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  • Thanks to you sir,I have been listening to this thing for the last several hours,now officially hooked

  • @ramatirthadasa

    Hi there!

    Thanks for the positive comment. I going to remake this video one day.

    Kostas.

  • did people actually read like that? sounds like it's taking too long. or is it being read in a more musical way? sorry for the question, it's just that my teacher doesn't read like that and I'd like to know which was the real way.

  • @VickyHP

    Hi there,

    In this case, the meter is basically long. That's why it takes too long. I assume that I put a delay effect on my voice, which makes the meter even longer. It was silly, I know. I intend to remake this video in the future. I didnt like it too. Thanks so much for your comment. It was very useful. :)

    Kostas.

  • @kakosuranosx oh I see! :) no, it's not silly, I was just confused. Thank you for your reply, good luck with your next videos.

  • @VickyHP Thank you! :)

  • @Biverix

    Not really. If you know scansion, its a rookie mistake.

    It's nice and all that you know how to pronounce Latin to an extent. But it's really important to know your meters and each of them have different rhythm and recognize the rules of scanning them so that you can read them properly.

  • i was really touched by the accent and emotive devices in your reading, they really tickled my fancy. not gonna lie, i wanted to cry when Icarus died, and i felt that the juxtaposition between your laugh when Daedalus was searching for him, and the pathos we were meant to feel at his desperation was truly effective. An Oscar winning performance

  • At 1:02, I believe you pronounced aera as 2 syllables when it should be 3 syllables.

    What I get is dactyl dactyl spondee dactyl dactyl spondee, since the Metamorphoses is dactylic hexameter(I think?).

  • @APuzzledMind It's a minor mistake, you must have quite an ear to notice something like that :O But it's true, it is 3 syllables. That's why in many medieval texts they spell it "aër", to denote it's not a diphtong :)

  • Você até já tem o costume de escrever os adjetivos pátrios em letras maiúsculas,mesmo escrevendo em português,né? Tal como se escreve em latim,grego,alemão e inglês.Correto? Nas línguas neolatinas isso não é uma regra,ou seja, pode-se ou não escrever os adjetivos pátrios em maiúsculas.

  • @Gabriel5327 Entendi. Penso que sua sugestão é pronunciar Latim, usando a Pronúncia Tradicional Portuguesa, correto? Nela, o T diante de vogal pode soar /c/. Se é isso, faz sentido. Não existia uma única pronúncia. Tinha centenas de sotaques, contribuições estrangeiras. Patientia podia ser pronunciada [paciencia], em outras regiões. Uso a Restaurada pois têm provas escritas. Sabemos que falavam KIKERO E não [cicero], pois estudantes gregos escreveram assim. C soava K portanto, e coisas assim.

  • @kakosuranosx Com quem você aprendeu português? Pois, como disse, seu português é perfeito. Você fala com sotaque ou não?

  • @kakosuranosx Acabei de assistir ao seu vídeo sobre o verbo to be e sua tradução na forma negativa. Percebe como a língua portuguesa é bem mais complexa que a inglesa? Você não precisava ter escrito "você não está" e "vocês não estão", pois na gramática normativa usamos o pronome "vós": "tu estás e vós estás".E você tem sotaque...pensei que grego não tivesse.Quais línguas você fala?

  • @Gabriel5327 Bom, ninguém mais usa ''vós'' no Brasil, com exceção de alguns padres. Ainda assim muitos deles preferem usar ''vocês''. O Tu ainda se usa, mas é mais comum no Sul, vou explicar depois. No Rio de Janeiro e algumas regiões litorâneas, usa tu com terceira pessoa do singular, às vezes, misturado com a forma 'você'. Quando falo Grego, falo com sotaque Grego, quando falo Português falo com sotaque Brasileiro. Faço ambos com perfeição. Sou nascido na Grécia.Mãe Brasileira, pai grego.

  • @kakosuranosx Ok,conheço muito bem as variantes linguísticas que há no meu país.Sou brasileiro.Mas não leve como críticas os meus comentários,são apenas observações.Abraços.

  • @Gabriel5327 Eu ADORO seus comentários, moro mu. Você é bem vindo pra expressar e criticar sua opinião sempre que quiser. Os vídeos são pra serem comentados e criticados. É pra isso que eles servem. Eu sou mente bem mente aberta. Eu realmente não aquele tipo que vai deletar a opinião de alguém seja ela boa ou ruim. Se todo mundo concordasse igual o nosso mundo seria um lugar bem chato. :)

  • @kakosuranosx Já que você gosta, vou continuar dando piteco nos seus vídeos(risos).Sugiro que você publique a tradução de Metamorphoses para o português.Topa?

