Seven days were created. Six of them are called working days for in them the Creator did the work of creation. One day was sanctified (SEPARATED) because the Creator did no work and only rested that one day. The day is called, sabbath, or rest. The day is the seventh day. The seventh day will always be sanctified because it is the only day the Creator rested. The Creator would have to go back to the beginning of Creation and work the sabbath day in order for it to be no longer sanctified.
Since the Creator told us He does not and will not change, anyone declaring the seventh day is no longer sanctified is not only a blatant LIAR, they are quite ignorant, to boot. The seventh day will always be the sanctified day of rest. It cannot become a working day and none of the six days the Creator worked can become a day of rest. We cannot create like the Creator but His love for us is so great that we are able to be like the Creator by resting on the day He told us to remember.
The Creator said, "remember the sabbath to keep it holy." Most Christians run around declaring we are to forget the day the Creator rested and instead we are to pretend the first day is not a working day but a day set aside for rest and worship. The Creator said, "remember", the Christians say, "disregard the sabbath". The Christians prove they are far from the Creator by disobeying and lying to the children of God. It is not the Creator they worship on the first day, just who do they bow to?
Who has been a LIAR from the beginning? Who has always wanted to usurp the Almighty? Who is really leading the Christians to murder and steal from innocent people's in sovereign lands? Who are the Christians worshiping when they disobey the 4th commandment and instead rest and worship on a day the Creator worked? They choose to not be in the likeness of the Creator by obeying the 4th commandment, but instead they honor the father of all lies and murder. They worship and do the bidding of SATAN!
It is not the Creator, nor the Messiah leading the Christians to murder and pillage from innocent people all in the name of war. It is not the Host of Heaven that is impressed with the Christians ability to be deceived and lie and murder and steal due to said deception. It is not the Messiah that is leading the Christians into disobedience. They are following the fallen angels and it is they that lead the Christians to disobey the commandments and call that holiness.
@2tires Acts 21:39 Paul answered, "I am a Jew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people."
Hey anonymous coward? This is Paul declaring he is a Jew after the road to Damascus encounter. When exactly did Paul become a Christian? Where in the Bible can we find Paul declaring he is no longer a Jew, but has converted to Christianity?
It's not there, folks. The lies that proceed from the hearts of Christians go on and on endlessly.
When did the Messiah or any of His disciples convert to Christianity? Where in the Bible do we find the Son of God or any of His followers converting to Christianity? The last supper the Son had with his followers was in honor of Passover. They were celebrating the Passover. Do Christians celebrate the Passover? No they sure don't. They have a entire roster of man ordained days they celebrate. Were the Messiah and his followers practicing Christianity during his last days on earth?
@DominicJCircolone The Messiah was Jewish, Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises [made] unto the fathers/ He taught OT.He could hardy teach what Paul did, rather how ; -Luke.18:31] Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished./ See all thing where fulfilled.
@2tires What? Did you even try to read what you typed, anonymous COWARD? Who is the author of confusion? What you typed is not easily understood and in fact, the way it is typed, it becomes almost undecipherable. Do you know what happens to liars and cowards, anonymous COWARD? Is being afraid to put ones face with ones words really a fruit of the Holy Spirit?
I know you are following your Jesus, but do you know the Son of God is not and never was named, Jesus?
@DominicJCircolone Now that you know Jesus said that He accomplished all or fulfilled all, read Mat.5:18. When He fulfilled all the law according to 5:18 can pass away. Paul's ministry confirms this. Rom 3:25-31 I think is what you are refering to. The laws that Paul is speaking of is propitiation&faith, propitiation=sacrifice. A person is saved by believing 1Cor.15:1-4, death (sacrificed of Messiah) burial & resurrection. Did Messiah teach that or to Gentiles even? NO
@2tires 1 John 2:3 "We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person."
Do those running around declaring the Law is dead keep the commands? Do Christians keep the 4th commandment? Or do they lie and declare it is only for Jews or it has been abolished? Those that say they know Him but don't keep the commands are LIARS.
@DominicJCircolone Did Messiah ever recant on His command to keep the commandment? Not just 603 but 613. When you read Acts His follower are still doing all the things that they did under Judism because Messiah taught them to do. So you need to find out why you think you are subject to only 10 & not the other 603. Messiah never separated the law & neither does Paul. Study man study
@2tires Ten were carved in stone by the finger of the Creator. When He carves the rest in stone I shall keep them, as well. But that will never happen. Where is Sunday worship found in the Bible, anonymous coward? Where is Easter found in the Bible, LIAR? Where is Christmas or any mass for that matter found in the Bible? Your Jesus may have convinced you that your words will be taken seriously no matter what mask you hide behind, but, take my word for it, they are not.
Exo 24:12 And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
@XjmedX Exodus 24 3-4 "When Moses went and told the people all the LORD’s words and laws, they responded with one voice, “Everything the LORD has said we will do.” 4 Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said."
So, we can see that it was not the Creator but Moses that actually wrote down the "words and laws". The Creator wrote on tablets of stone the commandments and laws. How many tablets of stone does it take to write down over 600 laws? More than can fit in the ark.
Exo 24:12 And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
Did Moses come down with more stone tablets than is humanly possible to carry? No, he had a total of two. Those two tablets did not contain the entire torah as is alleged by this anonymous coward too afraid to put their face with their words.
Torah, (תורה) is a Hebrew word meaning "teaching", "instruction", or especially "law". It primarily refers to the first section of the Tanakh–the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, or the Five Books of Moses,
... but can also be used in the general sense to also include both the Written and Oral Law. Jews also use the word Torah, in a wider sense, to refer to the entire spectrum of authoritative Jewish religious teachings throughout history. In this sense it might include the entire Tanakh, the Mishnah, the Talmud and the midrashic literature.
