Some of our neigbours would be very very surpriced, who borrowed from whom more. According to Béla Bartók the hungarians lended far much more, then borrowed from his neighbours. Aspecially this is true for the music. According to his research this tune is one of the most ancient hungarian tune. Very close relation with the mourning for dead.
I would like to pay attantion for our romanian friends, that this tune played by Márton Fehér is one of the most ancient Hungarian tune. You can record it or its variations in every region where hungarians live (even near Austria) In many places the tune used as verbunkmusik. That is true that the csángó instrumental music has a huge effect of the romanian traditional music, but NOT THIS TUNE!!!!
Úgyhogy a politikát félretéve, szerintem nagyon jól játszanak, meg nekem külön tetszik, hogy a koboz is jól hallatszik a felvételen. Ha valaki tud vmit a zenészekről akkor ossza meg velünk legyen szíves! Köszi
Istenem miért kell ennek a sok románnak belepofázni mindenbe. Írjátok, hogy jó vagy rossz és kész, de a népzenéből ne csináljunk már dák-román elméletet! Köszi
astia/s tigani care canta cu instrumentele si canta melodii pe care le invata de la ungurii care trec pe la racaciuni sau cleja(somusca)... mi se pare ok..fac si lautarii cate un banut fara sa stie ca nu fac chiar un serviciu comunitatii... dar ce m,ai conteaza! oamenii trebuie "sa mananca si ei"!
I think your opinion is not right. And if you say csangos are rumanian you don't know anything about csangos. And you have to think about why are they chatolics and speaking a kind of hungarian language. the folksongs are also similar other folksongs in hungary etc..
you have to THINk about, and You would have been more clever If you haven't written this shit
Blah,blah, blah, you talk to much but don't say anything constructive.800 hundred year ago there were no Romanians in northern Transylvania,don't make your selves the victims here,you are the ones exterminating the Hungarians,not even forcing Romanization of Hungarians,In Hungary there are some ethnic Romanians in Mehkerek Hungary, and they have there Romanian heritage,and no one DOES DESTROY IT,they live in peace...Learn your History,you need it...
First of all, I don't want to quarrel, but it's highly recommended for Romanisipunctum and Biokosmy, to read and learn universal history again. I'm not "national emotional", and I know what I'm talkin about.
Anyway, the music is beatiful, I love from the age of 5 ^^
Why don't you read Ducso Csaba "No Mercy" fascist book, used as a Bible by your Hortyst compatriots to "kill even the Romanian babies from their mother's breasts" (which Huns DID as early as 1939-1944) until the Romanians liberated N. Transylvania?
Or about the800 years of "Transylvanian Diet" where the Romanian MAJORITY was NOT EVEN RECOGNIZED as a NATION by the Hungarian colonists, let alone to allowfor their reppresentation.
Or about FORCED Magyarization of Romanians, INCLUDING the Ceangai?
Listen..I would like to know what part of wrong you don't understand.The Hungarians are the real victims,you (Romanians) made this history up( fake it) that's what they teach you in Romania,a ferry tail history far from the truth.sneaky liar...
Thieves! There is a reason why all your neighbors hate you and that's despite the Hungarian women who suck dick gladly upon request: and that's because you are thieves. You were thieves of land ever since you came from Mongolia under Attila the Hun(garian) and you remain thieves of customs, costumes and music.
Not your fault: it's part of your inglorious genetic make-up, like the cock-roaches'.
But don't ask us, particularly the Romanians to sit idle while you are stealing our art. Bozgors.
You are ( WRONG),.This tune is very Hungarian,has been Hungarian and will be Hungarian, if you don't have to say anything constructive,,then SHUT UP!!...
Hungarians are not native to this part of Europe,so what they've got on cultural level is borrowed from local slovenians,slovacks or serbs.If you have some kind of throat singing that's totaly yours.The csangos are only 1234 and their number is droping
Go to Siberia and learn the culture of the mansi&khanty and you will find out your true cultural background; but to make it all clear,it's not a shame to acknowledge a lesser descendence ..after all,you can't all be sumerians or etruscans like that crazy ass dreamer Domokos thinks :)))))
You know, the hungarians new writing 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago, 3000 years ago, and thanks for the newest archeological results in Bostnia, probably -- and now listen!!! --- 10.000 years ago.
The ancestor of the hungarian writing is a sumer writing and its ancestor the charpatian basin writing older then 4200 years.
Do you know where were that time the indo-europeans?
We are lucky....This is told not by the hungarians, but more and more scientists, and historians of the world....
In some year everywhere in the world they will teach that the writing started from the carpatian basin, and went to mezopotamia....And the hungarian runes, the Székely-magyar-hun rovás, inheritated from there....
This writing was used 100 years ago still...But of course was told a barbaric writing and was not allowed..
Mr Fefe ,your own history is clear enough,you are not ancient people here..your history barely surpasses 1100 year in this region.Those rovas are a mix of letters borrowed from everybody,no link to sumerians..I even doubt they are hungarian to begin with
When they found the sumer towns the english archeologics asket the hungrian acadimy to send lingustics there because the found runes were very similar to the hungarian ones.
