Macedonians believed in Greek gods, spoke Greek but had a different dialect, they used similar governments as many Greek states, participated in the Olympics, and used Phalanxes. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, than Macedonia might just be Greek!
@spartako filus and tell why then, when your fucking country took southern Macedonia in the first world war, dig in all the places possible to find the grave of Alexandar and don't find nothing ? I will respond for you ... In few years from here all the world will see the real truth, not the one that the political view explane too all the blind people !
The Macedonian are with the arian pure blood, white skin ... and when i look at some greek i notice that the skin is black ... go back to southern africa or eastern asia you idiot ! The Makedon not Makos ( like every greek dumb ass, give a explaning for all the words, like the world is yours ... that thing will kill greece ) exist from, even your tribe don't know about the existence of Europe.
Why, if the real Macedonia is Greece, Filip attack the Greek polis at the south Greece and force them to unite with him ? and ... why the name isn't Greek when everybody spoke about Filip and Alexander but they call them Macedonians ?
this is true story and you fags (greeks) are wrong and you spread it along so you can get paid you gay fuks we dont spread it macedonia is rsing and we will kill you faggs
@CommissarASSHOLE you think everything greeks umm hello macedonia is our name and macedonia is a powerful country u better watch soon u will get f**** up in your asss
@ratzP It's funny how stupid you american whiners are. You scream at someone for supposedly being stupid and then you stupidly spelled moron as morron. You are the only moron here MORON!!!
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
It is sad how history is been falsified in order to accomodate the military interests of the superpowers in the Balkans (and how a small, recently formed Balkan country is adopting a HUGE lie in a desperate attempt to acquire an identity and survive). I could talk modern Greek to Alexander and he would understand most of it. But he would not understand a single word out of the Slavonic-Bulgarian language the Skopjans speak ("Macedonians" as they call themselves)
I am macedonian from 'Skopje' and I don't think that we have any conection with 'Aleksandar'... He was greek-macedonian. But, nothing is impossible... Anyway, i am possessed with ancient history of Greece. :)
@MrLeinad88 transparent comment coming from a gypsy!!! greek/macedonian...HaHa, read the Herodotus, Plutarch or whatever ancient writer and open ur eyes beyond ur nazi propaganda... greek nation, my ass, since when??? and who made u a country??? think nazi, think!!!
GUYS WHATEVER YOU SAY MACEDONIA IS GREEK. Alexandros and Phillipos are greek names. The star of Vergina symbolises the 12 greek gods and the 4 elements of the nature. Everything is greek.
This is a lie. According to Swiss iGENEA, Macedonians are: 30% antic macedonians, 20% teuton, 15% hellenic, 15% slav etc.
On the other hand, Greeks are: 35% hellenic, 20% phoenician, 20% slav, 10% teuton, 10% Ilyrian, 5% antic macedonians. So Greeks have only 5% of antic macedonian blood unlike Macedonians who have 30% of antic macedonian blood. This is an official swiss genetic research.
@l3stat3 time out macedonians have a germanic crusadier tribe in its ethic pool gene and the greeks 10% less? HOW!?!?!? greeks not even full 50% hellenic and only 5 % off slav ethicity LMFAO u guys r exactly like us LMFAO mUTTS!
And something else: "Ancient Macedonians were ancient Balkan peoples, who spoke a language insufficiently known. The most prominent king of the ancient Macedonians was Philip II. Macedon, Demosthenes called him Barbarin. Although Demosthenes brought together all the Ancient Greeks to oppose Roman Macedonians, Philip II. defeated the Greeks at the Battle of Chaeronea August 2, 338th BC., followed. spared the city of Thebes. "
Only the Greek and Bulgarian people learn that Macedonia belongs to them, I am Croatian and I have never learned or heard that Macedonia belongs to Greece, the Macedonians, it may request the return of all conquered territories, but no, they are seeking their own country as he was before they between the four divisions: "The Romans enslaved Macedonia 168th BC and is divided into 4 sections, which were forbidden intercommunication.
Do any of you ignorant Greek viewers have EARS? How many references does it take in this documentary to depict that Greece was Greece,and Macedonia was Macedonia? A country to the north. You are all brainwashed because as of 1913 all your school texts were changed. LISTEN TO HISTORY!! If Greece was Macedonia....then WHY would it wage war against itself? Quote "PHILIP'S army found their way barred, by more than 30,000 GREEKS". Same country? I think NOT.
@GoranMak Macedonia was not a country. It was a separated CITY-STATE, like sparta, corinth, athens. Your slavic asses weren't in the balkans at that time. am i wrong? ancient macedonians were speaking greek. am i wrong?
@TheAgoraki You are wrong because there is other evidence my friend. Read above to toma's comments. Or 13stat3's comments.
Also, ask my GRANDFATHER, who was a police officer in MACEDONIA when Greece took the southern part of the country. Our last name was originally Macedonian, but it was CHANGED to a Greek name, as was the town he lived in. Lerin. All of a sudden it is Florina. I don't question people who were ACTUALLY there. Many have stories.
@GoranMak Also - please google maps of Macedonia in 1903. Please get an atlas from any other country than Greece. Do yourself that favour. Have a nice weekend!
Please Ppl have some respect for those that came before us,shame on you all,you have a great history&much to be to take pride in but all you's seem to want today is put your own heritage down with insults...................ignorance must be bliss you ingrates
Please Ppl have some respect for those that came before us,shame on you all,you have a great history&much to be to take pride in but all you's seem to want today is put your own heritage down with insults...................ignorance must be bliss you ingrates
I love Macedonian History. I'm still trying to find the book " Macedonia: From Phillip II to Roman Conquest" or something like that. Having a hard time finding it.
the pathetic country of the fyromonkeys has nothing ancient
you know there is another documentary. on the banana national television where God talks to the monkeydonians! ohohohoho and they really believe it!!!
YOU GREEK STUPID PPL STILL TODAY CAN NOT FORGET WHO KICK YOU ASS IN THOUS DAYS...IT WOS FILIP FROM MACEDON THE BARBARION AS YOU CALL HIM,THIS IS NOT YOUR HISTORY,IT SAYS ABOUT MACEDONIANS ATAKING GREECE ,YOU HAVE TAKEN FROM US SOUTHEN PART OF OUT COUNTRY WHICH IS NOT YOURS !!!!!!!
Do you know what means Phillipos???? I know... Do you know what means the star of Vergina? I know. Do you knwo what means the name Alexandros? I know. What you know slavic monkey? So i am the real Macedonian, i come from Thessaoniki and you can come any time you want. Dont forget the power of greek army. Fucking ants.
@igorivanovski1977 Slavic barbarian, stop with your bullshit claiming that you, the slavs have anything to do with Alexander the Great or "ancient" Macedonians because you don't!!! The "ancient" Macedonians were an Indo-European people, not slavic so go back to Bulgaria you motherfucker!!! The name that you carry so called Macedonia, is a fake name! The glory of Alexandre the Great belongs to Illyrians/Albanians since his mother was from a southern Illyrian province called Epirus!!! So fuck off
Alexander spoke only the Greek language,he had greek education and his teacher was Aristotelis!About Chaeronea,this battle was a civil war!Fillipos won this battle and he is the first Greek who gave a peace in this area!Fillipos is his name,not Fillipofski!I'm Macedonian,but first of all i'm Greek.Not a slav!If you want to be Macedonian,you need to be Greek first!Thrace,Macedonia,Thessaly,Epirus,Aegean and Ionion sea are departments of Greece,not a countries!Stop propaganda-save history!
