why can't any refutation to the zeitgeist movies be made against their claims on the intelligence content given to leaders and the purposes
Why don't religious people understand 666 was aramaic numerology for Emporer Nero, and all apocalyptic literature was using metaphors for current issues?
if you have some time and are have an open enough mind, check out
Religion is the Opium of the people and allows governments to control the masses. As you can see from this video, it's using fear to keep everyone in place. The Zeitgeist movie provides facts, allows thoughtful consideration and offers hope.
of all the parts of zeitgeist why do people always get stuck on the religious part? It was almost insignificant compared to the rest. There is far more observable empirical evidence against Christianity and god in our every day lives using reasoning... Zeitgeist was another nail out of thousands into the coffin of god and religion.
@DieOrBlink I clicked this expecting to seem an actual discussion of the movie. Not them talk extensively on what took up maybe a few minutes of the video and the video dismissed Religion as relatively unimportant, except in the believer's dogma could be a problem with having positive change.
Time for change is here, get of your ego and do something anything to make a difference towards improving some strangers life no matter how small and or insignificant it may seem it's the collective effort that makes a difference, and things change with action!
Peter Joseph paints the picture clearly. And I say picture because we have become very visually inclined since the invention of television.
Holy shit. This is NO different than Zeitgeist, just in the OPPOSITE direction. There's nothing here that empirically proves Zeitgeist wrong and relies on the same logically fallacies for its arguments. Helpful hint: logical fallacies are inherently false. Both you and Peter Joseph deserve to be taken out into the woods and put to death for your crimes against knowledge and wisdom.
As soon as I heard "unbelievers" and bible extracts as primary scientific sources I dismissed this as baseless religious rhetoric. Petitio principii is outmoded, outdated and boring.
Perfectly pathetic, and your bible can't help you with your delusional disorder. It only makes it worse. A psychiatrist can prescribe medicine and offer a treatment plan. It's your only hope.
Yea ive been an anti-christ since I able to THINK. I laughed so much when he said "unbiased" LOL. Since when has a chirstian ever been unbiased about ANYTHING other than christianity? What a completely idiotic thing to put in any religious video, if you weren't so damn biased YOURSELF you'd understand what zeitgeist is trying to get people focused on, and that is the well being of our planet and everything that lives on it
I don't hate Christianity, I don't hate theology, but I just watched zeitgeist and I wanted a counter perspective, but this is sort of retarded. If you are going to refute something, you have to actually refute it, you can't just make one big video fallacy that asserts nothing. The whole Jesus as the sun thing is questionable, but stuff like this makes me believe it.
The egyptians deified the sun as a trinity of gods: Osiris, the Father, Horus, the Son, and Ra, the Highest Sun; each corresponding to a at least one of the sun's 3 key positions throughout the day. Osiris represented the setting sun and is reborn as horus the rising sun. Ra, who alone represented the mid-day sun completes the trinity as Ra-Horakty (translates to 'Ra who is Horus of the Two Horizons') the conflation of all three deities and positions of the sun
"She sought advice from Serqet, as the authority on scorpions, and then appealed to gods, and Ra in particular, with these words: Horus has been stung. O Ra; your son Horus has been stung ***WHO IS WITHOUT SIN***"
The Book of the Dead: The Book of Going Forth by Day translated by RO Faulkner Carol Andrews James Wasserman Page 103 "I am Horus who is in hearts...I HAVE COMMITED NO SINS against the gods and nothing shall be deducted from my vindication"
Jesus refers to himself as the "Morning Star" in Revelation 22:16: I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright ****MORNING STAR****
Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts by R.O Faulkner: "O MORNING STAR, Horus of the Dlet, divine falcon, widwid-bird whom the sky bore..."
Egyptian Book of the Dead Chapter 109 "I know the souls of the easterns, they are Horakty (Horus of the horizons), the sun calf, and the ****MORNING STAR****
Utterance 667 1941b. "Oh Horus (N) this hour of the morning of this ****Third Day**** is come, when thou surely passet on to heaven, together with the stars, imperishable stars"
Utterance 556
1382f "This hour of the ****Third Day**** has come, where the father Osiris will be reborn as Horus, at the place where the gods are born.."
According to the Ikhernofret Stela (2000 BC) Osiris' Death and Resurrection was celebrated in a 5 day festival known as the "Passion Plays". He is entombed on the 2nd day and remains so until the 4th day (****3 DAYS****) Afterwards, on the last day of the festival he is reborn AT DAWN. This is why Horus represented the sun's rising position,whereas Osiris represented the sun's setting position; Horus is symbolic of Osiris' resurrection or rebirth at dawn.
Second Story of Khamuas Con't: PAGE 50 " Now when the boy Si-Osiris (son of Osiris) had attained ****12 years**** it came to pass that there was no good scribe or learned man that rivalled him in reading and writing that compels."
His coming was prophecised in a dream: Page 43 "Setme laid him down one night and dreamed a dream, they speaking with him saying "Meh-wesekht thy wife hath concieved seed in the night. The child that shall be born, he shall be called Si-Osiris. Many the marvels he shall do in the land of Egypt"
12 anubis headed gods say unto Ra/Horus: -- "Immerse thyself, O Ra, in the holy lake wherein the lord of the gods immersed himself, whereunto the souls of the dead approach not; this is what thou thyself has commanded. O KHUTI... Thier food consisteth of ****BREAD**** their vessels are filled with *****WINE****** ".
In Chapter 5 of the Book of Gates, Horus has a separate group of 12 in his service, to whom he tells "Live delicately on the BREAD of HU, and drink ye the Ale of Maat." This ale is later referred to as the "Tchersert Drink" which translates to "Divine Drink". This concept is reworked in the NT when jesus offers 12 of his followers his body in the form of BREAD and his divine blood in the form of WINE during the Eucharist.
The Book of Gates Chapter 3 states that these 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who spread Truth upon Earth on his behalf, also exorcised the serpent demons: "They who uttered words of power against the serpent Apep... and have vanquished the serpent in my name". In Matthew 10:1 jesus' 12 followers are commissioned to exorcise demonic spirits in his name.
Note: Ra was a solar deity representing the sun's mid-day position while Horus represented the sun's rising position. By the time of the Book of Gates, Ra had already merged with Horus to represent both positions.
The Book of Gates states: "The 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who are at peace...They who praised Ra/Horus upon Earth... They who spread Truth upon Earth on Ra/Horus' behalf"
"I am the first and the last, I am the venerated and the despised one. I am the prostitute and the saint. I am the bride and the ****VIRGIN****. I am the mother and the daughter. I am my mother's arms. I am the married woman and the unmarried one. I am She who gives birth and She who has never given birth. I am the consolation for the pains of childbirth. I am my fathers' Mother. I am my husband's sister. AND HE IS MY REJECTED SON."
Isis Temple at Sais: "The present and future and past, I am. ****UNDERGARMENT NON ONE HAS UNCOVERED****. The fruit that I brought forth is the sun came into being, Horus."
Inscription at the Abydos Temple of Seti I: Isis declares: 'I am the Great Virgin (hwn.t)"
"Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible": "In Egypt the epiteths dd.t, rnn.t and HWN.T, girl; young woman; VIRGIN, are applied to many goddesses e.g Hathor and ***ISIS WHO HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE***"
-- Karel van der Toorn PhD, Bob Becking PhD, Pieter w. van der Horst PhD, Erik Horunung PhD, hans Dieter Betz PhD, Andre Caquot PhD, Jonas C Green field PhD
Among the Glyphs of Denderah is the depiction of the *non-physical* intercourse between Isis and Osiris. The glyphs show Isis sending out her Bah (spiritual vessel), Sothis (a hawk), the hawk being inseminated on Osiris' golden phallus while Isis' physical body stands aside, and then the hawk returning back to Isis with semen. Because the intercours between Isis and Osiris was *non-physical* in this manner, her virginity wasn't compromised.
"Lady of GREEN CROPS, Lady of BREAD, Lady of ABUNDANCE" -- Book of the Dead
"It is Isis (Sirius) the beloved daughter, who provides the YEARLY SUSTENANCE (flooding the Nile for crops) for you in her name of "Year" -- Pyramid Texts
"Isis (Sirius) is the opener of the Year's flood yielding crops"
All of the above depictions of Isis refer to Harvest which is why the Greeks designated their constellation of Harvest a VIRGIN GODDESS.
1. It is a well documented fact that the greek religion is a mirror of the egyptian religion e.g Dionysis is actually Osiris, Typhon is actually set, Hermes is actually Thoth, etc. With that said, Virgo's glyph is a **VIRGIN** holding WHEAT (Bread) and CORN (Spica) as Virgo is the constellation of Harvest, and this is how the egyptians depicted Isis:
"Lady of Green Crops, Lady of Bread, Lady of Abundance.." -- Egyptian Book of the Dead
In numerous biblical verses, jesus is said to have died on a tree while tradition holds that it happened on a cross. Esoterically, this tree and cross discrepancy is meant to symbolize the Djed Tree and Ankh Cross from Horus and Attis' mythologies.
