Support/Appoggio concept p.2 : Why do we forse? by Franco Tenelli

[MedicoTenor]

Thank you Maestro!!! Your masterclasses are to much useful to me. Your explanations are very clear and most of all, you give the examples and demonstrations yourself. Only making what you say I have improved my technique significantly. Thank you very much. I really think that no other teacher has the concepts so clear as you have. All the best toy you from Chile.

[Kaleda100]

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[montrubio]

Thanks a lot Maestro, when can you teach us how to achieve better hearing?, I have a hearing problem so I hear more with my left hear

[Pagliaccio1970]

So confused......like you said every teacher says something different....being an engineer by trade i like to deal in the tangible....i have found that singing is anything but....a question though....do singing or practicing the scales time and time again strengthen your support? One teacher told me to breate outside in....where everyone else has told me to push out....as i said very confusing!!!

[TenelliVoiceGuru]

well, confusion is a part of learning classical technique. Confusion comes out of singers personal sensation verbalised as the only true one and the effort to make his students feel the same.

Personal sensations are very important to learn voice t. for any singer.

Student should pay more attention on his(her) personal sensations and not the teacher's, while teacher gives him a feed back on the produced sound.

when a teacher with a good ear and experience gives you OK, try to memorise how

[TenelliVoiceGuru]

(Continued) how you personaly feel.

Forget about teachers sensations, learn your own.

Listening or learning from another singers sensations, no matter how good he is, is like blind musicians teach another blind musicians:)

don't trust anybody's sensations but yours and you will save yourself from a big trouble

Franco

[sunrider59]

I'm agree. Finally after learning we sing as good as understand and feel us self.

[johndabomb44]

Whoops, I just figured out im straining because im pushing so much air out its drying my throat. Id still like your advice Mr. Tenelli.

[johndabomb44]

If you can control how much air you push out, can you acheive higher notes without straining?

My range is from G2 to A flat 5, but I can go higher only if i use up alot more air. but it sounds like im shouting more than I am singing. It doesnt put any strain on my throat but I dont know if this is productive to building vocal range.

[AntW11]

@johndabomb44 Hi John,

if you use up alot more air and it becomes shouty, it means you are forcing too much air through the vocal chords. By supporting properly, controlling the exhalation, you will not need any more air, if anything you will need less, to sing higher. Good luck, and remember, sing from your support, not your throat.

[garanss]

Franco, thank you for the lesson.

Vocal is my hobby and after an year of education I learn abdominal breathing and it helped me to get rid of different wrongs with my respiratory system.

Plus I've learnt to sing loudly, but I think that I've lost my interesting individual timbre and ability to be heard in light voice. In fact people don't like this loud and sharp singing.

I am in doubt - to continue or to stop for a while. I am not sure if I need this opera voice my teacher said I have.

[garanss]

OK,

according to this clip I need to develop the support technics. It will help to sing easy and to have different variations in loudness with a good timbre.

Bu what is the way to develop the support technics?

[TenelliVoiceGuru]

smart singers, and ther are not so many:),

sing on the support and not on the throat.

all we have to learn about the throat is how to open it(yawning-zevok) and keep it unchanged-that's a condition for the stable acoustic ambiance and therfore for consistant timbre. Support should serve this condition

[marcelyuda]

@TenelliVoiceGuru OK, so if I'm not mistaken, the first goal when we want to have the right appogio technique is to sing with open throat ( - in a relaxed position), and only rely on our support ( diaphragm ) ? Is it correct? Thank you for your response.

[444age]

Well...hear I am not forcing at all...and I felt the song required a melancholic, soft tonality. I had problems as you can hear.

watch?v=HBEh2NSbgYo

(age 56)

[neiljagessar]

That's a great introductory talk on pushing the voice or forcing the voice too much. My voice is probably a lighter lyric voice and I tend to force causing tiredness of the throat. I think my problem is the competition between the vocal production mechanism and the ear. The higher I go (past F#) it seems the less I hear my own voice and I think I compensate more to hear the voice by forcing. With me it happens without my being conscious of it! What do you suggest to guard against this problem?

[TenelliVoiceGuru]

there is nothing you can do immediatly, all singers with no exeption suffer from not hearing themselves properly.

You have to develope so called vocal ear that is based on sensation rather then on what you hear.

I will address this problem later with some excercises helping to achieve better hearing

[reynaldomonterrey]

thank u again,maestro!!!

[sunrider59]

If I'm right you gave as example a history of Di Stefano when he has changed his repertoire from lyric to dramatic and then got problems with a voice. Is it right?

[TenelliVoiceGuru]

Not only him:) but he is a sriking example