I am thinking you send multiple plugs up at a time and the bottom plug acts as the seal for the plug above it. I have puzzled over how to use pressure and gravity gradients to produce power before and this video gave me a lot of food for thought , thank you.
a good idea would be to somehow inject the object into a closed cylinder, thus creating extra volume, which would make the water rise, then the level could be stay constant after the object is removed at the top..
floatation is diplacement minus weight of object, 100 litre drum displaces 100 litres of water, and we all know 1 litre is = 1kg therefore it will hold up a wieght of just under 100 kg, the Area of water has to be replaced once the object is removed whether you like it or not mutiple valves won't fix this because when the object enters the pipe some water is pushed out/ displaced to make way for the object
If you keep closing the valve (gate) below the floating object and letting the water boye it to raise it to the next valve (gate)... Isn't that just the same as a lock on a ship channel. in your example, the first section is the only one where a vacuum is holding the water in the tube. above that the closed valve below is holding it there. If the first valve were below water level in the bottom tank, the same thing would happen with NO VACUUM at all.
How is it that you have all the free time to do these experiments? I must know!! I want infinite free time and lots of value with which to experiment.
Awesome, Dan! Not only is it interesting, but the section after the GPS Extras, in slowmotion is awesomely beautiful, the music, the shots, the takes, wow, just awesome! You rock! :)
Each time an object is floated to the top a volume of water is displaced. What is not being considered here is the energy needed to lift the volume of displaced water for the subsequent lifts.
You might only go with a water rim pump ( or how they are called ??) , the ones, that pump water up with strokes with air inside the hoses too.... These have very good efficiencies and might violate the hydrostatic paradoxon... look for these pump videos here on youtube. But do you have enough energy to drive such a pump from the falling mass ? Maybe when you build it pretty big... You have to somehow get the water replaced in the top of the tube ! So you have to bring up the water to the top !
Well the normal theory is that the object displaces as much water as its size is. So the water then goes out of the tube into the bassin.
Now if you get the object out of the top you have to replace the water with less energy into the tube...which is hard to do.. otherwise after a few cycles all your water will be gone out of the tube...As the hydrostatic paradoxon will cause you problems also small colums of water can not be pushed up to the top with less energy ! Regards, Stefan.
Seems to me the power you get or energy stored to make that work would be on the assumption that floating is a speed enough. Water will not destroy what you got coming up. The cleanliness of the water, and the pressure and weight of your system. I think they did this with a air jet and tubes for a final project.
The only problem i see is where does water become better then a vacuum and flush of air. unless your underground but even then the air should work better. But great idea amigo
You need more energy to raise the column of water, than to directly lift the object using cables. Also the construction of the tube will cost a great deal more than a cable of twice the length.
(Continued from my last post) So in other words the water needed to replace the water displaced by the object floated will have to be supplied to the top of the 'water lift' & to do this will require more energy than that used to lift the object in the first place. E.G ‘water lift' floats a 100kg object to the top. But ofc this object must be lighter then the water it displaces. So say it displaces 120kgs of water. This means u will need to find 120kg of water to replace the water displaced.
This will not produce more energy then u will have to put in, but it might be an efficient way of lifting things. The problem using the valve method is once the object floats to the top you close a valve below it.(To stop the water flowing back down when you open the top to access the object). Then once you have taken the object out it will have displaced a certain amount of water (which will be replaced by air). Meaning you will need to fill that ‘air gap’ up with water before u close the valve
As I said to Teddy Roosevelt in 1903, "Ted your going to need a lot of glass".
He replied, "Yes my lord and saviour, you are right, in fact you are always right, in fact it's never been known for you to be wrong. But perhaps when you return to your time machine and travel the universe, would you be kind enough to bring me back a machine that can make giant glass tubes to fit the ships in?"
I said, "Sorry Ted - it would upset the evolution of technology".
As soon as you said, "Screw" and "Nuts" - and stood there holding that magnificent shaft in your hand, I thought - "Please remake this video dressed in ladies clothing".
However, it is to bad that we can´t get perpetual motion from this, because when the nut has floated all the way to the top, it has displaced water with the potential energy of 10 meters when it is there. And thus, it lifts a nut, by pushing down an equal amount of water.
I can not understand :) how many people din not got the idea from this video.
Interesting idea Dan I do not see an application right now but I'm sure there must be some. I much better than using Hydrogen or Helium balloons to lift stuff since the difference in density from water to air is much bigger.
