That is too cool brother! You should check out the Matthiaswandel channel here on youtube and see if he couldn't help you out with setting up some wooden gears that would give you a set increment of ascent and descent of the table so that you can sand dimensional wood...
@THSurvivalGear Thanks! I will check his channel. There is another guy I ordered gear making plans from - Stevengarrison (dot) com ,,a genius. I use a large threaded rod to raise and lower the table but it is a lot of turning if the thickness of wood is thick and I was set at thin (or vice versa).
@orlandofriend thanks,,I'll have to check it out. I havent run it for a while and was thinking of rebuilding the whole thing to make it look nicer. Maybe a shorter belt will work better.
@fluterampal I dont think that is the way to go. Not sure, theres a big chance the lid and more are veneered. You may sand through it. If it is solid wood, hand sanding should be fine, working to higher grits. A hand plane will leave the smoothest finish and get rid of glue seams from the lid panels. The glass like finish depends on the result of the wood but the finish is a technique all in itself. Wet sand from 400 up to micro glazes. i'd ask a piano restoration place first.
brill pity about all the safety freaks .. but brill to see home made without seeing made in japan..lol oh yes dont forget to wear a helmet the sun might fall out of the sky..dohhhh
@steveho79 I made a guard/dust collector, I'll have to take a picture of it and put it on the website. It is made of clear plexiglass. I need to buy a fitting and attach it to the plexi so I can connect my shop vac to it. The dust hood came out better than I thought it would.
I have looked all over the internet for a drum and can not find what I am looking for, can someone stir me in the right direction. Looking for 25" or longer drum.... Maybe a website might be helpful...
@b4mrducks you can google "printing press rollers" and hopefully find a place that has used ones they might sell to you. I cant imagine how expensive they are. How about "drum sander parts" for repairing the machines? This is why most people make their own drums, ie: " aluminum tubes ,pvc pipe, mdf..etc.
@b4mrducks Would a treadmill front roller be what your looking for? If so, look online at support.startrac.com. They have a poly-V puly on one end too. They are about 3 inch in diameter and made of steel. I have used ones in my warehouse I'd sell if anyone would be interested.
this looks cool. I like how simple your bed is. Old table saws used to control blade exposure height by the incline method.. I had a 24" woodmaster when I had a bigger shop. The sandpaper held on with the hook and loop system. I still taped both sides anyway. There is a sander on fine woodworking magazine. shop built, and looks okay. It takes time to put something like that together. I like it. Thanks!
@jws54 Hi glad you like it! The hardest part on the whole thing was figuring out how to trim the ends of the h&l sandpaper so it would spiral onto the drum. I used a method of measuring with a string but it didnt work. I finally got it by eye.
that was even a problem on the woodmaster machine. always used an old belt to get it close. It seems like it would be a bear to get that adhesive velcro on just right...
@jws54 I bought more than I needed with the velcro. When I realized I couldnt get it on the way a website showed me, I just overlapped each end until the seams in the center closed. Then I trimmed the end flush with the edge and it worked fine. Then I had to do it with the sandpaper, ugh! I planned on making a little gauge of the angle but I forgot. I'll do it when I replace it.
id love to see the table in action.. see how its adjusts for different thickness of wood and also see how everything is mounted.. not trying to "Steal" your idea but id like to steal your idea...lol
@zacker001 most of it is from something I saw on the web, just changed it up a little because my woodworking skills suck. I tried to upload more videos but all of a sudden my pc doesnt recognize my camera...ugh! I'll try to put up regular pics on the website of the bottom,,I just use a threaded rod to raise the table. very simple.
my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
thanks for the reply trex.. if anyone is interested, i just took delivery of this aluminium tube from an ebay seller which i think will be perfect once i get end caps fitted and an axle through the middle. possibly the best choice for a drum as it's a good size... 500mm long and 130mm o/d [ outer diameter ]. take a look...
type this number in an ebay search box... 160326429000
hi, where did you find such an ideal drum for the project ?.. i'm inspired to make my own but having trouble finding a drum. it seems photocopiers havs an alluminium drum that might be usable..
@nickpeeeeeee it is made of 3" discs of 3/4" mdf with a 5/8" diameter center hole. I cut them close to size then made them round with a jig on a router table. I also found a printer company selling a bunch of rollers - they might work out fine too. If you know someone with a lathe or machine shop they can true it up. You can also raise the table with sandpaper on it until it smooths the drum itself.
