Francescatti plays Tchaikovsky VC 1st Mov (1/2)

[mesoman4jpr]

Amazing bowing and continuity....

[mesoman4jpr]

Utter perfection....

[moldyoreo]

What a PERFECT tempo! Most younger soloists today take it so super slow. The older generations knew how to make this piece speak, not induce the listener into coma.

[GeorgeMaj15]

The 5:50~ tutti part is so slow! I was enjoying his elaborate method to increase the tempo, but I felt the orchestra could continue it. Fabulous performance though :) the 6:30 variation made it all worth while.

[Lactoris1]

The greatest! Zino Francescatti's family French and Italian from Marseilles area were violinists for generations and preserved traditions from influence of Paganini.

He mastered the Russian technique innovations + is the greatest interpreter of this Tchaikowsky violin conerto. Generally I like to hear contemporary musicians perform older masterpieces, but in this case I can't stand to hear anyone else perform this one.

[cfbox]

meraviglioso!

[OriginalMoonbeam]

But..you are fun to play with CODs..I respect your opinion...even though I am right :) (laughing!) Have a good day...I love Kogan as much as you do...I just love Zino too and love to mess with you.

[calloffthedogs]

Moon, I still love ya.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

But the question still remains, will you still love me tomorrow????

[mesoman4]

Tchaikovsky was a Romantic..Oisttrakh was a Romantic

........the first time Oistrakh played Tchaikovsky's violin concert the composer interrupted him climbed on the stage and with the piano there corrected the red faced Oistrakh who made this his favourite violin piece.....Kogan was associated with post WW2 Soviet Russia and was not a

Romantic.......his style was direct, unerring and had a darker sinister overtone like his Guanarius........

[calloffthedogs]

Tchaikovsky passed away before Oistrakh was born. You are thinking of Prokofiev (I think). There is a story where Prokofiev publicly scolded Oistrakh for playing one of his pieces wrong.

[Powerglide1A]

My absolute favorite. No one has ever played this piece better; the combination of deep passion and effortless precision is just breathtaking. 6:54 kills me every time.

[sivery70914]

Kreisler, Francescatti, Kogan and Heifetz are my four favorite virtuosos.

[themusicdr]

this not only rivals but surpasses heifetz. also love the kogan version

[Violinjunky]

Ok..this is really wonderful (to my friend Moonbeam below who loves Francescatti) The more I I have listen the more I totally get it. 6.44 is SO, so wonderful!

[OriginalMoonbeam]

where he marked "favorite part" I have yet to hear another violinist who plays this even close to Zino!

[calloffthedogs]

Kogan plays that part "at speed" too and yet it retains the same level of sensitivity as Zino's rendition. Oistrakh is a master at that phrase too as is Perlman. Gotta love Zino though!

[OriginalMoonbeam]

I respectfully ask that you go back and double check these Masters just before the cadenza and the cadenza..first listen to Francescatti who actually picks up pace, next listen to Kogan who does an excellent job, you'll get a visual on Oistarkh because there is a video, his bowing at the frog is just too aggressive and there is loss of tempo and Perlman totally it down to a crawl, at least in the one I listened to. Heifetz isn't quite as beautifully"articulated" Kogan is closest to Zino

[calloffthedogs]

I did as you asked. Isnt it interesting how these out of this world violinists all have a different approach to this passage. I think that they all play it wonderfully well - albeit differently. Persoanlly i like Kogan the best. His vibrato a tighter and faster than Zino's.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

I agree Kogan does a brilliant job..he was my 2nd choice and very close to Zino..and yes, the vibrato is very different. And I will agree, all do a marvelous job...Kogan and Zino most closley mirror one another even though they have a different "sound". We have a group working on this VC (for GREAT fun-hysterical laughing, but we have actually made headway) In our listening experiment everyone chose Zino--we do this periodically with different VC..loads of fun and great insights.

[calloffthedogs]

I can pick out Zino's sound anywhere. BTW he does a fabulous job on Vitali Chaccone and the Walton VC. I'm sure you are aware of this though.

[calloffthedogs]

Just for kicks, listen to Ivry Gitlis on this piece - WILD!!