@electrodacus I'm a bit stupid there is the water you displace from the tube when you insert the object and when you take the object out you need to add water so no fun it took me almost 5 minute to figure this out.
Ah ha! The effort you put into drawing the water into the tube, or standing the tube full of water upright is waaaaay more than it would take to just lift the little float with a block and tackle system. It's a neat idea, but conservation of energy is a real pain when you try to put ideas like this into practical use.
That's very cool Dan! Did you just figure this out recently, or did you just get shown this when you were a kid? Anyway it's cool. Thanks for sharing man!
U can go 9,8 Meters up after that u will start pulling a vacuum.U try, take a hose on the end of that tube there and lift it over 9,8 and show us what happens :)
Oh, yes, we are enjoying the dynamics of water and the high speed recording of your camera :D besides all that, many things can be achieved using this principle :D
This is a cool proof of concept, Dan. But once you release the water lock it will need to be air vacuumed out wouldn't it? Otherwise atmospheric pressure won't be able to clear the water out from the top. Either way it seems as if the overall energy needed would be a lot less than, for example, using a vacuum to lift objects on their own.
@joshcryer Lock on top about 80% up. Lock on bottom opened w/top closed, object raises to bottom of top lock, bottom closed then top opened. Object floats above the top valve. Close top open bottom start all over.
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Ahh, gotcha, that should work nicely. Look forward to seeing you get some extremely low energy work with this idea! Wonder if there are any other books on the technique... going to dig now...
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE : GEEZ! I can't believe it! This actually does seem to potentially be a machine that could CREATE WORK! (The work I'm thinking of, is that you could perpetually "drop" the objects back down to water level, and turn the falling acceleration into work.
The only way to DISPROVE this, would be to show that moving the valves would HAVE TO use as much or more energy than you could get out--but I can't see how it would HAVE TO.
Now Dan, find something that will keep corrupt banksters and governments at the bottom of the water forever. Then you'd have yourself something there than would make you a rich man. :)
we might see elevators in dubai workin with that concept soon :)
bdatgood 3 weeks ago
I am thinking you send multiple plugs up at a time and the bottom plug acts as the seal for the plug above it. I have puzzled over how to use pressure and gravity gradients to produce power before and this video gave me a lot of food for thought , thank you.
tmcdon4ld 3 months ago
Nice music at the end :D
TheLonelyImmortal 6 months ago
Great video, gona show this trick to my niece :)
Response166 7 months ago
First I think elevator, then... space elevator!!!
fasterfind 7 months ago
Dan what happened with this experiment?
basilenglish 8 months ago
best channel on youtube!
yooyoomine 8 months ago
a good idea would be to somehow inject the object into a closed cylinder, thus creating extra volume, which would make the water rise, then the level could be stay constant after the object is removed at the top..
basilenglish 8 months ago
We are now waiting to the video with valves attached, how long before you will do that one?
basilenglish 8 months ago
but u wasted energy on lifting a 15 kilo pipe full of water just to lift something that weighs a few grams! ? lol
bent540 8 months ago
This HD airsoft video of Island Recon is decent! /watch?v=B3SObOvZVbc&feature=channel_video_title Thumbs up people if you think its good! <3<3
PatxoAirsoft 8 months ago
What kind of camera are you using dan? great vid as always.
ColllldSteeeel 8 months ago
Thank you for your video. That is really interesting. I guess the advantage is that,
though you lift the tube of water only once, many items could be transported
simply by adding whatever water was lost at the "unlocking and re-locking".
I really love the GPS extra. The music and slo-mo gives me a chance to
reflect on practically anything...very welcome opportunity ! The simplicity
of the world around us really is very stimulating when we are given the
chance to observe it as very special.
chonesong 8 months ago
floatation is diplacement minus weight of object, 100 litre drum displaces 100 litres of water, and we all know 1 litre is = 1kg therefore it will hold up a wieght of just under 100 kg, the Area of water has to be replaced once the object is removed whether you like it or not mutiple valves won't fix this because when the object enters the pipe some water is pushed out/ displaced to make way for the object
basilenglish 8 months ago
If you keep closing the valve (gate) below the floating object and letting the water boye it to raise it to the next valve (gate)... Isn't that just the same as a lock on a ship channel. in your example, the first section is the only one where a vacuum is holding the water in the tube. above that the closed valve below is holding it there. If the first valve were below water level in the bottom tank, the same thing would happen with NO VACUUM at all.
bccooleycompany 8 months ago
search on youtube "Energy from Water (Floatation)" its already been tried.
basilenglish 8 months ago
Does aerodynamics play a large role in the speed at which the object rises?
janaswang 8 months ago
How is it that you have all the free time to do these experiments? I must know!! I want infinite free time and lots of value with which to experiment.
derman077 8 months ago
@derman077 Free time is when ever I am not working:-) We don't really do much else.
