I never knew that Charles Dodgson the mathematician wrote 'The Snark'. Snark story book sounds like a old type of em warfare.Black Snark. I know they called it white swan tupolev 160 but i still grey goose mother goose from the nursery stories. 'Black Snark'
Unless it's the Erdogan or Alligator models, the KA-50 is inferior to the Apache. The other KA-50 models rely on a single pilot. That means he has to fly and target and fire weapons. The Apache relies on a two man crew. One person who is solely responsible for flying and the co-pilot/gunner. It allows for an easier time managing the combat siutations. The pilot need only worry about flying, relying on the fact that gunner is 100% focused on target acquisition.
@Waffen9999 You are totaly wrong. The Ka-50 is not inferior to Apache. The single pilot has lot of stabiliziced weapons the 30mm canon can be Fired during 350km/h flying the missile is an fire and forgot system can be fired during high speed flying. This machine with his heavy and powerfull armament is realy easy to control. It needs about 20 minutes to know how to use the weapons systems without knowledge about helicopters. Single seater are very good for the reactions of pilots.they dont need
Nice equipment is one thing, but one factor that should never be forgotten are the pilots. A veteran Apache pilot will probably have no problems with totally fucking up a Ka-50 piloted by a rookie. Same story if the Apache pilot is a rookie, and the Kamov pilot a vet. But this concerns almost everything in the army, experience counts just as much as equipment when the shit really hits the fan.
But I dearly hope we never get an answer to this question, cuz that would mean WWII or a 2nd Cold war
I have different views. Why? digital battlefield. One blip on the AWACS monitor confirming an airborne hostile aircraft, i.e. Ka50, a wing of F18s will immediately launches. Remember both Hokum or US Apaches are ground support, in which only when the air-superiority achieved then the attack helos are airborne.
@DarkMetalNightmare ... to wait of locking on from his Co-Pilot gunner. This KA-50 can fire with his long barrel 30mm canon targets controlled till 4,2km range. The smaller barrels like Mi28 or Apache can only fire 2km ranges. The Armor of KA50 is titanic alloy its the most armored helicopter nowdays known. It use the same armor like the Su-25 cockpit The flying Tank. and its the safest Helicopter on earth it has ejection seats. The Apache is inferior to Russian Helicopters its not close to them
@Talshet Wow, you are indeed one funny person. You have any idea the stats they've posted about the problems a single pilot has functioning in a combat type situation? Firing, flying, all while under attack is a serious drain on someone's mental aptitutdes. Never mind I wasn't talking about the combat capabilities of the chopper which are adequate. I was referring extensively and only to the inferior design of a single pilot system, which is shown to be inadequate for a gunship.
@Waffen9999 This Helicopter never flies alone its a grant comands to other Helicopters like Mi-24, Mi-28 and any other Helicopter. In battle situation the primary function is to operate as target assignation. The avionic systems like the optronic are better than usual helicopters Mi-24,Mi-28 and AH64.The optronic system are proven to x30times it can reach targets at 4,5km maximum no Apache can reach this range. And the single seat concept is not inferior.Military studies showed single operating
@Talshet Soldiers are more accurate they are more concentraded and are better and faster assimilater during stress situation. People who work in team reducing their capability to operate with full physics and mentaly. This is confirmed. Please check first the concept of an aircraft before you call it inferior to others.
@Talshet Are more concentrated and areb etter and faster assimilators during stress? Are you fucking crazy? Focusing on flying, targeting and firing all in one in combat is proven to stress you out more. That's why helicopter gunships are largely two man operated. It cuts down on that stress and streamlines operations. Not only is it common sense, it's proven as well.
@Waffen9999 Warst du pfeife jemals in einer Armee? Ich glaube nicht wenn du mal in der FMI (FlugmedizinischesInstitut) wärst wüsstest du was die dort untersuchen. Es ist bewiesen das Elite Soldaten, wenn sie auf sich alleine gestellt sind Intuitiv denken und handeln. Die Reaktionszeit ist sehr viel schneller als bei Soldaten die in der Truppe cooperieren, auch bei Piloten. Geh erst mal in eine Armee und bild dich mal auf diesem Gebiet und sammle mal selber Erfahrungen als Soldat.
The Apache still gets in close, for that is the role of a gunship, Close air support, and although they can fire from a long way away, they are still closely involved in battles. The Kamov Ka 50 can do what the Apache does, but better. It is more manouverable, protected, and armed, which would give you an advantage over the Apache. Plus it has a higher survival rate due to its ejector seat system.