@Realistis6432 The Macedonians spoke a very archaic form of the Greek language that was barely understandable to your average Greek who spoke the Attic Dialect. Your typical Macedonian spoke the Dorian dialect with some Illyrian and Thracian words thrown into the mix. Still very Greek people though, it's just that they were considered backwater. Kinda like the Epirotes were.
@Alexandros1294 Hey kid!I studied all dialects at University of Epirus(phylosophy-i'm a teacher),and i know better than you my science.All these dialects have filiation only from Greeks!Maced-onski(xaxaxa)from FyroMonkeydonia are Slavs and they speak the Bulgarian lingua!They haven't any reduction with Alexander and his legacy.It's a ridicule!But your fucking country saluted this fucking shit-slav nation with this name:Macedonia.Consequently,i believe that you have not opinion about this matter.
@Realistis6432 Why are you blaming me for something my incompetent government did? I can have an opinion if I want to have one, God damn it. I'm on Greece's side. I never said the Macedonians were not Greek. Look at my channel, it's fucking Greek.
@Alexandros1294 My central nervous system is very sensitive with this matter.It's the biggest crime of all history and i hate those Americans politicians(Bush),because my country has many problems with this fucking shit-Slav nation!Sorry,you have justice!
HAAHAH STUPID GAY GREECK STILL THINK THAT ALEKSANDER WAS GREECE GREKE NEVER EHIST HE WA ONLY LITLE TOWN NEAR FROM ATHENS MACEDONIA WAS EMPIRE OF MACEDONIANS NEVER HELL ASS
Oliver Stone's Alexander, although a very mediocre movie, depicts Phillip's army brilliantly and as accurately as we can. Especially impressive is the understanding in the movie of the white shield unit, an elite infantry unit that was trained to keep up with the cavalry, providing a link between the phalanx and the heavy cavalry, and a support base for missile units.
@Alexandros1294 : Within 20 years after Alexandros' death they were in a bad way. His successors kept bribing them. They were notoriously hard to bribe. Eventually one of the Successors sent them to Bactria and they were given all of the toughest assignments in an effort to wipe them out.
@lebarosky The Silver Shields. Yes, I remember them. They gave Antigonus Monophtalmus quite a hard time while he was campaigning against Eumenes. Seleucus had them go to Bactria right? Or was it Antigonus that had them in small units through Bactria to get rid of them?
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
"I happen to know, and I will demonstrate in a subsequent chapter of this history, that these descendants of Perdiccas are, as they themselves claim, of Greek nationality. This was, moreover, recognized by the managers of the Olympic games, on the occasion Alexander, however, proved his Argive descent, and so was accepted as a Greek and allowed to enter for the foot-race. He came in equal first." Herodotus book 5. 22.
there are like 5-10 greek people that are writing coments in every time on every clip for macedonia and greece , 2005 defender how much are you paid for the job you having???
i watch you tube at last 5 mounths, and you have comments everywhere, how did you mennage,
i geting tired from you ,
the fact that there is at least 200 000 macedonians in province of aegian macedonia tells enough, these people has no rights to learn macedonian or give macedonian names of newborn children
first of all its your problem if you are tired or not, second rgere is nt any "aegean" Macedonia, third Rainbow party received 2800 votes last June, how you figure out that there are 200.000 in Greece?
and for the end answer to the facts instead of personal comments to others
the nee data in britanika enciclopedia says 200 000 and these people know greek and macedonian, i have greek relatives they don`t care about nation so they are greeks thy says it is better for the prosper in the life not to be macedonian in greece, they have greek names and speak greek and macedonian but they are real macedonians not like the newcomers Magires from asia minor that come in the 20`
tell me than, how do you explain why greek goverment do not allow to these slavophone greeks to learn their own slavic language at schools and give slavik names to their newborn children??? and also i have more than 30 relatives of those "slavophone greeks" but i`m not greek i`m macedonian
do you believe that there are any slavophone greeks??? or you just blindly support grfeek nazi politics ??
wake up man, wake up be realistic and admit it least to yourself
Greece has not any obligation to provide such rights to a group of less than 3000 ppl in a population o 3.000.000 Greek Macedonians that their target is the same as on 1949 to annex Macedonia to Fyrom
what about of the other french autor from 1950 and his book about the macedonian lexic and language from 16 century/??? it is same as macedonian today!
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or maybe that is the language of those "slavophone greeks" ? should i remind you again that this slavic language was forbiden in greece after occupaing aegian macedonia, also i ask again why it is not allowed to learn that slavic language in schools. why why???
whatever helps you sleep at nighta and forget the crualties your people did to my people. What your ancestors and you people do today to my people can be compared to what Hitler did. Thumb me down. I dont give a fuck. I am just telling the truth.
the fairly uniform Hellenistic Greek spoken and written from the 4th century bc until the time of the Byzantine emperor Justinian (mid-6th century ad) in Greece, Macedonia, and the parts of Africa and the Middle East that had come under the influence or control of Greeks or of Hellenized rulers. Based chiefly on the Attic dialect, the Koine had superseded the other ancient Greek dialects by the 2nd century ad.
you greeks know that Greece was established as a country in the 1830 's right?
and if you want to believe that Macedonia is Macedonia and not Greek just visit Rome and see the big plaque next to the Colloseum.. it is a map of Europe showing how big the Roman empire was.. you may notice that in that region it says in big letters "MACEDONIA" /
from what I have heard ancient macedonians were a greek tribe too, thats at least what they teach us here in the US...because alexander wanted to get revenge against the persians for burning down athens
Phillip didn't want to conquer the rest of Greece. He wanted to unify Greece unter his command. That's why the south city-states resisted and that's why Sparta didn't participated in Alexander's campaign. In the Council of Corinth at 337 and 336 B.C. it was signed the UNION of all greek city states under the command of Macedonia, not their obedience. Also all the words that described the macedonian army are greek: phallaga, sarisa, pezaiteroi, etairoi, peltastai, toksotai and others.
Macedonia is the land that belongs to the grand sons to the biggest imperator Alexander the Great king of Macedonia.You cant split that lang you tried in 1913 but nothing now your scared to lose your history couse in eu we can claim our old flag and our teritories.MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS
We were poor and we still maybe poor! But! You can not take away our pride!!! The whole world has there eyes on you. You are not a world state! And you are no ALEXANDER!!!!!!! You will loose and we will win! The children of Alexander!
This is the truth! King Filip of Macedon wanted to uniting the greek city statis by force!!!! if he was greek he wouldnt have to! By force he molded the nation that today calls themselfs Greece!!!
Phillip wanted to unify all Greeks UNDER HIS COMMAND. That's why the rest of the Greeks resisted. They thought that he wanted to enslave them. Athens and Thebes had a repuplic government at that time while Macedonia was a kingdom. It was reasonable to resist against someone who wanted to chance their style of government (at least that's how they thought of). Also the Spartans thought that a Panhellenic campaign wasn't important without them as leaders. That's why they didn't participated.
