people are naive just cos were told planes arnt being used doesnt mean they wont be unwrapped during an invasion of america. aus or uk. think about it.
Russians stole thrust vectoring from the US, while we deemed it mostly unnecessary in modern Air to Air combat. I'd love to see a sukhoi battle this monster.
if the raptor wasn't stealth... this would still beat it's ass up in a dogfight... looks like this jet was the reason why the Su-37 came out... xD Su-27's didn't originally have canards right?
@adats01 Originally, yes. But the Su-33 was the first Flanker to receive canards, mainly to provide STOL capabilities, being a Carrier Flanker. Later, the Su-30MK and Su-35 later also received canards, but they were more focused on balancing the heavier electronics and equipment than maneuverability (but the enhancement was present). The Su-37 was the only one purely designed to use canards for maneuverability. Later the Su-35BM removed the no longer necessary canards
in defense of the F-15, what u see here in the video is said to be as Maneuverable as the Su-27/30. its an old plane anyways, 27 years old as of 2009. Why they didnt make more of it i dont know. guess they have no need.
great plane i started out on f-15s in 77....i noticed all the pics are of the port side, i was curious if the active still carred the cannon in the same place or did they have to delet it? AS far as these CLOWNS talking about what russian aircraft can do they have drank the tea of propagand. remember the aircaft films back 30 yrs ago with the russian narator praising the russian jets? then the mig 29 eats a bird and crashes on the runway in paris :)) priceless. mig 25 couldnt pull 5 g`s
Believe what u want. Yr F-15 only brought down old fighter jets & very ill maintained better fighters, like the MiG-29. There is no case where a F-15 brought down a MiG-29 in close dog-fight. F-15 won all those fights because it had superior radars, superior targeting systems, superior avionics in general, comparing with Iraqis or Serbian fighters. They had absolete technology on their fighters. But the russians are not inferior to u in terms of avionics.
& something more: u have a lot of biurocracy & corruption in yr military. That's a fact. & that's why yr budget is so big. A lot of the money go into a lot of stuff that r not necessary for u, just serve some people interests. That is something that u should really take care. Bks those money can be used on something much more useful.A lot of the money are not used to acquire or develop new equipment. That is why u have such a big budget & really not such a great equipt military.
Nope, the 2nd largest is the Russian AF. I told u not to underestimate them. U, as a nation do tend to do that. & that can cost u greatley. The Chinese really r not very smart. All they have is russian copys. That's it! Trust me, Russia can be a serious threat if they have enough money. & there's really nothing u can do to stop them rebuilding their economy. What u really have o do is start spending yr money properly. At this budget u could have a 5 times more better equipt military! Be smart!
Your yak 33 was just a project and it never flew or was ever built, i think that solves that. Your yak-38 first flight was 1971, the harrier was 1969 two years before.The Hawker P.1127 and the Hawker Siddeley Kestrel FGA.1 were the development aircraft that led to the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first VSTOL jet fighter-bomber. Their flights were November 19, 1960 (P.1127)
What i want to know is why the hell would there not be thrust vectoring in the plane until 1991 when its first flight was in 1987 and was called f-18(HARV) high alpha research vehicle. It would also be called something different without thrust vectoring and with thrust vectoring. For example f-16 fighting falcon, none thrust vectoring, NF-16 vista with thrust vectoring. They would be called different models. I dont know where you got this info. because what you said was imposible.
The HARV program was done in 3 phases. First phase was to obtain experience with aerodynamic measurements at high angles of attack and to develop the flight research techniques needed for this measurement(Basicly to get base data for the program). No modifications were done to the airframe(no TVC added or anything), just a lot of sensors were added to help gather the data. Phase 1 lasted from April 1987 to 1989.
Phase 2 is were the TVCs were added. Phase Two flights examined the benefits of using vectored thrust to achieve greater maneuverability and control at high angles of attack while continuing the correlation of flight data with wind-tunnel and CFD data begun in Phase One. The initial portion of the Phase Two flight program was completed in January 1993. The research flights began in July 1991 using the thrust vectoring system for control. The TVC were paddles like on the X-31.
Phase Three began in March 1995 to evaluate moveable strakes on both sides of the aircraft's nose to provide yaw control at high angles of attack where conventional rudders became ineffective. These strakes, 4 feet long and 6 inches wide, were hinged on one side and mounted to the forward sides of the fuselage. The strake project concluded in September 1996 with flight 385 of the HARV program.
This is where russia got its Su-35, from the F-15Active. They stole the F-15Actives technology of canards and thrust vectoring. We should of massed produced theses planes, then Russia couldn't say that they have the most maneuverable fighter.
WRONG! The Russians were experimenting with thrust vector and canard tech before the Americans were. the SU-37 was being used as a testbed before the F-15 active was. Also, the plane here is the F-15s/MTD and not the active. 'cause it has no vector nozzles.
thrust vectoring was developed by the US. the SU37 -Russia- was tested in 1997. the f16 VISTA-US- was tested in 1988. the f18 HARV -US- was tested in 1987. as you can see, thrust vectoring was tested in US before Russia. and the plane in this video is the f15 ACTIVE...get your facts straight
Su T-50 eat your heart out
ChargedTTq 1 month ago
people are naive just cos were told planes arnt being used doesnt mean they wont be unwrapped during an invasion of america. aus or uk. think about it.
quintonhenwood 1 month ago
Fighter kite.