[OriginalMoonbeam]

he is always a piece of work..I enjoy listening to him, really like his Sibelius, he is always a wild card.

[24NerF]

The thing with Kogan and Oistrakh is that they're Russian, and the play Russian school violin, meaning everything is played intensely and dramatically, the tone is very loud and dramatic. This is good in some cases, and it also makes them great technicians, but not necessarily great musicians. Sometimes, the intensity produced by Kogan or Oistrakh conflicts with the music, especially with the more lyrical parts of this concerto, Zino is great, but he lacks the intensity of the Russians as well.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

I love the Russians as well! I place Mintz totally out of the picture since FOR ME (note I said, for me) no one holds a candle to Mintz.(Born in Russia but moved to Israel) Makes me wish I had Russian blood! But I love Kogan! I love his musicality..his bowing! I also love Kyung Wha Chung though.she fluffs this area a bit..I really enjoy listening to all the different interpretations, I just love the violin and respect all the great masters. Zino got it right here..

[24NerF]

Zino is a great violinist, and this is definitely a very beautiful rendition of Tchaikovsky.

[calloffthedogs]

I think Kogan's various recordings of that passage are actually more sensitive than Francescatti's.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

oh pooten-annyLOL you are just being difficult..you and you tender hearted little thing you! I am going to send you a little box of kleenex tissues cause you are just so blame tender.I wonder what a good job is for somebody as pure and tender as you are.testing out mattressess for Princesses in case there is a pea under it...you need a job that is really, really DELICATE:) Just messing with you.I like Kogan's too and you are fun to tease :) But Zino's IS better --you is too deafy to hear it.

[calloffthedogs]

bring it on moon!

Zino's vibrato is too wide and slow for my taste. Love Zino though. Kogan is my preference.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

darling..that is a fast vibrato..try matching it on your own violin..you'll wear your wrist out it is so rapid..measure it on your metranome..it's hummingbird like..its the thing I like least about Zino..that fast vibrato...my favorite vibrato is the wide, slow vibrato of Tibor Vargo..thats a slow one..I know something about trying to slow down a vibrato and timing it because I have worked on slowing my own down and broadening it...Kogan's is slower too...but Zino articulates the passage better.

[calloffthedogs]

There must be a solar eclipse going on bc your moonbeams arent coming through on this. Zino has a great vibrato but it is slowish bc it comes from the wrist. Kogan's vibrato coming from the fingers. Much faster and more intense when need be. Agree to disagree.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

Zino--Wrist

Kogan--Arm

finger--idiots

[calloffthedogs]

wrong again Moon. The lunar eclipse is blocking something here. Heifetz and Kogan have a vibrato that is impelled by the fingertips.

I love Zino. Not fighting you on that point. His Vitali is best.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

Vibrato does pull the finger tips..fingers must be loose..and there is hand vibrato...as a young girl I listened to F. and emulated that vibrato and got "pinged" for it in competion and told to slow it down..that it was not for a modern violinist and it was hell to learn to slow it down..I had to work with a metronome and develop a second vibrato from the arm to slow it down...timining the pulses with the metranome. The French players often play what they hear in the French voice, ie, Ferras

[wtfpwndzor]

@OriginalMoonbeam nooo

never slow down the vibrato

look at francescatti, heifetz, hassid, kreisler

one of their great characteristic was an intense and fast vibrato

personally my violin knew of my influence from francescatti and szeryng and wanting me going for a stronger more rich and fast(at least to the extent i could) vibrato...although as quoted by i believe it was menuhin or heifetz that the best vibrato comes naturally not from thinking about it

[anchirib]

Bravo ! French violinist

[calloffthedogs]

with some Italiano mixed in too

[AntiAssassin]

5 star

[billyguns2]

I LOVE Schippers' tempi! Noble, musical, and so right! Francescatti seems too sugary for my taste.

[OriginalMoonbeam]

I prefer his version of this best--which I almost always prefer Milstein, but this is incredulously gorgeous and opulent.

[jabsomdoc]

outstanding! truly one of the few who could rival heifetz