Which Bible does this coward quote from that mixes Hebrew with English? I can't find one that uses the Hebrew word "Torah" in 24:12.
@DominicJCircolone You question is good. You will never read where Paul stated that he is not a Jew. He went to his fellow Jews 1st. But they rejected his message that Messiah was to be their King. Acts 9:15 right from the start God says the Paul is the man to take His message to Gentile & Jew alike. Gal. 1:13-17 explains where Paul got his gospel. ONE Messiah, 2 different gospels but now just one, Paul's gospel 1 Cor. 15:1-4 or you can keep the 613 laws.
@2tires You did not answer the question, anonymous coward. Paul never called himself a Christian because he never was a Christian. Not one apostle nor anyone that interacted with the Messiah ever called themselves, Christians. The religion called Christianity is not once mentioned in the Bible. The ten commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator have not been erased by those calling themselves, Christians. Christian disobedience is the fruit of worshiping lies and liars.
2 Thessalonians 2 10-12 "They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."
So, what is the powerful delusion sent by God so that they will believe the lie and be condemned because they refuse to love the truth but take delight in wickedness? Christianity is the delusion.
Just look at all the Christians delighting in the wickedness of murder and plunder taking place in Afghanistan and Iraq. The overwhelming majority doing the wicked deeds are sunday worshiping Christians following Jesus. The Christians not off murdering and stealing are here supporting the murderers and thieves and cheering them on. That, folks, is what we call taking delight in wickedness. The fruits of Christianity stink all the way to heaven. "Come out of her, my people"
@2tires Yes you are, anonymous coward. Everything you bring to this forum is false teaching from a false follower that is a real Christian. You can judge everyone in government and military and all their millions upon millions of supporters and all the sunday worshiping military families and friends as false, but yours is not a righteous judgment. For it is based on nothing more than your worthless opinion.
You have clearly been exposed as a deceiver that is not to be trusted.
@DominicJCircolone You are way out of line. You are falsely accusing me of things. What does the 10c's say about falsely accusing? I never said that I am a Sunday worshiper, I worship Saturay & every other day of the week. You obviously never read the end of the gospels to see the Messiah never revolked the 613 or Acts to see how the followers of Messiah keep on keeping the 613 because there are examples of it thru out the book.
@DominicJCircolone Show me where Christ separated the law. Come on show me. Show me in Exodus where it says just because God's finger wrote on stone that those laws are never done away. If you'd study your bible you would see that those stones were destroyed, shattered to bits, look it up. You don't believe Paul-3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; NOT OF THE LETTER, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
1 The LORD said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.
Moses, obviously against the will of the Creator, smashed the stone tablets. The Creator, obviously wanting them to be whole, wrote the commandments a second time with His finger.
The heart of a Christian is against the will of the Creator.
They despise the Law that is so important to the Creator that they bear false witness regarding it. Paul, in Romans 7, says the law is spiritual, holy and righteous and good. He said in his mind he is a slave to God's law but his sinful nature is a slave to the law of sin.
Christians disregard pleasing the Creator by obeying Him, they choose instead to be slaves to the law of sin.
They have no need for truth and we are seeing the fruit of this behavior throughout the USA.
"If James says you must keep the law but Paul says you don't; is not that a contridition?" Anonymous coward, the deceiver.
Romans 3:31 "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
Paul says we UPHOLD the law by this faith. They lying deceiving Christians proclaim to UPHOLD means to not keep the law. Then with arrogance only surpassed by ignorance, the lying Christians call that a contradiction.
That is not a contradiction. To keep the law and uphold the law are synonyms. The don't contradict each other, they compliment each other.
Paul asks, do we nullify the law by this faith? He then proceeds to say, NOT AT ALL!
The lying deceiving Christians know most people are not about to read the Bible that proves they are nothing more than disobedient, lying workers of wickedness and deception. The Bible proves the Christians belong to the ruler of this world.
@DominicJCircolone Is DominicJCircolene even your real name? You failed to answer what it is that Messiah would not reveal. What make you think you are a member of "the body of Christ"? You better know. Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Not the 10 but Paul's gospel so what make you think you are heading to heaven when you breath your last?
@DominicJCiroloneContridictions- If you go by what Messian taught,-Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. So you have to be baptized to be saved per Messiah. Messiah's #1 apostle;Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost./ if you don't repent, be baptized you will not have a remission of sin
@DominicJCircolone After baptism you receive the Holy Ghost. So the 12 apostles did that per Yeshua. 1 Cor 1:17 For Messiah sent me[Paul] not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Messiah should be made of none effect. / no baptizing required just beleiving Paul's gospel. When Peter was sent the 1 & only time to Gentiles they believe & were filled w/ the Spirit. - Gentiles believe & receive not get baptized & receive.
@DominicJCircolone QUESTION-WHEN GOD WROTE THE 10C'S DID HE USE LETTERS? 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious *, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
@DominicJCircolone The glory on Mose's face is likened to the 10. The glory on Mose's face faded away, there for; What else faded away?
You have made contriditions in scripture by your theology. If James says you must keep the law but Paul says you don't; is not that a contridition? Messiah in Jn 16: 13 that He is not disclosing everything. What is He not disclosing. What He is not saying is there is a different program since Israel rejected the KING. Learn about the secret.
@2tires Revelation 14:12 "Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."
Who are the saints that persevere by keeping the commandments of God and their faith in the Son of God? Surely, not the Christians running around declaring the commandments are dead and nailed to the cross. We already learned that those declaring to know the Creator but don't keep the commands are LIARS. The Son of God is not teaching the Christians to be LIARS.
