I work around DC-3's in the Alaskan bush. They have come in on our strip with only 1000ft useable(there insurance say they need 3000ft). Its no joke at all (there was another DC-3 flying for us that said its too dangerous to land at our strip). Pilots uses some crazy/scary off airport techniques. He will come in with a long, flat, and low and I mean dragging landing gear though the trees and then throttles back with no flaps letting it drop below trees and sets it down in a 3 point landing.
I don’t know if they recommend 3P landings in the DC3 or not but I think I would have done one for a short field. Power off to a light flare over the threshold, then start retracting flaps within GE about 1 foot off the ground to increase AOA, kill all lift and maximize braking with full back pressure. Just me though haha, now I want to go fly a tailwheel lol!
I have an RC plane that is a scale model of a DC-3. It's apparently very accurate because the thing scares the hell out of me when it lands, because of the tendency to come in nose down, I've scraped the props up already after just 7 flights.
I've been in that one when i was a kid!! I belive it was back in 1995@Säve airport, Gothenburg, Sweden! i still have a photo of it taken by my dad (as he worked there at the time) somewhere at my parents house! :)
@Pjuskos I can confirm what you are saying is indeed very correct....
This aircraft is a DC-3 called both "I'm here now!" and it's also called by the original name "Congo Queen"
The owner of this aircraft is the Captain "Åke Janssons"
Aircraft registration: 9Q-CUK
I saw it in real life about 3 months ago, at Eslöv's Aeroclub.. And it was absolutely such a joy to watch it fly and Captain Åke did some precision demonstration this time as well.. Thanks for this video Pjuskos!
I routinley operated off 1,600 foot strips in 3's. I always had the elevator against the up stops at touch down at around 55 knots and had to ad power to taxi off. And that was with drum brakes in the C-53 and spot brakes in the C-47. I have been in a 3 with another pilot flying during a tail high short field wheel landing and it seemed completely unessasary, hamhanded and somehow undignified to treat the Old Gal like that. Oh well to each his own.
Well, is that really so much shorter then a regular 3 point landing? The landing speed seems alot higher then on a 3 pointer, but hell, i bet he knows what he is doing!
The thing is that you can brake much harder when you have no AoA. You kill all lift and put all the weight on the main wheels. Three pointers are not recommended with a DC-3 and besides that it is more diffucult to judge exactlly when the wheels will hit the ground
I migth join FSE Economy when time permits. Right now I have very little time for flightsimming.
I can assure you that this pilot knows what he's doing. He has 45 years of experience with DC-3 / C-47 and I would gladly put my wife beside him in the cockpit. (Yes I love her very much)
If you look closely he actually locks the wheels and slides on the grass. The tail comes down as soon as he release the brake pressure and the wheels starts rolling again.
Well Pjuskos, hopefully you can join FSE at some point when time permits. there's a load of real life pilots on thre and simmers too, Great place to be.
I work around DC-3's in the Alaskan bush. They have come in on our strip with only 1000ft useable(there insurance say they need 3000ft). Its no joke at all (there was another DC-3 flying for us that said its too dangerous to land at our strip). Pilots uses some crazy/scary off airport techniques. He will come in with a long, flat, and low and I mean dragging landing gear though the trees and then throttles back with no flaps letting it drop below trees and sets it down in a 3 point landing.
jeepjake16 9 hours ago
I don’t know if they recommend 3P landings in the DC3 or not but I think I would have done one for a short field. Power off to a light flare over the threshold, then start retracting flaps within GE about 1 foot off the ground to increase AOA, kill all lift and maximize braking with full back pressure. Just me though haha, now I want to go fly a tailwheel lol!
keithacoustic1 4 days ago
bueno
RutinaRottis 2 weeks ago
Just me thinking out loud, but isn't there more drag with a three point landing, (three wheels, plus the nose high attitude?
deweypug 2 months ago
Also had the flaps retracting after touch down to lose lift/better braking. Great landing.
smokingws6 3 months ago
I have an RC plane that is a scale model of a DC-3. It's apparently very accurate because the thing scares the hell out of me when it lands, because of the tendency to come in nose down, I've scraped the props up already after just 7 flights.
7jsm7 3 months ago
I've been in that one when i was a kid!! I belive it was back in 1995@Säve airport, Gothenburg, Sweden! i still have a photo of it taken by my dad (as he worked there at the time) somewhere at my parents house! :)
kingnorlen 3 months ago
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kingnorlen 3 months ago
Greasy 3 master at work peeps.
mdb831 3 months ago
@Pjuskos I can confirm what you are saying is indeed very correct....