Go ahead an bring your Ka-50s out, it will just get fucked up by the west's far superior air-air fighters, and the funny thing is you wont even know you are getting attacked until you are dead. Go stealth or go home.
@chillaxer1993 strela rockets are russian strela - arrow and i dont think they are used at present day and yes its a standard modern helicopter requirement to be able to evade the lock on weapons . I think you play to much black ops hahaha
"6 km" (3:58) . Not true, Vikhr atgm (Ka-50"s main anti-tank weapon) max range is 8 km. In 2003 Ka-52 end test flight's wiht new atgm - HERMES-A. Max range for "air" version of Hermes is 25 km.
This is the real thing not the Apache........ Still I don't get why the Russians want to opt for the Mil-28 over this baby............... I can understand that this is a very complex and maintenance-demanding system but then again, it offers just so much..... And the co-axial rotor design it uses can easily shame the best of the conventional helis.....
What they don't tell you about the Apache is that in 2006 they concluded (after a failed deep strike mission) that the Apache lacked sufficient armour to resist (wait for it) RIFLE CALIBRE ROUNDS! LMAO!
Another thing they don't tell you about the Apache is that if you fly it wrong then you smack the rotor blades into the nose of the Apache.
That lack of armour was probably a big problem around the Apaches rear rotor. KA50 has NO rear rotor.
i wanna see this thing go up against a longbow in a war game to see who is better in a face off ,day or night in mountianous terrin, perferablly day starting point 100 miles apart by 200 miles wide or 50 miles by 100 miles with no ground or air support just the two of them or instead of a longbow, how about comanche!!!!
I Agree...just make a episode like "the deadliest warrior" but then called "the deadliest helicopters" and put all the data in the simulator and play it!
@habjanic7 No it is not... i might be very maneuverable and fast but when it comes to technology and targeting the AH-64 is much better. Why dodge bullets and get very close to the targets when you can just stand back and let the rockets fly.
"Black Shark"
Still the best name I've ever heard for an aircraft.
GrayLeader2184 3 weeks ago
I never knew that Charles Dodgson the mathematician wrote 'The Snark'. Snark story book sounds like a old type of em warfare.Black Snark. I know they called it white swan tupolev 160 but i still grey goose mother goose from the nursery stories. 'Black Snark'
divisorplot 1 month ago
Man what a mean helicopter atleast its an improvement from the MI-24 which tended to chop its own tailrotor off if it banked two hard
TheBasalisk 2 months ago
Mi-24 is the best!
Flanker751 3 months ago
Awesome.
andreipetunin 3 months ago
wrong @ 1:50
its 30MM not 30 Cal
cs512tr 4 months ago 2
Total respect for Russian's intelligence. :D I truly admire them for making so much with so little (compared to US's numerous sources).
Deusrexmachina 4 months ago 4
Unless it's the Erdogan or Alligator models, the KA-50 is inferior to the Apache. The other KA-50 models rely on a single pilot. That means he has to fly and target and fire weapons. The Apache relies on a two man crew. One person who is solely responsible for flying and the co-pilot/gunner. It allows for an easier time managing the combat siutations. The pilot need only worry about flying, relying on the fact that gunner is 100% focused on target acquisition.
Waffen9999 5 months ago
@Waffen9999 Полный бред...
Pravoverniy 3 months ago
@Waffen9999 You are totaly wrong. The Ka-50 is not inferior to Apache. The single pilot has lot of stabiliziced weapons the 30mm canon can be Fired during 350km/h flying the missile is an fire and forgot system can be fired during high speed flying. This machine with his heavy and powerfull armament is realy easy to control. It needs about 20 minutes to know how to use the weapons systems without knowledge about helicopters. Single seater are very good for the reactions of pilots.they dont need
Talshet 3 months ago
I still love the Russian Mil Mi 24 Hind.Its the most badass gunship i ever seen.The design is very great.
fah369 6 months ago
Nice equipment is one thing, but one factor that should never be forgotten are the pilots. A veteran Apache pilot will probably have no problems with totally fucking up a Ka-50 piloted by a rookie. Same story if the Apache pilot is a rookie, and the Kamov pilot a vet. But this concerns almost everything in the army, experience counts just as much as equipment when the shit really hits the fan.