In the Book of the Dead Ani Papyrus translated by Raymond Faulkner an illustration of Horus shows him spectacled in cruciform (arms outstretched) on the ANKH CROSS and DJED PILLAR / TREE TRUNK (containing Osiris' dead body). The twins, Isis-Meri(mother) and Nephtys-Meri (her sister) are at the feet of the figure, just s the two sister Mary's (+Magdaline) in John 19;15. The Ankh Cross is the key to Eternal Life that Horus achieves for his follows through death.
"The god of our father raised up, who ye slew and hanged up on a ***TREE***."
"And we are witnesses of the things which jesus did both in the land of the jews, and in jerusalem; who ye slew and hanged on a ***TREE*** " (Acts 10:39)
"And they had fulfilled all that was written on him, they took jesus down from the ***TREE*** and laid him in a sepulchre." (Acts 13:29)
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of law, being made a curse for us: it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a TREE" (Gal 3:13)
"Jesus bore our sins in his own body on a TREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness; by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:23)
"Pines high-girdled, in a leafy crest, the favorite of Gods' Great Mother, since in this TREE Attis Cybelious doffed his human shape and stiffened in it's TRUNK (DJED PILLAR)" -- Ovid Metamorphoses 10. 103 (43 BC -- 17 AD)
This is why during the Hilaria festival (3 day death) an effigy of Attis was hung on a PINE TREE and wheeled through the city of Rome. During the ceremony a BULL or RAM representing Osiris was sacrificed at the base of the tree.
"Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna found a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth... Having the form of the deers face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
"Child of Lugal Banda's wife and the some great force. Gilgamesh is the finest child of Ninsun; who NEVER LET A MAN TOUCH HER, indeed so pure and heavenly, so without sin."
Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 2:
"Gilgamesh awoke with fear in his heart. Gilgamesh cried out and arose. Gilgameh went to his mother ***VIRGIN*** Cow Lady, Ninsun."
"Surya, the SUN, then said: O Beautiful Kunti! If you satisfy me YOUR VIRGINITY WILL REMAIN; nobody will come to know and there will be born a son to you exactly like me."
[Devi Bhagavatam, The Second Book, Chapter 6, On the Birth of Pandavas, Lines 13 - 35]
"Aruru thought of Anu. Then she wet her creative fingers, FASHIONED A ROCK, tossed it as far as she could into the woods. Thus she FATHERED Enkidu."
[Epic of Gilgamesh]
Mithra is called "Theos ek Petras" or "God from the Rock" because he is another version of Enkidu who was "born from the rock" created by the mother goddess, Aruru. The mithraic equivalent of Aruru is the mother goddess, the Virgin Anahita.
Probert's Encyclopedia: "In sumerian mythology, Nana was a VIRGIN MOTHER goddess of the spirit of vegetation and infertility, a beloved consort of kings."
A mythical fragment in a hymn cycle to Inana reads:
10-22 "My lady, on your aquiring the stature of Heaven, ***virgin*** Inana."
22-24 "I shall praise the lady of battle, the great child of Suen, ***virgin*** Inana."
"Zeus let his seed fall upon the ground, which in the course of time sent up a demon with two sexual organs, male and female. They called the demon agdistis. But the gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ. There grew up from it an almond-tree and with it's fruit ripe, and a daughter of the river Sangarious (Nana) took the fruit and laid it between her breast. When it at once disappeared she was pregnant with Attis"
Hilaria was an Ancient Roman solstice festival honouring Attis. It began on Easter and lasted for 7 days. On the first day of the festival attis' death is mourned and commemorated. ***3 DAYS LATER*** his resurrection is celebrated
"Dionysis was dismembered by the Titans, and Zeus gave his heart torn to bits to Semele in a drink. When she was made pregnant by this, Juno changing herself to look like Semele's nurse, said to her: Daughter ask Zeus to come to you as he comes to Juno so you may know what pleasure it is to sleep with a god (SHE NEVER KNEW SEX) At her suggestion Semele made this request and was stricken with a thunderbolt"
Brumalia was a roman solstice festival honouring Dionysis, generally held on December 25th. The festivals included drinking and merriment. The name was derived from the latin word "bruma", which means "shortest day". In the roman festivals, the Brumalia was a feast of Bacchus, celebrated during the space of 30 days, commencing on November 24th.
From "The Gospels of Buddha" chapter titled "Walking on Water"
"This stream shall not prevent me. I shall go and see the Blessed One, AND HE STEPPED UPON THE WATER WHICH WAS FIRM UNDER HIS FEET LIKE A SLAB OF GRANITE"
Another buddhist scripture featuring "water walking"..
"HE WALKS ON WATER without dividing it, as if on solid ground"
In the Buddha Karita of Asvaghosa translated by E. B Cowell, F Max Muller and J. Takakusu Book 1 Verse 25: "At the time the ***Constellation Pushya*** was auspicious, and from the side of the queen who was purified by her vow her son was born for the welfare of the world" (Book 1 Verse 25)
The Constellation Pushya was given the title TISHYA, and in various traditions, Sirius, the Star in the East, shares the same title.
3. (English translation of the Buddha-karita of Asvaghosa by E.B Cowell, F. Max Muller and J. Takakusu, Book 1 Verse 19-20) "Then falling from the host of being in the Tushita heaven..the most excellent of bodhisatvas suddenly ***entered a thought within her WOMB.*** "
4. (The Gospels of Buddha Chapter 4) "As the Queen of Heaven she lived on Earth UNTAINTED BY DESIRE AND IMMACULATE."
As a matter of fact, the hindus even have an astrotheology for this alignment. According to the Rig Veda (1700 BC), Rohini's father, Prajapati (Orion), had an incestuous affair with her. When the order was given to execute him for this, Sirius (the archer) shoots him an arrow. The three stars on Orion's Belt represent the arrow with which he was shot.
Krishna's birth was signaled by the Star in the East. In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 3 "The Birth of Krishna" the first line reads: "Then there was a supreme hour all-auspicious and most suitable with the ROHINI CONSTELLATION rising and all the stars in a FAVORABLE POSITION."
According to the Srimad Bhagavatam, Vishnu chose Devaki and Vasudeva because they lived the most non-sensual, austere lives. It states that they endured aeons of "TAPASYA" OR "MORTIFICATION" (no sex or material indulgences -- extreme self-discipline). Furthermore, they could not give birth to Krishna in their PAST LIVES due to having sex just once (gramya-dharma or gramya-bhogan). Instead they gave birth to Pris'nigarbha, an incomplete Krishna.
In the VISHNU PURANA BOOK V CHAPTER 2 the first verse states quote:
"The nurse of the universe, Jaggadhatri, thus enjoined by the god of gods, CONVEYED SIX SEVERAL EMBRYOS into the womb of Devaki, and the seventh one, after a season into Rohini's womb."
None of Devaki's children were conceived through sex
The verse below states that Krishna was conceived through mental transmission rather than sex:
"Thereafter accompanied by plenary expansions the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna was TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. Devaki having thus been initiated by Vasudeva became beautiful by carrying Lord Krishna within the core of her heart and womb."
The egyptians deified the sun as a trinity of gods -- Osiris, the Father, Horus, the Son, and Ra, the Highest Sun -- each corresponding to at least one of the sun's 3 key positions throughout the day. Osiris represented the *setting* sun and is reborn as horus the *rising* sun. Ra, who alone represented the *mid-day* sun completes the trinity as Ra-Horakty (translates to "Ra who is Horus of the Two Horizons") the conflation of all three gods and positions of the sun.
Metternich Stele 400BC "She sought advice from Serqet, as the authority on scorpions, and then appealed to gods, and Ra in particular, with these words: Horus has been stung. O Ra; your son Horus has been stung WHO IS WITHOUT SIN"
The Book of the Dead: The Book of Going Forth by Day By RO Faulkner, Carol Andrews, James Wasserman Page 103 29A " I m Horus who is in hearts....I have commited no sins against the gods and nothing shall be deducted from my vindication.
1941b. "this hour of the morning of this ****THIRD DAY*** is come, when thou surely passet on to heavean, together with the stars, imperishable stars"
Utterance 556
1382f. "this hour of the ****THIRD DAY*** comes, where the father Osiris will be reborn as Horus, at the place where the gods are born..."
According to the Ikhernofret Stela (2000 BC) Osiris' Death and Resurrection was celebrated in a 5 day festival known as the "Passion Plays". He is entombed on the 2nd day, and remains so until the 4th day (***3 DAYS***). Afterwards, on the 5th day he is reborn AT DAWN. This is why Horus represented the sun's *rising* position, whereas Osiris represented the sun's *setting* position; Horus is symbolic of Osiris' resurrection/rebirth
Second Story of Khamuas Con't: PAGE 50 "Now when the boy Si-Osiris (son of Osiris) had attained ---******12 YEARS***** it came to pass that there was no good scribe or learned man that rivalled him in reading and writing that compels."