Macedonia, in old Egyptian inscriptions "Mage donia" which in Arabic became to be pronounced "Magduniye" was important centre of Mithraism in northern Africa. Yaghut Hamudi, traveller, geographer and historian in his book "Majamal baladan" says "Macedonia is the name of Egypt in the Greek language".
Ibn Al Faghih Ahmad Hamedani 4th Arabic century geographer and historian quoting Ibn Yasar says,-" Macedonia is Egyptian territory". Al Moghadasi 5th Islamic century geographer in "Hosn Al Taghasim", Ibn Al khardazbeh in Dalmask and Almamalek", Masoudi in the book of Moruj Alzahb and many others confirm that in those days Macedonia was Egyptian territory.
LOL With the exception of early Islamic historians and the knowledgeable, Ibn Maghta, Tabari and Dinvari have called Alexander in their writings Iranian.
VOUKEFALOVSKI,PARMENIOVSKI,FILIPPOVSKI,PERSEOVIC,KLITOVSKI,ARISTOTELOVSKI and mony.athers is.SLAVOBULGARIAN FROM VARDARIA...??? ouxaxaxaouxaxaxaouxaxax!!!!
also, as the doco clearly states... king phillip of macedon wanted to unite the greek city states! it is greece even today and macedonia is a greek city state today part of the greek democracy... why is that so hard to understand?
Ancient Macedonia was monarchy, the Greeks were looking at Macedonia like a strange and barbarian land. With the Maegali Idea from 19 century this was changed and not you says that Macedonia was Greek city state, lol.
The Macedoian wanted to be greek the greek saw them as little more then barbarians who didn't know the right end of a spear.
I think most people see it as the greek looking down on the macedonians when they where equals then rushing out to take all the credit when the macedonians shook the world.
@Archangel7999 you are totaly fucked up...propably brainwashed slav...dont worry...u can still wake up...macedonia is GREEK and will ever be...and I am not talking for now only...macedonians were Greeks ,same Gods, same coultoure,same language...they were axepted in the olympics years before Philip unite all Greeks except Spartans.t h i n k a b o u t i t!!!
@1976gs heheheheheheheehheeheeh fucking stupid mother fuckers so now filp uited u soo tell me if he was greek like you said why he even bother to unite u when he could've been fucking philosopher like the other fags in your fucking "history"
@MrTrajce222 you are totaly fucked up...yes we had many...philosopher,poets,scientist,and warriors...many...open a book...u fucking retard shit of slavs...we will fuck until you will be no more...wait and see who is muther fucker...yes I fucked your mother and grandmother too.your sister is fucked by my coleg from the navy...u know navy piece of shit?or maybe you ve got any destroyer to stick in your ass besite your small lake...?!!!what ?u dont ve see?sorry...it is all ours...
@MrTrajce222 and if you dare come and try to take a cm of land,air or our see...if u count our coast is double time the african mother fucker slav..that is why u allways dreamed of making your way out here...sorry we ve about 20 millions of BAD OTHER FUCKER GREEKS TO FUCK U...YOU WILL DISSAPEAR FROM THE FACE OF EARTH LIKE U NEVER BEEN ON...MACEDONIA IS GREEK CUNTS FROM SLAVOSHIT PLACE...
there was no greece back then! it was theves, athens, sparta etc etc macedonia was just another city state... this doco actually proves that alexander the great was hellenic, spoke hellenic, educated by hellenes and spread hellenic culture to the rest of the world... it's pretty simple to understand actually! hmmm a typical case of the arrogance of ignorance
Alexanders letter ran thus: Your ancestors came into Macedonia and the rest of Greece and treated us ill, without any previous injury from us. I, having been appointed commander of chief of the Greeks
Alexanders letter to Darius as given to us in
Arrian, anabasi.
Taken by websfor. org/alexander/arrian/book2a. asp
Caesar laying all other thoughts aside, determined to pursue Pompey, whithersoever he should retire, to prevent his drawing together fresh forces, and renewing the war. He marched every day as far as the body of cavalry he had with him could hold out, and was followed, by shorter marches, by a single legion.
Pompey had issued a proclamation at Amphipolis, enjoining all the youth of the province, whether Greeks or Romans, to join him in arms. But whether this was with intent to conceal his real design of retreating much farther, or to try to maintain his ground in Macedonia, if nobody pursued him, is hard to determine
DRINKING OF CASTOR OIL was one of the penalties the Bulgarian comitages were using for the Greek native speakers in the areas they were trying to convert into the exarchate. Greek was forbidden. Also they were burning down Greek churches and killings and tortures were common sometimes with the blessings of the ottomans. You animals thank god for the Macedonian revolution 1904. NEVER BULGARIAN EXARCHATES AND OTTOMANS IN MACEDONIA AGAIN.
Macedonia was, is and will always be the north region of Greece! Is it so difficult to understand it? All the historians and archaeologists all over the world admit that! How pathetic is it not to have a history and make stories out of your mind?
ancient Macedonia was was Greek state 3000 years ago thing where very different... king phillip united ancient Greece and Alexander the great spread ancient Greek culture and values to the rest of the world...1:23 listen carefully!
Redrougegirl you are a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with victims like this poor unemployed charlatan Slavjanski is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
alexadrovski,filipovski,olympiadof,parmeniovic,voukefalovski,ptolemeovic,kleopatrova,klitof,hifestinof,nearhof,aristotelof is....slavs from vardaria??? ouxaxaxouaxaxax!!!! you make my day vardarian!!!
disney.........stop to steal the vardarians heros.Donald-dack is from skopie the capital city of vardakistan-bulgaristan and the real name is donalof-duskovski!!!
Macedonians were monarhs, and Greeks were democratic. So they have nothing in common. When Philip and Alexander conquered greek states after that Alexander mixed macedonian and greek culture-that was caled helenism and he spread it in Asia.
Ancient greece had cities - states like ATHINA , SPARTA , MAKEDONIA etc.All of them were GREEKS.This is the TRUE like it or not MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND GREEK.YOU CANNOT CHANGE HISTORY WITH LIES AND PROPAGANDA.MAKEDONIA FOREVER GREEK.fyro forever vardaska.
Go and see what the whole planet learn in schools - except vardarska - they all learn one same thing : ANCIENT MAKEDONIA = GREECE & ALEXANDER THE GREAT = GREEK KING.
Just ask a japanese or an american or a portugal to tell you.You will dissapointed.Sad for you but TRUE.
And by the way dont you ever go to a musiem , for example in england , where they have some ancient makedonian parts.Under the parts it is written : GREECE - MAKEDONIA.
Its sad to learn a different history from the whole planet isnt it ??? If i were you i would feel very bad.
DRINKING OF CASTOR OIL was one of the penalties the Bulgarian comitages were using for the Greek native speakers in the areas they were trying to convert into the exarchate. Greek was forbidden. Also they were burning down Greek churches and killings and tortures were common sometimes with the blessings of the ottomans. You animals thank god for the Macedonian revolution 1904. NEVER BULGARIAN EXARCHATES AND OTTOMANS IN MACEDONIA AGAIN.
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
"The Macedonia Slavs, of whom there are 2,000,000, are subjects of the Sultan of Turkey. They are Bulgarians and belong to the Bulgarian Church".
Peter Roberts - Immigrant races in North America - 1910 - p. 36.
"Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
""Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity"".
We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
[FYROM's Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov in an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999]
Macedonians believed in Greek gods, spoke Greek but had a different dialect, they used similar governments as many Greek states, participated in the Olympics, and used Phalanxes. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, than Macedonia might just be Greek!
Frankcastle522 3 months ago
Your proud of being greek will kill you ... Fact : your economy goes in shit, pulling other countries with it !
Opikiki 3 months ago
@Opikiki everyone is already pulled in this shit, but u probably havent noticed it yet.
tassosvogs 1 month ago
@spartako filus and tell why then, when your fucking country took southern Macedonia in the first world war, dig in all the places possible to find the grave of Alexandar and don't find nothing ? I will respond for you ... In few years from here all the world will see the real truth, not the one that the political view explane too all the blind people !
Opikiki 3 months ago
The Macedonian are with the arian pure blood, white skin ... and when i look at some greek i notice that the skin is black ... go back to southern africa or eastern asia you idiot ! The Makedon not Makos ( like every greek dumb ass, give a explaning for all the words, like the world is yours ... that thing will kill greece ) exist from, even your tribe don't know about the existence of Europe.
Opikiki 3 months ago
Why, if the real Macedonia is Greece, Filip attack the Greek polis at the south Greece and force them to unite with him ? and ... why the name isn't Greek when everybody spoke about Filip and Alexander but they call them Macedonians ?
Opikiki 3 months ago
ancient macedonia was just like spartans = GREEKS
So stop this stupid fyro-vardarskian propaganda.
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
TalosGreekRobot 4 months ago
this is true story and you fags (greeks) are wrong and you spread it along so you can get paid you gay fuks we dont spread it macedonia is rsing and we will kill you faggs
lerinism 4 months ago
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meine Meinung zu der frage MAKEDONIENS
Devoj4E 6 months ago
This is a documentary showing how the ancient Macedonians destroyed the Greek armies and conquered ancient Greece?
it says that phillip unified the greek states,you do know what unificaiton means?
inquestFLASH 8 months ago
Macedonian language = GREEK DIALECT
Macedonian religion = GREEK GODS
Macedonian folk = DORIAN GREEKS
MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS, FYROM = SLAVS
CommissarASSHOLE 8 months ago
@CommissarASSHOLE you think everything greeks umm hello macedonia is our name and macedonia is a powerful country u better watch soon u will get f**** up in your asss
MrMkd4life 7 months ago
@MrMkd4life hey stupid answer the man,,do u know what "unification" means??
Phillip unified the GREEK states,,that included his state MACEDONIA ,,MORRON!!!
ratzP 7 months ago
@ratzP It's funny how stupid you american whiners are. You scream at someone for supposedly being stupid and then you stupidly spelled moron as morron. You are the only moron here MORON!!!
YappyRaccoon 5 months ago
@YappyRaccoon <<< Bulgarian Hybrid = Mustafas cheap whore = MORRRON
ratzP 5 months ago
@MrMkd4life
Macedonians live in the THE Macedonia (not Paeonia were you live)> You are essentially ethnic Bulgarians (apparently ashamed of your own ethnic roots)
GemistusPletho 6 months ago
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@GemistusPletho
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
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psychozmusic 6 months ago
It is sad how history is been falsified in order to accomodate the military interests of the superpowers in the Balkans (and how a small, recently formed Balkan country is adopting a HUGE lie in a desperate attempt to acquire an identity and survive). I could talk modern Greek to Alexander and he would understand most of it. But he would not understand a single word out of the Slavonic-Bulgarian language the Skopjans speak ("Macedonians" as they call themselves)
Choreftis 8 months ago
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I am macedonian from 'Skopje' and I don't think that we have any conection with 'Aleksandar'... He was greek-macedonian. But, nothing is impossible... Anyway, i am possessed with ancient history of Greece. :)
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psychozmusic 6 months ago
@MrLeinad88 transparent comment coming from a gypsy!!! greek/macedonian...HaHa, read the Herodotus, Plutarch or whatever ancient writer and open ur eyes beyond ur nazi propaganda... greek nation, my ass, since when??? and who made u a country??? think nazi, think!!!
GreeceSucksHard 1 month ago
GUYS WHATEVER YOU SAY MACEDONIA IS GREEK. Alexandros and Phillipos are greek names. The star of Vergina symbolises the 12 greek gods and the 4 elements of the nature. Everything is greek.
1sxizofrenhs 8 months ago
lol 2000 yr later politics wtf u expect LMAFO just wait little greek just wait
exaqshun 9 months ago
This is a lie. According to Swiss iGENEA, Macedonians are: 30% antic macedonians, 20% teuton, 15% hellenic, 15% slav etc.
On the other hand, Greeks are: 35% hellenic, 20% phoenician, 20% slav, 10% teuton, 10% Ilyrian, 5% antic macedonians. So Greeks have only 5% of antic macedonian blood unlike Macedonians who have 30% of antic macedonian blood. This is an official swiss genetic research.
l3stat3 10 months ago
@l3stat3 the swiss LMFAO
exaqshun 9 months ago
@l3stat3 time out macedonians have a germanic crusadier tribe in its ethic pool gene and the greeks 10% less? HOW!?!?!? greeks not even full 50% hellenic and only 5 % off slav ethicity LMFAO u guys r exactly like us LMFAO mUTTS!
exaqshun 9 months ago
And something else: "Ancient Macedonians were ancient Balkan peoples, who spoke a language insufficiently known. The most prominent king of the ancient Macedonians was Philip II. Macedon, Demosthenes called him Barbarin. Although Demosthenes brought together all the Ancient Greeks to oppose Roman Macedonians, Philip II. defeated the Greeks at the Battle of Chaeronea August 2, 338th BC., followed. spared the city of Thebes. "
The lesson: Greeks learn more
toma87 10 months ago
Only the Greek and Bulgarian people learn that Macedonia belongs to them, I am Croatian and I have never learned or heard that Macedonia belongs to Greece, the Macedonians, it may request the return of all conquered territories, but no, they are seeking their own country as he was before they between the four divisions: "The Romans enslaved Macedonia 168th BC and is divided into 4 sections, which were forbidden intercommunication.
toma87 10 months ago
Do any of you ignorant Greek viewers have EARS? How many references does it take in this documentary to depict that Greece was Greece,and Macedonia was Macedonia? A country to the north. You are all brainwashed because as of 1913 all your school texts were changed. LISTEN TO HISTORY!! If Greece was Macedonia....then WHY would it wage war against itself? Quote "PHILIP'S army found their way barred, by more than 30,000 GREEKS". Same country? I think NOT.
GoranMak 11 months ago
@GoranMak Macedonia was not a country. It was a separated CITY-STATE, like sparta, corinth, athens. Your slavic asses weren't in the balkans at that time. am i wrong? ancient macedonians were speaking greek. am i wrong?
TheAgoraki 10 months ago
@TheAgoraki Yes. You are wrong.
GoranMak 9 months ago
@GoranMak explain why i am wrong.
TheAgoraki 9 months ago
@TheAgoraki You are wrong because there is other evidence my friend. Read above to toma's comments. Or 13stat3's comments.