  • @kakosuranosx Também seria legal,além de editar a tradução de Metamorphoses para o português,postar as fábulas de Esopo,mas em latim mesmo. E talvez até em grego.Abraços.

  • @Gabriel5327 Não sei se as fábulas ficariam boas em Português, preciso testar pra ver se eu gosto. Mas gostei da idéia de fazê-las em Grego e em Latim. No momento, eu me sinto bem conectado ao Português. E quando eu me sinto conectado é difícil desconectar. Eu me desconectei do Latim e a conexão não voltou até hoje. No entanto, gostei da sua idéia. Vou anotar esse pedido na minha lista. :)

    Konstantinos.

  • @kakosuranosx Bueno,yo sugerí que publicaras las Metamorphoses en portugués y las fábulas de Esopo en latín y en griego. Me gustaría oír las Metamorphoses en portugués, si te fuere posible,por supuesto.Abrazos.

  • O latim, embora eu não o fale fluentemente,tem me ajudado muito no aprendizado de outras línguas,neolatinas,especificam­ente.Aprendo italiano e falo espanhol,e quando tenho alguma dúvida (o que sempre ocorre,né?) busco antes saná-la num dicionário de latim que nos dicionários destas duas línguas.Também sei pronunciar o grego,com bastante atenção,claro.Abraços.

  • Então você é grego? Mas seu português é perfeito, parabéns! E ainda ouvi dizer que os gregos,quando aprendem português, não têm sotaque.Eu tenho uma gramática latina bem antiga (da década de 50) caindo aos pedaços (risos) e um dicionário de latim clássico de 2005.

  • Gostei ,mas a pronúncia de "clementia" está errada,pois o T tem som de C.

  • @Gabriel5327 Fico contente que gostou! :) Em relação à pronúncia, eu uso a Restaurada. A Pronúncia Restaurada é baseada em como os Gregos falavam no século I A.C. Quando nós, Gregos, aprendíamos Latim, substituíamos as letras gregas pelas letras latinas, assim sabemos como nós, aproximadamente, falávamos, no período. Desde então, o Grego não mudou muito. Quando Romanos aprendiam Grego faziam o mesmo. Baseado nisso, temos a Pronúncia Restaurada. Nela, T antes de vogal soa /t/. Qual sua fonte?

  • The Romans didn't speak like that.

  • @endgammer Nobody knows for sure how Latin words used to sound like. There's no living native speakers anymore. BUT I know pretty good psychiatrists in L.A. I'm very worry about you. :)

  • discas legere, inepte!

    putes!

  • Belle recitas, Kosta doctissime, sed cur fistulas istas placuerit adhibere haud scio. ne fistularii illi Peruuiani adessent magnopere timebam!

  • In some parts it sounds like some weird native african language. Lol

    Funny shit.

  • @Ovidius89 It's possible! :)

  • PULCHRE! MIHI VALDE PLACET.

  • Perfeito, perfeito, perfeito!

  • Marvelous work :)

    I love Ovidius, i just studied it few time ago at school. We also translated few of Metamorphoses to Italian and it's fantastic.

  • OPVSNATVRAATQVEOPEREMVNITVS

  • Haha An Ancient Roman native speaker! XD

  • Hey Kostas! It would be awsome if you could read Sócrates or Platon in the original to us.

  • Your request is a pleasure to me. :)

  • Haha I bet you love Sócrates.

  • O Sokrátes is the Philosophy itself. If you establish a parallel between him and Philosophy you will see that the place of Philosophy is in the "Agora", the public path, and from then on its political vocation.

  • I like Greek Philosophy.

  • Most part of the Ancient Greek Elite didnt like Sokrátes that much. He wanted to change the 'order', you know. They used to called him "uncomfortable","disturbed", "someone we need to throw out of the Greece", "the unacceptable", they used to say. They laughed at him. His situation was very similar to others situation these days. Most powerful people have never appreciated writers or philosophers. They actually hate them. :)

  • I don't know that much about Latin, but my dad is Italian and I think an Italian would be able to sound like an Ancient Roman.