The hungarian academy under the fals theory of finno-ugor did not send anybody there
They would probably ask some turks to come since there's more turkish lexical similarity..hungarians are good at marketing the ideea only counting Rossler and his gang
Words travel from one culture to another and sumerian being the first influenced everybody ..maybe you took those words from turks in the Volga region
no,sumerian is redescovered using ancient clay tablets writen in akkadian(semitic) and sumerian..your rovas are 32%etruscan,13%semitic,43%turk and so on
History is a hobby of mine and your rovas are barely medieval..first who mentiones them was Anonymus,right? the older runes are not linked with nobody cause they are not desciphered yet..could be dacians,pechenegs or even glagolitic slavic
It was a good policy to atract german builders and investors,even in those days..but what about now? hungarian or nothing else,right? Thats why 200.000 romanians,who know how many slovak,serb and germans have been assimilated..no more haven there
The fact is ..romans erected towns in Transylvania that still has a large latin based people even today..where is the the mistery about continuity here?we are still here,my fathers side is close to Someș
Carpathians were called by ancient greeks Caucasus..i think Herodot,but I could be mistaken.Nană is romanian for aunt and sumerian means moon godes and the list is biger
atta is also the same in gothic,cauca is native here-there was a caucoenses tribe and Caucaland of the goths in Romania-so I doubt there were turks here before 400
cuca and căciulă are considered dacian words meaning the same thing..head dress-from this came coconi meaning nobels(becuase of the specific head dress)
I know the stories mr.Fefe,but there was no hungarians mentioned in any case..only neolithic people has some rights,and they are sooooo upset you are stilling from them :))
I still don't see why hungarians were so important here! Untill now,it's sure that a latin based language is still the dominant factor untill now..romanian if you had any doubt .Hungarians have some cusins up north,nothing else
and thats why the hungarian runic is similar to all runic writing, because its ancestor is the oldest writing. And the other ones, like the chinise was based on the hun. This is proven by chinise scientists.
The huns were diveded by the chinese to two part . western and eastern. The western part with Attila came back to the present hungary. Later the avars and the hungarians - magyars. They were very closed realation with Attila.Even the Árpád house in straight line.
caucă is a hill in romanian,ciuc is hill top,cucă boierească is a head dress,so what?tată and tati meaning father is similar to hittite words but I don't claim absurd theories to sooth my ego.Hungarians have nothing to do with sumerians
Someș means high and is IE for sure,not romanian or hungarian..here is a joke magyar in romanian sounds similar to magar(donkey)-have you ever heard a romanian claiming your ancestry to a romanian word just because sounds the same?
That mound in Bosnia is by no way a pyramid and if you remember..those mummies are european ,tartan fabric and neolithic tatoose, part of the IE culture
Again I tell you,languages are permisive to all kinds of influences.If you were able to read sumerian using only your hungarian knowledge,i would be the first to reckon my defeat.
This Csangos ..(oh sorry,i mean half-breads,isn't that the corect translation?) are a minority that fled from Transylvania some 200 years ago in Moldova and the fact that there is still 1000 speakers of the old dialect is a prove that nobody tried to exterminate them..yet :))
in the XIV-th century they asked from the Vatican hungarian pastors....
It is documented. But the roman catholic church would like to have a big mass of romanian speaking chatolics, that"s why the assist to their asimilation!!!
Ceangai are Hungarianized Romanians in the over 800 years of Hungarian occupation.
You may be of no fault in my distrust of Huns, but unless there is a serious apology of the Austrians and Hungarians for all the atrocities they committed throughout the 800 years of occupation of Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks, there is really no point in talking about reconcilliation.
But you can see yourself in your own country and with your own people how racism still reigns free.
I apologize for the atrocities I heartfully do Hatred is by no means the way to solve things.... But in your mouth I hear the same voice that Ceaucescu gave his pupil. Would you apologize in the name of your nation for the criminality he did?
800 years of Huns NEVER even recognizing in the Transylvanian Diet that the Romanian MAJORITY population even existed; they were only as good as their coerced labor. I lived in Romania under Ceausescu and I can tell you that there were Hungarian language newspapers, schools, churches and television shows broadcasted by the Romanian National Television itself. We shot the bastard because he was a dictator, but even in the XXI century the Romanians FROM Hungary lack these rights. Facts not words.
True not in the Transylvanian diet, but the situation is very similar to what is nowadays happening in Italy.... if it goes the same way as in the middle ages (cheap labor, and very fertile population) IN 300 YEARS ITALY WILL BE CONNECTED TO ROMANIA....
Dear Romanisipunctum, Not true: Hungarian Kings gave in western European terms "princes" -or "archdukes" (in Hungarian "Bán"-s) for the minorities including the Croatians, Slovenians, Bosnians etc. Romanian Besarab was allies with the Hungarian King having good diplomatic relations. -Thus the Romanian (Valachia) MAJORITY was indeed acknowledged.
Besarab was the one who freed the romanian (vlach) territories (by the side of the Hungarian king) from the Tatars (mongols(!)...
Not only a THIEF,you are very insecure of your ethnicity,maybe of your sex orientation as well,.I said what i had to say to you.for you to say all that you say is very easy,blah,blah,,,,Hungarians would be crazy or plain stupid to think about even stealing culture from ROMANIANS ,HAAAA<, what culture goat herding?...or insulting people in you tube,and that you do because the truth hurts,Hungarians have Culture technology to spear, many inventors in History ARE HUNGARIAN!!...