Who is teaching the Christians to be LIARS and take pleasure in WICKEDNESS? I'll give you a hint: It's not a God and it's not a Son of God, either. The Christians are following their father, Satan. They call him, Jesus, but they are really doing the bidding of fallen angels. I've have never seen a self-proclaimed Christian come to know and accept truth. I'm afraid I never will. They love lying and the lying LIARS that tell lies much too much. The rotten fruits of Christianity.
@DominicJCircolone HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of the Messiah, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward , [dead works is law keeping] PHIL. 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me[WHO IS ME? IT'S NOT MESSIAH], and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
@2tires You have created contridictions in the bible by your theology. Shall I point them out to you? Please be respectful or you can remain uninformed.
The deceiving Christians love to take scripture out of context by removing a singular verse from an entire chapter and then pretending their interpretation of the verse they have taken out of context is the one true interpretation. As we have clearly displayed in previous posts they not only don't have an accurate interpretation of the singular verse, they blatantly destroy the meaning of the words written in the chapter. Scripture taken out of context is known as pretext.
@DominicJCircolone JAMES 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
JAMES is one of the Jews you can read about in Acts that is obeying the 613 laws. The whole thing, that is what he is speaking of; the whole law. But that is not what we are to follow now. But if you keep the 10c's James says you are guilty of all if you break just one. He is not a Christian he is a Jewish believer & did as Messiah instructed.
@2tires It is so easy to prove this anonymous coward is not with the Son and is nothing more than a deceiver.
Check it out: The deceiver pasted verse 10 but conveniently left out verse 11. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker".
James is NOT talking about 613 like this proven LIAR declares. Don't murder, don't commit adultery they are two of the ten.
This deceiver keeps saying this and that person are not Christians. There are no Christians found anywhere in the Old and New Testaments. Christianity is a bogus, fraudulent and apostate religion.
Let's look at verse 12 which leaves no doubt, this anonymous coward is a deceiver. 12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,"
Do Christians speak and act like those going to be judged by the law that gives freedom? Do Christians even know about the law that gives freedom? Christians are not with the Son and their fruits more than prove it.
More proof we have a deceiver in our midst..." James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?"
Deeds, that sound like more than just saved by faith.
In fact, James rhetorically asks, can such faith even save? The answer is an obvious, NO!
"15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
Did you read that, Christians? Faith by itself is dead. The saints keep the faith and the commands.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.
Did you read that, Christians?
Only those that believe can obey and only those that obey believe. Christians cannot obey because they do not really believe in the Son of God. They worship a fake god, named Jesus, that does not even remotely resemble the Son of God found in the Scripture.
James 2:20 "You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless"?
Can you sense that James is getting a little testy with the saved by faith alone crowd? Can you believe a Christian would even direct someone to James chapter 2? It makes a mockery of them and their religion. Check it out: 24 "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone."
If you want to be a righteous saint, then keep the faith and the commandments.
James 2:26 "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."
There you have it. Christian faith is a DEAD faith. Theirs is the very definition of faith without deeds. Faith without obedience. Faith removed form the founder and perfecter of faith. Christianity is a religion that is apostate selling a faith that is dead.
The Bible makes a complete mockery of Christianity.
Paul says we are under grace on the law. You can't be under the OT law and the NT commandments at the same time because they are different, by mixing you have contridictions.
So Jesus never separated the Laws. So when the bible says that the laws were nailed to the cross [to die as he did] they are dead. The Sabbath and Dietary laws went to the grave. Not to say they woulnt be resurrected again in the future. The Jews at some point will be reinstituting the law after the rapture. If I am unlearned and unstable because I can read and believe what the bible only logically leads me to believe, so be it. BTW you have contridictions in your belief system.
@2tires Romans 3:31 "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
Matthew 5:17 ""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Paul said we are to uphold the law because of faith. The founder and perfecter of the faith, the one we are to be following, did not come to abolish but to fulfill the Law it. If one is following the Messiah they too will not abolish but fulfill the Law.
When Adam and Eve were alive they could only eat from plants.Then when Noah got off the boat he could eat anything he could catch. Then the Jews couldn't eat whatever. No pig or shellfish. So we see that God does require different things from different people. For example the Jews had to keep the Law. Jesus taught keep the Law, at no time prior to His ascension He never taught to stop obeying any part of the law. You see this played out by the believers throughout the book of Acts.
first giving honor to GOD who we kno truly walked in the flesh under the name of AN TRULY IS our LORD CHRIST JESUS...colossians chp. 2 verses 16-18 explain that to me?
Very good presentation! I'd like to state SDA's dont force one not to eat meat, its a choice. Eating too much vegetarian meat isnt good for you either...but its not mandatory that we dont eat meat. It does not determine if we will be saved.
May God continue to lead us all into His knowledge in Spirit and Truth..Amen!
Not bad for someone trying to get the truth out, SDA's are taught not to eat meat, but in Timothy 4:2-3 teaches the opposite!. Good job preaching!. Amen.
Now brother Tony, if you r gonna hold preachers to standard, u ought to keep it yoself. Did anyone notice how he asked one of the brothers to read Colossians 2 :16-, but stopped it at where it only talks about food? This i think b'se when you read the whole of vs 16 an 17, it totally contradicts the sabbath teaching he's pushing here. "16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
@Littopastor he did read vs 17 . He said which are a shadow of things to come and this in no way contradicts the sabbath. The sabbath is here and is going no where the sabbath has never been done away with. Get out of that slave teaching and get back to the bible.
