamend u build kit DJ-1005for a mini bike, will i need a sepret fule tank for this kit...do i nee the fule pump...will this kit run on gas or alc.
pleese reply
grant199712 2 years ago
Gas, and you're gonna blow the rod and flywheel out. It's both stock.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
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grant199712 2 years ago
want to get a 6.5 clone for mini bike but i like speed and thay dont have very high rpm what would be some easy mods to give these 6.5 higher rpm... plese reply
grant199712 2 years ago
Yank off the rod and flywheel and put on ARC rods and flywheels, 8 degrees advanced, 1.2:1 rockers, 18 pound springs, 14cc head, and a 22mm Mikuni and a Flat Top piston with a straight header and call it done.
No cams, then you gotta go with 26lb springs.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
hey how fast does the kart go because im getting a 6.5 for mine
rubixmasta12 2 years ago
Decently fast with a stock 6.5.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
you should have just bought a honda engine in the first place
blooballs86 2 years ago
Clones are 75% cheaper.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
my kart runs a clone motor but i race on dirt tracks its so diffrent
shack185mill 2 years ago
live axle would have been my first modification
jstine1234 2 years ago
The body of that kart is sweet!
bigmaaack 2 years ago
I should fix it up lol.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
good job u can read the manuel on the motor from comet good job
MavisRacing 2 years ago
Built it up from scratch boy. Comet doesn't build clones. Only comet part on this is their cheap 3/4" bushing clutch.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
dude comet does to... if u raced like i do then u would know that u dumb asian... go back to ur country..u should know that they sell manuels for those because ur country makes the manuels for them...
MavisRacing 2 years ago
LOL, to my knowledge, comet builds TAV's, and clutches. Dunno about the rest, and if you're idiotic enough to beleive that I didn't build this myself, cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get the FUCK over it.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
could have gotten a good dirt bike for the money you waste on a toy go cart.......
jeepers2655 2 years ago
And a dirt bike isn't a toy?
Least I can build up a motor now. Yay.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
acrophobia4u 2 years ago
Yes I do. I have a flat top. With new rings.
Not a lightened flywheel, a ARC Billet flywheel.
Stroker kit = fail, they're $300 right there.
Long rod = LOL. Me too. In my motor and in my pants.
18lbs springs = 26lbs springs, which means stronger valve components such as pushrods and all that shit too.
13,000 freerev? ,You're a crazy ass nigger.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
Why you think its crazy for??
becuz i can rev my kart 13k rpm and not grenade?
acrophobia4u 2 years ago
No shit sherlock.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
Call me Mr.Risky
acrophobia4u 2 years ago
jesus christ kid! invest that money into a car or a truck........you need to get laid BAD!
hobogeorge19 2 years ago
I don't really give a crap for women XD
briggsandclones 2 years ago
u are so full of shit why would u spend a grand on that i can buy that engine *except in black for $260 lol and u spend at thousand dollars on parts and it's not pushing 20hp 10 12 at the max i do samll engines ass well and my dad is a mechanic take your bullshit and shove it technineriderTEH is right
sdylke 2 years ago
Lol, that's a race prepped engine. Stock engine, just no governor, sealed up, and oil sensor removed. Nothing special.
With the mods I listed, in a flatty, 10/12 is a good estimate. Not on OHV's smart one.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
that aint a honda that is a blue max 6.5 hp engine retails for like $150.00
jgibson71 2 years ago
Read the title...
briggsandclones 2 years ago
it's funny you say its producing more than 20hp, those centrufical clutches (THE ONE ON YOURS) ONLY are rated (the heaviest duty one) for 10hp. at 15 or more that clutch would EXPLODE. so nice try :)
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
LMAO... right.
They're rated at how much power they can take before they start slipping due to the excess power... generally the higher the HP, the bigger the load you're carrying, and thus, that's what the clutch is rated for.
3600RPM is what it's made for, any RPM higher (after it completely engages), it's just like having a direct chain drive...
Don't talk shit unless you know shit.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
Listen you fish head fuck, a 2008 crf 150R has a 39mm carb, 4 titanium valves and rev's to 13000 rpm, IT PUTS DOWN 21 HORSEPOWER. Your trying to say your pile of shit industrial motor makes more than 20? IT REVS to 3600 RPM YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. crf 150r (HIGH COMPRESSION) 4 titanium valves rev's to 13 000, your's 200cc 2 steel valves rev's to 3600 HAHAHA YOUR FULL OF SHIT FAGGOT.
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
The governor is removed smart one. 3600RPM? With all those mods? If I can rebuild an engine (which I did), why would I NOT remove the governor while adding $1000's of parts in it?
briggsandclones 2 years ago
how fast dose that cart run? with all your modification?