  • Bruno,no one can sound like an Ancient Roman, not even an Italian. A language can only be alive if it is in a world with others, not like a particular individual but like a part of a social whole of a community. An Italian couldn't sound like a Roman because they don't have the same linguistic tradition of the ancient roman society and the same historical reference that the Ancient Roman used to have.

  • absolutely agree, i'm from Rome, Italy, and you're saying 100% the truth.

  • Latin is a really cool language. You sound really cool in Reconstructed pronunciation. It's pretty much better than the Ecclesiastic pronunciation. I've been practicing the Reconstructed pronunciation for the past few days and I can tell you it definitely makes me sound like a Roman. I will send you a response real soon.

  • 1.Thank you so much for the comment, but let's clear something up. You can use reconstructed pronunciation but you can't sound or write like a Roman. No one can. The reasons are:

  • An Ancient Greek philosopher said is necessary to tell the things like they are. The Latin language was proven in a community of native speakers in a place called Latium and then in most part of the world. More than a half of the world used to speak Latin. ->

  • 3.Language is a physiological and psychological activity because involves ability of using the phonetic organs with you are able to stablish differences of meaning between phonems and graphems when they're represent them in writting like malum and mala, while in relation to the listener, involves the ability of realizing these phonems and perform what it was figured like a reference to the content configured by the speaker

    faced with the articulated phonetic signs.

  • 4. That means language a biological factor. You would have to born in the Ancient Age like a Roman and grew up in a country of native ancient roman speakers to sound like a true Roman. Not even Romanian wich is the most nearest language in comparison to latin is not even close to what Latin maybe was. ;)

  • Greek is also a dead language.

  • Latin language is dead, but Greek is alive. In Greece, We still speak Greek, a Modern Greek, but still Greek. In Italy you don't speak Latin, but Italian. That is a big difference. Why? Italian don't use declensions and the word order does not depend of a semantic hierarchy. The stress syllable depends on the position of the strong syllable, although in Latin it depends of a length pattern.

  • I think I got it. An individual wouldnt be able to sound like a Roman because of the accent? Is that?

  • The accent would be reason enough. How could you sound like a Roman if you don't have the historical reference and the construction of the latin patterns in your mind? Impossible.

  • How many patterns?? :O

  • The Latin patterns can be divided in 28 measures of syllables, 28 combinations between short and long syllables plus the historical reference and the biological factor that we cant have. :D

  • WTF!!! LOL

  • See? I told you! Haha. :D

  • GRAECVSVIRSEDROMANAESTORATIO

  • HUG ME!

  • wow, your accent is musical like the grammars used to teach. how can you do it?

  • Many practice sections. :)

  • It's so great to hear Ovid's primary work in original latin audio. Metamorphoses is one of the best classical sources in my opinion. Great job! Keep up the great work!

  • I like the tales from Metamorphoses. It's a really nice book. Nice job. Keep the great stuff coming!

  • IoI I loved it but can't understand a shit! wheres the fucking subtitles??

  • Well, I totally disagree with Cbert2481. Metamorphoses Selections are much better than Amores. This last one really makes me sleep. I love Ovid's Metamorphoses. It's a great piece of art. I think this is a great video! Nice reading! Beautiful voice! Keep up the great work!

  • Ovid's Metamorphoses in Latin audio! Gracias!

  • I wanna be Orpheus!

  • whoah! that's cool! and i wanna be Eunicide XD

  • hahaha it's Eurydice, stupid! aw jesus you dumb LOL

  • if i am dumb.... YOU are gay! XD

  • haha i really appreciate his gay poems. :D

  • Excelente qualidade de vídeo e áudio. Eu amo as Metamorfoses de Ovídio, mas ainda assim prefiro Amores. Obrigada por compartilhar seus vídeos! Beijos e abraços dos seus amigos Greco-Brasileiros!

  • Cool! Classical E-Texts available now on Youtube. I'm not use to study that much, but I really enjoy his accent. :P

  • Ovid was a great Roman poet. I love him.

  • Latin is beautiful! But I preffer Greek. I'm still a very beginner. I only know the mais greetings hahaha. But I had a blast when I heard your imitation of Dedalus crying hahahaha. Hilarious! XD

  • Thanks a lot for your support. I appreciated. :)

  • I recently subscribed to Icarus magazine. Theres lots of hot gay muscle studs dancing and having a great time together at the Greek resorts.

  • Odoiporia se topo prosunhmatos ...panhguri

  • Eisai malakias Kwsta...

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