@Littopastor Not it doesn't. It is validating it. That verse is saying do not let anyone judge you for doing these things. Not the opposite. This is also a paraphrase of Ezekiel 45:17. Just read it. Colossians 2:16 has been mistaught for two thousand years.
@XjmedX Colossians chapter two must be read in its entirety and understood in that context. Trying to ascertain the real understanding of verse 16 without reading the whole chapter is impossible. In verses 2-3, Paul is telling them they can have the full riches of complete understanding in order that they may know the Son in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Wisdom and knowledge are hidden. One must know the Son to have any chance to locate the treasures.
In verse 4, Paul warns them to not be deceived by fine sounding arguments. Verse 5 he tells them how pleased he is with their discipline and how firm they are in faith. How much discipline does it take to disobey the commandments Paul himself was keeping? Paul was pleased in their being disciplined enough to keep the will of the Creator. He was not commending them for not keeping the commands of God and calling that being disciplined.
Anyone can feign faith and fool the majority but one cannot fake disciplined obedience. From the first 5 verses we begin to see that this letter written by Paul is not really about the commandments carved in stone and surely not about the 4th commandment. Let's read on, shall we? Verses 6-7 are more words of encouragement. Verse 8 is another warning. They are told to stay away from hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition...
...and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.
Now, who among us wants to call the commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator hollow and deceptive philosophy which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world? Paul did no such thing. He was not talking about the commandments carved in stone. Verses 9-12 have nothing to do with the commandments carved in stone. We do learn that it was God...
who raised the Son from the dead in verse 12. "13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
Did Paul say the commandments are legal indebtedness, which are against us and condemn us?
tablets and the commands carved upon them. Verse 15 has nothing to do with the commands. Now we arrive at the infamous verse 16. The one which Christians run around declaring is all about the commandments and specifically the 4th.
" 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Which of the commands carved in stone mention eating or drinking or religious festivals...
...or new moons? Paul is not talking about the stone tablet and the words carved by the finger of the Creator. None of that is on there. Now, as if we can't tell that Christians are taking Colossians chapter two completely out of context yet, they declare "a Sabbath day" means the 4th commandment.
What? The 4th commandment is about the day the Creator rested and sanctified by not working that day. It has nothing to do with any of the many other Sabbaths observed...
...by the religious living in the region. Verse 16 is not referring to the commandments and the remaining verses prove this. In verse 17, Paul lets us know that what he is talking about are shadows of the things to come. The commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator are not shadows of the things to come. Verses 18-19 have nothing to do with the commandments.
Verse 20: "Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why,...
...as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:" Who among us calls the commandments rules that belong to the world? The commandments come form the Creator, not the world. The world does not own the commandments. They are the Creator's commandments not the world's rules.
We are almost done, folks. Stay with me.
21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
Well, now we know with certainty that Paul is not talking about the commandments...
...their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."
That's all, folks. That ends chapter 2 of Colossians. Are the ten commandments regulations that have the appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body, but lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence?
Of course, not. Who gave us the commands? Our Creator. Who runs around calling the Creator...
...the one that carved rules in stone that are against us and condemn us? Who calls the same commands, rules of the world. Who says they are rules that are destined to perish with use? Those that have not received the treasures of wisdom and knowledge because they are not with the Son of God.
Declaring Colossians chapter 2 is about the commands the Creator carved in stone is another way of blaming the Creator for our sins. However, chapter two is not about the commandments.
I had a debate with my own father about Dietary laws. He couldn't understand that Peter's vision (ACT 10) was not permission to eat swine flesh!! concerning Paul's teaching and the law of Yahweh, Acts 21:15-25 tells us that the apostles got that straight with paul, and paul took a Nazarite vow (Num 6:1-27) to prove to the Jews in Jerusalem that he followed the Laws of Yahweh. Satan will never revile this to those that twist Paul's writings.
@dwhite2173 Get yourself a teacher your lost!!! Repent and come to GOD! b4 its to late... Don't respond b/c i won't respond back b/c your to DUMB!! the pastor is teaching from the B I B L E!!! your just DUMB! u obviously don't wanna obey so stay UNJUST STILL thats what JOHN SAID...... I would say peace but GOD said there is no peace to the wicked u don't wanna OBEY! NO PEACE TO U!!!
@dwhite2173 You are one BIG DAMN LIER" you just to rebellious to understand,if he spoke the slightess socalled ERROR" show of where...than again,don't waste yours and our time,because I KNOW YOU CANN'T and I have no doubt about THAT!!!
Seven days were created. Six of them are called working days for in them the Creator did the work of creation. One day was sanctified (SEPARATED) because the Creator did no work and only rested that one day. The day is called, sabbath, or rest. The day is the seventh day. The seventh day will always be sanctified because it is the only day the Creator rested. The Creator would have to go back to the beginning of Creation and work the sabbath day in order for it to be no longer sanctified.
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Since the Creator told us He does not and will not change, anyone declaring the seventh day is no longer sanctified is not only a blatant LIAR, they are quite ignorant, to boot. The seventh day will always be the sanctified day of rest. It cannot become a working day and none of the six days the Creator worked can become a day of rest. We cannot create like the Creator but His love for us is so great that we are able to be like the Creator by resting on the day He told us to remember.
Sabbath!
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
The Creator said, "remember the sabbath to keep it holy." Most Christians run around declaring we are to forget the day the Creator rested and instead we are to pretend the first day is not a working day but a day set aside for rest and worship. The Creator said, "remember", the Christians say, "disregard the sabbath". The Christians prove they are far from the Creator by disobeying and lying to the children of God. It is not the Creator they worship on the first day, just who do they bow to?