Also, ask my GRANDFATHER, who was a police officer in MACEDONIA when Greece took the southern part of the country. Our last name was originally Macedonian, but it was CHANGED to a Greek name, as was the town he lived in. Lerin. All of a sudden it is Florina. I don't question people who were ACTUALLY there. Many have stories.
GoranMak 9 months ago
@GoranMak Also - please google maps of Macedonia in 1903. Please get an atlas from any other country than Greece. Do yourself that favour. Have a nice weekend!
GoranMak 9 months ago
@GoranMak no its tru my mother was refuged in yougoslav and my father prisoned by bulagrs in 1950s and their parents said they were macdonian
exaqshun 9 months ago
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Please Ppl have some respect for those that came before us,shame on you all,you have a great history&much to be to take pride in but all you's seem to want today is put your own heritage down with insults...................ignorance must be bliss you ingrates
darspower 11 months ago
Please Ppl have some respect for those that came before us,shame on you all,you have a great history&much to be to take pride in but all you's seem to want today is put your own heritage down with insults...................ignorance must be bliss you ingrates
darspower 11 months ago
I love Macedonian History. I'm still trying to find the book " Macedonia: From Phillip II to Roman Conquest" or something like that. Having a hard time finding it.
stingray970 1 year ago
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MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
I like greek culture, it was stolen by many people as well as territoty, history can be stolen, but still Greece is Greece!!!
TheSaba291 1 year ago
FYROM has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia!
FYROM is Bulgarian territory ....
MrNacko28 1 year ago
LOLSKI
MACEDONIA IS GREECE
the pathetic country of the fyromonkeys has nothing ancient
you know there is another documentary. on the banana national television where God talks to the monkeydonians! ohohohoho and they really believe it!!!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
MACEDONIA TO MACEDONIANS!!!
YOU GREEK STUPID PPL STILL TODAY CAN NOT FORGET WHO KICK YOU ASS IN THOUS DAYS...IT WOS FILIP FROM MACEDON THE BARBARION AS YOU CALL HIM,THIS IS NOT YOUR HISTORY,IT SAYS ABOUT MACEDONIANS ATAKING GREECE ,YOU HAVE TAKEN FROM US SOUTHEN PART OF OUT COUNTRY WHICH IS NOT YOURS !!!!!!!
BUT WE NEVER FORGET!!!!!!
WE KICK YOUR ASS ONCE AND WE WILL DO IT AGAEN
BE AWARE MACEDONIANS ARE COMING !!!!!!! RUN !!!!!
igorivanovski1977 1 year ago
@igorivanovski1977 are you idiot or something?
mrspartan32 1 year ago
@igorivanovski1977 Sais Igor the Bulgarian HAHAHAAAHAHAHAH!!!! Have u ever see a true Macedonian with the name Igor???
Jeffanos 1 year ago
@igorivanovski1977 take my dick in your mouth stupid mother fucker...fucking slav...
1976gs 1 year ago
@igorivanovski1977 TEL HIM BRAT TELL HIM TELL THE FUCKING GREEK BITCH TELL HIM
exaqshun 9 months ago
@igorivanovski1977 romans kicked greeks ass not macedons
fredsucksbutt124 9 months ago
Do you know what means Phillipos???? I know... Do you know what means the star of Vergina? I know. Do you knwo what means the name Alexandros? I know. What you know slavic monkey? So i am the real Macedonian, i come from Thessaoniki and you can come any time you want. Dont forget the power of greek army. Fucking ants.
1sxizofrenhs 8 months ago
@igorivanovski1977 Slavic barbarian, stop with your bullshit claiming that you, the slavs have anything to do with Alexander the Great or "ancient" Macedonians because you don't!!! The "ancient" Macedonians were an Indo-European people, not slavic so go back to Bulgaria you motherfucker!!! The name that you carry so called Macedonia, is a fake name! The glory of Alexandre the Great belongs to Illyrians/Albanians since his mother was from a southern Illyrian province called Epirus!!! So fuck off
RealAlbo4life 8 months ago
since when did skopian yugoslavs become macedonian?????
macedonia is greece
nmt1969 1 year ago
@IllyrianArberore lmfao. Why would you take any credibility form a dude named Wadham Peacock? Sounds like a porn director!
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
The Macedonians really were trouble for Athens Maritime Empire. The greatest Greek warriors, and any warrior at all, are definately the Macedonians.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Alexander spoke only the Greek language,he had greek education and his teacher was Aristotelis!About Chaeronea,this battle was a civil war!Fillipos won this battle and he is the first Greek who gave a peace in this area!Fillipos is his name,not Fillipofski!I'm Macedonian,but first of all i'm Greek.Not a slav!If you want to be Macedonian,you need to be Greek first!Thrace,Macedonia,Thessaly,Epirus,Aegean and Ionion sea are departments of Greece,not a countries!Stop propaganda-save history!
Realistis6432 1 year ago
@Realistis6432 The Macedonians spoke a very archaic form of the Greek language that was barely understandable to your average Greek who spoke the Attic Dialect. Your typical Macedonian spoke the Dorian dialect with some Illyrian and Thracian words thrown into the mix. Still very Greek people though, it's just that they were considered backwater. Kinda like the Epirotes were.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@Alexandros1294 Hey kid!I studied all dialects at University of Epirus(phylosophy-i'm a teacher),and i know better than you my science.All these dialects have filiation only from Greeks!Maced-onski(xaxaxa)from FyroMonkeydonia are Slavs and they speak the Bulgarian lingua!They haven't any reduction with Alexander and his legacy.It's a ridicule!But your fucking country saluted this fucking shit-slav nation with this name:Macedonia.Consequently,i believe that you have not opinion about this matter.
Realistis6432 1 year ago
@Realistis6432 Why are you blaming me for something my incompetent government did? I can have an opinion if I want to have one, God damn it. I'm on Greece's side. I never said the Macedonians were not Greek. Look at my channel, it's fucking Greek.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago 2
@Alexandros1294 My central nervous system is very sensitive with this matter.It's the biggest crime of all history and i hate those Americans politicians(Bush),because my country has many problems with this fucking shit-Slav nation!Sorry,you have justice!
Realistis6432 1 year ago
HAAHAH STUPID GAY GREECK STILL THINK THAT ALEKSANDER WAS GREECE GREKE NEVER EHIST HE WA ONLY LITLE TOWN NEAR FROM ATHENS MACEDONIA WAS EMPIRE OF MACEDONIANS NEVER HELL ASS
goranbk 1 year ago
Oliver Stone's Alexander, although a very mediocre movie, depicts Phillip's army brilliantly and as accurately as we can. Especially impressive is the understanding in the movie of the white shield unit, an elite infantry unit that was trained to keep up with the cavalry, providing a link between the phalanx and the heavy cavalry, and a support base for missile units.
lebarosky 1 year ago
@lebarosky Yes, the Hypaspist guards. The Macedonian Army was truly amazing on the field.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
@Alexandros1294 : Within 20 years after Alexandros' death they were in a bad way. His successors kept bribing them. They were notoriously hard to bribe. Eventually one of the Successors sent them to Bactria and they were given all of the toughest assignments in an effort to wipe them out.
lebarosky 1 year ago
@lebarosky The Silver Shields. Yes, I remember them. They gave Antigonus Monophtalmus quite a hard time while he was campaigning against Eumenes. Seleucus had them go to Bactria right? Or was it Antigonus that had them in small units through Bactria to get rid of them?