An other thing when you want to insult some one on you tube do it so every one can see what kind of sneaky slime you are Romannisipuntum,you are a coward and a THIEVE!!....coming from a nation of "thieves" even your language that sounds Latin is (STOLEN from the REAL ROMANS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.and that change of language is so ridiculous i feel sorry for all your nation that live on a big FUCKING LIE ,very sad,your nation is rotting in it's own dirty and faked History.
Fefó bátyám, én sinológiával foglalkozom,kissé nehézkes ez a téma,mondthatni homályos. homályos dolgokkal nem lehet érvelni,pláne amikor területi jogról beszélünk. ez a sumér-magyar dolog nagyon instabil.Ezek elméletek és nem tények (bár nagyon érdekes és sok hasznos dolog van bennük).
rendben, egyezzünk ki abban, hogy vannak boszniai piramisok meg vannak sumerek, és hogy lehet közünk is hozzájuk.
-viszont arra kérnélek, hogy (lehetőleg) egy távoli ázsiai pontról hozzál egy dalt, amellyel meg tudjuk győzni az imént intelligensen érvelő barátunkat :) -szép napot!
OMG. The violonist was my grandfather. I'm glad to see him again. I feel proud to be Fehér Márton's grandson :D
djmousetek 1 year ago
Fehér Márton hegedűs 2010. május 1-én visszaadta lelkét Teremtőjének.
Isten nyugosztalja!
ijaszlevi 1 year ago
Bai boule, bozgor, imputit, tu sa-mi sugi bine pula pana o sa te fut in cur.
Si-apoi te trimit in pizda curvei de unguroaica care e ma-ta si va fac pachet pentru Mongolia.
Curve de unguri, va fut toti vecinii cum vor de la Trianon incoace si inainte v-ati dat durorile ca sa suga pulele la austrieci ca sa va apere.
Va rad tot vecinii bai vita proasta!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Romanispunctum! If Mr. Sigmund Freud lived,he could analyse your problem. For a normal people you are too much.
Please turn to a pcichologist with you problem. Believe me! I want only good for you! Join to the inteligent part of the world.
Climb out from the shit where you are now!
In case of emergency when you need a hole for your tool, turn to your sheeps.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Fefefofo, you are just that: a fag who suck Gypsy dicks and gets sodomized by Turkish sailors.
Your sisters are sucking juicy Romanian dicks deep-throat until we get bored of them and send them back to Mongolia.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Listen. Who is bozgor, that you can find in
the net. search for Michelangeli Neddeo on google. Did you here about the Tatárlaka tablets? Tordos-Vinca? And the piramids in Bosnia?
The stupid ones like you also can see somthing If you now a minimum about the magyar-székely rovás.
You are the prototype of the primitiv romanians.
Of course, mamy of them are intelligent, but not you are is that,.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Suck
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Some of our neigbours would be very very surpriced, who borrowed from whom more. According to Béla Bartók the hungarians lended far much more, then borrowed from his neighbours. Aspecially this is true for the music. According to his research this tune is one of the most ancient hungarian tune. Very close relation with the mourning for dead.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
According to Béla Bartók this tune - can be found everywhere where hungarians live - is one of the most ancient hungarian tune,
Let's argue with him!.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Dear All!
I would like to pay attantion for our romanian friends, that this tune played by Márton Fehér is one of the most ancient Hungarian tune. You can record it or its variations in every region where hungarians live (even near Austria) In many places the tune used as verbunkmusik. That is true that the csángó instrumental music has a huge effect of the romanian traditional music, but NOT THIS TUNE!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Úgyhogy a politikát félretéve, szerintem nagyon jól játszanak, meg nekem külön tetszik, hogy a koboz is jól hallatszik a felvételen. Ha valaki tud vmit a zenészekről akkor ossza meg velünk legyen szíves! Köszi
ijaszlevi 2 years ago
That is so true!...
Viczable 2 years ago
Istenem miért kell ennek a sok románnak belepofázni mindenbe. Írjátok, hogy jó vagy rossz és kész, de a népzenéből ne csináljunk már dák-román elméletet! Köszi
ijaszlevi 2 years ago
a nu se intelege ca m,ai e dezlegat...doar am tastat gresit...scuze ;)
nicu62chiriac 2 years ago
astia/s tigani care canta cu instrumentele si canta melodii pe care le invata de la ungurii care trec pe la racaciuni sau cleja(somusca)... mi se pare ok..fac si lautarii cate un banut fara sa stie ca nu fac chiar un serviciu comunitatii... dar ce m,ai conteaza! oamenii trebuie "sa mananca si ei"!
nicu62chiriac 2 years ago
Very nice!
Traditional Romania!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
:)
Traditional csángó music.
And csángó people are speaking hungarian.
AR06ULTRAS 2 years ago
I speak English.
I'm still Romanian.
Same for theCiangai.
But Paun Vasile is Romanian 100%.
I know him!
So far with hungarian megalomania.
Go fish by lake Balaton.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
you have right /
biokosmy 2 years ago
I'm hungarian.
And Fejér Márton the violin player is hungarian Csángó 100%
so it needless discuss about hwo is the hungarian or romanian, like the musicians they play thogether and don't worry about
zsabfe 2 years ago
He plays ROMANIAN music.
Huns MAGYARIZED forcefully Romanian ethnics by imposing Hun names to Romanian, Slovak, Serb et al. ethnics.
The Ceangai are Romanian ethnics with Hun names. And in this case, they play ROMANIAN music. And they are IN ROMANIA.
All the Huns have here is stupidity and arrogance.
Come to think of it this is what Huns have period.