His coming was prophecised in a dream: Page 43 "Setme laid him down one night and dreamed a dream, they speaking with him saying "Meh-wesekht thy wife hath concieved seed in the night. The child that shall be born, he shall be called Si-Osiris. Many are the marvels he shall do in the land of Egypt."
12 anubis headed gods say unto Ra/Horus: -- "Immerse thyself, O Ra, in the holy lake wherein the lord of the gods immersed himself, whereuto the souls of the dead approach not; this is why thou thyself has commanded. O KHUTI... Their food consisteth of *****BREAD***** their vessels are filled with ****WINE****
In Chapter 5 of the Book of Gates, Horus is said to have a separate group of 12 in his service, to whom he tells "Live delicatley on the BREAD of HU, and drink ye the Ale of Maat". This ale is later referred to as the "Tchersert Drink" which translates to "Divine Drink". This concept is reworked in the NT when jesus offers 12 of his followers his body in the form of BREAD and his divine blood in the form of WINE during the Eucharist.
The Book of Gates Chapter 3 states that these 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who spread Truth upon Earth on his behalf, also exorcised demonic spirits: "They who uttered words of power against the SERPENT...and have vanquished the SERPENT in my name"
jesus' 12 followers who were commissioned to spread the word of christ were also instructed to exorcise demonic spirits in the name of christ
Note: Ra was a solar deity representing the sun's *mid-day* position while Horus represented the sun's *rising* position. By the time of the Book of Gates, Ra had already merged with Horus to represent both positions.
The Book of Gates states: "The 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who are at peace...They who praised Ra/Horus upon Earth...They who spread Truth upon Earth on Ra/Horus' behalf"
Nag Hammadi (400BC): "Im am the first and the last, I am the venerated and the despised one I am the prostitute and the saint. I am the bride and the *****VIRGIN*****. I am the mother and the daughter. I am my mother's arms, I am the married woman and the unmarried one. I and She who gives birth and She who has never given birth. I am the consolation for the pains of childbirth. I am my father's Mother, I am my husband's sister. AND HE IS MY REJECTED SON."
Isis Temple at Sais: "The present and future and past, I am. ***MY UNDERGARMENT NO ONE HAS UNCOVERED***. The fruit that I brought forth is the sun (horus) came into being."
Inscription at the Abydos Temple of Seti I: Isis declares: "I am the Great VIRGIN (hwn.t)"
"Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible": "In Egypt the epiteths dd.t, rnn.t and HWN.T, 'girl; young woman; VIRGIN, are applied to many goddesses e.g Hathor and -- ISIS WHO HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE"
Karel van der Toorn PhD, Bob Becking PhD, Pieter w. van der Horst PhD, Erik Horunung PhD, Hans Dieter Betz PhD, Andre Caquot PhD, Jonas C Greenfield PhD
Among the Glyphs of Denderah is the depiction of the *non-physical* intercourse between Isis and Osiris. The glyphs show Isis sending out her Bah (spiritual vessel), Sothis (a hawk), the hawk being inseminated on Osiris' golden phallus while Isis' physical body stands aside, and then the hawk returning back to Isis with semen. Because the intercourse between Isis and Osiris was *non-physical*, her virginity wasn't compromised.
"Lady of Green Crops, Lady of Bread, Lady of Abundance" -- Book of the Dead
"It is Sirius (Isis) the beloved daughter, who provides the YEARLY SUSTENANCE (flooding of the Nile for crops) for you in her name of "Year" -- Pyramid Texts
"Sirius (Isis) is the opener of the Year's flood yeilding crops"
All of the above depictions of Isis refer to Harvest which is why the Greeks designated their constellation of Harvest a VIRGIN GODDESS
1. It is a well documented fact that the greek religion is but a mirror of the egyptian religion e.g Dionysis is actually Osiris, Typhon is actually Set, Hermes is actually Thoth, etc. With that said, the glyph for Virgo is a Virgin holding WHEAT (Bread) and CORN (Spica) as Virgo is the constellation of HARVEST, and this is how the Egyptians depicted Isis:
"Lady of GREEN CROPS, Lady of BREAD, Lady of Abundance..." -- Book of the Dead
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a TREE" (Gal 3:13)
"Jesus bore our sins in his own body on the TREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:24)
In numerous bibical verses, jesus is said to have died on a tree while tradition holds that it happened on a cross. Esoterically, this tree/cross discrepancy is meant to symbolize the Djed Tree and Ankh Cross from Horus and Attis' mythology.
The Egyptian Book of the Dead (Ani Papyrus, RO Faulkner, pl.1) shows Horus spectacled in cruciform (arms outstretched) on the ANKH CROSS and DJED PILLAR / TREE TRUNK (containing his dead body...osiris' body). The twins, Isis-Meri and Nephtys-Meri are at the feet of the figure, just as the two sister Marys (+ Magdaline) in jonh 19:15. The Ankh Cross is the key to Eternal Life that Horus/Osiris achieves for his follower through death.
"Pines high-girdled, in a leafy crest, the favorite of God's Great Mother,since in this TREE Attis Cybelious doffed his human shape and stiffened in it's TRUNK (DJED PILLAR + ANKH CROSS) " -- Ovid Metamorphoses 10. 103 (43 BC -- 17 AD)
This is why during the Hilaria festival (3 day death) and effiy of Attis was hung on a PINE TREE and wheeled through the city of Rome. During the ceremony a BULL OR RAM representing Osiris was sacrificed at the base of of the tree
"Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna finding a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth...Having the form of a deers face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
"Child of Lugal Banda's wife and some great force. Gilgamesh is the finest child of ninsun; who NEVER LET A MAN TOUCH HER, indeed so pure and heavenly, so without sin."
[Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 1]
"Gilgamesh awoke with fear in his heart. Gilgamesh cried out and arose. Gilgamesh went to his mother VIRGIN Lady, Ninsun."
"Surya, the SUN, then said: O Beautiful Kunti! IF YOU SATISFY ME YOUR VIRGINITY WILL REMAIN; nobody will come to know and THERE WILL BE BORN A SON TO YOU exactly like me."
(Devi Bhagavatam, The Second Book, Chapter 6, On the Birth of Pandavas, Lines 13-35]
"Aruru thought of Anu. Then she wet her creative fingers, FASHIONED A ROCK, tossed it as far as she could into the woods. Thus she FATHERED Enkidu."
[Epic of Gilgamesh 2150-2000BC]
Mithra is called "Theos ek Petras' or "God from the Rock' because he is another version of Enkidu who was born from the rock created by the mother goddess, Aruru. The mithraic equivalent of Aruru is the Virgin Anahita / mother goddess.
Attis' Mother, Nana, is a pagan incarnation of sumerian VIRGIN GODDESSES, NANA AND INANA.
PROBERTS ENCYCLOPEDIA: "In Sumerian mythology, Nana was a VIRGIN MOTHER goddess of the spirit of vegetation and infertility, a beloved consort of kings."
A mythical fragment in a hymn cycle to Inana reads:
10-22 "My lady, on your aquiring the stature of Heaven, VIRGIN Inana."
22-24 "I shall praise the lady of battle, the great child of Suen, VIRGIN Inana."
"Zeus let fall in his sleep seed upon the ground, which in the course of time sent up a demon, with two sexual organs, male and female. They called the demon agdistis. But the gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ. There grew up from it an almond-tree with it's fruit ripe, and a daughter of the river Sangarious (NANA) took the fruit and laid it in her bosom. When it at once disappeared she was with a child (Attis)"
Hilaria was an Ancient Roman solstice festival honouring Attis. It began on EASTER and laster for 7 days. On the first day of the festival attis' death is mourned and commemorated. 3 DAYS LATER his resurrection is celebrated.
"Dionysis was dismembered by the Titans, and Zeus gave his heart torn to bits to Semele in a drink. When she was made pregnant by this, Juno, changing herself to look like Semele's nurse, said to her: Daughter, ask Zeus to come to you as he comes to Juno, so you may know what pleasure it is to sleep with a god (NEVER KNEW SEX) At her suggestion Semele made this request and was stricken with a thunderbolt"
Brumalia was an ancient roman solstice festival honouring Dionysis, generally held on December 25th. The festivals included drinking and merriment. The name was derived from the latin word "bruma", which means "shortest day". In the roman festivals, the Brumalia was a feast of Bacchus, celebrated during tthe space of 30 days, commencing on November 24th.