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Who has been a LIAR from the beginning? Who has always wanted to usurp the Almighty? Who is really leading the Christians to murder and steal from innocent people's in sovereign lands? Who are the Christians worshiping when they disobey the 4th commandment and instead rest and worship on a day the Creator worked? They choose to not be in the likeness of the Creator by obeying the 4th commandment, but instead they honor the father of all lies and murder. They worship and do the bidding of SATAN!
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
It is not the Creator, nor the Messiah leading the Christians to murder and pillage from innocent people all in the name of war. It is not the Host of Heaven that is impressed with the Christians ability to be deceived and lie and murder and steal due to said deception. It is not the Messiah that is leading the Christians into disobedience. They are following the fallen angels and it is they that lead the Christians to disobey the commandments and call that holiness.
"Come out of her, my people"
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
arrg.... Paul says we are under grace not under the law.
2tires 1 month ago
@2tires Acts 21:39 Paul answered, "I am a Jew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people."
Hey anonymous coward? This is Paul declaring he is a Jew after the road to Damascus encounter. When exactly did Paul become a Christian? Where in the Bible can we find Paul declaring he is no longer a Jew, but has converted to Christianity?
It's not there, folks. The lies that proceed from the hearts of Christians go on and on endlessly.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
When did the Messiah or any of His disciples convert to Christianity? Where in the Bible do we find the Son of God or any of His followers converting to Christianity? The last supper the Son had with his followers was in honor of Passover. They were celebrating the Passover. Do Christians celebrate the Passover? No they sure don't. They have a entire roster of man ordained days they celebrate. Were the Messiah and his followers practicing Christianity during his last days on earth?
NO!
NEVER!
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone The Messiah was Jewish, Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises [made] unto the fathers/ He taught OT.He could hardy teach what Paul did, rather how ; -Luke.18:31] Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished./ See all thing where fulfilled.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires What? Did you even try to read what you typed, anonymous COWARD? Who is the author of confusion? What you typed is not easily understood and in fact, the way it is typed, it becomes almost undecipherable. Do you know what happens to liars and cowards, anonymous COWARD? Is being afraid to put ones face with ones words really a fruit of the Holy Spirit?
I know you are following your Jesus, but do you know the Son of God is not and never was named, Jesus?
Who are you following?
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone Now that you know Jesus said that He accomplished all or fulfilled all, read Mat.5:18. When He fulfilled all the law according to 5:18 can pass away. Paul's ministry confirms this. Rom 3:25-31 I think is what you are refering to. The laws that Paul is speaking of is propitiation&faith, propitiation=sacrifice. A person is saved by believing 1Cor.15:1-4, death (sacrificed of Messiah) burial & resurrection. Did Messiah teach that or to Gentiles even? NO
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires 1 John 2:3 "We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person."
Do those running around declaring the Law is dead keep the commands? Do Christians keep the 4th commandment? Or do they lie and declare it is only for Jews or it has been abolished? Those that say they know Him but don't keep the commands are LIARS.
You are a proven LIAR and an obvious COWARD!
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone Did Messiah ever recant on His command to keep the commandment? Not just 603 but 613. When you read Acts His follower are still doing all the things that they did under Judism because Messiah taught them to do. So you need to find out why you think you are subject to only 10 & not the other 603. Messiah never separated the law & neither does Paul. Study man study
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires Ten were carved in stone by the finger of the Creator. When He carves the rest in stone I shall keep them, as well. But that will never happen. Where is Sunday worship found in the Bible, anonymous coward? Where is Easter found in the Bible, LIAR? Where is Christmas or any mass for that matter found in the Bible? Your Jesus may have convinced you that your words will be taken seriously no matter what mask you hide behind, but, take my word for it, they are not.
No credibility...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone God actually wrote them all Dominic.
Exo 24:12 And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
XjmedX 2 days ago
@XjmedX Exodus 24 3-4 "When Moses went and told the people all the LORD’s words and laws, they responded with one voice, “Everything the LORD has said we will do.” 4 Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said."
So, we can see that it was not the Creator but Moses that actually wrote down the "words and laws". The Creator wrote on tablets of stone the commandments and laws. How many tablets of stone does it take to write down over 600 laws? More than can fit in the ark.
cont...
DominicJCircolone 2 days ago
@DominicJCircolone
Exo 24:12 And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
XjmedX 2 days ago
Did Moses come down with more stone tablets than is humanly possible to carry? No, he had a total of two. Those two tablets did not contain the entire torah as is alleged by this anonymous coward too afraid to put their face with their words.
Torah, (תורה) is a Hebrew word meaning "teaching", "instruction", or especially "law". It primarily refers to the first section of the Tanakh–the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, or the Five Books of Moses,
continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 days ago
... but can also be used in the general sense to also include both the Written and Oral Law. Jews also use the word Torah, in a wider sense, to refer to the entire spectrum of authoritative Jewish religious teachings throughout history. In this sense it might include the entire Tanakh, the Mishnah, the Talmud and the midrashic literature.
Which Bible does this coward quote from that mixes Hebrew with English? I can't find one that uses the Hebrew word "Torah" in 24:12.
