Bruckner - Symphony no. 8 - IV (2/4) Haitink & Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra

[Sylderon]

Anybody know what the tubist was doing with his left hand at 7:07? Is there some sort of tuning slide, like on a trumpet? *is a percussionist, and doesn't quite know all of these things*

[tubatrek]

@Sylderon He is manipulating his valve tuning slides..perhaps the 3rd valve slide. Many professional tubists do this to fine tune notes while playing. No brass instrument is perfectly in tune and many better players are constantly pushing / pulling the slides to get the "perfect" length of tubing for that note. Witness trumpet players kicking out thier 1st and 2nd valve slides while they play. Tubists most often manipulate the 1st valve tuning slide while playing.

[dajohnthomas69]

I can listen to this a dozen times and I will have the same awe all those times. This precurs so much. Unbelievable.

[Sylderon]

@dajohnthomas69 I have to agree. The chord at 7:24 always makes me shiver...I guess it's the orchestration more than anything. Bruckner was an organist, and sometimes seems to treat the orchestra like a collection of stops, pulling out and pushing in to get the right balance of tone color.

[dajohnthomas69]

@Sylderon don't forget a wagnerian influence (till certain extent), late schubertian symphonies, the use of tutti of the instrumental groups and use of sonics and dynamics in great detail. That whole passage with the 7.24 chord is so powerful

[dajohnthomas69]

The hall of the Concertgebouw is indeed an amendment to the sound, but you have to know how to play in it. Besides, the orchestra also plays other halls, to equal acclaim...

[usnhorn]

What a great orchestra! That sound is unmatched.

[b286guy]

The hall helps.

[grabit1]

@b286guy

Yes, it does. A hall that I must visit before I die.

But it's not like the old Yankee stadium where Babe Ruth only had a 296 foot rightfield fence (no offense if you're a Yankee fan).

We usually don't have cathedrals for ourselves. When they happen, I'll take them, and accept others into them. I hope you do, too. And the Concertgebouw is the most deserving. Have you been there? I'm finally going next year.