alll these ideas are illusions manifesting separation from oneLove....the big bang being the original separation and creation of duality..true, we now can reestablish or should I say remember our oneness by realizing the illusion of the original separation
@unlockize Of course he doesn't expect anyone to believe that what they are dreaming of or trying to imagine of what he means is real... its an abstraction.. everyone knows all words are abstractions of something.. what he is doing however is INVITING us to experience the experience for ourselves (on our own time), using his words as a guide, a path to seek out this understanding a path which points in a direction of where to go.. of course the path is not the destination that is obvious. Metta
@ Aangel100. Too bad you never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had you done so, you would realize that your idea of Wilber's ideas is an illusion that exists only in language. You are talking as though what you are saying actually exists outside of your mind.
Too bad Wilber never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had he done so, he would realize that all his wonderful ideas are an illusion that exist only in language. He's talking as though what he's saying actually exists outside of his mind.
I wonder how Ken would deal with Adam Curtis's assertion that self-organization doesn't exist in the universe except in the human nervous system. The idea of autopoiesis, self-organizing organisms, ecological system's theory, etc, do not exist in nature and is really just a theoretical projection of our own, based on Norbert Wiener's idea of feedback loops that led to the so called cybernetic revolution, personal computers etc. Ecology as feedback doesn't exist apparently, only dynamism...
I am 2012........thank u Mr. Wilber u r a amazing peace of Creation........by the way if anyone has never read the book Boomeritis by Mr. Wilber your really missing out on a fantastic read especially the sexcapades they're timeless:)!
@presentlightoftruth "A personal relationship with the Holy Spirit is the only way." Only way to what? Live? Live happily? Live morally? Live eternally? What?
He actually believes the universe started with the big bang? Sounds like he's trying to explain a cartoon version of the universe to twelve year olds.
You have been a guiding Light in my life for a long time. Exposure to your work has helped me grow and develop - in a balanced way - more than any other influence on the planet. I will be forever grateful to you for that. And so will history.
An incredibly simplistic and deceptive account of how the universe works, clearly intended to provoke a feel-good response even at the expense of common sense and good science. Nice job Ken, way to sell more of your crappy snake oil. Video response to follow.
and automatically we should throw away any sort of explanation or hypothesis, because it makes us feel good? electromagnetic theory makes me feel good, sincerely, should that be a kind of sign that it's of no use to me and only intended to make me feel good? some things in this world will provoke emotion and passion, independent of their validity. what Ken describes is more of a thought experiment then a scientific theorem.
the universe does, as Ken observes, organize itself into higher levels of 'unity'. you could be more scientific about it and say that novelty increase - organized complexity increases over time by using previous established levels of complexity as a platform. Eros is simply a step deeper and claiming that this is related to the desire built within us - the Will Shoepenhauer called it. instead of being a pessimist, Ken sees it is as joyous and beautiful.
you come here with a clear intent to hate on the personality of Ken Wilber and his cultural image - rather then sincerely examine all of his ideas and read his books. I've done that, and although I'm not a religious Wilber fan, I can see so much that is remarkably useful to modern philosophers ( especially in merging western and eastern philosophy).
It's not love, Ken. It is just the way it is. Big Bang was happened cause it was too much love that brought together the tremendous power close together till it could not bear that power, so it was exploded. Now we are in the period of time of this interaction power again. In the next billion years, this force will cause the explosion again, and finally there will be no universe. Love will not help, it 's just the Suchness, the Impermanence.
Thank you for being apart of my life. I hope that you can keep doing this forever.
j3st4h 1 week ago
alll these ideas are illusions manifesting separation from oneLove....the big bang being the original separation and creation of duality..true, we now can reestablish or should I say remember our oneness by realizing the illusion of the original separation
unlockize 2 weeks ago
@unlockize Of course he doesn't expect anyone to believe that what they are dreaming of or trying to imagine of what he means is real... its an abstraction.. everyone knows all words are abstractions of something.. what he is doing however is INVITING us to experience the experience for ourselves (on our own time), using his words as a guide, a path to seek out this understanding a path which points in a direction of where to go.. of course the path is not the destination that is obvious. Metta
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@ Aangel100. Too bad you never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had you done so, you would realize that your idea of Wilber's ideas is an illusion that exists only in language. You are talking as though what you are saying actually exists outside of your mind.