From "The Gospels of Buddha" chapter titled "Walking on Water"
"This stream shall not prevent me. I shall go and see the Blessed One, AND HE STEPPED UPON THE WATER WHICH WAS FIRM UNDER HIS FEET LIKE A SLAB OF GRANITE"
Here's another buddhist scripture featuring "water walking"
"HE WALKS ON WATER without dividing it, as if on solid ground"
In the Buddha Karita of Asvaghosa translated by E.B Cowell, F Max Muller and J. Takakusu Book 1 Verse 25 it states: "At the time the CONSTELLATION PUSHYA was auspicious, and from the side of the queen who was purified by her vow her son was born for the welfare of the world" (Book 1 Verse 25)
The Constellation Pushya was given the title TISHYA, and in various traditions, Sirius, the Star in the East, shares the same title.
3. (English translation of the Buddha-karita of Asvaghosa by E.B Cowell, F. Max Muller and J. Takakusu, Book 1 Verse 19-20) "Then falling from the host of being in the Tushita heaven...the most excellent of bodhisatvas suddenly ENTERED A THOUGHT WITHIN HER WOMB."
4. (The Gospels of Buddha Chapter 4) "As the Queen of Heaven she lived on Earth UNTAINTED BY DESIRE AND IMMACULATE."
As a matter of fact, the hindus even have an astrotheology for this alignment. According to the Rig Veda (1700 BC), Rohini's father, Prajapati (Orion), had an incestuous affair with her. When the order was given to execute him for this, Sirius (the Archer) shoots him with an arrow. The three stars on Orion's Belt represent the arrow with which he was shot.
Krishna's birth was signaled by the Star in the East. In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 3 "The Birth of Krishna" the very first line reads: "Then there was a supreme hour all-auspicious and most suitable with the ROHINI CONSTELLATION rising and all the stars in a FAVORABLE POSITION."
According to the Srimad Bhagavatam, Vishnu chose Devaki and Vasudeva because they lived the most non-sensual, austere lives. It states that they endured aeons of "TAPASYA" or "MORTIFICATION" (no sex or material indulgences -- extreme self-discipline). Furthermore, they could not give birth to Krishna in their PAST LIVES due to having sex just once (gramya-dharma or gramya-bhogan). Instead they gave birth to Pris'nigarbha, an incomplete Krishna.
In the VISHNU PURANA BOOK V CHAPTER 2 the first verse states quote:
"The nurse of the universe, Jaggadhatri, thus enjoined by the god of gods, CONVEYED SIX SEVERAL EMBRYOS into the womb of Devaki, and the SEVENTH ONE, after a season into Rohini's womb."
None of Devaki's children were concieved through sex.
The verse below states that Krishna was concieved through mental transmission rather than sex...
"Thereafter accompanied by plenary expansions the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna, was TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. Devaki having thus been initiated by Vasudeva became beautiful by carrying Lord Krishna within the core of her heart and womb."
we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy? for the human? lives because of money.
we are aware of the? governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are humans, we declare war on the? corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your? life has value. we are legion, expect us!
@daryps03 I am aware of Operation Mockingbird that you speak of. But there will always be corruption and you can stop people from being greedy(which I don't think is bad). The free market is the only system that you can strive for personal goals and help millions in the process. Ron Paul 2012
why can't any refutation to the zeitgeist movies be made against their claims on the intelligence content given to leaders and the purposes
Why don't religious people understand 666 was aramaic numerology for Emporer Nero, and all apocalyptic literature was using metaphors for current issues?
if you have some time and are have an open enough mind, check out
oyc(dot)yale(dot)edu/religious-studies
kelbykross1 11 hours ago
All scientific credibility in the Bible goes out the window when the snake and donkey talk fluent Hebrew
pistolpete667 1 day ago
@pistolpete667 my dog is a little rusty in her Aramaic.
kelbykross1 11 hours ago
Religion is the Opium of the people and allows governments to control the masses. As you can see from this video, it's using fear to keep everyone in place. The Zeitgeist movie provides facts, allows thoughtful consideration and offers hope.
rrgarcia71 2 days ago
of all the parts of zeitgeist why do people always get stuck on the religious part? It was almost insignificant compared to the rest. There is far more observable empirical evidence against Christianity and god in our every day lives using reasoning... Zeitgeist was another nail out of thousands into the coffin of god and religion.
DieOrBlink 3 days ago
@DieOrBlink I clicked this expecting to seem an actual discussion of the movie. Not them talk extensively on what took up maybe a few minutes of the video and the video dismissed Religion as relatively unimportant, except in the believer's dogma could be a problem with having positive change.
Codylupardus 1 day ago
@Codylupardus 'Exactly!
DieOrBlink 14 hours ago
Crazy to think that people believe this as fact. It's ok to not know what happens when you die kiddies....it actually makes living that much better
jfu222 3 days ago
how bout lets solve the worlds problems instead of blindly memorizing a book. faith is good, chauvinism is bad
smirnovnice1 3 days ago
Total stupidity!
Time for change is here, get of your ego and do something anything to make a difference towards improving some strangers life no matter how small and or insignificant it may seem it's the collective effort that makes a difference, and things change with action!
Peter Joseph paints the picture clearly. And I say picture because we have become very visually inclined since the invention of television.
DRWMF 3 days ago
40 seconds was too much time to waste on this
Neweddy24 4 days ago
ZzzzZZZzzzzZZZZZ!
Genevy15 5 days ago
Holy shit. This is NO different than Zeitgeist, just in the OPPOSITE direction. There's nothing here that empirically proves Zeitgeist wrong and relies on the same logically fallacies for its arguments. Helpful hint: logical fallacies are inherently false. Both you and Peter Joseph deserve to be taken out into the woods and put to death for your crimes against knowledge and wisdom.
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As soon as I heard "unbelievers" and bible extracts as primary scientific sources I dismissed this as baseless religious rhetoric. Petitio principii is outmoded, outdated and boring.
Cian23able 1 week ago
it dont bother me when bambi's mum dies
TheDubious1991 1 week ago
The best thing I can see to do is ignore these closed minded christian peoples and not allow their misguided ideals to get any traction.
hvacdg10 1 week ago
Perfectly pathetic, and your bible can't help you with your delusional disorder. It only makes it worse. A psychiatrist can prescribe medicine and offer a treatment plan. It's your only hope.
oilynight 2 weeks ago
rolling on the floor laughing
AlectheGoodNeighbor 2 weeks ago
Yea ive been an anti-christ since I able to THINK. I laughed so much when he said "unbiased" LOL. Since when has a chirstian ever been unbiased about ANYTHING other than christianity? What a completely idiotic thing to put in any religious video, if you weren't so damn biased YOURSELF you'd understand what zeitgeist is trying to get people focused on, and that is the well being of our planet and everything that lives on it
bloodrelifhehe 2 weeks ago
This is the saddest thing I've ever seen. LOLOLOLOL Your quoting the bible as evidence. OYG, so sad.
maxxpirk 2 weeks ago
I don't hate Christianity, I don't hate theology, but I just watched zeitgeist and I wanted a counter perspective, but this is sort of retarded. If you are going to refute something, you have to actually refute it, you can't just make one big video fallacy that asserts nothing. The whole Jesus as the sun thing is questionable, but stuff like this makes me believe it.
Dogmalix 2 weeks ago
What's a 'Zeitgeist'?
TheGenuineChristian 2 weeks ago
@TheGenuineChristian Zeitgeist is a word of German origin meaning "The spirit of the times".
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Horus > Trinity
The egyptians deified the sun as a trinity of gods: Osiris, the Father, Horus, the Son, and Ra, the Highest Sun; each corresponding to a at least one of the sun's 3 key positions throughout the day. Osiris represented the setting sun and is reborn as horus the rising sun. Ra, who alone represented the mid-day sun completes the trinity as Ra-Horakty (translates to 'Ra who is Horus of the Two Horizons') the conflation of all three deities and positions of the sun
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Horus > Salvation and Redemption
Death and Salvation in Ancient Egypt by Egyptologist Jan Assman
Page 38 "Horus, the son, was responsible for the aspect of redemption from death."
Page 58 "I am one of you, Salvation from Death through inclusion."
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Horus > Sinless
Metternich Stele 400BC
"She sought advice from Serqet, as the authority on scorpions, and then appealed to gods, and Ra in particular, with these words: Horus has been stung. O Ra; your son Horus has been stung ***WHO IS WITHOUT SIN***"
The Book of the Dead: The Book of Going Forth by Day translated by RO Faulkner Carol Andrews James Wasserman Page 103 "I am Horus who is in hearts...I HAVE COMMITED NO SINS against the gods and nothing shall be deducted from my vindication"
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Horus > Morning Star
Jesus refers to himself as the "Morning Star" in Revelation 22:16: I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright ****MORNING STAR****
Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts by R.O Faulkner: "O MORNING STAR, Horus of the Dlet, divine falcon, widwid-bird whom the sky bore..."