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
three is an inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει
I m sure it will be easy for you to translate the llanguage of your suposed ancestors lolski
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three is an inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει
I m sure it will be easy for you to translate the llanguage of your suposed ancestors lolski
hoplitespao 1 year ago
@hoplitespao Too Greek for me. What does it say? I love the Ancient Macedonians. They are the best Greeks out there.
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
you're so stupid you didn't even understand the meaning of what was said on this documentary...piece of shit.
XMAXERO 1 year ago
Macedonia Forewer !!!
MegaHeruvim 1 year ago
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WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
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2005defender 1 year ago
Macedonians are proud Greeks!!!Go die loosers
Galuadan 2 years ago
There is an inscripted stone in the entrance of the government building of Skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
" μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει "
I m sure it will be easy for you to translate the language of your suposed ancestors ha ha
"Skopje" form latin form "Skupi" itself from greek form "Skoupidia" = GARBAGE
hoplitespao 2 years ago 2
"I happen to know, and I will demonstrate in a subsequent chapter of this history, that these descendants of Perdiccas are, as they themselves claim, of Greek nationality. This was, moreover, recognized by the managers of the Olympic games, on the occasion Alexander, however, proved his Argive descent, and so was accepted as a Greek and allowed to enter for the foot-race. He came in equal first." Herodotus book 5. 22.
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2005defender 2 years ago
there are like 5-10 greek people that are writing coments in every time on every clip for macedonia and greece , 2005 defender how much are you paid for the job you having???
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
this is you usual reaction of the most of you when you cannot give a proper reply in the facst and evidence posted
I could ask the same Q to you but will be a meaningless post like yours
2005defender 2 years ago
man wherever i go you have posted a comment!!!
i watch you tube at last 5 mounths, and you have comments everywhere, how did you mennage,
i geting tired from you ,
the fact that there is at least 200 000 macedonians in province of aegian macedonia tells enough, these people has no rights to learn macedonian or give macedonian names of newborn children
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
first of all its your problem if you are tired or not, second rgere is nt any "aegean" Macedonia, third Rainbow party received 2800 votes last June, how you figure out that there are 200.000 in Greece?
and for the end answer to the facts instead of personal comments to others
2005defender 2 years ago
the nee data in britanika enciclopedia says 200 000 and these people know greek and macedonian, i have greek relatives they don`t care about nation so they are greeks thy says it is better for the prosper in the life not to be macedonian in greece, they have greek names and speak greek and macedonian but they are real macedonians not like the newcomers Magires from asia minor that come in the 20`
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
You have confused with Greek slavofones who are claiming themselfes Greeks.Noone of them supporting Rainbow , Watch to whom i;m refering to:
/watch?v=Lf2S8lXmvrk
2005defender 2 years ago
very interesting, very interesting
tell me than, how do you explain why greek goverment do not allow to these slavophone greeks to learn their own slavic language at schools and give slavik names to their newborn children??? and also i have more than 30 relatives of those "slavophone greeks" but i`m not greek i`m macedonian
do you believe that there are any slavophone greeks??? or you just blindly support grfeek nazi politics ??
wake up man, wake up be realistic and admit it least to yourself
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
Greece is not Nazi. Greece is ranked 27th in Democracy quality worlwide while your country is ranked 72nd as per Econimist.
Slavophnes are approx 200.000 but 95% of them claiimig they are G r e e k
The prove is the votes Rainbow received
simple as that what you dont understand???
2005defender 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
Greece has not any obligation to provide such rights to a group of less than 3000 ppl in a population o 3.000.000 Greek Macedonians that their target is the same as on 1949 to annex Macedonia to Fyrom
Macedonia is and will remain Hellenic
2005defender 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
Rene Guerdan (1969), French Historian
The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a Socialist Republic of Macedonia with Skopje as capital is only a sad farce
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2005defender 2 years ago
omg quite an argument
what about of the other french autor from 1950 and his book about the macedonian lexic and language from 16 century/??? it is same as macedonian today!
/watch?v=irL0IZIQgJY&feature=related
or maybe that is the language of those "slavophone greeks" ? should i remind you again that this slavic language was forbiden in greece after occupaing aegian macedonia, also i ask again why it is not allowed to learn that slavic language in schools. why why???
kojPRVpocna 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
there is not " occupaing aegean macedonia'
Macedonia was liberated from Greek Army that kicked out Turks on 1913 and Bulgars on 1915 read balkan wars on the web at any site of your choice
2005defender 2 years ago
whatever helps you sleep at nighta and forget the crualties your people did to my people. What your ancestors and you people do today to my people can be compared to what Hitler did. Thumb me down. I dont give a fuck. I am just telling the truth.
XxDacMatxX 1 year ago
@XxDacMatxX
your "truth" is your propaganada which everyone in the world will be laughing
Tell us an international indep. source refering to this and make us all laughing fyromian History stealer
2005defender 1 year ago
@kojPRVpocna
I have answered previously regarding slavic language
Greek slavophones primary language is Greek
rainbow's party 2800 votes among 3.000.000 Greek macedonians is not a reason to have slavic schools in Greece
if they dont like they can always relocate to your country
2005defender 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna
regarding the language of ancient macedonians
the fairly uniform Hellenistic Greek spoken and written from the 4th century bc until the time of the Byzantine emperor Justinian (mid-6th century ad) in Greece, Macedonia, and the parts of Africa and the Middle East that had come under the influence or control of Greeks or of Hellenized rulers. Based chiefly on the Attic dialect, the Koine had superseded the other ancient Greek dialects by the 2nd century ad.
Britannica c o m
2005defender 2 years ago
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@kojPRVpocna
DEMOCRACY RANKING AS PER ECONOMIST
22, Greece - FULL DEMOCRACY
72 Fyrom - FLAWED DEMOCRACY
81 Albania - HYBRID REGIME
88 Turkey - HYBRID REGIME economist c o m
2005defender 2 years ago
you greeks know that Greece was established as a country in the 1830 's right?
and if you want to believe that Macedonia is Macedonia and not Greek just visit Rome and see the big plaque next to the Colloseum.. it is a map of Europe showing how big the Roman empire was.. you may notice that in that region it says in big letters "MACEDONIA" /
WHERE IS GREECE?
alexohrid 2 years ago
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National Geographic maps of the Balkans states 1915 - 2006.
FYROM: HOW A LIE BECOME TRUE
ypruss 2 years ago
from what I have heard ancient macedonians were a greek tribe too, thats at least what they teach us here in the US...because alexander wanted to get revenge against the persians for burning down athens
EnforcerAnderson 2 years ago 2
Thank God im a MACEDONIAN and not greek!
puncyy 2 years ago
you are a stuge macedonia is greek, if u say ur macedonian and not greek your FYROM
Emmparty 2 years ago
Thanks Gods for HAVE BEEN BORN GREEK-Alexander the Great
EVDIMOS 2 years ago 2
Poor skopian do you know what mines Alexander or filip or the symbol of virginia poor skopian Makedonia is Greek!!!!!
basman130 2 years ago 2
Phillip didn't want to conquer the rest of Greece. He wanted to unify Greece unter his command. That's why the south city-states resisted and that's why Sparta didn't participated in Alexander's campaign. In the Council of Corinth at 337 and 336 B.C. it was signed the UNION of all greek city states under the command of Macedonia, not their obedience. Also all the words that described the macedonian army are greek: phallaga, sarisa, pezaiteroi, etairoi, peltastai, toksotai and others.