Just being a little facetious. I do wonder though how safe that is with no guard and no feed rollers to control the feed. Has it ever caught hold of an uneven piece of stock and fired it out at speed? I'd be a bit concerned about getting a finger too close and having it pulled under the drum.
As it is in the video,,it isnt safe at all mainly because of the pulleys being open. I made a shroud for that and the dust hood works well. Strangely, it never shoots the wood out. probably because I set it with such light pressure. Also, fingers cant get pulled under, the drum is spinning towards you, it is hard to tell in the video. A pushstick sends the wood under the roller very nicely.
I think I'd still stand to the side of the work piece, just like I do with a table saw. They rarely kick back either, but when they do, lookout! Fingers can't get pulled under when feeding the stock, but you get them pretty close when you reach over to grab it as it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea is pretty good, but it could use a little more anti-hazard engineering.
yes standing at the side is much better. I may shorten the legs to make it lower, I think it would make it easier to see the wood coming out ..thanks for looking
It think it was oak that I used. So far I used the DS to make a guitar fretboard. It worked perfectly. I'm happy with it. I still need to make the dust collector.
@trex117427 Very slick idea. I'm just getting into building guitars myself, still don't have the shop built, but when I do, this will be on my list of things to build. Sure would be nice to sand pieces in preparation for like a maple cap on chambered guitar bodies and like most of us who likes sanding finished tops? Would be kinda nice to make a automated drum feed on both sides to feed the work through the machine, but I suppose thats getting a bit fancy. Thanks for a great idea!
@DynaflowDonnie I've seen some auto feed home built jobs,,pretty good,, but it was just way more work than I wanted to put into it. I would rig it up with the same motor, different pulley size and one feed roller and a dummy roller and a large rubber mat. good luck with your guitars,,keep me posted, I'd like to see them.
could i ask a question. if a person could supply a steel drum sander on a shaft for a reasonable price and a metal adjustable table would this be of interest to anyone, i am looking to buy a metal lathe and a way to help my fellow wood worker. could you please let me know , im disabled and board and like the rest of you im not rich. please give me your 2 cents .jeff
@trex117427 Haha, great idea, I know it'll work fine, some kids I used to work with were actually dropping scraps onto a table saw blade. let me tell you it came off there with good distance and velocity.. XD
Looks like my homemade.... sort of. I need to post the final video on mine... it was still in progress.
orlandofriend 2 months ago
@orlandofriend I'm thinking of tearing it all down and making it look nice. mines a very slow work in progress
trex117427 2 months ago
That is too cool brother! You should check out the Matthiaswandel channel here on youtube and see if he couldn't help you out with setting up some wooden gears that would give you a set increment of ascent and descent of the table so that you can sand dimensional wood...
THSurvivalGear 3 months ago
@THSurvivalGear Thanks! I will check his channel. There is another guy I ordered gear making plans from - Stevengarrison (dot) com ,,a genius. I use a large threaded rod to raise and lower the table but it is a lot of turning if the thickness of wood is thick and I was set at thin (or vice versa).
trex117427 3 months ago
It sounds like you need to keep better tension on the belt because when the drum hits a high spot of wood you can hear the motor vibrating.
orlandofriend 4 months ago
@orlandofriend thanks,,I'll have to check it out. I havent run it for a while and was thinking of rebuilding the whole thing to make it look nicer. Maybe a shorter belt will work better.
trex117427 4 months ago
Where can i buy a drum like that 6 feet wide? Im doing a lid of a piano that must be glass like in flatness when polished. Thanks in advance
fluterampal 11 months ago
@fluterampal I dont think that is the way to go. Not sure, theres a big chance the lid and more are veneered. You may sand through it. If it is solid wood, hand sanding should be fine, working to higher grits. A hand plane will leave the smoothest finish and get rid of glue seams from the lid panels. The glass like finish depends on the result of the wood but the finish is a technique all in itself. Wet sand from 400 up to micro glazes. i'd ask a piano restoration place first.
trex117427 11 months ago
brill pity about all the safety freaks .. but brill to see home made without seeing made in japan..lol oh yes dont forget to wear a helmet the sun might fall out of the sky..dohhhh
bloodynuts2 1 year ago
@bloodynuts2 but the home made drum sander from Japan can take your picture too!! LOL
trex117427 1 year ago
Good idea, please do not forget about safety!