The rest are Hun lies.
Now, if they returned to Pappa Attila the Hun(garian)'s country, in Mongolia, Asia, THERE they might have some claim.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
I think your opinion is not right. And if you say csangos are rumanian you don't know anything about csangos. And you have to think about why are they chatolics and speaking a kind of hungarian language. the folksongs are also similar other folksongs in hungary etc..
you have to THINk about, and You would have been more clever If you haven't written this shit
zsabfe 2 years ago
Let's start educating you on two things: Romanian is written with capital "R" ; and "o".
This is Romanian music from Romania.
It's a pretty simple concept.
All the deformed Hungarian propaganda is just that : propaganda and deformed.
I can start making up stories about HUNgary, but I recognize this is the country of Attila the Hun(garian)'s descendants.
I have better things to do than falsify my neighboors' history.But I'm NOT taking any of this Hungarian crap about Romania's 'hun' culture.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
nebun.......
zsabfe 2 years ago
Asa esti cum zici, vecine...
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Blah,blah, blah, you talk to much but don't say anything constructive.800 hundred year ago there were no Romanians in northern Transylvania,don't make your selves the victims here,you are the ones exterminating the Hungarians,not even forcing Romanization of Hungarians,In Hungary there are some ethnic Romanians in Mehkerek Hungary, and they have there Romanian heritage,and no one DOES DESTROY IT,they live in peace...Learn your History,you need it...
Viczable 2 years ago
First of all, I don't want to quarrel, but it's highly recommended for Romanisipunctum and Biokosmy, to read and learn universal history again. I'm not "national emotional", and I know what I'm talkin about.
Anyway, the music is beatiful, I love from the age of 5 ^^
All the best!
Ody87 2 years ago
Why don't you read Ducso Csaba "No Mercy" fascist book, used as a Bible by your Hortyst compatriots to "kill even the Romanian babies from their mother's breasts" (which Huns DID as early as 1939-1944) until the Romanians liberated N. Transylvania?
Or about the800 years of "Transylvanian Diet" where the Romanian MAJORITY was NOT EVEN RECOGNIZED as a NATION by the Hungarian colonists, let alone to allowfor their reppresentation.
Or about FORCED Magyarization of Romanians, INCLUDING the Ceangai?
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Listen..I would like to know what part of wrong you don't understand.The Hungarians are the real victims,you (Romanians) made this history up( fake it) that's what they teach you in Romania,a ferry tail history far from the truth.sneaky liar...
Viczable 2 years ago
Thieves! There is a reason why all your neighbors hate you and that's despite the Hungarian women who suck dick gladly upon request: and that's because you are thieves. You were thieves of land ever since you came from Mongolia under Attila the Hun(garian) and you remain thieves of customs, costumes and music.
Not your fault: it's part of your inglorious genetic make-up, like the cock-roaches'.
But don't ask us, particularly the Romanians to sit idle while you are stealing our art. Bozgors.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
You are ( WRONG),.This tune is very Hungarian,has been Hungarian and will be Hungarian, if you don't have to say anything constructive,,then SHUT UP!!...
Viczable 2 years ago
Hungarians are not native to this part of Europe,so what they've got on cultural level is borrowed from local slovenians,slovacks or serbs.If you have some kind of throat singing that's totaly yours.The csangos are only 1234 and their number is droping
sorin1918 2 years ago
if their not native of Europe,then you are from Asia manor,you'll be surprised who borrowed from who.
Viczable 2 years ago
Go to Siberia and learn the culture of the mansi&khanty and you will find out your true cultural background; but to make it all clear,it's not a shame to acknowledge a lesser descendence ..after all,you can't all be sumerians or etruscans like that crazy ass dreamer Domokos thinks :)))))
sorin1918 2 years ago
You know, the hungarians new writing 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago, 3000 years ago, and thanks for the newest archeological results in Bostnia, probably -- and now listen!!! --- 10.000 years ago.
The ancestor of the hungarian writing is a sumer writing and its ancestor the charpatian basin writing older then 4200 years.
Do you know where were that time the indo-europeans?
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Probably humping the hell out of a toothless ugrian lady
sorin1918 2 years ago
Fefeleago,wake up dear!
sorin1918 2 years ago
We are lucky....This is told not by the hungarians, but more and more scientists, and historians of the world....
In some year everywhere in the world they will teach that the writing started from the carpatian basin, and went to mezopotamia....And the hungarian runes, the Székely-magyar-hun rovás, inheritated from there....
This writing was used 100 years ago still...But of course was told a barbaric writing and was not allowed..
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Mr Fefe ,your own history is clear enough,you are not ancient people here..your history barely surpasses 1100 year in this region.Those rovas are a mix of letters borrowed from everybody,no link to sumerians..I even doubt they are hungarian to begin with
sorin1918 2 years ago
Dear! The Hun empire was a multicultural empire. This is now clean after founding many many towns in the Tarim basin and north of them in russia.
On group of them were the hungarians.
And the Hun and our runic is fit.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
When they found the sumer towns the english archeologics asket the hungrian acadimy to send lingustics there because the found runes were very similar to the hungarian ones.
The hungarian academy under the fals theory of finno-ugor did not send anybody there
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
They would probably ask some turks to come since there's more turkish lexical similarity..hungarians are good at marketing the ideea only counting Rossler and his gang
sorin1918 2 years ago
Alma - Elma- apple
Atya - Ata - Father
meny from the middle asia turk
But you also have!!!!