DominicJCircolone 2 days ago
@DominicJCircolone You question is good. You will never read where Paul stated that he is not a Jew. He went to his fellow Jews 1st. But they rejected his message that Messiah was to be their King. Acts 9:15 right from the start God says the Paul is the man to take His message to Gentile & Jew alike. Gal. 1:13-17 explains where Paul got his gospel. ONE Messiah, 2 different gospels but now just one, Paul's gospel 1 Cor. 15:1-4 or you can keep the 613 laws.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires You did not answer the question, anonymous coward. Paul never called himself a Christian because he never was a Christian. Not one apostle nor anyone that interacted with the Messiah ever called themselves, Christians. The religion called Christianity is not once mentioned in the Bible. The ten commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator have not been erased by those calling themselves, Christians. Christian disobedience is the fruit of worshiping lies and liars.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
2 Thessalonians 2 10-12 "They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."
So, what is the powerful delusion sent by God so that they will believe the lie and be condemned because they refuse to love the truth but take delight in wickedness? Christianity is the delusion.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Just look at all the Christians delighting in the wickedness of murder and plunder taking place in Afghanistan and Iraq. The overwhelming majority doing the wicked deeds are sunday worshiping Christians following Jesus. The Christians not off murdering and stealing are here supporting the murderers and thieves and cheering them on. That, folks, is what we call taking delight in wickedness. The fruits of Christianity stink all the way to heaven. "Come out of her, my people"
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone false teacher false follower false Christians.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires Yes you are, anonymous coward. Everything you bring to this forum is false teaching from a false follower that is a real Christian. You can judge everyone in government and military and all their millions upon millions of supporters and all the sunday worshiping military families and friends as false, but yours is not a righteous judgment. For it is based on nothing more than your worthless opinion.
You have clearly been exposed as a deceiver that is not to be trusted.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone You are way out of line. You are falsely accusing me of things. What does the 10c's say about falsely accusing? I never said that I am a Sunday worshiper, I worship Saturay & every other day of the week. You obviously never read the end of the gospels to see the Messiah never revolked the 613 or Acts to see how the followers of Messiah keep on keeping the 613 because there are examples of it thru out the book.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone Show me where Christ separated the law. Come on show me. Show me in Exodus where it says just because God's finger wrote on stone that those laws are never done away. If you'd study your bible you would see that those stones were destroyed, shattered to bits, look it up. You don't believe Paul-3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; NOT OF THE LETTER, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires @2tires This is akin to feeding pearls to a swine, so I shall make this my very last post to the deceiving, anonymous coward.
"All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever."Psalm 111:7-8
Did you read that. lying Christian? What does it mean to stand fast FOR EVER AND EVER to you lying and deceiving Christians?
Even after Moses broke the first two tablets(Exodus 32:19), the second set of Ten Commandments were also written by God himself(Exodus 34:1-4) .
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
1 The LORD said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.
Moses, obviously against the will of the Creator, smashed the stone tablets. The Creator, obviously wanting them to be whole, wrote the commandments a second time with His finger.
The heart of a Christian is against the will of the Creator.
Continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
They despise the Law that is so important to the Creator that they bear false witness regarding it. Paul, in Romans 7, says the law is spiritual, holy and righteous and good. He said in his mind he is a slave to God's law but his sinful nature is a slave to the law of sin.
Christians disregard pleasing the Creator by obeying Him, they choose instead to be slaves to the law of sin.
They have no need for truth and we are seeing the fruit of this behavior throughout the USA.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"If James says you must keep the law but Paul says you don't; is not that a contridition?" Anonymous coward, the deceiver.
Romans 3:31 "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
Paul says we UPHOLD the law by this faith. They lying deceiving Christians proclaim to UPHOLD means to not keep the law. Then with arrogance only surpassed by ignorance, the lying Christians call that a contradiction.
James said keep, Paul said UPHOLD.
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
That is not a contradiction. To keep the law and uphold the law are synonyms. The don't contradict each other, they compliment each other.
Paul asks, do we nullify the law by this faith? He then proceeds to say, NOT AT ALL!
The lying deceiving Christians know most people are not about to read the Bible that proves they are nothing more than disobedient, lying workers of wickedness and deception. The Bible proves the Christians belong to the ruler of this world.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone Is DominicJCircolene even your real name? You failed to answer what it is that Messiah would not reveal. What make you think you are a member of "the body of Christ"? You better know. Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Not the 10 but Paul's gospel so what make you think you are heading to heaven when you breath your last?
2tires 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
2tires 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
2tires 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@DominicJCiroloneContridictions- If you go by what Messian taught,-Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. So you have to be baptized to be saved per Messiah. Messiah's #1 apostle;Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yeshua for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost./ if you don't repent, be baptized you will not have a remission of sin
2tires 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone After baptism you receive the Holy Ghost. So the 12 apostles did that per Yeshua. 1 Cor 1:17 For Messiah sent me[Paul] not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Messiah should be made of none effect. / no baptizing required just beleiving Paul's gospel. When Peter was sent the 1 & only time to Gentiles they believe & were filled w/ the Spirit. - Gentiles believe & receive not get baptized & receive.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone 2 GOSPELS FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SIN. BUT YOU MIX THE TWO. SO SAD.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone QUESTION-WHEN GOD WROTE THE 10C'S DID HE USE LETTERS? 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious *, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2tires 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone The glory on Mose's face is likened to the 10. The glory on Mose's face faded away, there for; What else faded away?
You have made contriditions in scripture by your theology. If James says you must keep the law but Paul says you don't; is not that a contridition? Messiah in Jn 16: 13 that He is not disclosing everything. What is He not disclosing. What He is not saying is there is a different program since Israel rejected the KING. Learn about the secret.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires Revelation 14:12 "Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."
