@edwardpf123 Said: The God is Israel is a triune God, which is why they used 'echad' for one God (a compound unity).
Not according to Jesus, I won't believe you, but Jesus---->Mark 12:29-32.
God the Father isn't a Created angel----->Col 2:18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,
The LORD God of Israel who alone is God the Father was/is never woshiped as an angel.
@KennethBro1 Said: Col 2:18; Galatians 3:19. "Jesus said: Jhn 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.(Mat 5:17)
Paul said: Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.(Ecc 12:13 -14)
@JesusTheMonotheist Wrote: Keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love, Well said, To love is to keep Gods commandments,And to keep Gods commandments is to love. You wrote: Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! Well said, We do not make void the law through faith we establish it,Why?Because faith is the fulfillment of the law Romans 10:3-4 Bless
Ok, you're adding to God's word,and you can't back up your claims by the bible.
The bible backs up the claims perfectly,But not all understand what is written,A veil covers their eyes,To them the prophecy is true,it is a book of rules to do and not to do,And so it is for all that stand on Sinai,All their days will be to persecute the free with hostility,threats and accusations,Lest they they turn and be healed,And see and thank God.
@KennethBro1 Jam 2:12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,
Jam 4:11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?
@JesusTheMonotheist Wrote: judged by the law that gives freedom, Well said, But the law of freedom does not mean the book of do's and don'ts,It means the law of love in Christ, Romans 8:2 The law of rules powers sin, 1 Corinthians 15:56 Christ sets free from law, John 8:36 The righteous do not live by law, 1 Timothy 1:9 But by grace Romans 6:14-15 Does that mean we go on sinning? No,It means we go on loving, Sin is for those under law. bless
@KennethBro1 Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
@KennethBro1 1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
@JesusTheMonotheist Wrote: He that saith,I know him,and keepeth not his commandments,is a liar, His commandments from the beginning has been love,Love is the fulfillment of the law, Romans 13:10 Rule says:Do not murder Love does not even get angry with his brother, Rule says:Do not commit adultery, Love does not even look at a women in lust,Why?Because he loves his wife. See that, good news right? Here's even better news,Its not even us who does it, Philippians 2:13 But Christ in us
@KennethBro1 Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside [are] dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
@KennethBro1 Ecc 12:13 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole [duty] of man. 14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
@JesusTheMonotheist Wrote: Now all has been heard, Well said, Indees they have,But just because they heard does not mean they understand, 1 Corinthians 2:8 Mark 4:11-13 Although they heard,They don't hear,To them,God is law,Do this,Don't do that,Do this,Don't do that. Isaiah 28:9-11 Colossians 2:20-23 bless
@edwardpf123 Said: Since as the Word he was always with the Father.(Jn.1:1, Jn.17)-->Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
Pro 8:22 The LORD created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old. 23 Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth.. 30 then I was beside him, like a master workman; and I was daily his delight, rejoicing before him always,
@edwardpf123 Said: Who said Christ was greater-he is equal to the Father.-->A singular person is speaking who is God the Father: Isa 46:5 To whom will you liken Me, and make [Me] **equal** And compare Me, that we should be alike?
@edwardpf123 Rev 1:4, 8, only refers to the Father in context, if you want to deny it, it's your right to do so. Compare Rev 1:4, 8, with Rev 4:8 it only refers to the Father, Jesus is excluded from the whole chapter of Rev 4, in which only a single person is being mentioned as God.
@edwardpf123 Said: Against the 2nd commandment? That would make him a sinner and those doing so as sinners also. The angel in Rev. would not allow John to worship him, no creature is to be worshipped.
God the Father called his son, king Solomon, God. So is God the Father a sinner because he called king Solomon God? Jesus is never worshiped as God in the bible, Jesus worships his Father as God.
@edwardpf123 Thomas didn't see God who is invisible, he saw his son, a glorified man, God isn't a man(flesh). God is an immutable spirit, he didn't become man(flesh), he sent his son to become like one of us. Where in the bible is Jesus being worshiped as God, you haven't proven it by the bible.
@edwardpf123 I'm not arguing that Jesus wasn't God(theos) what I'm saying he isn't the one God of the bible that only applies to God the Father and excludes Jesus.
It's sad really, all these people bickering over The God of the Universe, The same God who formed the galaxies. Nothing is impossible with God. He rules. Enough said.