Paszuly - Faszulye ---
bonen in eűnglish!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Words travel from one culture to another and sumerian being the first influenced everybody ..maybe you took those words from turks in the Volga region
sorin1918 2 years ago
Yes you are absolute right this case. This is called the interaction of the cultures.
In the romanian lenguage also there are many words from the slaves.
First effect to the dac lenguage were the roman, but you have so called newlatin also.
and about 2% hungarian.
In the hungarian lenguage spoken in Transivania there are more then 1000. And the romanian words in the hungarian spoken everywjhere are less then 20.
most of them are related to the job of the ciobans. Like furulya, fluier.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
the sumerian lenguage was found out using our runes.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
no,sumerian is redescovered using ancient clay tablets writen in akkadian(semitic) and sumerian..your rovas are 32%etruscan,13%semitic,43%turk and so on
sorin1918 2 years ago
that is the fun!!!
Notice!
The hungarian rovás is in relation with everyone showing the root!
And it is perfect to write down our lenguage!!! 100% the latin not.
And as I told you ! The chronological order is very important. When they found the first turk runes?
The first hun runes?:
The first semitic?
The first sumer?
You have to notice the evolution!!!
Ászoktető. Sorry , I do not know the romanian name!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
History is a hobby of mine and your rovas are barely medieval..first who mentiones them was Anonymus,right? the older runes are not linked with nobody cause they are not desciphered yet..could be dacians,pechenegs or even glagolitic slavic
sorin1918 2 years ago
that is why the theory of Naddeo from 1998 is very important. He has pur everything in chronological order!!!
What , where when were found by the archeologists.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
You do not know wellt
The huns have writing. 95% of the runes are equal to our ones.
Some years ago in Russia north from The tarim many kurgans were found.
In on Tomb more then - listen !!!!. 9300 gold objects were found.
more then at Tutan-kha-mon!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Tarim basin was inhabited a long period by tocharian A and B ,that is IE people .Kurgan culture is specific to IE
sorin1918 2 years ago
They found runic writing also,
95% equal to our ones.
And some years ago they found a big city even biggen then Mundhen was in the middle ages!!!
A munlticultural city!!!!
Very improtant!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Very improtant the multiculturality!
Look at what Szent Istvan teached to his son Imre!!!!!!
One lenguage country is a week coutry. More lenguage coutry is a strong country!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
It was a good policy to atract german builders and investors,even in those days..but what about now? hungarian or nothing else,right? Thats why 200.000 romanians,who know how many slovak,serb and germans have been assimilated..no more haven there
sorin1918 2 years ago
And look the hungrian history!!!
We invited the Saxons, the Kuns,,,, as we know the ROMANIANs!!! We donot accept the your continuity bacause there is not proves.
The hungarian were host in the history.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The fact is ..romans erected towns in Transylvania that still has a large latin based people even today..where is the the mistery about continuity here?we are still here,my fathers side is close to Someș
sorin1918 2 years ago
Hosts in other peoples land
sorin1918 2 years ago
@MrFefefofo like golden horde?
ionicajder 1 year ago
As I told you can be the Kauka is pre sumerina word....
Can be
I do not state anything.
And this word could go to other lenguage,
On is sure In sumer Kau-ka means montain.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Carpathians were called by ancient greeks Caucasus..i think Herodot,but I could be mistaken.Nană is romanian for aunt and sumerian means moon godes and the list is biger
sorin1918 2 years ago
very good!
Tati ....Look after the origin of that word in your lenguage!!!
Cauca can be also from turkey.
but certanly not romanian origin!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
atta is also the same in gothic,cauca is native here-there was a caucoenses tribe and Caucaland of the goths in Romania-so I doubt there were turks here before 400
sorin1918 2 years ago
cuca and căciulă are considered dacian words meaning the same thing..head dress-from this came coconi meaning nobels(becuase of the specific head dress)
sorin1918 2 years ago
ciuc is coming from the hungarian Csik!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Look! I am tired now. But he Greeks had also some runic from this cantral culture.
Ask them who was the father of the skythians!!!
Hargita!!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
skytians were iranic and they are still present in Caucasus ,the ossetians..lets ask them :))
sorin1918 2 years ago
there is no contradiction if the greeks calle it caucazus.....not at all!!!
no contradiction at all!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
tomorrow I will read your rest.
For me the truth is more important then to prove who were where soonner then the other.
It is absurd today.
I lieve in Holland, here it is not a question.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Until this time it was known on the word that the writing was found by the sumer...
Until the tatarlaka tablets were found, the vinca tablets were found.
And follow!!!
The bosnian piramid were found
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
On the tatárlaka korong there are 4 runes onto to one fit with ours.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
when Vlassa found that that time told it was brought from mezopotami to transilvania.
And later turned out it is more then 2000 years older then the first sumer text.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I know the stories mr.Fefe,but there was no hungarians mentioned in any case..only neolithic people has some rights,and they are sooooo upset you are stilling from them :))
sorin1918 2 years ago
I ask you to write to my adress direcly because here the length is limited.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
compare the etrusk writing with the hungarian one....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
32% similarity,soo what?
sorin1918 2 years ago
yes. becuse the writing started to the carpatian basin. that time this was closer together.