Who are the saints that persevere by keeping the commandments of God and their faith in the Son of God? Surely, not the Christians running around declaring the commandments are dead and nailed to the cross. We already learned that those declaring to know the Creator but don't keep the commands are LIARS. The Son of God is not teaching the Christians to be LIARS.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Who is teaching the Christians to be LIARS and take pleasure in WICKEDNESS? I'll give you a hint: It's not a God and it's not a Son of God, either. The Christians are following their father, Satan. They call him, Jesus, but they are really doing the bidding of fallen angels. I've have never seen a self-proclaimed Christian come to know and accept truth. I'm afraid I never will. They love lying and the lying LIARS that tell lies much too much. The rotten fruits of Christianity.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of the Messiah, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward , [dead works is law keeping] PHIL. 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me[WHO IS ME? IT'S NOT MESSIAH], and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires You have created contridictions in the bible by your theology. Shall I point them out to you? Please be respectful or you can remain uninformed.
2tires 2 weeks ago
The deceiving Christians love to take scripture out of context by removing a singular verse from an entire chapter and then pretending their interpretation of the verse they have taken out of context is the one true interpretation. As we have clearly displayed in previous posts they not only don't have an accurate interpretation of the singular verse, they blatantly destroy the meaning of the words written in the chapter. Scripture taken out of context is known as pretext.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
@DominicJCircolone JAMES 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all
JAMES is one of the Jews you can read about in Acts that is obeying the 613 laws. The whole thing, that is what he is speaking of; the whole law. But that is not what we are to follow now. But if you keep the 10c's James says you are guilty of all if you break just one. He is not a Christian he is a Jewish believer & did as Messiah instructed.
2tires 2 weeks ago
@2tires It is so easy to prove this anonymous coward is not with the Son and is nothing more than a deceiver.
Check it out: The deceiver pasted verse 10 but conveniently left out verse 11. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker".
James is NOT talking about 613 like this proven LIAR declares. Don't murder, don't commit adultery they are two of the ten.
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
This deceiver keeps saying this and that person are not Christians. There are no Christians found anywhere in the Old and New Testaments. Christianity is a bogus, fraudulent and apostate religion.
Let's look at verse 12 which leaves no doubt, this anonymous coward is a deceiver. 12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,"
This is James chapter 2 verse 12.
continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Do Christians speak and act like those going to be judged by the law that gives freedom? Do Christians even know about the law that gives freedom? Christians are not with the Son and their fruits more than prove it.
More proof we have a deceiver in our midst..." James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?"
Deeds, that sound like more than just saved by faith.
Continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
In fact, James rhetorically asks, can such faith even save? The answer is an obvious, NO!
"15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
Did you read that, Christians? Faith by itself is dead. The saints keep the faith and the commands.
cont.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.
Did you read that, Christians?
Only those that believe can obey and only those that obey believe. Christians cannot obey because they do not really believe in the Son of God. They worship a fake god, named Jesus, that does not even remotely resemble the Son of God found in the Scripture.
Continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
James 2:20 "You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless"?
Can you sense that James is getting a little testy with the saved by faith alone crowd? Can you believe a Christian would even direct someone to James chapter 2? It makes a mockery of them and their religion. Check it out: 24 "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone."
What they do sounds a lot like works, huh?
Continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
If you want to be a righteous saint, then keep the faith and the commandments.
James 2:26 "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."
There you have it. Christian faith is a DEAD faith. Theirs is the very definition of faith without deeds. Faith without obedience. Faith removed form the founder and perfecter of faith. Christianity is a religion that is apostate selling a faith that is dead.
The Bible makes a complete mockery of Christianity.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Paul says we are under grace on the law. You can't be under the OT law and the NT commandments at the same time because they are different, by mixing you have contridictions.
2tires 1 month ago
So Jesus never separated the Laws. So when the bible says that the laws were nailed to the cross [to die as he did] they are dead. The Sabbath and Dietary laws went to the grave. Not to say they woulnt be resurrected again in the future. The Jews at some point will be reinstituting the law after the rapture. If I am unlearned and unstable because I can read and believe what the bible only logically leads me to believe, so be it. BTW you have contridictions in your belief system.
2tires 1 month ago
@2tires Romans 3:31 "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
Matthew 5:17 ""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Paul said we are to uphold the law because of faith. The founder and perfecter of the faith, the one we are to be following, did not come to abolish but to fulfill the Law it. If one is following the Messiah they too will not abolish but fulfill the Law.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
When Adam and Eve were alive they could only eat from plants.Then when Noah got off the boat he could eat anything he could catch. Then the Jews couldn't eat whatever. No pig or shellfish. So we see that God does require different things from different people. For example the Jews had to keep the Law. Jesus taught keep the Law, at no time prior to His ascension He never taught to stop obeying any part of the law. You see this played out by the believers throughout the book of Acts.
2tires 1 month ago
first giving honor to GOD who we kno truly walked in the flesh under the name of AN TRULY IS our LORD CHRIST JESUS...colossians chp. 2 verses 16-18 explain that to me?
PAINTDACITY 3 months ago
You are leading people away from the truth and need to learn before you teach...
MrJmalone26 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MrJmalone26 why do you say this
iAmLPhoeniX 5 months ago
saturday is the sabbath day not sunday
yungtek7777 6 months ago 7
Very good presentation! I'd like to state SDA's dont force one not to eat meat, its a choice. Eating too much vegetarian meat isnt good for you either...but its not mandatory that we dont eat meat. It does not determine if we will be saved.
May God continue to lead us all into His knowledge in Spirit and Truth..Amen!
1978dagreat 6 months ago 3
Not bad for someone trying to get the truth out, SDA's are taught not to eat meat, but in Timothy 4:2-3 teaches the opposite!. Good job preaching!. Amen.
A1Goku 8 months ago
Now brother Tony, if you r gonna hold preachers to standard, u ought to keep it yoself. Did anyone notice how he asked one of the brothers to read Colossians 2 :16-, but stopped it at where it only talks about food? This i think b'se when you read the whole of vs 16 an 17, it totally contradicts the sabbath teaching he's pushing here. "16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
....read vs 17 too!!