Lublang 2 weeks ago
Too bad Wilber never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had he done so, he would realize that all his wonderful ideas are an illusion that exist only in language. He's talking as though what he's saying actually exists outside of his mind.
aangel100 2 weeks ago
cont. I mean Curti's new documentary 'All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace'.. check it out on the 'internet archive'.
kingofaikido 3 weeks ago
I wonder how Ken would deal with Adam Curtis's assertion that self-organization doesn't exist in the universe except in the human nervous system. The idea of autopoiesis, self-organizing organisms, ecological system's theory, etc, do not exist in nature and is really just a theoretical projection of our own, based on Norbert Wiener's idea of feedback loops that led to the so called cybernetic revolution, personal computers etc. Ecology as feedback doesn't exist apparently, only dynamism...
kingofaikido 3 weeks ago
I am 2012........thank u Mr. Wilber u r a amazing peace of Creation........by the way if anyone has never read the book Boomeritis by Mr. Wilber your really missing out on a fantastic read especially the sexcapades they're timeless:)!
muzicfrst 1 month ago
there is still no prove that concuisness exists prior to brain starting to work or being there when the brain stops working.
smallpotatoes989 2 months ago
He is clearly projecting this love as much as his words express it
tpopton 4 months ago
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smallpotatoes989 4 months ago
@smallpotatoes989 rude comment. most likely has more to do with his serious longterm illness, medications and seizures.
JAYDUBYAH29 2 months ago
@JAYDUBYAH29 true. I have removed it.
smallpotatoes989 2 months ago
Thanks! Share it with your friends!
DONOTATHEIST 4 months ago
@presentlightoftruth , so called morals r just one of mans ideals holding us back from our true nature.
muzicfrst 5 months ago
wow he aged so much :(
MomentsGap 8 months ago
@MomentsGap Well, he has been sick for a long while too.
TheTommiekelly 8 months ago
@TheTommiekelly Still a legend tho.
TheTommiekelly 8 months ago
Where love rules, there is no will to power;
and where power predominates, there love is lacking.
The one is the shadow of the other.
~ Carl Jung
ShaolinTouch 8 months ago
@presentlightoftruth "A personal relationship with the Holy Spirit is the only way." Only way to what? Live? Live happily? Live morally? Live eternally? What?
JoshwithaJ 8 months ago
@JoshwithaJ i think he means it's the only way to be as annoyingly deluded a religious zealot as possible...
JAYDUBYAH29 2 months ago
@JAYDUBYAH29 High five.
JoshwithaJ 2 months ago
@presentlightoftruth ~ Namaste.
NewDayDawning2012 8 months ago 3
Beautiful and true!
Rbrt0 8 months ago
He actually believes the universe started with the big bang? Sounds like he's trying to explain a cartoon version of the universe to twelve year olds.
zendok 8 months ago
Thank you once again Ken.
You have been a guiding Light in my life for a long time. Exposure to your work has helped me grow and develop - in a balanced way - more than any other influence on the planet. I will be forever grateful to you for that. And so will history.
Love, Light and Peace to you.
NewDayDawning2012 8 months ago 9
Sell out.
kasuskasus 8 months ago
No thanks. I can read.
Mjhavok 8 months ago
An incredibly simplistic and deceptive account of how the universe works, clearly intended to provoke a feel-good response even at the expense of common sense and good science. Nice job Ken, way to sell more of your crappy snake oil. Video response to follow.
conferencereport 8 months ago
@conferencereport without differential calculus you just can't get it, right?
swopard 8 months ago
@swopard I have no idea what you mean.
conferencereport 8 months ago
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conferencereport 8 months ago
@conferencereport
and automatically we should throw away any sort of explanation or hypothesis, because it makes us feel good? electromagnetic theory makes me feel good, sincerely, should that be a kind of sign that it's of no use to me and only intended to make me feel good? some things in this world will provoke emotion and passion, independent of their validity. what Ken describes is more of a thought experiment then a scientific theorem.
alliant 4 months ago
@conferencereport
the universe does, as Ken observes, organize itself into higher levels of 'unity'. you could be more scientific about it and say that novelty increase - organized complexity increases over time by using previous established levels of complexity as a platform. Eros is simply a step deeper and claiming that this is related to the desire built within us - the Will Shoepenhauer called it. instead of being a pessimist, Ken sees it is as joyous and beautiful.
alliant 4 months ago
@conferencereport
you come here with a clear intent to hate on the personality of Ken Wilber and his cultural image - rather then sincerely examine all of his ideas and read his books. I've done that, and although I'm not a religious Wilber fan, I can see so much that is remarkably useful to modern philosophers ( especially in merging western and eastern philosophy).
alliant 4 months ago
@alliant Thanks for the comment. I've read all his books too and my opinion still stands.
conferencereport 4 months ago
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totemdynamics 8 months ago 2
It's not love, Ken. It is just the way it is. Big Bang was happened cause it was too much love that brought together the tremendous power close together till it could not bear that power, so it was exploded. Now we are in the period of time of this interaction power again. In the next billion years, this force will cause the explosion again, and finally there will be no universe. Love will not help, it 's just the Suchness, the Impermanence.
meesangora 8 months ago
An amazingly simple and clear explanation of the universe. Thanks.
US1ban 8 months ago
Amor.
marcocatano 8 months ago
Thank you.
Gilliatt83 8 months ago
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Monolith1618 8 months ago
Well said Ken, well said.
onibakuonizuka 8 months ago 2