Hey Roger!! Great video here bro. These people are not only confused about the trinity, they don't believe the bible. The same goes for those who say eternal life is conditional after one is saved eternally. They don't believe the word of God so this makes their teachings invalid and irrelevent. Paul tells us they are liars. But I see your having fun batting these guys around and teaching truth! When I look at these feuding sociopaths I can't help but think "Do they think God is not capable?"lol
Amen! We have been trying to explain this to the Jehovah Witness's that come to our door.
Elohim is a plural noun.One of the things that I ask when I am in the chat room is,if he wasn't God why were they trying to stone him in the book of John.
We are doing a study on Revelation and have learned that when the trumpets are blown,the trinity takes turns handing out the wrath.
@noahsark1962 Mal 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously with one another By profaning the covenant of the fathers?
Hbr 12:9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected [us], and we paid [them] respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?
Mat 23:9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
I don't like the word 'godhead,' I never have. It is easier to think of this as a problem that man may not ever be able to describe or solve. It is better to just believe what is written in terms of One God preferring to manifest in three distinct persons. The label 'trinity' is not adequate. The fact that God can be in three places at the same time, converse with Himself as separate persons, make Himself smaller that a zygote while remaining bigger than the universe, doesn't help either.
Great teaching on an important topic! 1 John 5:7 says it all. It's kind of like H2O, one molecule existing in 3 distinct forms: liquid, gas, and solid. "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 2 Cor. 13:14
@Harvesttime144 There is one God the Father, and Jesus is excluded from him. Jhn 1:14 says, the logos was made/ginomai flesh, like all things were made/ginomai through him by the Father. Jhn 1:3.
God the Father alone is immutable, undying, unbegotten: 1Ti 6:16 who(Father) alone{monos alone (without a companion) } has immortality(undying), dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amein. "Jesus was born and died.
@JesusTheMonotheist -And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh' (1Tim.3:16)
And Thomas answered and said, My Lord and my God' (Jn.20:29)
'And he said Lord, I believe. And he WORSHIPED him. (Jn.9:38) If Christ wasn't God, then he was allowing himself to be worshipped in volition of the 2nd Commandement.
The Trinity is God, one in essence, three in Persons.
Christ is the revealed member of the Trinity (Jn.14:9)
@edwardpf123 Please read other translations they don't read the same as the (KJV) 1Tim.3:16. "Jn.20:29 is an isolated passage in which a doubting Monotheist Thomas called his Lord and Savior a Monotheist believer "My Lord and my God!"
I don't deny Jesus was/is worshiped he is worthy, but never as God, no where in the bible is he worshiped as God, that would violate Exd 20:3 which is only referencing a single person known as the LORD God of Israel whom Jesus worships, he obeyed it.
@JesusTheMonotheist -The other translations are wrong. So deal with the correct translation. Who can be worshipped but God? Thomas called Christ God! So, Thomas was a Trinitarian was were all the Apostles.
@edwardpf123 said: Thomas called Christ God! So, Thomas was a Trinitarian was were all the Apostles. "Not according to the Monotheist Jesus, they were all Monotheist.
(Jhn 4:22-24) Jhn 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and [to] My God and your God.' "The first Christians were Monotheist not Trinitarians.
@JesusTheMonotheist -No, Christ knew that He was God and said so, that is why He said before Abraham was I am. The Jews knew He was making Himself equal with God. So, either He was God or a liar-which is it? What you anti-Trinitarians fail to grasp is the two natures of Christ, as both God and man. When He called God His father, He was speaking as a man, not God.
@edwardpf123 Thomas didn't see the eternal God of whom Jesus said, God is a spirit, he isn't flesh(man). Give me a bible passage where Jesus is being worshiped as God?
@JesusTheMonotheist The same Greek word "proskuneo" is used whether it be the Father or Jesus who is being worshipped. Worship is worship. You can't not find away around this because Jesus was worshipped as God because He is God!
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 3:9 Indeed I will make [those] of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship( proskyneō) before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Where is that in the bible?-->You can't not find away around this because Jesus was worshipped as God because He is God!
@JesusTheMonotheist -Against the 2nd commandment? That would make him a sinner and those doing so as sinners also. The angel in Rev. would not allow John to worship him, no creature is to be worshipped.
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 4:2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and [One](Not Two) sat on the throne. <--It's referencing one person, who is God the Father.
