Chris, I went by Alfonso's Holster Company today to pick up a new cross-draw holster for SASS and Omar Pineda, Alfonso's son, and I got talking about your video. He thinks you are doing a great job!!! Good Shootin'
Go to fastdraw.org. You'll find a listing of all active clubs in both CFDA and WFDA...the two organizations have different rules and styles, but if you do a bit of reading, you'll quickly determine which you'ld prefer.
Haha- the bass is of Tyrolian origin, circa 1880-1900 a.d.
It must have been either in a school or a touring company in the early 20th century, as there a signatures scratched on the back, one dated 1927, the other, 1932.
BTW, in Vegas, keeping my powder dry is easy...it's keeping my instruments humidified that's tough! LOL.
hi, i really like your vids. i want to get into fast draw. so i was wondering what kind of gun should i buy? i dont want to spend more than about $400. Also i want it to be a newer gun. what would you recommend? -thankyou!
Alfonso's of Hollywood makes exact replicas of Eastwood's rigs, with the same "rough out" leather. It is indeed a beautiful rig Some of Eastwood's rigs were made by Andy Anderson and were called the "Walk and Draw" rig. It had a steel lined shank, and needed no leg tie-down. I think that there is another maker who offers the original Anderson W&D models as well.
Just search the names that I mentioned, and you will indeed find where you can have one custom made to fit you.
if you can please help me the base pin bushing keeps pushing forward when i fire my 357 mag single action i try to push it back in but it keeps coming forward when i fire i think this may be because 'm not pushing far enough back but if you can shed light on this please reply
You didn't mention the gun type, and I'm not a gunsmith, but...
It could be as simple as the spring on the plunger that retains the pin. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Contact the manufacturer of your gun, or see a good 'smith locally.
See my other video, "Fun with the Single Action Colt" for a better description of the difference between a more authentic rig and the fully modern fast draw rig in these vids. There's a world of difference- fast draw rigs were patterned to look like some of the Hollywood type holsters, but are far more modern and complex. Things like steel lining in the boot, shank, and hip plate, are innovations for the SPORT of Fast Draw, and nothing else. Authentic style rigs are better for all-around use.
Chris; who is the manufacturer of the holster and belt you're wearing in your great video series? i LOVE IT! Thanks for the very detailed instruction.
If you mean choosing between the calibers in a single action, my preference would be the .45 since it's quite a bit lighter (smaller holes, more steel). Funny though, most of my live ammo shooting is indeed with .38/.357, but that's in double-action guns. Both my SA's are in .45LC .
Thank you very much. The videos are great. The information for the first timers like me is right on the money,
Do you prefer the 4 5/8" BBL or the 5 1/2" ?
Right now I had my eyes on Ruger, with some Cimmaron to follow. In the Ruger line, do you like the N. Vaquero or you go for the adj. sights in the Blackhawk?
I use the 4 5/8" New Vaquero in .45LC. (lightest, handiest gun/cal)
Fixed sights always on fast draw guns...othewise you're sure to tear your hand up catching it on a sight.
You'll find the Ruger much stronger than the Colt/clones, although some like the feel of the Colt better. Where there used to be QUITE a difference between a SAA and a Ruger Blackhawk/SuperBH, The NewVaquero is much closer to the weight, balance, and grip angle of the SAA, while being much stronger internally.
you mentioned that the Ruger Vaquero would tear itself up with hard use. I always thought the Rugers were pretty tough. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that I would like to use with your training. Do I need to do anything to it; springs, turning and the like?
Rugers are quite strong, but fast draw involves stresses for which it was not designed. The main areas are from momentum of the heavy cylinder on the bolt, frame and cyl. notches, and damage to the pawl that indexes the cylinder from an overcock stress.
I don't have the space here to cover it completely, but I have described everything fully in PMs...check you inbox shortly.
Anyone else interested, PM me and I'll send a copy of the info.
You'll probably want a Ruger New Vaquero in .45 Long Colt caliber, with the 4 5/8" bbl. It's exactly the gun in the video series. you can get in blue or stainless finish.