MEBLEMARSTOL 1 year ago
@MEBLEMARSTOL thanks!!
trex117427 1 year ago
You should put a guard and dust collection to this unit
Steve
steveho79 1 year ago
@steveho79 I made a guard/dust collector, I'll have to take a picture of it and put it on the website. It is made of clear plexiglass. I need to buy a fitting and attach it to the plexi so I can connect my shop vac to it. The dust hood came out better than I thought it would.
trex117427 1 year ago
I have looked all over the internet for a drum and can not find what I am looking for, can someone stir me in the right direction. Looking for 25" or longer drum.... Maybe a website might be helpful...
b4mrducks 1 year ago
@b4mrducks you can google "printing press rollers" and hopefully find a place that has used ones they might sell to you. I cant imagine how expensive they are. How about "drum sander parts" for repairing the machines? This is why most people make their own drums, ie: " aluminum tubes ,pvc pipe, mdf..etc.
trex117427 1 year ago
@b4mrducks Would a treadmill front roller be what your looking for? If so, look online at support.startrac.com. They have a poly-V puly on one end too. They are about 3 inch in diameter and made of steel. I have used ones in my warehouse I'd sell if anyone would be interested.
brandiclay 1 year ago
@brandiclay where can i buy a drum 6 feet wide?
fluterampal 11 months ago
this looks cool. I like how simple your bed is. Old table saws used to control blade exposure height by the incline method.. I had a 24" woodmaster when I had a bigger shop. The sandpaper held on with the hook and loop system. I still taped both sides anyway. There is a sander on fine woodworking magazine. shop built, and looks okay. It takes time to put something like that together. I like it. Thanks!
jws54 1 year ago
@jws54 Hi glad you like it! The hardest part on the whole thing was figuring out how to trim the ends of the h&l sandpaper so it would spiral onto the drum. I used a method of measuring with a string but it didnt work. I finally got it by eye.
trex117427 1 year ago
@trex117427
that was even a problem on the woodmaster machine. always used an old belt to get it close. It seems like it would be a bear to get that adhesive velcro on just right...
jws54 1 year ago
@jws54 I bought more than I needed with the velcro. When I realized I couldnt get it on the way a website showed me, I just overlapped each end until the seams in the center closed. Then I trimmed the end flush with the edge and it worked fine. Then I had to do it with the sandpaper, ugh! I planned on making a little gauge of the angle but I forgot. I'll do it when I replace it.
trex117427 1 year ago
id love to see the table in action.. see how its adjusts for different thickness of wood and also see how everything is mounted.. not trying to "Steal" your idea but id like to steal your idea...lol
zacker001 1 year ago
@zacker001 most of it is from something I saw on the web, just changed it up a little because my woodworking skills suck. I tried to upload more videos but all of a sudden my pc doesnt recognize my camera...ugh! I'll try to put up regular pics on the website of the bottom,,I just use a threaded rod to raise the table. very simple.
trex117427 1 year ago
@trex117427 disculpame si te ofendí. no fue mi intención de ningún modo
espero que tu carrera de exitos como inventor sea fructífera y larga. que la fortuna te acompañe y seas reconocido a todo lo ancho y largo del mundo.
saludos.
leonelartesano2
lexartesan1 1 year ago
@lexartesan1 Gracias. dispensa mi respuesta mala. El video fue hecho rápido. No está como parece.
trex117427 1 year ago
what power is your motor ?
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
what power is your motor ?
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
@nickpeeeeeee it is 3/4 HP ,,it doesnt bog down at all,,more than enough power
trex117427 1 year ago
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my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
thanks for the reply trex.. if anyone is interested, i just took delivery of this aluminium tube from an ebay seller which i think will be perfect once i get end caps fitted and an axle through the middle. possibly the best choice for a drum as it's a good size... 500mm long and 130mm o/d [ outer diameter ]. take a look...
type this number in an ebay search box... 160326429000
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
@nickpeeeeeee let us know how it came out. the axle has to be centered perfectly otherwise it may have to be made true on a lathe.
trex117427 1 year ago
hi, where did you find such an ideal drum for the project ?.. i'm inspired to make my own but having trouble finding a drum. it seems photocopiers havs an alluminium drum that might be usable..