This aircraft is a DC-3 called both "I'm here now!" and it's also called by the original name "Congo Queen"
The owner of this aircraft is the Captain "Åke Janssons"
Aircraft registration: 9Q-CUK
I saw it in real life about 3 months ago, at Eslöv's Aeroclub.. And it was absolutely such a joy to watch it fly and Captain Åke did some precision demonstration this time as well.. Thanks for this video Pjuskos!
simreviews 4 months ago
Brilliant - just enough pressure on the brakes to keep the aircraft on its main gear. Superb feel for the aircraft.
ChrizRockster 4 months ago
w w w.vallentuna-aviators.se/en/
voderick 4 months ago
Wow! That's a master!
ChicaWolverina 4 months ago
WOW
lszlpesti 4 months ago
I do not agree on Full Brakes. That is not correct. Limited brakes with some power. Then full brakes.
michaelpilot1000 4 months ago
I have seen him doing aerobatics with that plane, He is quite good.
MaskinJunior 5 months ago
How many rotten tomatos can you stuff in a DC3 ?
215jami 5 months ago
What if you need to abort the landing? does the engines come right back on at full thrust?
loh1110 5 months ago
easy to do if there is no load in the airplane...well executed though
stenic2 6 months ago
Também poderia ter feito um pouso três pontos, vindo com velocidade próxima à de stall, consumindo pouca pista.
TheAdolex60 6 months ago
Esta´se vendo que é um piloto com muita prática en DC-3, e o avião é robusto.
TheAdolex60 6 months ago
Wow, thats short landing. How long field DC3 needs for take off? Empty and fully loaded.
Jelen226 6 months ago
Proper!
in4merATP 8 months ago
Nice landing
trilhasMTZ 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This film mus thave been recorded at the Wheels &Wing event in Varberg, Sweden.
The small airfield cafe is a lovely place to visit
rcsailing 10 months ago
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rcsailing 10 months ago
are this in sweden?
acholm33 1 year ago
I routinley operated off 1,600 foot strips in 3's. I always had the elevator against the up stops at touch down at around 55 knots and had to ad power to taxi off. And that was with drum brakes in the C-53 and spot brakes in the C-47. I have been in a 3 with another pilot flying during a tail high short field wheel landing and it seemed completely unessasary, hamhanded and somehow undignified to treat the Old Gal like that. Oh well to each his own.
robertwaldo 1 year ago
that is so sweet, this is one of my dream a/c to fly!
gilz16 1 year ago
Well, is that really so much shorter then a regular 3 point landing? The landing speed seems alot higher then on a 3 pointer, but hell, i bet he knows what he is doing!
JesperA86 1 year ago
@JesperA86
The thing is that you can brake much harder when you have no AoA. You kill all lift and put all the weight on the main wheels. Three pointers are not recommended with a DC-3 and besides that it is more diffucult to judge exactlly when the wheels will hit the ground
Pjuskos 1 year ago 3
Wow! The Propeller shure gets close to the ground in 0:22!
BlazingPuppies 2 years ago
There's at least two inches of space :)
This guy has been running an airline in Congo for many years and is airmanship and knowledge about DC-3 is simply amazing.
Pjuskos 2 years ago 3
That was SOME landing!! Great up thanks.
stevies5 2 years ago
You're welcome ! The DC-3 and it's pilot have obviously no idea what's written in the POH.
I've been watching his short field landings for many years and they are always exactly the same give or take a few feet depending on wind conditions
Pjuskos 2 years ago
Well the pilot has huge cojones and his pax must believe there is a god lol!!!
stevies5 2 years ago
Gotta love to the imperious expression the a/c takes on after it drops the tail..
"Ok job done, now why are you standing taking photos?"
Originally got pointed here from a flightsim site called FSE economy. Avid simmers and real pilots live there.
Wil visit this many times, thanks again.
stevie
stevies5 2 years ago
I migth join FSE Economy when time permits. Right now I have very little time for flightsimming.
I can assure you that this pilot knows what he's doing. He has 45 years of experience with DC-3 / C-47 and I would gladly put my wife beside him in the cockpit. (Yes I love her very much)
If you look closely he actually locks the wheels and slides on the grass. The tail comes down as soon as he release the brake pressure and the wheels starts rolling again.
Pjuskos 2 years ago
Well Pjuskos, hopefully you can join FSE at some point when time permits. there's a load of real life pilots on thre and simmers too, Great place to be.
Final thanks on your vid, I really enjoy it.
Stevie
stevies5 2 years ago
Görtuff!
fredlazer 2 years ago
Lindo Pouso !!
ArturRibeiro99 2 years ago