Egyptian Book of the Dead Chapter 109 "I know the souls of the easterns, they are Horakty (Horus of the horizons), the sun calf, and the ****MORNING STAR****
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Horus > Star in the East
Pyramid Texts translated by R.O Faulkner
"You are this ****LONE STAR**** that comes forth from the *****EAST**** of the sky, and who will surrender himself to Horus of the Netherworld..."
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Horus > Walking on Water
Horus is referred to as ****LAKE STRIDER**** in the Pyramid Texts
Pyramid Texts translated by James P. Allen Pages 118, 154
Pyramid Texts translated By Raymond Faulkner Page 192
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Horus> 3 Day Death and Resurrection Con't [1]
From the Pyramid Texts
Utterance 667 1941b. "Oh Horus (N) this hour of the morning of this ****Third Day**** is come, when thou surely passet on to heaven, together with the stars, imperishable stars"
Utterance 556
1382f "This hour of the ****Third Day**** has come, where the father Osiris will be reborn as Horus, at the place where the gods are born.."
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Horus > 3 Day Death and Resurrection
According to the Ikhernofret Stela (2000 BC) Osiris' Death and Resurrection was celebrated in a 5 day festival known as the "Passion Plays". He is entombed on the 2nd day and remains so until the 4th day (****3 DAYS****) Afterwards, on the last day of the festival he is reborn AT DAWN. This is why Horus represented the sun's rising position,whereas Osiris represented the sun's setting position; Horus is symbolic of Osiris' resurrection or rebirth at dawn.
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Horus > Anointed One Con't (1)
Pyramid Texts Utterance 576
1505a "He is thy seed, Osiris, the pointed .. in his name of Horus of the Great Green; Horus of the chief of spirits".'
1511a "He ***ANOINTS*** himself with the best ointment"
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Horus > Anointed One
Pyramid Texts Utterance 77
52a Oil Oil arise open thou; Thou who art on the forehead of Horus, arise, open Thou.
52b Thou who art on the forehead of Horus, put thyself on the forehead of this N. (pharoah)
52c Make him sweet with thyself (**PERFUMED OIL**); glorify him with thyself
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Horus > Teacher at Age 12 Con't (2)
Second Story of Khamuas Con't: PAGE 50 " Now when the boy Si-Osiris (son of Osiris) had attained ****12 years**** it came to pass that there was no good scribe or learned man that rivalled him in reading and writing that compels."
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Horus > Teacher at Age 12 Con't (1)
His coming was prophecised in a dream: Page 43 "Setme laid him down one night and dreamed a dream, they speaking with him saying "Meh-wesekht thy wife hath concieved seed in the night. The child that shall be born, he shall be called Si-Osiris. Many the marvels he shall do in the land of Egypt"
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Horus > Teacher at Age 12
The Second Story of Khamuas (400BC)Griffith F.LI Stories of the High Priest of Memphis; The Sethon of Of Herodotus and the Demotic Tales of Khamuas
Page 43 Si-Osiris (Horus:Son of Paneche)Numerous are the marvels that he shall do in the Egypt
I would cast up my magic to Egypt that I might cause the people of Egypt to pass three days and nights without seeing light except kiki
I will not remove my spell, until you have sworn an oath to me not to return to Egypt.
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Horus > Baptism +Eucharist
Book of Gates
Chapter 5
The Gate of Tchetbi
The Fourth Division of Tuat
12 anubis headed gods say unto Ra/Horus: -- "Immerse thyself, O Ra, in the holy lake wherein the lord of the gods immersed himself, whereunto the souls of the dead approach not; this is what thou thyself has commanded. O KHUTI... Thier food consisteth of ****BREAD**** their vessels are filled with *****WINE****** ".
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Horus > Eucharist
In Chapter 5 of the Book of Gates, Horus has a separate group of 12 in his service, to whom he tells "Live delicately on the BREAD of HU, and drink ye the Ale of Maat." This ale is later referred to as the "Tchersert Drink" which translates to "Divine Drink". This concept is reworked in the NT when jesus offers 12 of his followers his body in the form of BREAD and his divine blood in the form of WINE during the Eucharist.
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Horus > Baptism
"Raise yourself, my father, recieve these your Four pleasant provision-jars
bathe in the Lake of Anubis (Anup), be cleansed in the Lake of the Netherworld." -- Pyramid Texts 512
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Horus > Exorcism
The Book of Gates Chapter 3 states that these 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who spread Truth upon Earth on his behalf, also exorcised the serpent demons: "They who uttered words of power against the serpent Apep... and have vanquished the serpent in my name". In Matthew 10:1 jesus' 12 followers are commissioned to exorcise demonic spirits in his name.
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Horus > 12 Apostles
Book of Gates
Chapter 3
The Gate of Saa-Set
The Second Division of Tuat
Note: Ra was a solar deity representing the sun's mid-day position while Horus represented the sun's rising position. By the time of the Book of Gates, Ra had already merged with Horus to represent both positions.
The Book of Gates states: "The 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who are at peace...They who praised Ra/Horus upon Earth... They who spread Truth upon Earth on Ra/Horus' behalf"
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Horus > Virgin Mother Con't (5)
Nag Hammadi (400BC):
"I am the first and the last, I am the venerated and the despised one. I am the prostitute and the saint. I am the bride and the ****VIRGIN****. I am the mother and the daughter. I am my mother's arms. I am the married woman and the unmarried one. I am She who gives birth and She who has never given birth. I am the consolation for the pains of childbirth. I am my fathers' Mother. I am my husband's sister. AND HE IS MY REJECTED SON."
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Horus > Virgin Mother Con't (4)
Isis Temple at Sais: "The present and future and past, I am. ****UNDERGARMENT NON ONE HAS UNCOVERED****. The fruit that I brought forth is the sun came into being, Horus."
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Horus > Virgin Mother Con't (3)
Inscription at the Abydos Temple of Seti I: Isis declares: 'I am the Great Virgin (hwn.t)"
"Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible": "In Egypt the epiteths dd.t, rnn.t and HWN.T, girl; young woman; VIRGIN, are applied to many goddesses e.g Hathor and ***ISIS WHO HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE***"
-- Karel van der Toorn PhD, Bob Becking PhD, Pieter w. van der Horst PhD, Erik Horunung PhD, hans Dieter Betz PhD, Andre Caquot PhD, Jonas C Green field PhD
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Horus > Virgin Mother Con't (2)
Among the Glyphs of Denderah is the depiction of the *non-physical* intercourse between Isis and Osiris. The glyphs show Isis sending out her Bah (spiritual vessel), Sothis (a hawk), the hawk being inseminated on Osiris' golden phallus while Isis' physical body stands aside, and then the hawk returning back to Isis with semen. Because the intercours between Isis and Osiris was *non-physical* in this manner, her virginity wasn't compromised.
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Horus > Virgin Mother Con't (1)
Isis/Virgo depiction:
"Lady of GREEN CROPS, Lady of BREAD, Lady of ABUNDANCE" -- Book of the Dead
"It is Isis (Sirius) the beloved daughter, who provides the YEARLY SUSTENANCE (flooding the Nile for crops) for you in her name of "Year" -- Pyramid Texts
"Isis (Sirius) is the opener of the Year's flood yielding crops"
All of the above depictions of Isis refer to Harvest which is why the Greeks designated their constellation of Harvest a VIRGIN GODDESS.
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Horus > Virgin Mother
1. It is a well documented fact that the greek religion is a mirror of the egyptian religion e.g Dionysis is actually Osiris, Typhon is actually set, Hermes is actually Thoth, etc. With that said, Virgo's glyph is a **VIRGIN** holding WHEAT (Bread) and CORN (Spica) as Virgo is the constellation of Harvest, and this is how the egyptians depicted Isis:
"Lady of Green Crops, Lady of Bread, Lady of Abundance.." -- Egyptian Book of the Dead
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Horus > Crucified on a Tree Con't ( 1 )
In numerous biblical verses, jesus is said to have died on a tree while tradition holds that it happened on a cross. Esoterically, this tree and cross discrepancy is meant to symbolize the Djed Tree and Ankh Cross from Horus and Attis' mythologies.
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Horus > Crucified on a Tree
In the Book of the Dead Ani Papyrus translated by Raymond Faulkner an illustration of Horus shows him spectacled in cruciform (arms outstretched) on the ANKH CROSS and DJED PILLAR / TREE TRUNK (containing Osiris' dead body). The twins, Isis-Meri(mother) and Nephtys-Meri (her sister) are at the feet of the figure, just s the two sister Mary's (+Magdaline) in John 19;15. The Ankh Cross is the key to Eternal Life that Horus achieves for his follows through death.
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Jesus > Crucified on a Tree Con't (1)
"The god of our father raised up, who ye slew and hanged up on a ***TREE***."