But the Etrusks were destroyed by the indo-european romans.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I still don't see why hungarians were so important here! Untill now,it's sure that a latin based language is still the dominant factor untill now..romanian if you had any doubt .Hungarians have some cusins up north,nothing else
sorin1918 2 years ago
Yes that is true. All the europeans are member of the indo-european lenguage family. only hungarians not.
But the hungarians as the huns the skythyans and the uyghurs are not asians!!!
That is told and more and more proves are near it, that this people left europe ca 4200 years ago.when the indo-europeans arrived.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
finno-ugrians never left,but were pushed aside to the corners of northern Europe
sorin1918 2 years ago
They were very closed with the skythian-hun empire
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
And went to mezopotamia and to Tarim basin. Bringing the writing with themselves.!
And the hungrians still used it 100 years ago
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
and thats why the hungarian runic is similar to all runic writing, because its ancestor is the oldest writing. And the other ones, like the chinise was based on the hun. This is proven by chinise scientists.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Have you counted how many generationes past between sumerians and your rovas?Chinese characters are totaly different
sorin1918 2 years ago
The chinise writing originated to the hun.
This is the official chinise state.
Some simbol, for example the earth is equal. Compare the hungarian f letter (föld=ground. earth) the the chinise earth simbol....
End there is a so called contracted runes!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
the contracted runes means in one position they write two or more letters.
the chinise evaulated this way. Finally complet sentences are in one run.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Once more. The chinese state it their writing is originated to the huns.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
huns were savage and totaly unaware of writen culture..do you think the chinese wall was an easy obstacle?
sorin1918 2 years ago
where this writing went everywhere left his effect.
And it came back with the huns, and avars, and magyars to the carpatian basin
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
some minutes ago,you said they were native to this region,now you say they arrived after 400 DH
sorin1918 2 years ago
wait a minute!!!
When the indo-european invasion happened ca 4000 years ago the old civilistion - of course one part of it only -
Left europe. One part of them went to mezopotamia bringing the bronz and writing and probably the wheel from here.
Other part parallel or and later to the Tarim Basin
The chronological order is very very important!!! What from what time wasfound by the archeiologists. And there is a clearn route....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The huns were diveded by the chinese to two part . western and eastern. The western part with Attila came back to the present hungary. Later the avars and the hungarians - magyars. They were very closed realation with Attila.Even the Árpád house in straight line.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
All medieval lords invented ancient ancestry,don't believe everything you read!
sorin1918 2 years ago
that is true. But does not say it is not true.
And this was strongly in the hungarian tradition.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Dear!
This is not my opinion.
I translate the newest results and som scientists opinion.
It is important. I do not say this is true.
But it is a puzzle!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The world in sumr Kau-ka means mountain....
In transilvania near Torocko in Alba country there is Székely-kő
Kau-ka-------Kaukazus....
Irottkő, Dobogókő, Tarkő....the name of hungarian hills. also in transilvania.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
caucă is a hill in romanian,ciuc is hill top,cucă boierească is a head dress,so what?tată and tati meaning father is similar to hittite words but I don't claim absurd theories to sooth my ego.Hungarians have nothing to do with sumerians
sorin1918 2 years ago
listen. Tordos where the clay tablets were found can be undestand by the sumer lenguage.
Szamos-Somes means flood!
Napoca - Nap means sun. In hungarian we have one word for the sun and day: NAP
As the sumers have.
In transilvania there are some place could be originated even to the pre sumer lenguage.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Someș means high and is IE for sure,not romanian or hungarian..here is a joke magyar in romanian sounds similar to magar(donkey)-have you ever heard a romanian claiming your ancestry to a romanian word just because sounds the same?
sorin1918 2 years ago
So the kő has and other meaning in the past. meaning mountain...
Nowoadays means stone only....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
and how many similarity do you have?
had the dacs - also indo europeans - writing? nothing.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Theu were using wireless technology,no need for rude carving
sorin1918 2 years ago
hehehe
they started to make the rune characterset!!!!
You can find on the net!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
That is true!!!
But the indoeuropeans are also not.
So why to search who was here before?
But just for the scientic knowledge!
The indo-europeans also not nativ here, becazse they came here ca 4000 years ago killing the old neolitic civilisation here.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I strongly suggest you to watch in youtube Michelangelo Naddeo's theory
You find it in 7 chaper. I was made in 1998
That time the bosnian piramids, and the Hun towns were not discovered in the Tarim
Also the Mummies were foud there some years ago.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
That mound in Bosnia is by no way a pyramid and if you remember..those mummies are european ,tartan fabric and neolithic tatoose, part of the IE culture
sorin1918 2 years ago
if you ask I give som link about the piramids in bosnia.
4 years ago when they reported nobady believed it!!!!
No more then 4000 people are working in summer there with the archeologists!!!
It is piramid. can be that 30-000 years old
And ......there are many runs.....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Again I tell you,languages are permisive to all kinds of influences.If you were able to read sumerian using only your hungarian knowledge,i would be the first to reckon my defeat.
sorin1918 2 years ago
searc:
tartaria tablets
tordos-vinca.
bosnian piramids...
Sumer runes.
hun runes
You are blind dear if you can not see the connections.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
on youtube:
the origin of the hungarians
Michelangelo Naddeo's theory...
More and more scientist are sharing his idea.
Dear our writing can be driven back even more then 10000 years.
thanks for the newest archeological results
It was found in the bosnian piramids too!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The Tomb of the skythian prince....
on youtube.