NickOfThessaloniki 2 years ago
uniting the greek city states... i think this explains everything... Poor slavs
knsmaximo 2 years ago 2
Macedonia is the land that belongs to the grand sons to the biggest imperator Alexander the Great king of Macedonia.You cant split that lang you tried in 1913 but nothing now your scared to lose your history couse in eu we can claim our old flag and our teritories.MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS
MKDarko 2 years ago
you like Greek Histpry i see
arcadian33333 2 years ago
We were poor and we still maybe poor! But! You can not take away our pride!!! The whole world has there eyes on you. You are not a world state! And you are no ALEXANDER!!!!!!! You will loose and we will win! The children of Alexander!
1963gamoV 2 years ago
This is the truth! King Filip of Macedon wanted to uniting the greek city statis by force!!!! if he was greek he wouldnt have to! By force he molded the nation that today calls themselfs Greece!!!
1963gamoV 2 years ago
Phillip wanted to unify all Greeks UNDER HIS COMMAND. That's why the rest of the Greeks resisted. They thought that he wanted to enslave them. Athens and Thebes had a repuplic government at that time while Macedonia was a kingdom. It was reasonable to resist against someone who wanted to chance their style of government (at least that's how they thought of). Also the Spartans thought that a Panhellenic campaign wasn't important without them as leaders. That's why they didn't participated.
NickOfThessaloniki 2 years ago
the glory of makedonia is not for greece,serbia,albania or bulgaria.and let the makedons lead,the world shall see !a good makedon.
makedonistoi 2 years ago
Macedonia, in old Egyptian inscriptions "Mage donia" which in Arabic became to be pronounced "Magduniye" was important centre of Mithraism in northern Africa. Yaghut Hamudi, traveller, geographer and historian in his book "Majamal baladan" says "Macedonia is the name of Egypt in the Greek language".
5S5EVER 2 years ago
Ibn Al Faghih Ahmad Hamedani 4th Arabic century geographer and historian quoting Ibn Yasar says,-" Macedonia is Egyptian territory". Al Moghadasi 5th Islamic century geographer in "Hosn Al Taghasim", Ibn Al khardazbeh in Dalmask and Almamalek", Masoudi in the book of Moruj Alzahb and many others confirm that in those days Macedonia was Egyptian territory.
5S5EVER 2 years ago
LOL With the exception of early Islamic historians and the knowledgeable, Ibn Maghta, Tabari and Dinvari have called Alexander in their writings Iranian.
5S5EVER 2 years ago
hahaha watch it and listen! go to 1:29...
Archangel7999 2 years ago
lol there tehre greeks,the truth is out! he never says anywhere he is greek
makdeonijatom 2 years ago
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"The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian" - Arrian
"Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks." Borza"
The suggestion is surely that Macedonian was the language of the infantry and that the Greek was a difficult indeed a foreign tongue to them". Badian
So, if any stubborn greek/ethiopian gayreek fanatic cant understand this, can suck my FAT MACEDONIAN COCK
UberMaKedoN 2 years ago
VOUKEFALOVSKI,PARMENIOVSKI,FILIPPOVSKI,PERSEOVIC,KLITOVSKI,ARISTOTELOVSKI and mony.athers is.SLAVOBULGARIAN FROM VARDARIA...??? ouxaxaxaouxaxaxaouxaxax!!!!
corfu75 2 years ago 2
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MASTRUBATE under ALEXANDER'S STATUE and FANTASIZE that they are MAKEDONES.
is SCOPJALANDS National pass time
zygste 2 years ago
also, as the doco clearly states... king phillip of macedon wanted to unite the greek city states! it is greece even today and macedonia is a greek city state today part of the greek democracy... why is that so hard to understand?
Archangel7999 2 years ago 16
no it dosent say that anywhee hahah there there cry you faggot
makdeonijatom 2 years ago
@Archangel7999
Ancient Macedonia was monarchy, the Greeks were looking at Macedonia like a strange and barbarian land. With the Maegali Idea from 19 century this was changed and not you says that Macedonia was Greek city state, lol.
Blad771 1 year ago
@Archangel7999 It dependes how you look at it.
The Macedoian wanted to be greek the greek saw them as little more then barbarians who didn't know the right end of a spear.
I think most people see it as the greek looking down on the macedonians when they where equals then rushing out to take all the credit when the macedonians shook the world.
Huganis 1 year ago
@Archangel7999 you are totaly fucked up...propably brainwashed slav...dont worry...u can still wake up...macedonia is GREEK and will ever be...and I am not talking for now only...macedonians were Greeks ,same Gods, same coultoure,same language...they were axepted in the olympics years before Philip unite all Greeks except Spartans.t h i n k a b o u t i t!!!
1976gs 1 year ago
@1976gs heheheheheheheehheeheeh fucking stupid mother fuckers so now filp uited u soo tell me if he was greek like you said why he even bother to unite u when he could've been fucking philosopher like the other fags in your fucking "history"
MrTrajce222 1 year ago
@MrTrajce222 you are totaly fucked up...yes we had many...philosopher,poets,scientist,and warriors...many...open a book...u fucking retard shit of slavs...we will fuck until you will be no more...wait and see who is muther fucker...yes I fucked your mother and grandmother too.your sister is fucked by my coleg from the navy...u know navy piece of shit?or maybe you ve got any destroyer to stick in your ass besite your small lake...?!!!what ?u dont ve see?sorry...it is all ours...
1976gs 1 year ago
@MrTrajce222 and if you dare come and try to take a cm of land,air or our see...if u count our coast is double time the african mother fucker slav..that is why u allways dreamed of making your way out here...sorry we ve about 20 millions of BAD OTHER FUCKER GREEKS TO FUCK U...YOU WILL DISSAPEAR FROM THE FACE OF EARTH LIKE U NEVER BEEN ON...MACEDONIA IS GREEK CUNTS FROM SLAVOSHIT PLACE...
1976gs 1 year ago
@Archangel7999 to bad i am not lol to bad the greeks will fall from my sword
exaqshun 9 months ago
@Archangel7999 to bad king kostodin thinks different spart and athens will fall the new macedonian battle standdard MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
exaqshun 9 months ago
the day i came onto ur bloggin posts is the day that ONLINE warfare CHNAGED
exaqshun 9 months ago
LEAVE MY POSTS NOW U GREEKS LEAVE
exaqshun 9 months ago
WTF U WAITING FOR KING PHILLIPO THE 2cnd to comebak!? alex is turning ove rin his grave cuz of u dumbgreeks lol
exaqshun 9 months ago
i will take this father then internet posts just wait 2012 for a reason its a change not just the end of time LOL
exaqshun 9 months ago
now thmubs down these fuck Makedoncie!
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Archangel7999 2 years ago
there was no greece back then! it was theves, athens, sparta etc etc macedonia was just another city state... this doco actually proves that alexander the great was hellenic, spoke hellenic, educated by hellenes and spread hellenic culture to the rest of the world... it's pretty simple to understand actually! hmmm a typical case of the arrogance of ignorance
Archangel7999 2 years ago
Can the poster of this video give some information as of where this documentary comes from?