There's also a very active Fast Draw club just south of you, in Fernley, NV. PM me if you have other questions.
Love your videos Chris. Very informative and quite entertaining. I have a question I would like to ask: I am thinking about getting into "Six Gun" shooting. What model and caliber do you think would be good for a beginner? Jennifer in Reno
I'd like to, but I have no video that I'm particularly proud of, or is representative of what I do. Audio, sure. No good video as yet. My standards are just too damn high LOL!
That particular upright is a Tyrolian bass made circa 1880's-90's. My other is an Italian bass which is being restored at the moment. The electrics are a '66 Jazz bass, and a fretless clone with a graphite neck and light body.
I don't own a Navy .36, but do have a 3rd Model Dragoon- at 66oz. empty, fast draw is out! LOL
Seriously though, one must NOT use "fast draw" methods with these. The cylinders will skip, caps can also fall into the lockwork if the muzzle is not elevated between shots, etc etc.
The Navy is superb in every category relative to its type, but only real-world, conventional (and safe) methods of drawing and firing should be used, i.e. draw-cock-fire in sub 1sec. In "fast draw", we're chasing a 1/4 sec.
This is quite impractical with the ol' Navy .36. Nonetheless, it's a great piece of history and a great gun to own.
I had to look them up too, and they're sure beauties! 100% made in the U.S.A too, not an Italian replica. It is, however a Colt design. Even if it is the finest example of the original design (which it may indeed be), it would NOT hold up to any amount of fast draw, but should certainly function perfectly for CAS or any normal shooting that doesn't exceed what it was designed to do. Otherwise, send it to one of the 3 "Bobs" (Graham, James or Munden) for fast draw mods.
Is Bob James known as "Badlands"? If so I think he was on a sharpshooter special on the History Channel. Since then I've been trying to remember the name. One Kick ass gunsmith.
I looked at the Heritage-Piettas from Italy, assembled here. Retail ~20% less than a Ruger New Vaquero. In any case, if you don't have it modified, it WILL break. I've seen Colt clones break down in a week just from thumbing. Rugers are much stronger but will still show probs fairly quickly. None should be fanned out of the box. 'Smithing costs as much or more than the gun, and good leather is required and expensive. Save until you can do it right, or what you do spend will be wasted. Good Luck.
first off this series was great !! i cant wait to see more! but i had a question ?? have you ever shot a Heritage rough rider? im a college student so im short on cash but i want to get into fast draw any information about this gun would help... thank you
you can just tell from that short three minute video that this guy is a class act.
thanks for taking to time to learn us all up:)
ChromeArty 8 months ago
you can just tell from that short three minute video that this guy is a class act.
ChromeArty 8 months ago
you rock
evilet1111 8 months ago
Dude your gun belt is sweet!
ManningArmory 9 months ago
@robertsfunny1995 If You draw first, then you are a murderer. If He draws first it's self defence.
maxergud 9 months ago
@maxergud So what if I don't draw my gun at all?
robertsfunny1995 9 months ago
Can you just tell me one thing? What's the point??
robertsfunny1995 10 months ago
@robertsfunny1995 If you have to even ask, then it's certainly pointless to attempt to explain. LOL!
ChrisGordan 9 months ago 9
@robertsfunny1995
Good see any old style cowboy movie- like "Tombstone" with Val Kilmer. Then go to a Cowboy Shoot at your local gun range.
Then if you've got the balls? Try it the next time you'r ewith your paintball buddies,,,,,without armor
MrTrailltrader 8 months ago
@robertsfunny1995 ITS ON YOURE HEAD ROBERT
phxxr650r 3 months ago
Chris, I went by Alfonso's Holster Company today to pick up a new cross-draw holster for SASS and Omar Pineda, Alfonso's son, and I got talking about your video. He thinks you are doing a great job!!! Good Shootin'
Soledad
SASS Life Member
zbestusa 1 year ago
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zbestusa 1 year ago
Okay, so where in So Cal can someone learn to do this? Are there any women's fast draw clubs?
mysticpluck8 1 year ago
@mysticpluck8
Go to fastdraw.org. You'll find a listing of all active clubs in both CFDA and WFDA...the two organizations have different rules and styles, but if you do a bit of reading, you'll quickly determine which you'ld prefer.