Littopastor 9 months ago
@Littopastor he did read vs 17 . He said which are a shadow of things to come and this in no way contradicts the sabbath. The sabbath is here and is going no where the sabbath has never been done away with. Get out of that slave teaching and get back to the bible.
talesis1 8 months ago
@Littopastor Not it doesn't. It is validating it. That verse is saying do not let anyone judge you for doing these things. Not the opposite. This is also a paraphrase of Ezekiel 45:17. Just read it. Colossians 2:16 has been mistaught for two thousand years.
XjmedX 1 month ago
@XjmedX Colossians chapter two must be read in its entirety and understood in that context. Trying to ascertain the real understanding of verse 16 without reading the whole chapter is impossible. In verses 2-3, Paul is telling them they can have the full riches of complete understanding in order that they may know the Son in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Wisdom and knowledge are hidden. One must know the Son to have any chance to locate the treasures.
Cont.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
In verse 4, Paul warns them to not be deceived by fine sounding arguments. Verse 5 he tells them how pleased he is with their discipline and how firm they are in faith. How much discipline does it take to disobey the commandments Paul himself was keeping? Paul was pleased in their being disciplined enough to keep the will of the Creator. He was not commending them for not keeping the commands of God and calling that being disciplined.
continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
Anyone can feign faith and fool the majority but one cannot fake disciplined obedience. From the first 5 verses we begin to see that this letter written by Paul is not really about the commandments carved in stone and surely not about the 4th commandment. Let's read on, shall we? Verses 6-7 are more words of encouragement. Verse 8 is another warning. They are told to stay away from hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition...
continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.
Now, who among us wants to call the commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator hollow and deceptive philosophy which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world? Paul did no such thing. He was not talking about the commandments carved in stone. Verses 9-12 have nothing to do with the commandments carved in stone. We do learn that it was God...
cont...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
who raised the Son from the dead in verse 12. "13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
Did Paul say the commandments are legal indebtedness, which are against us and condemn us?
Of course, not!
Paul is not talking about the stone...
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
tablets and the commands carved upon them. Verse 15 has nothing to do with the commands. Now we arrive at the infamous verse 16. The one which Christians run around declaring is all about the commandments and specifically the 4th.
" 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Which of the commands carved in stone mention eating or drinking or religious festivals...
cont..
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...or new moons? Paul is not talking about the stone tablet and the words carved by the finger of the Creator. None of that is on there. Now, as if we can't tell that Christians are taking Colossians chapter two completely out of context yet, they declare "a Sabbath day" means the 4th commandment.
What? The 4th commandment is about the day the Creator rested and sanctified by not working that day. It has nothing to do with any of the many other Sabbaths observed...
cont...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...by the religious living in the region. Verse 16 is not referring to the commandments and the remaining verses prove this. In verse 17, Paul lets us know that what he is talking about are shadows of the things to come. The commandments carved in stone by the finger of the Creator are not shadows of the things to come. Verses 18-19 have nothing to do with the commandments.
Verse 20: "Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why,...
cont...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules:" Who among us calls the commandments rules that belong to the world? The commandments come form the Creator, not the world. The world does not own the commandments. They are the Creator's commandments not the world's rules.
We are almost done, folks. Stay with me.
21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
Well, now we know with certainty that Paul is not talking about the commandments...
cont.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
carved in stone. Not one says do not handle, do not taste, do not touch.
22 "These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings."
The commandments carved in stone are not based on merely human commands and teachings destined to perish with use.
23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and ...
continued...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."
That's all, folks. That ends chapter 2 of Colossians. Are the ten commandments regulations that have the appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body, but lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence?
Of course, not. Who gave us the commands? Our Creator. Who runs around calling the Creator...
cont...
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
...the one that carved rules in stone that are against us and condemn us? Who calls the same commands, rules of the world. Who says they are rules that are destined to perish with use? Those that have not received the treasures of wisdom and knowledge because they are not with the Son of God.
Declaring Colossians chapter 2 is about the commands the Creator carved in stone is another way of blaming the Creator for our sins. However, chapter two is not about the commandments.
DominicJCircolone 2 weeks ago
I had a debate with my own father about Dietary laws. He couldn't understand that Peter's vision (ACT 10) was not permission to eat swine flesh!! concerning Paul's teaching and the law of Yahweh, Acts 21:15-25 tells us that the apostles got that straight with paul, and paul took a Nazarite vow (Num 6:1-27) to prove to the Jews in Jerusalem that he followed the Laws of Yahweh. Satan will never revile this to those that twist Paul's writings.
rogerthat507 10 months ago
How can a man speak for only 15 min and speak so many errors??? and with so much confidence!!!!
dwhite2173 10 months ago
@dwhite2173 Get yourself a teacher your lost!!! Repent and come to GOD! b4 its to late... Don't respond b/c i won't respond back b/c your to DUMB!! the pastor is teaching from the B I B L E!!! your just DUMB! u obviously don't wanna obey so stay UNJUST STILL thats what JOHN SAID...... I would say peace but GOD said there is no peace to the wicked u don't wanna OBEY! NO PEACE TO U!!!
Tony461310 10 months ago
@dwhite2173 And what error's do you speak of?
rmj22222 9 months ago
@dwhite2173 You are one BIG DAMN LIER" you just to rebellious to understand,if he spoke the slightess socalled ERROR" show of where...than again,don't waste yours and our time,because I KNOW YOU CANN'T and I have no doubt about THAT!!!
twor4u 6 months ago