Cause i saw one documentary from History Channel... Who made this one?
psonio3d 2 years ago
Alexanders letter ran thus: Your ancestors came into Macedonia and the rest of Greece and treated us ill, without any previous injury from us. I, having been appointed commander of chief of the Greeks
Alexanders letter to Darius as given to us in
Arrian, anabasi.
Taken by websfor. org/alexander/arrian/book2a. asp
chapter XIV
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago 2
As proven below MACEDONIA was being populated by GREEKS and romans. There is no mention of anything else. Is that strange or not?
Slavic thieves
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago
Caesar laying all other thoughts aside, determined to pursue Pompey, whithersoever he should retire, to prevent his drawing together fresh forces, and renewing the war. He marched every day as far as the body of cavalry he had with him could hold out, and was followed, by shorter marches, by a single legion.
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago
Pompey had issued a proclamation at Amphipolis, enjoining all the youth of the province, whether Greeks or Romans, to join him in arms. But whether this was with intent to conceal his real design of retreating much farther, or to try to maintain his ground in Macedonia, if nobody pursued him, is hard to determine
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago
Gaius Julius Caesar, Commentaries on the Civil War, 3,84
Found on perseus. tufts. edu
ANAMNEN20AR 2 years ago
just keep on dreaming ugreeks umm corfu75 u greek shit dont u have a gay parada u need to celebrate go suck ur black dads dick u shit hole
Babcemakedonce1 2 years ago
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DRINKING OF CASTOR OIL was one of the penalties the Bulgarian comitages were using for the Greek native speakers in the areas they were trying to convert into the exarchate. Greek was forbidden. Also they were burning down Greek churches and killings and tortures were common sometimes with the blessings of the ottomans. You animals thank god for the Macedonian revolution 1904. NEVER BULGARIAN EXARCHATES AND OTTOMANS IN MACEDONIA AGAIN.
ellinas133 2 years ago
Macedonia was, is and will always be the north region of Greece! Is it so difficult to understand it? All the historians and archaeologists all over the world admit that! How pathetic is it not to have a history and make stories out of your mind?
ir85fate 2 years ago 2
ancient Macedonia was was Greek state 3000 years ago thing where very different... king phillip united ancient Greece and Alexander the great spread ancient Greek culture and values to the rest of the world...1:23 listen carefully!
Archangel7999 2 years ago 14
yes , you know. but how much you don`t know?
massivedonia 2 years ago
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Redrougegirl you are a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with victims like this poor unemployed charlatan Slavjanski is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
noaudito 2 years ago
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ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ 100% Greek OK Bastards!
Alexander the Great was 100 % Greek, Spoke and wrote Greek
Macedonija what is this?
FYROM
Former Yougoslav Republic of Monkeys
Slavobulgaralbanoturks - Bastards
psolarasxxl 3 years ago
I leave the conclutions to U!!
watch?v=D1j4U79eBMo
metzelf 3 years ago
watch?v=xGP6d_eB_rQ
metzelf 3 years ago
alexadrovski,filipovski,olympiadof,parmeniovic,voukefalovski,ptolemeovic,kleopatrova,klitof,hifestinof,nearhof,aristotelof is....slavs from vardaria??? ouxaxaxouaxaxax!!!! you make my day vardarian!!!
corfu75 3 years ago 3
Vardar flows down to Salonika... turo/import.
theMac3donian 3 years ago
disney.........stop to steal the vardarians heros.Donald-dack is from skopie the capital city of vardakistan-bulgaristan and the real name is donalof-duskovski!!!
corfu75 3 years ago
i'm with you BabceMakedonce ofc we can do it again
xDJxSUMMERx 3 years ago
Macedonians were monarhs, and Greeks were democratic. So they have nothing in common. When Philip and Alexander conquered greek states after that Alexander mixed macedonian and greek culture-that was caled helenism and he spread it in Asia.
malinkastip 3 years ago
Ancient greece had cities - states like ATHINA , SPARTA , MAKEDONIA etc.All of them were GREEKS.This is the TRUE like it or not MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND GREEK.YOU CANNOT CHANGE HISTORY WITH LIES AND PROPAGANDA.MAKEDONIA FOREVER GREEK.fyro forever vardaska.
TrueMakedonian 3 years ago
Makedonia was not city.Try to learn some history and then talk
malinkastip 2 years ago
Ha ha ha !!!!
It was a GREEK city-state you fool.
Where are you from , vardaska ???
Only in vardaska learn different history than the whole planet.
And offcource MAKEDONIA is still a place in GREECE.
FOREVER GREEK AND PROUD.
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago 2
forever greeks are gay and proud
xtrixx1 2 years ago
no,it really was not a city-state,stop and go to wikipedia,you're making a fool of yourself
TheUntitled88 2 years ago
You are try to fool yourself.
Wikipedia ??? HA HA HA !!!! LOL
Go and see what the whole planet learn in schools - except vardarska - they all learn one same thing : ANCIENT MAKEDONIA = GREECE & ALEXANDER THE GREAT = GREEK KING.
Just ask a japanese or an american or a portugal to tell you.You will dissapointed.Sad for you but TRUE.
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago
And by the way dont you ever go to a musiem , for example in england , where they have some ancient makedonian parts.Under the parts it is written : GREECE - MAKEDONIA.
Its sad to learn a different history from the whole planet isnt it ??? If i were you i would feel very bad.
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago
fuck u greece we took over ur country once we can do it again
BabceMakedonce 3 years ago
i noe i agree greeks are jus fuking shit eateing gyros shit faces
xtrixx1 2 years ago
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ellinas133 2 years ago
fyromski u r mongols like our brothers the turgays!!!
HellasAchilles 3 years ago 2
1:28 "King Philip of Macedon had come to fullfil a bold dream:UNITING the Greek city states by force"
Bordaux thanks for stating again the world know truth:))and thanks for your interest in Greek history!
dimitra26ath 3 years ago 2
Encyclopedia of Canada's Peoples - Page 289 by Paul Robert (EDT) Magocsi - 1999. "The primary reason for the decline in numbers from the period before World War II is that many Canadians who previously claimed a Bulgarian identity now describe themselves as macedonians..."
"The Macedonia Slavs, of whom there are 2,000,000, are subjects of the Sultan of Turkey. They are Bulgarians and belong to the Bulgarian Church".
Peter Roberts - Immigrant races in North America - 1910 - p. 36.
myrovlitis 3 years ago 2
"Macedonia Redux", Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors
""Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity"".
myrovlitis 3 years ago
macedonia is NOT greek macedonians are NOT greeks but and the people who leave today in macedonia are NOT macedonians...
505231 3 years ago
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Long live MACEDONIA
CRY GREECE
corbevskialeksandar 3 years ago
yess greece are faggats
xtrixx1 2 years ago
you know about gays eh ????
Gruevski ???? LOL
Is he still in love with that doctor or he has a new boyfriend ???
he is a true man gay do ninja !!! LOL
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ FOREVER GREEK AND PROUD !!!
TrueMakedonian 2 years ago 2
We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
[FYROM's Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov in an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999]
myrovlitis 3 years ago
why don't you state today's Macedonian Priminister !?
korenmkd 3 years ago