"And we are witnesses of the things which jesus did both in the land of the jews, and in jerusalem; who ye slew and hanged on a ***TREE*** " (Acts 10:39)
"And they had fulfilled all that was written on him, they took jesus down from the ***TREE*** and laid him in a sepulchre." (Acts 13:29)
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Jesus > Crucified on a Tree
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of law, being made a curse for us: it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a TREE" (Gal 3:13)
"Jesus bore our sins in his own body on a TREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness; by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:23)
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Attis > Crucified on a Tree
"Pines high-girdled, in a leafy crest, the favorite of Gods' Great Mother, since in this TREE Attis Cybelious doffed his human shape and stiffened in it's TRUNK (DJED PILLAR)" -- Ovid Metamorphoses 10. 103 (43 BC -- 17 AD)
This is why during the Hilaria festival (3 day death) an effigy of Attis was hung on a PINE TREE and wheeled through the city of Rome. During the ceremony a BULL or RAM representing Osiris was sacrificed at the base of the tree.
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Krishna > Crucified on a Tree
Srimad Bhagavatam
Canto 11
Chapter 30
Verse 27-33
"Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna found a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth... Having the form of the deers face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
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Gilgamesh > Virgin Mother
Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 1:
"Child of Lugal Banda's wife and the some great force. Gilgamesh is the finest child of Ninsun; who NEVER LET A MAN TOUCH HER, indeed so pure and heavenly, so without sin."
Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 2:
"Gilgamesh awoke with fear in his heart. Gilgamesh cried out and arose. Gilgameh went to his mother ***VIRGIN*** Cow Lady, Ninsun."
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Shaktism > Virgin Mother
"Surya, the SUN, then said: O Beautiful Kunti! If you satisfy me YOUR VIRGINITY WILL REMAIN; nobody will come to know and there will be born a son to you exactly like me."
[Devi Bhagavatam, The Second Book, Chapter 6, On the Birth of Pandavas, Lines 13 - 35]
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Mithra > Virgin Mother
"Aruru thought of Anu. Then she wet her creative fingers, FASHIONED A ROCK, tossed it as far as she could into the woods. Thus she FATHERED Enkidu."
[Epic of Gilgamesh]
Mithra is called "Theos ek Petras" or "God from the Rock" because he is another version of Enkidu who was "born from the rock" created by the mother goddess, Aruru. The mithraic equivalent of Aruru is the mother goddess, the Virgin Anahita.
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Attis > Virgin Mother Con't (1)
Probert's Encyclopedia: "In sumerian mythology, Nana was a VIRGIN MOTHER goddess of the spirit of vegetation and infertility, a beloved consort of kings."
A mythical fragment in a hymn cycle to Inana reads:
10-22 "My lady, on your aquiring the stature of Heaven, ***virgin*** Inana."
22-24 "I shall praise the lady of battle, the great child of Suen, ***virgin*** Inana."
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Attis > Virgin Mother
"Zeus let his seed fall upon the ground, which in the course of time sent up a demon with two sexual organs, male and female. They called the demon agdistis. But the gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ. There grew up from it an almond-tree and with it's fruit ripe, and a daughter of the river Sangarious (Nana) took the fruit and laid it between her breast. When it at once disappeared she was pregnant with Attis"
-- Hermesniax 330 B.C
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Attis > 3 Day Death and Resurrection
Hilaria was an Ancient Roman solstice festival honouring Attis. It began on Easter and lasted for 7 days. On the first day of the festival attis' death is mourned and commemorated. ***3 DAYS LATER*** his resurrection is celebrated
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Dionysis > Virgin Mother Death and Resurrection
HYGINUS FABULAE 167 (1st Century BC)
"Dionysis was dismembered by the Titans, and Zeus gave his heart torn to bits to Semele in a drink. When she was made pregnant by this, Juno changing herself to look like Semele's nurse, said to her: Daughter ask Zeus to come to you as he comes to Juno so you may know what pleasure it is to sleep with a god (SHE NEVER KNEW SEX) At her suggestion Semele made this request and was stricken with a thunderbolt"
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Dionysis > December 25th
Brumalia was a roman solstice festival honouring Dionysis, generally held on December 25th. The festivals included drinking and merriment. The name was derived from the latin word "bruma", which means "shortest day". In the roman festivals, the Brumalia was a feast of Bacchus, celebrated during the space of 30 days, commencing on November 24th.
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Buddhism > Walking on Water
From "The Gospels of Buddha" chapter titled "Walking on Water"
"This stream shall not prevent me. I shall go and see the Blessed One, AND HE STEPPED UPON THE WATER WHICH WAS FIRM UNDER HIS FEET LIKE A SLAB OF GRANITE"
Another buddhist scripture featuring "water walking"..
"HE WALKS ON WATER without dividing it, as if on solid ground"
Digha Nikaya Chapter 11 (29 B.C)
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Buddhism > Star in the East
In the Buddha Karita of Asvaghosa translated by E. B Cowell, F Max Muller and J. Takakusu Book 1 Verse 25: "At the time the ***Constellation Pushya*** was auspicious, and from the side of the queen who was purified by her vow her son was born for the welfare of the world" (Book 1 Verse 25)
The Constellation Pushya was given the title TISHYA, and in various traditions, Sirius, the Star in the East, shares the same title.
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Buddhism > Virgin Mother Con't (1)
3. (English translation of the Buddha-karita of Asvaghosa by E.B Cowell, F. Max Muller and J. Takakusu, Book 1 Verse 19-20) "Then falling from the host of being in the Tushita heaven..the most excellent of bodhisatvas suddenly ***entered a thought within her WOMB.*** "
4. (The Gospels of Buddha Chapter 4) "As the Queen of Heaven she lived on Earth UNTAINTED BY DESIRE AND IMMACULATE."
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1. Buddhacarita, Asvaghosa. Translated by Conze, E (1959)
"One day she concieved the fruit of her womb but without any DEFILEMENT (SEX)"
2. (The Life of Buddha Chapter 1)
"My Lord I ask you to respect my austere life. Do not enter the dim forest of desire; allow me to observed the HOLY LAW OF ABSTINENCE."
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Hinduism > Star in the East Con't (1)
As a matter of fact, the hindus even have an astrotheology for this alignment. According to the Rig Veda (1700 BC), Rohini's father, Prajapati (Orion), had an incestuous affair with her. When the order was given to execute him for this, Sirius (the archer) shoots him an arrow. The three stars on Orion's Belt represent the arrow with which he was shot.
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Hinduism > Star in the East
Krishna's birth was signaled by the Star in the East. In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 3 "The Birth of Krishna" the first line reads: "Then there was a supreme hour all-auspicious and most suitable with the ROHINI CONSTELLATION rising and all the stars in a FAVORABLE POSITION."
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Hinduism > Virgin Mother Con't (2)
According to the Srimad Bhagavatam, Vishnu chose Devaki and Vasudeva because they lived the most non-sensual, austere lives. It states that they endured aeons of "TAPASYA" OR "MORTIFICATION" (no sex or material indulgences -- extreme self-discipline). Furthermore, they could not give birth to Krishna in their PAST LIVES due to having sex just once (gramya-dharma or gramya-bhogan). Instead they gave birth to Pris'nigarbha, an incomplete Krishna.
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In the VISHNU PURANA BOOK V CHAPTER 2 the first verse states quote:
"The nurse of the universe, Jaggadhatri, thus enjoined by the god of gods, CONVEYED SIX SEVERAL EMBRYOS into the womb of Devaki, and the seventh one, after a season into Rohini's womb."
None of Devaki's children were conceived through sex
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Hinduism > Virgin Mother
The verse below states that Krishna was conceived through mental transmission rather than sex:
"Thereafter accompanied by plenary expansions the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna was TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. Devaki having thus been initiated by Vasudeva became beautiful by carrying Lord Krishna within the core of her heart and womb."
-- Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 2 Line 18
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there is a video on youtube that says the holucost was a hoax and it has 1,800 likes ans 200 dilikes.
so do you believe that ?
Even atheist debunked the ziegiest loser moverment
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Horus: Trinity
The egyptians deified the sun as a trinity of gods -- Osiris, the Father, Horus, the Son, and Ra, the Highest Sun -- each corresponding to at least one of the sun's 3 key positions throughout the day. Osiris represented the *setting* sun and is reborn as horus the *rising* sun. Ra, who alone represented the *mid-day* sun completes the trinity as Ra-Horakty (translates to "Ra who is Horus of the Two Horizons") the conflation of all three gods and positions of the sun.
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Horus: Salvation and Redemption
Death and Salvation in Ancient Egypt by Jan Assman (egyptologist)
Page 38 "Horus, the son, was responsible for the aspect of redemption from death."
Page 58 "I am one of you, Salvation from Death through inclusion."
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Horus: Sinless
Metternich Stele 400BC "She sought advice from Serqet, as the authority on scorpions, and then appealed to gods, and Ra in particular, with these words: Horus has been stung. O Ra; your son Horus has been stung WHO IS WITHOUT SIN"
The Book of the Dead: The Book of Going Forth by Day By RO Faulkner, Carol Andrews, James Wasserman Page 103 29A " I m Horus who is in hearts....I have commited no sins against the gods and nothing shall be deducted from my vindication.