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 4:11 "You are worthy, O Lord, [fn] To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your(Singular/Father) *will* they exist and were created."
God the Father created all things according to his own will in Christ Jesus.
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 1:4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him **who is and who was and who is to come**, and from the seven Spirits who are before His(Father) throne, 5 and from *Jesus Christ*..
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, [the] Beginning and [the] End," says the Lord, "**who is and who was and who is to come**, the Almighty."<--It only refers to God the Father in Context.
@JesusTheMonotheist Jesus Christ is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. You are very, very confused. Are you a Jehovah's Witness? Are you a Mormon?
@JesusTheMonotheist 'Behold he cometh with clouds and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him, and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so Amen (Rev.1:7) That is who Rev.1:8 is referring to, not the Father.
So stop making up nonsense. The Alpha and Omega is described in Rev.1:13-18, 'I am he that liveth and was dead' who does that sound like?
@savedbyjesusblood There is only one Almighty who anointed Jesus with all authority who is greater than all creation, but he isn't greater than the one who anointed him with all authority.
@JesusTheMonotheist -Thomas saw Jesus AS God. God is a spirit and that took on flesh and was seen in the likeness of man. Jn.9:35-38 'Dost thou believe on the Son of God...And Jesus said it is he that talketh with thee, and he said, Lord, I believe, and he worshipped him.
@edwardpf123 Thomas saw a glorified man, who before his death was a mortal man received immortality by his Father God, who alone is immutable, undying, unbegotten: 1Ti 6:16 who(Father) alone{monos alone (without a companion) } has immortality(undying), dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amein. "Jesus was born and died.
@JesusTheMonotheist -And he called him God? And he worshipped him and Christ allowed it? Yes, Jesus was born and did die and rose again, as a man. He was both God and man.
@JesusTheMonotheist -The God is Israel is a triune God, which is why they used 'echad' for one God (a compound unity). The Trinity wasn't well known until the NT and God becoming flesh as the Lord Jesus Christ (Jn.1:14) In the OT you had the 2nd member of the Trinity becoming the angel of the Lord, who was worshipped as God (Ju.13:19-22).
@edwardpf123 Please read in context: Jhn 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
@JesusTheMonotheist -Yes, when you see Christ, you see the Father, since Christ is the image of the Father (Heb.1:3) and the Father calls the Son God in Heb.1:8, citing Psa.45:6-7. The Father is a Trinitarian.
@edwardpf123 Psa.45:6-7 is referencing King Solomon as God. The Church is being conformed to the image of his Son, as the Son is the image of God, for he said, you are gods.
Said: The Father is a Trinitarian. "Not according to Paul: Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
In this passage a singular person, God the Father is saying: Isa 46:5 "To whom will you liken Me, and make [Me] equal And compare Me, that we should be alike?
@Harvesttime144 Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1Cr 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].
@Harvesttime144 Isa 41:4 is referencing a single person as being the LORD not two nor three. Rev 1:17-18 is referencing a single person who is Jesus who was dead and made alive by his Father.
2Cr 13:4 affrims the glorified Jesus living by his Father's power, meaning he isn't eternal because he doesn't live by his own power. "For though He was crucified in weakness, yet He lives by the power of God...
Said: The Lord is ONE meaning "One" godhead, with three individual persons that make up the ONE godhead.
Not according to the LORD God of Israel who was in Christ and said: Jhn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
In Jhn 17:3 Jesus is referencing a single person as the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, Jesus excluded himself from him.
We need the Holy Spirit to help us to understand the truth that God is a trinity, after we get saved, or our minds will never understand the trinity of God satisfactorily.
The Holy Spirit explains spiritual realities to us with His Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they can only be discerned through the Spirit’s explanation. 1 Corinthians 2:13,14
@JesusTheMonotheist -You had better look at the Hebrew word for 'one' in that passage that is being quoted, Deut.6:4, the word is 'echad' it means a compound unity, not a singular 'one' which has a different Heb.word.
@edwardpf123 Said: Deut.6:4, the word is 'echad' it means a compound unity, not a singular 'one' "Not according to Jesus, he said, his Lord God, is one person.