C0LEgasmaxx 2 years ago
No idea.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
how heavy is the engine?
darkeyce02 2 years ago
30-35lbs.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
where do you get that stuff!?!?!?!?!? Please tell me, I really want to pull some more power out of my 9hp briggs.
joshstep1 2 years ago
Briggs and Clones are completely (parts wise) different.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
sooooo, there are no upgrades for mine?
joshstep1 2 years ago
Maybe, I have no idea. Go to 4cycle dawt com.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
all this tech babel about some shitt leaf blower (joke) engines. his mouth popping off at a hundred miles a minute abotu all the mods and money wasted could have been used to mod a real honda motor 1.6l or bigger. but i do give the guy props since instead of paying out the ass for the real honda motor he got the clone and used teh extra money on mods to make it just as good or better than its counterpart. *shrugs*
WhoYouCantSee 2 years ago
I can buy all that and get a Honda. Sure. Just that when I buy it, I'll have no idea about anything. I built this to learn =)
briggsandclones 2 years ago
no one cares about your gocarts story
icecreamfairy1234543 2 years ago
yea with the same lift you could probably make a 26mm work. that way when you do even mod mods you will already have a carb ready
br8kurface 2 years ago
ohh and with that motor you could probably do a 24 or 26 carb
br8kurface 2 years ago
millimeter of a carb?! :O
briggsandclones 2 years ago
ok alright i will admit i was a little over the top with my comments as well. like i have said before i like your videos i am a subscriber and keep up the videos.
br8kurface 2 years ago
Same =)
briggsandclones 2 years ago
ok fair enough... you dont need to do a dyno run. (they are only like 35 dollars) ALL i think you need to show to me and the rest of the people that say you arnt making 20hp is some simple clams from real companies: I.E -"adding our camshaft to you clone motor GAURENTEES a 800hp horsepower gain over stock" (that was a joke) just stuff like that in your description from their websites and i will believe you ok. gesh
br8kurface 2 years ago
IT DOES? 800?! YES!
lol.
Well to be quite honest a few of my comments may be a bit off, while I was building engines at THIS stage (this video), I was still "going by the rules" doing bolt ons and getting high HP estimates.
These days, I saw SCREW HP estimates, just work with what you got. I port my own stuffles now, ect.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
i did miss the flat top piston and the advanace timing (which by the way does not do all that much) so i will give you that but you should have read my original post as i mention almost everything you called me out on. you have a good motor its better than mine. but you are not making 20hp i said you could be making 18 just because i was trying to end this gay internet fight. honestly you cant be making over 15hp...like i said SHOW THE DAMN NUMBERS. i am done
br8kurface 2 years ago
Advancing timing does a good amount of power gain. Lol, I said about 20 sounded right compared to others. Notice how I NEVER argued about my power, I just argued about how you set the fact that Clones can't be easier to have power gains on than other engines (they do). And unless you pay for a dyno run, I ain't running it.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
first of all i dont want to argue with you on this its gay to argue on the internet...
anyway...i did mention the cam as major the didnt realise you have "RATIO" rocker i figured you just went stock rockers. if you new anything (WHICH I THINK YOU WOULD) you would have gotton a flywheel from a smaller motor or one that ways less atleast. you clamed a stock flywheel could do 7k (rpm) so why upgrade if its the same weight. and your little simple candy cane header doesnt do much. SEE PART 2
br8kurface 2 years ago
1) Uh, sorry, in case you don't know, there are no "bolt on" swappable "lighter" flywheels unless you went with a Honda Aluminum.
2) A stock flywheel CAN do 7k, although I HIGHLY do not recommend it. I'd say around 5.5k-6k, and even then, still a ticking time bomb.
3) Why upgrade? Because in case you don't know, advancing ignition does increase power, however, kickbacks are more occurent - a lighter flywheel = less momentum to keep the engine spinning when you first start it = PAIN.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
look i love your motor but you are not making 20hp and your not running alky of you are so didnt say so. the only really significant mods you have are 14cc head and flywheel and a cam every thing else would get you up to 8hp so those 3 mods would not bump you up 12hp. you did a could job on your engine but you are not making 20hp, more like 15 maybe maybe maybe 18hp maybe.
br8kurface 2 years ago
Which is close enough to 20.
Major stuff... flywheel? It's almost the same weight!
Lol... major would be the cam, ratio rockers, flat top piston, 14cc head, advanced ignition timing, and header.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
WHEN you show numbers i will believe 20HP right now you cant have more than 15HP, adding an airfilter exchaust and 90 main jet can no way in hell give you 2HP
br8kurface 2 years ago
Then it's called you have NOT worked with a OHV motor. Flatty boys won't get the same power gains as Clones. Alky on Clones will get you .5-1HP gain. Flatty? Holy crap... 3-4HP tuned right.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
haha wow.. theres no way your putting out 20hp. maybe 9hp at the most.. the only way you could get 20hp is if u run on methanol and have a 400+ billet cam, and a clutch will not support 20hp.. sorry..
dustinwaller87 2 years ago
Sadly, this is NOT a flathead.
Though I don't blame you, I doubt you could tell a difference.
ARC Racing is plain proof that this shit is possible. These make 9HP with a jet, de-govern, filter, and a header. On Dyno.
So let's see... I have all that... plus... Billet flywheel, 8 deg advanced timing, billet rod, 1.2:1 rocker arms, chromoly push rods, SS valves, 26lbs springs, billet retainers + keepers, Torq-Tube, UNI filter, Super Dyno X 275 cam, 14cc head, flat top piston... lol.
briggsandclones 2 years ago
i know its not a flathead. im just saying theres no way your putting out 20hp. first of all the only things giving you more power is maybe a little from the rockers, the cam will only give 1-2hp at the most. the valves retainers, push rods, and the rod wont add power, they just help it handle higher rpms and more power.. but who knows i could be wrong.. im just saying cuz ive seen a briggs intek fully built on a dyno wit just about everything you have done. and he only got 15hp to the crank.
dustinwaller87 2 years ago