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Horus: Morning Star
Jesus refers to himself as the "Morning Star" in Revelations 22:16: I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright ***MORNING STAR***
Pyramid Texts Translated by RO Faulkner: "O MORNING STAR, Horus of the Dlet, divine falcon, widwid-bird whom the sky bore..."
Book of the Dead Chapter 109 "I know the souls of the easterners, they are Horakty (Horus of the horizons), the sun calf, and the ***MORNING STAR***
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Horus: Star in the East
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts (Translated by R.O Faulkner)
"You are this LONE STAR that comes forth from the EAST of the sky, and who will surrender himself to Horus of the Netherworld..."
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Horus: Walking on Water
Horus is referred to as LAKE STRIDER in the Pyramid Texts
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts, James P. Allen Pages 118, 154
The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts, R O Faulkner Page 192
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Horus: 3 Day Death and Resurrection Con't (1)
Pyramid Texts Utterance 667
1941b. "this hour of the morning of this ****THIRD DAY*** is come, when thou surely passet on to heavean, together with the stars, imperishable stars"
Utterance 556
1382f. "this hour of the ****THIRD DAY*** comes, where the father Osiris will be reborn as Horus, at the place where the gods are born..."
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Horus: 3 Day Death and Resurrection
According to the Ikhernofret Stela (2000 BC) Osiris' Death and Resurrection was celebrated in a 5 day festival known as the "Passion Plays". He is entombed on the 2nd day, and remains so until the 4th day (***3 DAYS***). Afterwards, on the 5th day he is reborn AT DAWN. This is why Horus represented the sun's *rising* position, whereas Osiris represented the sun's *setting* position; Horus is symbolic of Osiris' resurrection/rebirth
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Horus: Anointed One Con't (1)
Pyramid Texts Utterance 576
1505.a "He is thy seed, Osiris, the pointed...in his name of "Horus of the great green"; "Horus of the chief of spirits".
1511.a "He ANOINTS himself with the best ointment"
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Horus: Annointed One
Pyramid Texts Utterance 77
52.a Oil Oil arise open thou; (thou) who art on the forehead of Horus, arise, open thou.
52.b Thou who art on the forehead of Horus, put thyself on the forehead of this N. (pharoah)
52c. Make him sweet with thyself (PERFUMED OIL); glorify him with thyself
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Horus: Teacher at Age12 Con't (2)
Second Story of Khamuas Con't: PAGE 50 "Now when the boy Si-Osiris (son of Osiris) had attained ---******12 YEARS***** it came to pass that there was no good scribe or learned man that rivalled him in reading and writing that compels."
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Horus: Teacher at Age 12 Con't (1)
His coming was prophecised in a dream: Page 43 "Setme laid him down one night and dreamed a dream, they speaking with him saying "Meh-wesekht thy wife hath concieved seed in the night. The child that shall be born, he shall be called Si-Osiris. Many are the marvels he shall do in the land of Egypt."
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Horus: Teacher at Age 12
The Second Story of Khamuas (400 BC) Griffith F.LI Stories of the High Priest of Memphis; The Sethon of Herodotus and the Demotic Tales of Khamuas
Page 43 Si-Osiris (Horus, Son of Paneche) Numerous are the marvels that he shall do in Egypt
I would cast up my magic up to Egypt that I might cause the people of Egypt to pass three days and nights without seeing light except kiki
I will not remove my spell, until you have sworn an oath to me not to return to Egypt
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Horus: Baptism + Eucharist
Book of Gates
Chapter 5
The Gate of Tchetbi
Fourth Division of Tuat
12 anubis headed gods say unto Ra/Horus: -- "Immerse thyself, O Ra, in the holy lake wherein the lord of the gods immersed himself, whereuto the souls of the dead approach not; this is why thou thyself has commanded. O KHUTI... Their food consisteth of *****BREAD***** their vessels are filled with ****WINE****
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Horus: Eucharist
In Chapter 5 of the Book of Gates, Horus is said to have a separate group of 12 in his service, to whom he tells "Live delicatley on the BREAD of HU, and drink ye the Ale of Maat". This ale is later referred to as the "Tchersert Drink" which translates to "Divine Drink". This concept is reworked in the NT when jesus offers 12 of his followers his body in the form of BREAD and his divine blood in the form of WINE during the Eucharist.
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Horus: Baptism
"Raise yourself, my father, recieve these your Four pleasant provision-jars
bathe in the Lake of Anubis (Anup), be cleansed in the Lake of the Netherworld." -- Pyramid Texts 512
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Horus: Exorcism
The Book of Gates Chapter 3 states that these 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who spread Truth upon Earth on his behalf, also exorcised demonic spirits: "They who uttered words of power against the SERPENT...and have vanquished the SERPENT in my name"
jesus' 12 followers who were commissioned to spread the word of christ were also instructed to exorcise demonic spirits in the name of christ
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Horus: 12 Apostles
Book of Gates
Chapter 3
The Gate of Saa-Set
The Second Division of Tuat
Note: Ra was a solar deity representing the sun's *mid-day* position while Horus represented the sun's *rising* position. By the time of the Book of Gates, Ra had already merged with Horus to represent both positions.
The Book of Gates states: "The 12 worshippers of Ra/Horus who are at peace...They who praised Ra/Horus upon Earth...They who spread Truth upon Earth on Ra/Horus' behalf"
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Horus: Virgin Mother Con't (5)
Nag Hammadi (400BC): "Im am the first and the last, I am the venerated and the despised one I am the prostitute and the saint. I am the bride and the *****VIRGIN*****. I am the mother and the daughter. I am my mother's arms, I am the married woman and the unmarried one. I and She who gives birth and She who has never given birth. I am the consolation for the pains of childbirth. I am my father's Mother, I am my husband's sister. AND HE IS MY REJECTED SON."
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Horus: Virgin Mother Con't (4)
Isis Temple at Sais: "The present and future and past, I am. ***MY UNDERGARMENT NO ONE HAS UNCOVERED***. The fruit that I brought forth is the sun (horus) came into being."
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Horus: Virgin Mother Con't (3)
Inscription at the Abydos Temple of Seti I: Isis declares: "I am the Great VIRGIN (hwn.t)"
"Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible": "In Egypt the epiteths dd.t, rnn.t and HWN.T, 'girl; young woman; VIRGIN, are applied to many goddesses e.g Hathor and -- ISIS WHO HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE"
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Horus: Virgin Mother Con't (2)
Among the Glyphs of Denderah is the depiction of the *non-physical* intercourse between Isis and Osiris. The glyphs show Isis sending out her Bah (spiritual vessel), Sothis (a hawk), the hawk being inseminated on Osiris' golden phallus while Isis' physical body stands aside, and then the hawk returning back to Isis with semen. Because the intercourse between Isis and Osiris was *non-physical*, her virginity wasn't compromised.
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Horus: Virgin Mother Con't (1)
Isis/Virgo depiction:
"Lady of Green Crops, Lady of Bread, Lady of Abundance" -- Book of the Dead
"It is Sirius (Isis) the beloved daughter, who provides the YEARLY SUSTENANCE (flooding of the Nile for crops) for you in her name of "Year" -- Pyramid Texts
"Sirius (Isis) is the opener of the Year's flood yeilding crops"
All of the above depictions of Isis refer to Harvest which is why the Greeks designated their constellation of Harvest a VIRGIN GODDESS
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Horus: Virgin Mother
1. It is a well documented fact that the greek religion is but a mirror of the egyptian religion e.g Dionysis is actually Osiris, Typhon is actually Set, Hermes is actually Thoth, etc. With that said, the glyph for Virgo is a Virgin holding WHEAT (Bread) and CORN (Spica) as Virgo is the constellation of HARVEST, and this is how the Egyptians depicted Isis:
"Lady of GREEN CROPS, Lady of BREAD, Lady of Abundance..." -- Book of the Dead
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Jesus: Crucified on a Tree Con't (1)
"The god of our father raised up, who ye slew and hanged up on a TREE."
"And we are witnesses of the things which jesus did both in the land of the jews, and in Jerusalem; who ye slew and hanged on a TREE (Acts 10:39)
"And they had fulfilled all that was written on him, they took jesus down from the TREE and laid him in a sepulchre." (Acts 13:29)
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Jesus: Crucified on a Tree
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a TREE" (Gal 3:13)
"Jesus bore our sins in his own body on the TREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." (1 Peter 2:24)
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Horus: Crucified on a Tree Con't (1)
In numerous bibical verses, jesus is said to have died on a tree while tradition holds that it happened on a cross. Esoterically, this tree/cross discrepancy is meant to symbolize the Djed Tree and Ankh Cross from Horus and Attis' mythology.