Mar 12:29 Yeshua answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Yisra'el, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: (Not Three)
32 The Sofer said to him, "Truly, teacher, you have said well that he(Lord God) is one(Not Three), and there is none other but he(Singular/Father)
@Harvesttime144 (KJV) 1 Jhn 5:7 is a forgery. In Mar 12:29 Jesus who is a Monotheist not a Trinitarian, is affirming, upholding, his belief in his one God, the God of Israel, the God of the Jews(Jesus), who were the first Christians.
@JesusTheMonotheist THE QUESTION SHOULD BE, WHO WAS JESUS PRAYING TO ON THE CROSS WHEN HE SAID MY GOD MY GOD, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME?? WAS HE DELUSIONAL? AND WHAT ABOUT HIS PRAYER IN THE GARDEN THE NIGHT BEFORE HIS CRUCIFIXION? WAS HE SPEAKING TO HIMSELF, AND ATTEMPTING TO DECEIVE US, AND WHAT ABOUT AT HIS BAPTISM, THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME ON HIM IN A DOVE, AND A VOICE CAME FROM HEAVEN SAYING THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED, WAS HE MAKING THAT VOICE APPEAR
@JesusTheMonotheist MAY GOD HELP YOU. I WILL NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME WITH A PERSON WHO SAYS THAT 1 JOHN 5,7 WAS FORGED AS YOU SAY, HAVE A GREAT DAY, MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU
@workerforGod Why not try reading Jhn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
@JesusTheMonotheist -1Jn.5:7 is part of the scripture and Christ claimed to be God and the Jews knew that was what he was claiming, hence their attempts to kill Him for blasphemy. (Jn.8)
@edwardpf123 Said: 1Jn.5:7 is part of the scripture and Christ claimed to be God and the Jews knew that was what he was claiming, hence their attempts to kill Him for blasphemy. (Jn.8)
KJV 1Jn.5:7 is a corruption. Christ never claimed to be God in Jhn 8. Please quote your passages where he said he was God.
Folks take A VERSE, 'God is one' and assume that means He is mathmatically one. MANY Scriptures prove otherwise. And here is what Jesus prayed in the Garden, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given me, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE." John 17:11
@MessiahYeshuah AMEN, WE WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE, HE SAID LET US(ELOIM) CREATE MAN IN OUR IMAGE, BODY, SOUL, AND SPIRIT, FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, AND SATAN WHO WANTS TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH GOD WILL ALSO TRY TO IMITATE GOD NY HAVING HIMSELF SATAN, THE ANTICHRIST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET, MAKING IT THE UNHOLY TRINITY
@JesusTheMonotheist Do you know, that in the Psalms, Yeshuah is called God's right hand? Just as the body of Messiah is comprised of many members, so is the Almighty. With God, all things are possible. :)
@MessiahYeshuah said: Do you know, that in the Psalms, Yeshuah is called God's right hand? "Please quote the passage. I know Jesus is at the right hand of his Father God who is the head of Jesus. The Father is the head of his family in heaven and on earth.
There is only one Almighty, he is God the Father, who gave all authority to his son, who once said; "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
Great word brother Roger, and just that verse you mentioned about Jesus baptism should be enough to lay this heretical teaching to rest, for it clearly shows Jesus in the water being baptized, the Holy Spirit descending on him like a dove, and the Father saying this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. great video Roger, Marc
@workerforGod The Holy spirit isn't a third person of a Triune God, it's the mind, heart, of God the Father, that's why it has attributes. The Holy Spirit, is the spirit in the mind, heart, of God the Father, who projects his eternal power, presence, of his spirit in Jesus, who allocates his Father's power of his will. Mat 1:18 clearly ascribes the Holy Spirit as the one who impregnated Mary, implying he's the Father of Jesus, along with God the Father, would make two Fathers.
The Trinity always makes me think of the 3 spatial dimensions for some reason. And considering physics hypothesizes that there are actually 10 or 11 which we can only define through mathematics, not observe directly, makes me wonder if there are facets of God we're simply incapable of experiencing. And aren't, or weren't at least, capable of understanding resulting in the bible mentioning the Trinity. And not the other facets. Just philosophizing here BTW. No heresy intended. :)
I love God, but I believe that there is a high percentage of bibles that should not exist. In fact most of the ones that are in the world today.
JeremyBensonWriter 1 month ago
There IS only one God! God in three persons, the Blessed Trinity!
lostandfoundher 2 months ago
Amen. God Bless you Bro
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@MessiahYeshuah Said: Why do you question how God operates? Have you no fear?!