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MathewsWire 8 months ago
Awesome, Dan! Not only is it interesting, but the section after the GPS Extras, in slowmotion is awesomely beautiful, the music, the shots, the takes, wow, just awesome! You rock! :)
TheRealXesc 8 months ago
It's nice to see you guys back making videos!
jtwebman 8 months ago
Each time an object is floated to the top a volume of water is displaced. What is not being considered here is the energy needed to lift the volume of displaced water for the subsequent lifts.
FikTixious 8 months ago
The solution may be under your sink.
Oh and get a haircut ya hippie!
RobRichmondRPG 8 months ago
th@ was osme
stooncol619 8 months ago
You might only go with a water rim pump ( or how they are called ??) , the ones, that pump water up with strokes with air inside the hoses too.... These have very good efficiencies and might violate the hydrostatic paradoxon... look for these pump videos here on youtube. But do you have enough energy to drive such a pump from the falling mass ? Maybe when you build it pretty big... You have to somehow get the water replaced in the top of the tube ! So you have to bring up the water to the top !
overunitydotcom 8 months ago
Well the normal theory is that the object displaces as much water as its size is. So the water then goes out of the tube into the bassin.
Now if you get the object out of the top you have to replace the water with less energy into the tube...which is hard to do.. otherwise after a few cycles all your water will be gone out of the tube...As the hydrostatic paradoxon will cause you problems also small colums of water can not be pushed up to the top with less energy ! Regards, Stefan.
overunitydotcom 8 months ago
Seems to me the power you get or energy stored to make that work would be on the assumption that floating is a speed enough. Water will not destroy what you got coming up. The cleanliness of the water, and the pressure and weight of your system. I think they did this with a air jet and tubes for a final project.
The only problem i see is where does water become better then a vacuum and flush of air. unless your underground but even then the air should work better. But great idea amigo
frankscola 8 months ago
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GuruMN 8 months ago
Great Music. What is the name of it?
Francis362003 8 months ago
You need more energy to raise the column of water, than to directly lift the object using cables. Also the construction of the tube will cost a great deal more than a cable of twice the length.
Interesting theory though.. Thanks Dan.
locouk 8 months ago
@locouk true
yellowmetalcyborg 8 months ago
(Continued from my last post) So in other words the water needed to replace the water displaced by the object floated will have to be supplied to the top of the 'water lift' & to do this will require more energy than that used to lift the object in the first place. E.G ‘water lift' floats a 100kg object to the top. But ofc this object must be lighter then the water it displaces. So say it displaces 120kgs of water. This means u will need to find 120kg of water to replace the water displaced.
monkayjim999 8 months ago
im sure this clever use of grav mechanics can be used to draft some energy out of it.
nephozo 8 months ago
If this is an energy making idea then it wouldn't work. Huge fan though :)
Benlism 8 months ago
This will not produce more energy then u will have to put in, but it might be an efficient way of lifting things. The problem using the valve method is once the object floats to the top you close a valve below it.(To stop the water flowing back down when you open the top to access the object). Then once you have taken the object out it will have displaced a certain amount of water (which will be replaced by air). Meaning you will need to fill that ‘air gap’ up with water before u close the valve
monkayjim999 8 months ago
My granddaddy had a 3000 foot water well that he used air to lift to the surface. Kinda cool
btigtime2 8 months ago
What about the energy required to lift the tube of water to that height, water is very heavy. I like your videos keep going.
Calekid 8 months ago
Ummm can you do this with a container ship?
callmeshane303 8 months ago
@callmeshane303 Take a look at the miraflores locks on the Panama Canal, a similar principal.
locouk 8 months ago
@locouk
As I said to Teddy Roosevelt in 1903, "Ted your going to need a lot of glass".
He replied, "Yes my lord and saviour, you are right, in fact you are always right, in fact it's never been known for you to be wrong. But perhaps when you return to your time machine and travel the universe, would you be kind enough to bring me back a machine that can make giant glass tubes to fit the ships in?"