ChrisGordan 1 year ago
@mysticpluck8 Accually, i live in SoCal and there quite a bit of fast draw action going on. Even local small clubs.
jdducut83 2 months ago
it looks like you're ready to quickdraw just the way you're standing right from the beginning
nick191088 1 year ago
thanks for doing this video I haven't found many intructional videos for doing fast draw and your video was one of the most useful
iknowmy3table 1 year ago
what exactly has been done to the "tuned" gun?
motorhead992 1 year ago
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woodbuster1 1 year ago
Great vids, It finally came to me who you remind me of.... Roger Miller! Noticed the upright bass, what brand is it?
Keep your powder dry!
paleoman1999 1 year ago
Haha- the bass is of Tyrolian origin, circa 1880-1900 a.d.
It must have been either in a school or a touring company in the early 20th century, as there a signatures scratched on the back, one dated 1927, the other, 1932.
BTW, in Vegas, keeping my powder dry is easy...it's keeping my instruments humidified that's tough! LOL.
ChrisGordan 1 year ago
haha, i hav a original 19th century colt SAA, but i dunno how to use it. someone help me.
153masterchief 1 year ago
@153masterchief Whatever you do, DON"T use that ol' Colt for this stuff...it's much too valuable.
ChrisGordan 1 year ago
@153masterchief
Obvious troll is obvious.
opmike343 1 year ago
GREAT VID JUST STARTING TO GET INTO GUNS ... SO WHAT'S A GOOD GUN TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS
XXSUPER17XX 1 year ago
I wish I had a time machine so I could go back to the Old West.
DeltaBravo1216 1 year ago
i think im going to get a ruger new vaquero .357 cus it's cheaper to shoot. about how much would this cost?
MrSkyeman1 1 year ago
i think im going to get a ruger new vaquero .357 cus it's cheaper to shoot. about how much would this cost?
MrSkyeman1 1 year ago
hi, i really like your vids. i want to get into fast draw. so i was wondering what kind of gun should i buy? i dont want to spend more than about $400. Also i want it to be a newer gun. what would you recommend? -thankyou!
MrSkyeman1 1 year ago
How 'bout the Ruger New Vacquero I used in the video?
Caliber, .45 Long Colt, with a 4 5/8" barrel. Don't forget that good leather can cost as much as the gun.
ChrisGordan 1 year ago
nice target behind :)
tobitobito 2 years ago
Nice video. All I want to know is where can I get a holster like the one Clint Eastwood wears in his spaghetti westerns?
slickslack7000 2 years ago
Alfonso's of Hollywood makes exact replicas of Eastwood's rigs, with the same "rough out" leather. It is indeed a beautiful rig Some of Eastwood's rigs were made by Andy Anderson and were called the "Walk and Draw" rig. It had a steel lined shank, and needed no leg tie-down. I think that there is another maker who offers the original Anderson W&D models as well.
Just search the names that I mentioned, and you will indeed find where you can have one custom made to fit you.
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
Just found the Anderson W&D's (made from the original patterns...
"spaghettiwesternreplicas" dotcom ...$500
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
dnegel231 on ebay, custom make them for only 199.99 ,
he also makes a replica of John Wayne's rig
i heard his rigs are amazing quality for the price
Grasshopper257 2 years ago
if you can please help me the base pin bushing keeps pushing forward when i fire my 357 mag single action i try to push it back in but it keeps coming forward when i fire i think this may be because 'm not pushing far enough back but if you can shed light on this please reply
aerodynamicband 2 years ago
You didn't mention the gun type, and I'm not a gunsmith, but...
It could be as simple as the spring on the plunger that retains the pin. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Contact the manufacturer of your gun, or see a good 'smith locally.