Jesus feared his Father, God, kept, and obeyed, Exd 20:3. Do you fear Jesus' Father God? Mat 10:28; Luk 12:5; Ecc 12:13-14.
And please, if you don't like to debate, why are you approaching me with your Trinitarian theology, isn't that like a coin with two faces?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Said: The God is Israel is a triune God, which is why they used 'echad' for one God (a compound unity).
Not according to Jesus, I won't believe you, but Jesus---->Mark 12:29-32.
God the Father isn't a Created angel----->Col 2:18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,
The LORD God of Israel who alone is God the Father was/is never woshiped as an angel.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist
Wrote Col 2:18
Col 2:18 and has to do with (Freedom From Law)
The law was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator
Galatians 3:19
To try and be justified by law is to worship angels,
Thats all I wanted to point out,arguing over the Trinity I do not want to do,,God the Father is who reveals who God the Son is.
Matthew 16:13-17
I denied the Trinity Doctrine for 10 years because I didn't like how it was philosophically written but now I see it.
bless
KennethBro1 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Said: Col 2:18; Galatians 3:19. "Jesus said: Jhn 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.(Mat 5:17)
Paul said: Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.(Ecc 12:13 -14)
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Said: ..God the Father is who reveals who God the Son is.
Where in the bible can I find that exact quote---God the Son--
Can you back it up? If not your not Creditable.
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KennethBro1 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist
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Where in the bible can I find that exact quote?
If you're looking for an exact quote,You're looking in the wrong direction,Look to the Father and than he will reveal the Son,
KennethBro1 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Ok, you're adding to God's word, and you can't back up your claims by the bible.
---God the Son-- Pro 30:6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
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Ok, you're adding to God's word,and you can't back up your claims by the bible.
The bible backs up the claims perfectly,But not all understand what is written,A veil covers their eyes,To them the prophecy is true,it is a book of rules to do and not to do,And so it is for all that stand on Sinai,All their days will be to persecute the free with hostility,threats and accusations,Lest they they turn and be healed,And see and thank God.
Bless
KennethBro1 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Jam 2:12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,
Jam 4:11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?
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KennethBro1 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
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KennethBro1 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside [are] dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@KennethBro1 Ecc 12:13 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole [duty] of man. 14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
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@edwardpf123 Said: Since as the Word he was always with the Father.(Jn.1:1, Jn.17)-->Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
Pro 8:22 The LORD created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old. 23 Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth.. 30 then I was beside him, like a master workman; and I was daily his delight, rejoicing before him always,
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Said: Who said Christ was greater-he is equal to the Father.-->A singular person is speaking who is God the Father: Isa 46:5 To whom will you liken Me, and make [Me] **equal** And compare Me, that we should be alike?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
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@edwardpf123 Said: One God- three Persons, clearly it is you who is confused.
Can you back up your claims? Give me the exact quote from the bible--(One God- three Persons)-- if you can't you're not Creditable.
Here is how the bible defines the one God-->Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father..
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Rev 1:4, 8, only refers to the Father in context, if you want to deny it, it's your right to do so. Compare Rev 1:4, 8, with Rev 4:8 it only refers to the Father, Jesus is excluded from the whole chapter of Rev 4, in which only a single person is being mentioned as God.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
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@edwardpf123 Said: Against the 2nd commandment? That would make him a sinner and those doing so as sinners also. The angel in Rev. would not allow John to worship him, no creature is to be worshipped.
God the Father called his son, king Solomon, God. So is God the Father a sinner because he called king Solomon God? Jesus is never worshiped as God in the bible, Jesus worships his Father as God.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Thomas didn't see God who is invisible, he saw his son, a glorified man, God isn't a man(flesh). God is an immutable spirit, he didn't become man(flesh), he sent his son to become like one of us. Where in the bible is Jesus being worshiped as God, you haven't proven it by the bible.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 I'm not arguing that Jesus wasn't God(theos) what I'm saying he isn't the one God of the bible that only applies to God the Father and excludes Jesus.
Jhn 8:58..Before Abraham was, I(egō) am(eimi).
Mat 8:9 For I(egō) am(eimi). a man under authority..
Before all creation Jesus was the son of God(Pro 30:4; Col 1:15).
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
It's sad really, all these people bickering over The God of the Universe, The same God who formed the galaxies. Nothing is impossible with God. He rules. Enough said.