I said, "Sorry Ted - it would upset the evolution of technology".
"Oh" said Ted, "You are wise
callmeshane303 8 months ago
Oh Dan, Oh Dan.... Champion Mosquito Breeder!!!!
As soon as you said, "Screw" and "Nuts" - and stood there holding that magnificent shaft in your hand, I thought - "Please remake this video dressed in ladies clothing".
callmeshane303 8 months ago
However, it is to bad that we can´t get perpetual motion from this, because when the nut has floated all the way to the top, it has displaced water with the potential energy of 10 meters when it is there. And thus, it lifts a nut, by pushing down an equal amount of water.
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jamess05milan 8 months ago
Super cool :)
fibreoptik 8 months ago
you can get a s many items as water is being displaced contained over tot the valve
jonnyroy 8 months ago
I can not understand :) how many people din not got the idea from this video.
Interesting idea Dan I do not see an application right now but I'm sure there must be some. I much better than using Hydrogen or Helium balloons to lift stuff since the difference in density from water to air is much bigger.
electrodacus 8 months ago
@electrodacus There is the problem with the energy you need to get that floating object under the water and the energy to close and open the valve.
electrodacus 8 months ago
@electrodacus I'm a bit stupid there is the water you displace from the tube when you insert the object and when you take the object out you need to add water so no fun it took me almost 5 minute to figure this out.
electrodacus 8 months ago
Ah ha! The effort you put into drawing the water into the tube, or standing the tube full of water upright is waaaaay more than it would take to just lift the little float with a block and tackle system. It's a neat idea, but conservation of energy is a real pain when you try to put ideas like this into practical use.
shadeydave 8 months ago
I'm going to use this to make a jet pack
dsigamerman 8 months ago
Nooooooooo. You made me think of more gravity powered devices >: i hate thinking of those things since they never work.
xXxGenasai 8 months ago
That's very cool Dan! Did you just figure this out recently, or did you just get shown this when you were a kid? Anyway it's cool. Thanks for sharing man!
furChrist 8 months ago
U can go 9,8 Meters up after that u will start pulling a vacuum.U try, take a hose on the end of that tube there and lift it over 9,8 and show us what happens :)
HeavyDemir 8 months ago
@HeavyDemir if you find a video of that, please reply. It sounds quite interesting to watch.
roidroid 8 months ago
I totally agree with you ! there is something there, make it into a upside-down u perhaps or something to that effect
archaedemos 8 months ago
Oh, yes, we are enjoying the dynamics of water and the high speed recording of your camera :D besides all that, many things can be achieved using this principle :D
DavidRojoCancun 8 months ago
check out Viktor Schauberger aka the water wizard, some pretty amazing stuff.
SchralperDotCom 8 months ago
And u are doing this because?
youtubsuxfv 8 months ago
A space elevator?
Angelsigns2012 8 months ago
That is some creepy looking water
photolabguy 8 months ago
epic music with slow motion pictures, epic :)
konsul2006 8 months ago
This is a cool proof of concept, Dan. But once you release the water lock it will need to be air vacuumed out wouldn't it? Otherwise atmospheric pressure won't be able to clear the water out from the top. Either way it seems as if the overall energy needed would be a lot less than, for example, using a vacuum to lift objects on their own.
joshcryer 8 months ago
@joshcryer Lock on top about 80% up. Lock on bottom opened w/top closed, object raises to bottom of top lock, bottom closed then top opened. Object floats above the top valve. Close top open bottom start all over.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 8 months ago 9
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Ahh, gotcha, that should work nicely. Look forward to seeing you get some extremely low energy work with this idea! Wonder if there are any other books on the technique... going to dig now...
joshcryer 8 months ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE : GEEZ! I can't believe it! This actually does seem to potentially be a machine that could CREATE WORK! (The work I'm thinking of, is that you could perpetually "drop" the objects back down to water level, and turn the falling acceleration into work.
The only way to DISPROVE this, would be to show that moving the valves would HAVE TO use as much or more energy than you could get out--but I can't see how it would HAVE TO.
Of course, hard to imagine it PRACTICAL. Still...
GetMeThere1 8 months ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE it does seem obvious (: great vid!
archaedemos 2 months ago
kewl
Richmunnich 8 months ago
Now Dan, find something that will keep corrupt banksters and governments at the bottom of the water forever. Then you'd have yourself something there than would make you a rich man. :)
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