18 runes are equal from 22 with the székely rovás!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The hungarians could write even when the romanians counted the sheeps on their fingers!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
If you like I send you some links....
And you can make your theory yourself.
But do not tell me, that the runes found in tordos-vinca or bosnia are similar with the dac folklor motivs because I will die of laughing!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
They are neolitic symbols and passed through the generationes..what is amusing to you has no importance
sorin1918 2 years ago
really?
you say that,
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
The Csangos are 1234 thanks to you extremist that try to exterminate them in any way possible."JUSTICE FOR THE HUNGARIANS
" outside of Hungary!!!....
Viczable 2 years ago
This Csangos ..(oh sorry,i mean half-breads,isn't that the corect translation?) are a minority that fled from Transylvania some 200 years ago in Moldova and the fact that there is still 1000 speakers of the old dialect is a prove that nobody tried to exterminate them..yet :))
sorin1918 2 years ago
Just like you, you are Arians now wow,(PURE ROMANIAN RACE)...Ha,ha,ha,ha,you are 50% Gipsie,25% Vlach and 25% liar. Very sneaky,like a delinquent
Viczable 2 years ago
:))) spoken like a true nomad!
sorin1918 2 years ago
I rather be a "nomad" than a History faker, goat lover liar...
Viczable 2 years ago
Shall I give you a list of romanian books abou the csángos?
Written by romanian academics....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
There are 3 main groups of them
North- Szabófalva-Sabaoan... they were there in the 13. century...
The 3-rd group is the székely-csángó went to moldva after 1764 Mádéfalvi veszedelem...
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
in the XIV-th century they asked from the Vatican hungarian pastors....
It is documented. But the roman catholic church would like to have a big mass of romanian speaking chatolics, that"s why the assist to their asimilation!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I know, so what? From my opinion,less is better;don't you agree?
sorin1918 2 years ago
don't you think that every cultur makes the human cultur more nice?
Do you think if on the globe everybody talk romanian then it will be better?
Not Sir! Definite not!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
You are so much in to this ethnocentric view that it clouds your objectivity..
sorin1918 2 years ago
you know it is very strange....
The dacs were asimilating to the romans in 178 years... But there were not schools that time.
And why did not the csangos asimilated back in 800 years to the romanian environment?
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Your csangos are dieing out and they were not many to begin with..as for the dacians..who cares any more?
sorin1918 2 years ago
But I tell you a wrong news.... Probably in a short time they have hungarian lenguage miss in the churches!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
News flash: they already have..but I think they are singing only recviems now :)))
sorin1918 2 years ago
Look!
Many of them have been asimilated.
But the rest have good and better and better connection with us...
Do not forget! We live in the EU- the border is not closed anymore.
And we can invite them we can visit them
That was not allowed during Ceausescu.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
By the way.... you national heroe Ceausescu has turkey origin name...
eejejejeje....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Why not sumerian? I think I can find something that will be similar to a sumerian word.:))
sorin1918 2 years ago
it is not so simple story...
can be explained here with some worlds
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Do You Know the meaning of the word "csángó" (ceangai) is?
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
Ceangai are Hungarianized Romanians in the over 800 years of Hungarian occupation.
You may be of no fault in my distrust of Huns, but unless there is a serious apology of the Austrians and Hungarians for all the atrocities they committed throughout the 800 years of occupation of Romanians, Serbs and Slovaks, there is really no point in talking about reconcilliation.
But you can see yourself in your own country and with your own people how racism still reigns free.
Do you understand now?
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
No archelological prove the presence of slavs, serbs, vlachs from the IV centory to the 12. century.
Nothing have been found!!!
Nothing. Can you understand???!!!
NOTHING!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
my long Romanian
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
I apologize for the atrocities I heartfully do Hatred is by no means the way to solve things.... But in your mouth I hear the same voice that Ceaucescu gave his pupil. Would you apologize in the name of your nation for the criminality he did?
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
800 years of Huns NEVER even recognizing in the Transylvanian Diet that the Romanian MAJORITY population even existed; they were only as good as their coerced labor. I lived in Romania under Ceausescu and I can tell you that there were Hungarian language newspapers, schools, churches and television shows broadcasted by the Romanian National Television itself. We shot the bastard because he was a dictator, but even in the XXI century the Romanians FROM Hungary lack these rights. Facts not words.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
True not in the Transylvanian diet, but the situation is very similar to what is nowadays happening in Italy.... if it goes the same way as in the middle ages (cheap labor, and very fertile population) IN 300 YEARS ITALY WILL BE CONNECTED TO ROMANIA....
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
not mentioning the strawberry pickers, in Spain....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Dear Romanisipunctum, Not true: Hungarian Kings gave in western European terms "princes" -or "archdukes" (in Hungarian "Bán"-s) for the minorities including the Croatians, Slovenians, Bosnians etc. Romanian Besarab was allies with the Hungarian King having good diplomatic relations. -Thus the Romanian (Valachia) MAJORITY was indeed acknowledged.
Besarab was the one who freed the romanian (vlach) territories (by the side of the Hungarian king) from the Tatars (mongols(!)...
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
100 years ago in Transylvania there were more romanian lenguage schools the everywhere in the word together!!!