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
sorry its a hawes international and i'm not sure if they still make revolvers
aerodynamicband 2 years ago
Were these holsters fabrications of hollywood? mainly the drop holster that you are wearing at the moment
or did they really exist back then and used
ThePurcy 2 years ago
See my other video, "Fun with the Single Action Colt" for a better description of the difference between a more authentic rig and the fully modern fast draw rig in these vids. There's a world of difference- fast draw rigs were patterned to look like some of the Hollywood type holsters, but are far more modern and complex. Things like steel lining in the boot, shank, and hip plate, are innovations for the SPORT of Fast Draw, and nothing else. Authentic style rigs are better for all-around use.
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
Thank you very much chris have a good day
ThePurcy 2 years ago
Thanks for your advise on holsters. I'll visit the site and possibly place an order. Thanks again and by the way, you are an EXCELLENT teacher!!!!
genelev4273 2 years ago
Chris; who is the manufacturer of the holster and belt you're wearing in your great video series? i LOVE IT! Thanks for the very detailed instruction.
GENE
genelev4273 2 years ago
Alfonso's of Hollywood. Their website only shows a small fraction of what they make. The quality is unsurpassed. "alfonsosgunleather" dotcom.
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
Chris, what is your preference if you were to choose between 357 and 45LC? Historic significance apart, of course.
45Paulie 2 years ago
If you mean choosing between the calibers in a single action, my preference would be the .45 since it's quite a bit lighter (smaller holes, more steel). Funny though, most of my live ammo shooting is indeed with .38/.357, but that's in double-action guns. Both my SA's are in .45LC .
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
Thank you very much. The videos are great. The information for the first timers like me is right on the money,
Do you prefer the 4 5/8" BBL or the 5 1/2" ?
Right now I had my eyes on Ruger, with some Cimmaron to follow. In the Ruger line, do you like the N. Vaquero or you go for the adj. sights in the Blackhawk?
45Paulie 2 years ago
I use the 4 5/8" New Vaquero in .45LC. (lightest, handiest gun/cal)
Fixed sights always on fast draw guns...othewise you're sure to tear your hand up catching it on a sight.
You'll find the Ruger much stronger than the Colt/clones, although some like the feel of the Colt better. Where there used to be QUITE a difference between a SAA and a Ruger Blackhawk/SuperBH, The NewVaquero is much closer to the weight, balance, and grip angle of the SAA, while being much stronger internally.
ChrisGordan 2 years ago
I managed to find some Vaqueros and Blackhawks to compare. I found somebody that would let me tr them out.
Thank you for the advice again.
45Paulie 2 years ago
E o tipo de revolver,apenas peacemaker?
ttransponder 2 years ago
you have helped me. Extremely. this is a great tutorial series. i gotta upload me doing it one day
TheHitmenMGC 2 years ago
Look out!! Killer guitar behind you!
hornstra1 2 years ago
Its a double-bass. Fail.
midnightstalkerman 2 years ago
thats one awesome shirt.
timoteiocelot 2 years ago
considering my parents inability to let me buy even a bb gun, im practicing with a nerf gun... doesnt work at all
shadedude123 3 years ago
have you ever shot yourself ?
craftycards 3 years ago
Not lately...LOL!!
Besides, I'm tryin' to quit! :-))
Seriously, though- don't do this stuff with live ammo, ok??!!
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Great video! Thanks!
StantheGunman 3 years ago
thanks Chris I will look for that info
morgan19555 3 years ago
you mentioned that the Ruger Vaquero would tear itself up with hard use. I always thought the Rugers were pretty tough. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that I would like to use with your training. Do I need to do anything to it; springs, turning and the like?
morgan19555 3 years ago
Rugers are quite strong, but fast draw involves stresses for which it was not designed. The main areas are from momentum of the heavy cylinder on the bolt, frame and cyl. notches, and damage to the pawl that indexes the cylinder from an overcock stress.
I don't have the space here to cover it completely, but I have described everything fully in PMs...check you inbox shortly.