But I dearly hope we never get an answer to this question, cuz that would mean WWII or a 2nd Cold war
DarkMetalNightmare 7 months ago
@DarkMetalNightmare
I have different views. Why? digital battlefield. One blip on the AWACS monitor confirming an airborne hostile aircraft, i.e. Ka50, a wing of F18s will immediately launches. Remember both Hokum or US Apaches are ground support, in which only when the air-superiority achieved then the attack helos are airborne.
deestilo 6 months ago
@DarkMetalNightmare
did you pay attention to your history classes?
theirs already been a second world war it happened in the 1940's
andytothesky 5 months ago
@andytothesky LOL ofcourse. Haha, huge type mistake xD
DarkMetalNightmare 5 months ago
@DarkMetalNightmare ... to wait of locking on from his Co-Pilot gunner. This KA-50 can fire with his long barrel 30mm canon targets controlled till 4,2km range. The smaller barrels like Mi28 or Apache can only fire 2km ranges. The Armor of KA50 is titanic alloy its the most armored helicopter nowdays known. It use the same armor like the Su-25 cockpit The flying Tank. and its the safest Helicopter on earth it has ejection seats. The Apache is inferior to Russian Helicopters its not close to them
Talshet 3 months ago
@Talshet Wow, you are indeed one funny person. You have any idea the stats they've posted about the problems a single pilot has functioning in a combat type situation? Firing, flying, all while under attack is a serious drain on someone's mental aptitutdes. Never mind I wasn't talking about the combat capabilities of the chopper which are adequate. I was referring extensively and only to the inferior design of a single pilot system, which is shown to be inadequate for a gunship.
Waffen9999 3 months ago
@Waffen9999 This Helicopter never flies alone its a grant comands to other Helicopters like Mi-24, Mi-28 and any other Helicopter. In battle situation the primary function is to operate as target assignation. The avionic systems like the optronic are better than usual helicopters Mi-24,Mi-28 and AH64.The optronic system are proven to x30times it can reach targets at 4,5km maximum no Apache can reach this range. And the single seat concept is not inferior.Military studies showed single operating
Talshet 3 months ago
@Talshet Soldiers are more accurate they are more concentraded and are better and faster assimilater during stress situation. People who work in team reducing their capability to operate with full physics and mentaly. This is confirmed. Please check first the concept of an aircraft before you call it inferior to others.
Talshet 3 months ago
@Talshet Are more concentrated and areb etter and faster assimilators during stress? Are you fucking crazy? Focusing on flying, targeting and firing all in one in combat is proven to stress you out more. That's why helicopter gunships are largely two man operated. It cuts down on that stress and streamlines operations. Not only is it common sense, it's proven as well.
Waffen9999 3 months ago
@Waffen9999 Warst du pfeife jemals in einer Armee? Ich glaube nicht wenn du mal in der FMI (FlugmedizinischesInstitut) wärst wüsstest du was die dort untersuchen. Es ist bewiesen das Elite Soldaten, wenn sie auf sich alleine gestellt sind Intuitiv denken und handeln. Die Reaktionszeit ist sehr viel schneller als bei Soldaten die in der Truppe cooperieren, auch bei Piloten. Geh erst mal in eine Armee und bild dich mal auf diesem Gebiet und sammle mal selber Erfahrungen als Soldat.
Talshet 3 months ago
@Waffen9999 =HMMMMMM PROFILE OF THISSS IS ABOUT LIKE ASSAULT PLANES
=THOSE ARE OPERATED BY ONE PILOT SO IN KA50 WAS MADE THE SAME HEHE
=GENERRAL CONSTRUCTOR WAS THE MAN WHO INSTEAD OF GENERALS' WISHES,,MADE 1MAN OPERATED HEHE GENERALS WANTED 2-MAN
=HEHE
robotnikkkk 2 months ago
@AgoobyGOOBER
The Apache still gets in close, for that is the role of a gunship, Close air support, and although they can fire from a long way away, they are still closely involved in battles. The Kamov Ka 50 can do what the Apache does, but better. It is more manouverable, protected, and armed, which would give you an advantage over the Apache. Plus it has a higher survival rate due to its ejector seat system.
boffinboy100 7 months ago
Go ahead an bring your Ka-50s out, it will just get fucked up by the west's far superior air-air fighters, and the funny thing is you wont even know you are getting attacked until you are dead. Go stealth or go home.
AStealA8 8 months ago
@AStealA8 what a bullshit
zzerDrezz 8 months ago
is you cant compare this to an apache. ka 52 is in its own class.
alexmedvec 9 months ago
Beautiful Bird.
flytwa78 10 months ago
ka-52 is better xD
dalewachoo 10 months ago
Look, the Video has One Dislike now, it was ME!