Even in Romania the half of the people were analfabet.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Not only a THIEF,you are very insecure of your ethnicity,maybe of your sex orientation as well,.I said what i had to say to you.for you to say all that you say is very easy,blah,blah,,,,Hungarians would be crazy or plain stupid to think about even stealing culture from ROMANIANS ,HAAAA<, what culture goat herding?...or insulting people in you tube,and that you do because the truth hurts,Hungarians have Culture technology to spear, many inventors in History ARE HUNGARIAN!!...
Viczable 2 years ago
Go back to Mongolia and suck a yak's dick Hun!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Go back to Albania.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
An other thing when you want to insult some one on you tube do it so every one can see what kind of sneaky slime you are Romannisipuntum,you are a coward and a THIEVE!!....coming from a nation of "thieves" even your language that sounds Latin is (STOLEN from the REAL ROMANS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.and that change of language is so ridiculous i feel sorry for all your nation that live on a big FUCKING LIE ,very sad,your nation is rotting in it's own dirty and faked History.
Viczable 2 years ago
Leave your sister here, I'll send her back to your yurt after I'm bored with her sucking me my dick, and my fucking her pussy and ass.
Your ugly whore of a mother is fucking Turkish sailors.
I don't think you'll see her again.
Oh well, you have your Gypsy neighbors from India to keep you company and sodomize your ass Hun.
Happy Gypsy dick sucking bozgor!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
You are representing the roman intelligent, aren't you?
I know that is very hard to be gentleman for many people, but please try!
You can do it!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
You are welcome to suck my Romanian intelligent dick!
Make it deep-throat after I fuck your Hun(garian) sister's pussy and ass.
You are both welcome.
Then you can go back to Mongolia bozgors!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Romasnisipunctum!
I start my day to show the roman inteligency to my dutch collegues.
Now I now why you are called by the hungarians bocskoros olah.
I see it is very hard for you to be genteman....
Have a nice day!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Start you day with sucking my Romanian dick!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
The truth is somtimes aching, isn't it?
Myaligator will suck it! Enjoy it!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
You can only open your mouth to suck my Romanian dick, Hun.
But first I have to finish fucking your sister, bozgor.
Wait in line.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
You know! My aligator is ready....
Perhaps your mother also.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
I knoow what a cock sucking family you are: both your sister and you.
My Romanian dick was sucked and licked and swallowed and pampered by both of your Hungarian mouths.
You are good at that but not at talking.
Go back to giving deep-throat, and be silent bozgor!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
1. we are not mongols.
2. you are a retard
3. I know Romanians aren't as ignorant as you, I have many Romanian friends.
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
Of course you are Mongols; that's were your pappa Attila the Hun(garian) came.
Retard is your Hun mother for having such a syphillitic son as you.
You don't know shit about Romanians; but you do like eat our shit Gypsy Hun.
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Read 4000 years old chinise chronicles, and you will know about the skita-hun empire something.
There were ancient europeans. Listen!
The Sumer lenguage were solved by using the székely-magyar rovás!!!!
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
dick, bozgor!
Then you can ride, while fucking your mother's ass, back to Mongolia, where you people came from!
Romanisipunctum 2 years ago
Fefó bátyám, én sinológiával foglalkozom,kissé nehézkes ez a téma,mondthatni homályos. homályos dolgokkal nem lehet érvelni,pláne amikor területi jogról beszélünk. ez a sumér-magyar dolog nagyon instabil.Ezek elméletek és nem tények (bár nagyon érdekes és sok hasznos dolog van bennük).
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
én abszolut nem vagyok szakértő ebben a témában, de a zenében igen. Amit korábban irtam erről a dallamról az tény.
Az utobbi időben sokat böngésztem a neten. A vak is látja hogy itt van egy vezérvonal. Keresőszavak a netenés itt.
tartaria tablet, tordos-vinca. Boszniai piramisok. Michelangelo naddeo, stb.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Egyébként meg távol áll tőlem mindenféle területi kérdés...
Ami viszont nem, mert én meg népzenegyújtéssel foglalkozom, az itt hallható dallam.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
tudod, amikor feltárják a sumér városokat, az angolok magyar nyelvészeket kének az MTA-tól.....
mert, hát az irás,,, ugye...
Az MTA meg baszik küldeni, mondván, hogy pancserek....
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
rendben, egyezzünk ki abban, hogy vannak boszniai piramisok meg vannak sumerek, és hogy lehet közünk is hozzájuk.
-viszont arra kérnélek, hogy (lehetőleg) egy távoli ázsiai pontról hozzál egy dalt, amellyel meg tudjuk győzni az imént intelligensen érvelő barátunkat :) -szép napot!
gainweighttoday 2 years ago
Végre egy klassz kérdés....ha megadodod cimedet hosszabban kifejtem....
Beli-buba, beli beli, kezdetű altato....
Na mit jelent????
Nemrégen a zenetudományi intézetben énekelt egy uygur leány....Tudja mit jelent.....
Andandénusz, szórajkaténusz.... mondóka....Sumérül érhető! Ismered?
Hej Dunárul fuj a szél....(egy az egyben uyguroknál)
Bartók nem véletlenül gyűjtött a törököknél...
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MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Kár az erőlködésért., mert ő egy dákó!!!
Sose győzöd meg öket. Csak ne higyje, hogy mindenki beveszi a baromságaikat.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
Nemrég talát szkita-hun sir az oroszoknál... többezer aranytárgy!!!!
22 betűből 18 egy az egyben magyar rovás...
igaz ez nem zene.
MrFefefofo 2 years ago
This is relly good
CandyLaydee 3 years ago