Anyone else interested, PM me and I'll send a copy of the info.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
You'll probably want a Ruger New Vaquero in .45 Long Colt caliber, with the 4 5/8" bbl. It's exactly the gun in the video series. you can get in blue or stainless finish.
There's also a very active Fast Draw club just south of you, in Fernley, NV. PM me if you have other questions.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Love your videos Chris. Very informative and quite entertaining. I have a question I would like to ask: I am thinking about getting into "Six Gun" shooting. What model and caliber do you think would be good for a beginner? Jennifer in Reno
nevadajennifer 3 years ago
Chris, I have become your big-time fan!!!!!!!!!! You are a phenomenon!
freedomwarrior43 3 years ago
How often does that upright get used?
MrMachi 3 years ago
Every day, and several nights per week! I'm a professional musician in Las Vegas.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
That's awesome. That thing looks pretty sweet. How come you don't have any music videos from your shows up on youtube?
MrMachi 3 years ago
I'd like to, but I have no video that I'm particularly proud of, or is representative of what I do. Audio, sure. No good video as yet. My standards are just too damn high LOL!
That particular upright is a Tyrolian bass made circa 1880's-90's. My other is an Italian bass which is being restored at the moment. The electrics are a '66 Jazz bass, and a fretless clone with a graphite neck and light body.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Have you got any Colt Navy Revolver? If you have could you add fast draw lesson video with Colt Navy? Because i gonna buy Colt Navy. :D
vesahirppa88 3 years ago
I don't own a Navy .36, but do have a 3rd Model Dragoon- at 66oz. empty, fast draw is out! LOL
Seriously though, one must NOT use "fast draw" methods with these. The cylinders will skip, caps can also fall into the lockwork if the muzzle is not elevated between shots, etc etc.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
The Navy is superb in every category relative to its type, but only real-world, conventional (and safe) methods of drawing and firing should be used, i.e. draw-cock-fire in sub 1sec. In "fast draw", we're chasing a 1/4 sec.
This is quite impractical with the ol' Navy .36. Nonetheless, it's a great piece of history and a great gun to own.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Wow, fantastic, thanks.
spitgalore 3 years ago
Brilliant, thankyou so much!
mobytoss 3 years ago
Do you know anything about how the US Firearms SAAs function out of of the box?
DoctorChisel 3 years ago
I had to look them up too, and they're sure beauties! 100% made in the U.S.A too, not an Italian replica. It is, however a Colt design. Even if it is the finest example of the original design (which it may indeed be), it would NOT hold up to any amount of fast draw, but should certainly function perfectly for CAS or any normal shooting that doesn't exceed what it was designed to do. Otherwise, send it to one of the 3 "Bobs" (Graham, James or Munden) for fast draw mods.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
No, That was Bill Oglesby, (Badlands Bill). Bob goes by the Arizona Thumber.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Is Bob James known as "Badlands"? If so I think he was on a sharpshooter special on the History Channel. Since then I've been trying to remember the name. One Kick ass gunsmith.
BullRonin 3 years ago
I looked at the Heritage-Piettas from Italy, assembled here. Retail ~20% less than a Ruger New Vaquero. In any case, if you don't have it modified, it WILL break. I've seen Colt clones break down in a week just from thumbing. Rugers are much stronger but will still show probs fairly quickly. None should be fanned out of the box. 'Smithing costs as much or more than the gun, and good leather is required and expensive. Save until you can do it right, or what you do spend will be wasted. Good Luck.
ChrisGordan 3 years ago
Thank you ! keep up the good work
allin31155 3 years ago
first off this series was great !! i cant wait to see more! but i had a question ?? have you ever shot a Heritage rough rider? im a college student so im short on cash but i want to get into fast draw any information about this gun would help... thank you
allin31155 3 years ago
Chris, Nice video you are a good teacher.
TombstoneMorgan 3 years ago
Great series,,your videos have made me decide to take up fast draw,, thanks,,Ill let ya know if i shoot my toe off,,,lol
1880TimeTraveler 3 years ago 2