G0LD3NGAM3R1989 10 months ago
@G0LD3NGAM3R1989 Your a cunt
abcdofc 8 months ago
That's one badassed bird. Why did they pick the Havoc?
1st503rdSGT 11 months ago
@1st503rdSGT - cus of price i guess
MrPelhambay 11 months ago
i say the cobra can take it
Patrick033189 1 year ago
Not as good as the RAH-66 would have been.
macman1138 1 year ago 4
has it seen combat???
HokutenKnigth 1 year ago
Ok it's a sick chopper but can it out run a barrage of Strela rockets or stingers? or a SAM?
chillaxer1993 1 year ago
@chillaxer1993 it doesn't have to, their called countermeasures
needafix14 1 year ago
@chillaxer1993 strela rockets are russian strela - arrow and i dont think they are used at present day and yes its a standard modern helicopter requirement to be able to evade the lock on weapons . I think you play to much black ops hahaha
leonardo831129 10 months ago
Russian name - is a "Black Shark"!!!
Maza0071 1 year ago
nice rotors... love Kamov Hokum
willitomneto 1 year ago
he who is best on the stick wins . not the machine....
dfbowman1 1 year ago
@dfbowman1 That's what "SHE" said ...!!!
l2ealllllyyy 1 year ago
"6 km" (3:58) . Not true, Vikhr atgm (Ka-50"s main anti-tank weapon) max range is 8 km. In 2003 Ka-52 end test flight's wiht new atgm - HERMES-A. Max range for "air" version of Hermes is 25 km.
LoooSeR78V 1 year ago
"Machine gun" ?! WTF It's Shipunov's 2A42 30mm autocannon. Bmp-2 use same cannon. Recoil - 5 t.!!! Max range for HE-frag - 4 km. For AP - 2.5 km.
LoooSeR78V 1 year ago
LOL he said 30 caliber machine gun. It's 30mm not 7.62(30 caliber).
vk45de 1 year ago
The heat sig is fucking ridicules on this thing...
RocknRoll707 1 year ago
that helicopter appears in the novalogic comanche games
whelljack 1 year ago
@whelljack
or in the addon for "LockOn" ---> LockOn: Black Shark
RainbowShaker 1 year ago
This is the real thing not the Apache........ Still I don't get why the Russians want to opt for the Mil-28 over this baby............... I can understand that this is a very complex and maintenance-demanding system but then again, it offers just so much..... And the co-axial rotor design it uses can easily shame the best of the conventional helis.....
anshumanabhisek 1 year ago
What they don't tell you about the Apache is that in 2006 they concluded (after a failed deep strike mission) that the Apache lacked sufficient armour to resist (wait for it) RIFLE CALIBRE ROUNDS! LMAO!
Another thing they don't tell you about the Apache is that if you fly it wrong then you smack the rotor blades into the nose of the Apache.
That lack of armour was probably a big problem around the Apaches rear rotor. KA50 has NO rear rotor.
Ag3nt0fCha0s 1 year ago
This better then Apache 100% lol
seven47katana 1 year ago
i wanna see this thing go up against a longbow in a war game to see who is better in a face off ,day or night in mountianous terrin, perferablly day starting point 100 miles apart by 200 miles wide or 50 miles by 100 miles with no ground or air support just the two of them or instead of a longbow, how about comanche!!!!
MegaLibra1979 1 year ago
@MegaLibra1979
I Agree...just make a episode like "the deadliest warrior" but then called "the deadliest helicopters" and put all the data in the simulator and play it!
VTIEG2 11 months ago
this is the best helicopter in the world.
habjanic7 1 year ago 51
@habjanic7 No it is not... i might be very maneuverable and fast but when it comes to technology and targeting the AH-64 is much better. Why dodge bullets and get very close to the targets when you can just stand back and let the rockets fly.
AgoobyGOOBER 7 months ago
@habjanic7 maybe most versatile
chimichanga1254 6 months ago
@habjanic7 No the Ka-52
Matthew12B 4 months ago
@habjanic7 No, I think you're wrong, Ka-52 should be better:)
MrDenLion 3 months ago
i'd love to see that heli in action side-by-side with the apache
Roadkill263732 1 year ago
I LOVE that heli!
3NOSIRRAH 1 year ago 24
I bet you get a LOT of noise from those contra-rotating blades.
I think if you have a ground attack aircraft (and the Russians have the superb Su25) then you dont need an attack helicopter.
vodkasvictim 2 years ago
вот это верт) Вот ток переводчик заеб. русского не слышно
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