AKVARELAKV1 1 month ago
damn that a nice F-15 thrust vectorin AND front stabelizers DAMN
hardcorekings18 1 month ago
I didn't think this thing still flew. Didn't they put thrust vectoring on them?
poppingcherries1 1 month ago
i think this shit from NASA can even outfly F-22
IWSFODD 2 months ago
dont know why they waste the money on the f22's the f 15 was superior all they have to do is update it.wasted billions...........
elpin31 3 months ago
the f22 was canceled becasue its not all its cracked up to be .... its too expensive for its benefits....
Cessnacrewchief 4 months ago
@Cessnacrewchief you don't know jack shit boy
TH7596 3 months ago
Russians stole thrust vectoring from the US, while we deemed it mostly unnecessary in modern Air to Air combat. I'd love to see a sukhoi battle this monster.
DailyStaley 4 months ago
F-15+canards+thrust vectoring= :)
k2477456 5 months ago 2
if the raptor wasn't stealth... this would still beat it's ass up in a dogfight... looks like this jet was the reason why the Su-37 came out... xD Su-27's didn't originally have canards right?
adats01 6 months ago
@adats01 Originally, yes. But the Su-33 was the first Flanker to receive canards, mainly to provide STOL capabilities, being a Carrier Flanker. Later, the Su-30MK and Su-35 later also received canards, but they were more focused on balancing the heavier electronics and equipment than maneuverability (but the enhancement was present). The Su-37 was the only one purely designed to use canards for maneuverability. Later the Su-35BM removed the no longer necessary canards
Wyvern0110 5 months ago
They stopped funding of the f22 dummies they cancel the program so when ever the economy gets better the next president can continue production
bobbyraejohnson 8 months ago
@bobbyraejohnson , yeah congress stopped funding an aircraft the military didn't want and it has too many problems.
ex95 8 months ago
Sounds like my house at loon ski resort
1kelseysmith 10 months ago
The F-15 A.C.T.I.V.E Was what ended making the raptor we know today it was practically the start of thrust vectoring cool huh?
EDGamesForums 10 months ago
Sexy ass F-15.
thepilotguy123 2 years ago 12
in defense of the F-15, what u see here in the video is said to be as Maneuverable as the Su-27/30. its an old plane anyways, 27 years old as of 2009. Why they didnt make more of it i dont know. guess they have no need.
IFIRIEIEID 2 years ago
I guess the USA sees no wars in the future against Russia. THAT or they have something secret up there sleeves.
IFIRIEIEID 2 years ago
this plane is soo sexy.... i love the tripple wing design
TheGatman101 2 years ago
the F-22 replaced the F-15 in 2004
kentol2000 2 years ago
The F-15 ACTIVE aircraft is one of my favorites. in my opinion, if they did a fighter, may compete strongly against the F-22 Raptor
Rankakiu 2 years ago
great plane i started out on f-15s in 77....i noticed all the pics are of the port side, i was curious if the active still carred the cannon in the same place or did they have to delet it? AS far as these CLOWNS talking about what russian aircraft can do they have drank the tea of propagand. remember the aircaft films back 30 yrs ago with the russian narator praising the russian jets? then the mig 29 eats a bird and crashes on the runway in paris :)) priceless. mig 25 couldnt pull 5 g`s
azraelspectre 2 years ago
I agree but if they are going to end F-22 production why not make f-35s better with the addition of thrust vectoring and Mach 2 speed.
turkflyguy 2 years ago
If they do that they will lose the vertical take off and landing capability which is a major point to the aircraft.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
@disturbedone5009
This airplane is not capable of vertical take off or landings.
bigbadbojenkins 5 months ago
Thats true. I read where the export version of the F22 will be a far less effective fighter if it happens.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
104 kills to no losses. You would think 1 person may have gotten lucky but they didn't.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Believe what u want. Yr F-15 only brought down old fighter jets & very ill maintained better fighters, like the MiG-29. There is no case where a F-15 brought down a MiG-29 in close dog-fight. F-15 won all those fights because it had superior radars, superior targeting systems, superior avionics in general, comparing with Iraqis or Serbian fighters. They had absolete technology on their fighters. But the russians are not inferior to u in terms of avionics.
StiviGun 2 years ago
And the F22 will have superior avionics once again.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
dude u r so stupid russian planes have cheap mechanism they fail in aviation and techonlgy american planes are the way to go
fernest003 2 years ago
& something more: u have a lot of biurocracy & corruption in yr military. That's a fact. & that's why yr budget is so big. A lot of the money go into a lot of stuff that r not necessary for u, just serve some people interests. That is something that u should really take care. Bks those money can be used on something much more useful.A lot of the money are not used to acquire or develop new equipment. That is why u have such a big budget & really not such a great equipt military.