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Horus: Crucified on a Tree
The Egyptian Book of the Dead (Ani Papyrus, RO Faulkner, pl.1) shows Horus spectacled in cruciform (arms outstretched) on the ANKH CROSS and DJED PILLAR / TREE TRUNK (containing his dead body...osiris' body). The twins, Isis-Meri and Nephtys-Meri are at the feet of the figure, just as the two sister Marys (+ Magdaline) in jonh 19:15. The Ankh Cross is the key to Eternal Life that Horus/Osiris achieves for his follower through death.
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Attis: Crucified on a Tree
"Pines high-girdled, in a leafy crest, the favorite of God's Great Mother,since in this TREE Attis Cybelious doffed his human shape and stiffened in it's TRUNK (DJED PILLAR + ANKH CROSS) " -- Ovid Metamorphoses 10. 103 (43 BC -- 17 AD)
This is why during the Hilaria festival (3 day death) and effiy of Attis was hung on a PINE TREE and wheeled through the city of Rome. During the ceremony a BULL OR RAM representing Osiris was sacrificed at the base of of the tree
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Krishna: Crucified on a Tree
Srimad Bhagavatam
Canto 11
Chapter 30
Verse 27-33
"Seeing that Rama had left, Krishna finding a pippala TREE, sat silently down on the lap of the earth...Having the form of a deers face, HIS FEET WERE THEN PIERCED by an arrow of a hunter named Jara who thought he saw a deer."
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Gilgamesh: Virgin Mother
"Child of Lugal Banda's wife and some great force. Gilgamesh is the finest child of ninsun; who NEVER LET A MAN TOUCH HER, indeed so pure and heavenly, so without sin."
[Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 1]
"Gilgamesh awoke with fear in his heart. Gilgamesh cried out and arose. Gilgamesh went to his mother VIRGIN Lady, Ninsun."
[Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 2]
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Shaktism: Virgin Mother
"Surya, the SUN, then said: O Beautiful Kunti! IF YOU SATISFY ME YOUR VIRGINITY WILL REMAIN; nobody will come to know and THERE WILL BE BORN A SON TO YOU exactly like me."
(Devi Bhagavatam, The Second Book, Chapter 6, On the Birth of Pandavas, Lines 13-35]
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Mithra: Virgin Mother
"Aruru thought of Anu. Then she wet her creative fingers, FASHIONED A ROCK, tossed it as far as she could into the woods. Thus she FATHERED Enkidu."
[Epic of Gilgamesh 2150-2000BC]
Mithra is called "Theos ek Petras' or "God from the Rock' because he is another version of Enkidu who was born from the rock created by the mother goddess, Aruru. The mithraic equivalent of Aruru is the Virgin Anahita / mother goddess.
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Attis: Virgin Mother Con't (1)
Attis' Mother, Nana, is a pagan incarnation of sumerian VIRGIN GODDESSES, NANA AND INANA.
PROBERTS ENCYCLOPEDIA: "In Sumerian mythology, Nana was a VIRGIN MOTHER goddess of the spirit of vegetation and infertility, a beloved consort of kings."
A mythical fragment in a hymn cycle to Inana reads:
10-22 "My lady, on your aquiring the stature of Heaven, VIRGIN Inana."
22-24 "I shall praise the lady of battle, the great child of Suen, VIRGIN Inana."
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Attis: Virgin Mother
"Zeus let fall in his sleep seed upon the ground, which in the course of time sent up a demon, with two sexual organs, male and female. They called the demon agdistis. But the gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ. There grew up from it an almond-tree with it's fruit ripe, and a daughter of the river Sangarious (NANA) took the fruit and laid it in her bosom. When it at once disappeared she was with a child (Attis)"
[Hermesniax 330 B.C]
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Attis: 3 Day Death and Resurrection
Hilaria was an Ancient Roman solstice festival honouring Attis. It began on EASTER and laster for 7 days. On the first day of the festival attis' death is mourned and commemorated. 3 DAYS LATER his resurrection is celebrated.
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Dionysis: Virgin Mother, Death and Resurrection
HYGINUS FABULAE 167 (1st Century BC)
"Dionysis was dismembered by the Titans, and Zeus gave his heart torn to bits to Semele in a drink. When she was made pregnant by this, Juno, changing herself to look like Semele's nurse, said to her: Daughter, ask Zeus to come to you as he comes to Juno, so you may know what pleasure it is to sleep with a god (NEVER KNEW SEX) At her suggestion Semele made this request and was stricken with a thunderbolt"
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Dionysis: December 25th
Brumalia was an ancient roman solstice festival honouring Dionysis, generally held on December 25th. The festivals included drinking and merriment. The name was derived from the latin word "bruma", which means "shortest day". In the roman festivals, the Brumalia was a feast of Bacchus, celebrated during tthe space of 30 days, commencing on November 24th.
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Buddhism: Walking on Water
From "The Gospels of Buddha" chapter titled "Walking on Water"
"This stream shall not prevent me. I shall go and see the Blessed One, AND HE STEPPED UPON THE WATER WHICH WAS FIRM UNDER HIS FEET LIKE A SLAB OF GRANITE"
Here's another buddhist scripture featuring "water walking"
"HE WALKS ON WATER without dividing it, as if on solid ground"
Digha Nikaya Chapter 11 (29 B.C)
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Buddhism: Star in the East
In the Buddha Karita of Asvaghosa translated by E.B Cowell, F Max Muller and J. Takakusu Book 1 Verse 25 it states: "At the time the CONSTELLATION PUSHYA was auspicious, and from the side of the queen who was purified by her vow her son was born for the welfare of the world" (Book 1 Verse 25)
The Constellation Pushya was given the title TISHYA, and in various traditions, Sirius, the Star in the East, shares the same title.
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Buddhism: Virgin Mother Con't (1)
3. (English translation of the Buddha-karita of Asvaghosa by E.B Cowell, F. Max Muller and J. Takakusu, Book 1 Verse 19-20) "Then falling from the host of being in the Tushita heaven...the most excellent of bodhisatvas suddenly ENTERED A THOUGHT WITHIN HER WOMB."
4. (The Gospels of Buddha Chapter 4) "As the Queen of Heaven she lived on Earth UNTAINTED BY DESIRE AND IMMACULATE."
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Buddhism: Virgin Mother
1. Buddhacarita, Asvaghosa. Translated by Conze, E. (1959), [Buddhist Scriptures]
"One day she concieved the fruit of her womb but without any DEFILEMENT (SEX)"
2. (The Life of Buddha Chapter 1)
"My Lord I ask you to respect my austere life. Do not enter the dim forest of desire; allow me to observed the HOLY LAW OF ABSTINENCE."
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Hinduism: Star in the East Con't (1)
As a matter of fact, the hindus even have an astrotheology for this alignment. According to the Rig Veda (1700 BC), Rohini's father, Prajapati (Orion), had an incestuous affair with her. When the order was given to execute him for this, Sirius (the Archer) shoots him with an arrow. The three stars on Orion's Belt represent the arrow with which he was shot.
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Hinduism: Star in the East
Krishna's birth was signaled by the Star in the East. In the Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 3 "The Birth of Krishna" the very first line reads: "Then there was a supreme hour all-auspicious and most suitable with the ROHINI CONSTELLATION rising and all the stars in a FAVORABLE POSITION."
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Hinduism: Virgin Mother Con't (2)
According to the Srimad Bhagavatam, Vishnu chose Devaki and Vasudeva because they lived the most non-sensual, austere lives. It states that they endured aeons of "TAPASYA" or "MORTIFICATION" (no sex or material indulgences -- extreme self-discipline). Furthermore, they could not give birth to Krishna in their PAST LIVES due to having sex just once (gramya-dharma or gramya-bhogan). Instead they gave birth to Pris'nigarbha, an incomplete Krishna.
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Hinduism: Virgin Mother Con't (1)
In the VISHNU PURANA BOOK V CHAPTER 2 the first verse states quote:
"The nurse of the universe, Jaggadhatri, thus enjoined by the god of gods, CONVEYED SIX SEVERAL EMBRYOS into the womb of Devaki, and the SEVENTH ONE, after a season into Rohini's womb."
None of Devaki's children were concieved through sex.
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Hinduism: Virgin Mother
The verse below states that Krishna was concieved through mental transmission rather than sex...
"Thereafter accompanied by plenary expansions the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna, was TRANSFERRED FROM THE MIND OF VASUDEVA TO THE MIND OF DEVAKI. Devaki having thus been initiated by Vasudeva became beautiful by carrying Lord Krishna within the core of her heart and womb."
[Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 2 Line 18]
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we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy? for the human? lives because of money.
we are aware of the? governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are humans, we declare war on the? corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your? life has value. we are legion, expect us!
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@daryps03 I am aware of Operation Mockingbird that you speak of. But there will always be corruption and you can stop people from being greedy(which I don't think is bad). The free market is the only system that you can strive for personal goals and help millions in the process. Ron Paul 2012
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