nickpeeeeeee 1 year ago
@nickpeeeeeee it is made of 3" discs of 3/4" mdf with a 5/8" diameter center hole. I cut them close to size then made them round with a jig on a router table. I also found a printer company selling a bunch of rollers - they might work out fine too. If you know someone with a lathe or machine shop they can true it up. You can also raise the table with sandpaper on it until it smooths the drum itself.
trex117427 1 year ago
I will add a list of parts to woodworkerspost com
trex117427 1 year ago
@zacker001 i'm having trouble replying
trex117427 1 year ago
Let me know how the skin grafts work out.
mithrandir10001 2 years ago
No skin grafts needed, I added a plexi dust hood and I use a push stick..so far I'm extremely happy with the way it turned out.
trex117427 2 years ago
Just being a little facetious. I do wonder though how safe that is with no guard and no feed rollers to control the feed. Has it ever caught hold of an uneven piece of stock and fired it out at speed? I'd be a bit concerned about getting a finger too close and having it pulled under the drum.
mithrandir10001 2 years ago
As it is in the video,,it isnt safe at all mainly because of the pulleys being open. I made a shroud for that and the dust hood works well. Strangely, it never shoots the wood out. probably because I set it with such light pressure. Also, fingers cant get pulled under, the drum is spinning towards you, it is hard to tell in the video. A pushstick sends the wood under the roller very nicely.
trex117427 2 years ago
I think I'd still stand to the side of the work piece, just like I do with a table saw. They rarely kick back either, but when they do, lookout! Fingers can't get pulled under when feeding the stock, but you get them pretty close when you reach over to grab it as it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea is pretty good, but it could use a little more anti-hazard engineering.
mithrandir10001 2 years ago
yes standing at the side is much better. I may shorten the legs to make it lower, I think it would make it easier to see the wood coming out ..thanks for looking
:)
trex117427 2 years ago
That looks like oak wood. Nice homemade sander seems to work ok
Thanks
drail80s 2 years ago
It think it was oak that I used. So far I used the DS to make a guitar fretboard. It worked perfectly. I'm happy with it. I still need to make the dust collector.
trex117427 2 years ago
@trex117427 Very slick idea. I'm just getting into building guitars myself, still don't have the shop built, but when I do, this will be on my list of things to build. Sure would be nice to sand pieces in preparation for like a maple cap on chambered guitar bodies and like most of us who likes sanding finished tops? Would be kinda nice to make a automated drum feed on both sides to feed the work through the machine, but I suppose thats getting a bit fancy. Thanks for a great idea!
DynaflowDonnie 1 year ago
@DynaflowDonnie I've seen some auto feed home built jobs,,pretty good,, but it was just way more work than I wanted to put into it. I would rig it up with the same motor, different pulley size and one feed roller and a dummy roller and a large rubber mat. good luck with your guitars,,keep me posted, I'd like to see them.
trex117427 1 year ago
ok, now I see how to reply...
trex117427 2 years ago
I'm trying to answer the comments but it doesnt seem to be working right..
trex117427 2 years ago
could i ask a question. if a person could supply a steel drum sander on a shaft for a reasonable price and a metal adjustable table would this be of interest to anyone, i am looking to buy a metal lathe and a way to help my fellow wood worker. could you please let me know , im disabled and board and like the rest of you im not rich. please give me your 2 cents .jeff
fromcolusaclasso1984 2 years ago
nice! other than the wood, do you have a materials list you can share? thanks...
nhojcam 2 years ago
I think I'm still having trouble replying to the comment section...
trex117427 2 years ago
I'm thinking of turning it around, setting up a targe and seeing if I can launch some wood! I'm going for distance.
trex117427 3 years ago
@trex117427 Haha, great idea, I know it'll work fine, some kids I used to work with were actually dropping scraps onto a table saw blade. let me tell you it came off there with good distance and velocity.. XD
DynaflowDonnie 1 year ago
@DynaflowDonnie hmmm, I can build a wooden chute like a ski ramp and send pieces down for launching. Too bad my saw is too heavy to turn for aiming.
trex117427 1 year ago
If it were me, I'de stand to the side(side without belt)
I'm planning on building one soon. What did you use to make the drum?
MichaelHerr84 3 years ago