StiviGun 2 years ago
...I will not argue with that...But I think that the 2nd largest is either China or the RAF, not sure though
tommytmt 2 years ago
Nope, the 2nd largest is the Russian AF. I told u not to underestimate them. U, as a nation do tend to do that. & that can cost u greatley. The Chinese really r not very smart. All they have is russian copys. That's it! Trust me, Russia can be a serious threat if they have enough money. & there's really nothing u can do to stop them rebuilding their economy. What u really have o do is start spending yr money properly. At this budget u could have a 5 times more better equipt military! Be smart!
StiviGun 2 years ago
Send that memo to our retarded politicians...
tommytmt 2 years ago
You're wrong about the harrier part, the yak 33 and YAK - 38 freehand were the first to use thrust vectoring =P
Eddy3443 2 years ago
Your yak 33 was just a project and it never flew or was ever built, i think that solves that. Your yak-38 first flight was 1971, the harrier was 1969 two years before.The Hawker P.1127 and the Hawker Siddeley Kestrel FGA.1 were the development aircraft that led to the Hawker Siddeley Harrier, the first VSTOL jet fighter-bomber. Their flights were November 19, 1960 (P.1127)
March 7,1964 (Kestrel). =P SO FUCK YOU FAGET.
tonygogap 2 years ago
What i want to know is why the hell would there not be thrust vectoring in the plane until 1991 when its first flight was in 1987 and was called f-18(HARV) high alpha research vehicle. It would also be called something different without thrust vectoring and with thrust vectoring. For example f-16 fighting falcon, none thrust vectoring, NF-16 vista with thrust vectoring. They would be called different models. I dont know where you got this info. because what you said was imposible.
tonygogap 2 years ago
The HARV program was done in 3 phases. First phase was to obtain experience with aerodynamic measurements at high angles of attack and to develop the flight research techniques needed for this measurement(Basicly to get base data for the program). No modifications were done to the airframe(no TVC added or anything), just a lot of sensors were added to help gather the data. Phase 1 lasted from April 1987 to 1989.
DemonLordRazgriz 2 years ago
Phase 2 is were the TVCs were added. Phase Two flights examined the benefits of using vectored thrust to achieve greater maneuverability and control at high angles of attack while continuing the correlation of flight data with wind-tunnel and CFD data begun in Phase One. The initial portion of the Phase Two flight program was completed in January 1993. The research flights began in July 1991 using the thrust vectoring system for control. The TVC were paddles like on the X-31.
DemonLordRazgriz 2 years ago
Phase Three began in March 1995 to evaluate moveable strakes on both sides of the aircraft's nose to provide yaw control at high angles of attack where conventional rudders became ineffective. These strakes, 4 feet long and 6 inches wide, were hinged on one side and mounted to the forward sides of the fuselage. The strake project concluded in September 1996 with flight 385 of the HARV program.
DemonLordRazgriz 2 years ago
I'll send you the link to the NASA file on this.
DemonLordRazgriz 2 years ago
Cool
ZiJoniZ 3 years ago
This is where russia got its Su-35, from the F-15Active. They stole the F-15Actives technology of canards and thrust vectoring. We should of massed produced theses planes, then Russia couldn't say that they have the most maneuverable fighter.
POPJack1717 3 years ago
you do realize that thrust vectoring is an idea that predates ww2?
jdan007 3 years ago
how is that possible ....there were no jet engines before ww2 were the heck have you been?
monimstarfox 3 years ago
lol dude the 1st thrust vectoring was made in 1991 the f 16
1996YearTupacDied 2 years ago
no moron even the me163 komet implemented tvc, ballistic missles have also used it for years, not to mention the harrier used tvc as well.
jdan007 2 years ago
WRONG! The Russians were experimenting with thrust vector and canard tech before the Americans were. the SU-37 was being used as a testbed before the F-15 active was. Also, the plane here is the F-15s/MTD and not the active. 'cause it has no vector nozzles.
proy3 2 years ago
thrust vectoring was developed by the US. the SU37 -Russia- was tested in 1997. the f16 VISTA-US- was tested in 1988. the f18 HARV -US- was tested in 1987. as you can see, thrust vectoring was tested in US before Russia. and the plane in this video is the f15 ACTIVE...get your facts straight
usmcandrew16 2 years ago
WRONG YOU ARE these are not the two demensional nozzels but the newer nozzels that have all axis of travel
alliemac52 2 years ago
this does not look half as maneuverable as the su 30 . . let alone su 37 or 47
srsairbags 2 years ago
lol we dont need the most maunverabale fighter we still own them
1996YearTupacDied 2 years ago
i wonder if they'll be at this years airshow?
CA1CWilliams 3 years ago
where did you get the chance to se the f-15s/mtd
tonygogap 3 years ago
Please read the video description...Thanks for watching.
megashegem 3 years ago
@megashegem lol idk how he missed that part :D
POPJack1717 1 month ago