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
Hey Roger!! Great video here bro. These people are not only confused about the trinity, they don't believe the bible. The same goes for those who say eternal life is conditional after one is saved eternally. They don't believe the word of God so this makes their teachings invalid and irrelevent. Paul tells us they are liars. But I see your having fun batting these guys around and teaching truth! When I look at these feuding sociopaths I can't help but think "Do they think God is not capable?"lol
pbar1000 2 months ago
Amen! We have been trying to explain this to the Jehovah Witness's that come to our door.
Elohim is a plural noun.One of the things that I ask when I am in the chat room is,if he wasn't God why were they trying to stone him in the book of John.
We are doing a study on Revelation and have learned that when the trumpets are blown,the trinity takes turns handing out the wrath.
noahsark1962 2 months ago
@noahsark1962 Mal 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously with one another By profaning the covenant of the fathers?
Hbr 12:9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected [us], and we paid [them] respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?
Mat 23:9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@noahsark1962 Said: the trinity takes turns handing out the wrath.
Where is that in the bible?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Revelation
noahsark1962 2 months ago
I don't like the word 'godhead,' I never have. It is easier to think of this as a problem that man may not ever be able to describe or solve. It is better to just believe what is written in terms of One God preferring to manifest in three distinct persons. The label 'trinity' is not adequate. The fact that God can be in three places at the same time, converse with Himself as separate persons, make Himself smaller that a zygote while remaining bigger than the universe, doesn't help either.
sheepfax 2 months ago
Great job! brother! Let that Holy Spirit flow! Bro! Good teaching! Love and pray for you,brother Roger. LORD bless! (brother fred in Christ)
Freddymack1000 2 months ago
Great teaching on an important topic! 1 John 5:7 says it all. It's kind of like H2O, one molecule existing in 3 distinct forms: liquid, gas, and solid. "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." 2 Cor. 13:14
JesusPaid4You 2 months ago
even older folks of the faith have fallen for oneness...
moa373 2 months ago
@Harvesttime144 Amen!!!
Enoch2 2 months ago
Good points... thank you.
charis74Him 2 months ago
Stay strong brother, good message. John 10:30 : " I and my Father are one."
loveisblinddontblink 2 months ago
@Harvesttime144 There is one God the Father, and Jesus is excluded from him. Jhn 1:14 says, the logos was made/ginomai flesh, like all things were made/ginomai through him by the Father. Jhn 1:3.
God the Father alone is immutable, undying, unbegotten: 1Ti 6:16 who(Father) alone{monos alone (without a companion) } has immortality(undying), dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amein. "Jesus was born and died.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness, God was manifest in the flesh' (1Tim.3:16)
And Thomas answered and said, My Lord and my God' (Jn.20:29)
'And he said Lord, I believe. And he WORSHIPED him. (Jn.9:38) If Christ wasn't God, then he was allowing himself to be worshipped in volition of the 2nd Commandement.
The Trinity is God, one in essence, three in Persons.
Christ is the revealed member of the Trinity (Jn.14:9)
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Please read other translations they don't read the same as the (KJV) 1Tim.3:16. "Jn.20:29 is an isolated passage in which a doubting Monotheist Thomas called his Lord and Savior a Monotheist believer "My Lord and my God!"
I don't deny Jesus was/is worshiped he is worthy, but never as God, no where in the bible is he worshiped as God, that would violate Exd 20:3 which is only referencing a single person known as the LORD God of Israel whom Jesus worships, he obeyed it.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -The other translations are wrong. So deal with the correct translation. Who can be worshipped but God? Thomas called Christ God! So, Thomas was a Trinitarian was were all the Apostles.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 said: Thomas called Christ God! So, Thomas was a Trinitarian was were all the Apostles. "Not according to the Monotheist Jesus, they were all Monotheist.
(Jhn 4:22-24) Jhn 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and [to] My God and your God.' "The first Christians were Monotheist not Trinitarians.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -No, Christ knew that He was God and said so, that is why He said before Abraham was I am. The Jews knew He was making Himself equal with God. So, either He was God or a liar-which is it? What you anti-Trinitarians fail to grasp is the two natures of Christ, as both God and man. When He called God His father, He was speaking as a man, not God.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Thomas didn't see the eternal God of whom Jesus said, God is a spirit, he isn't flesh(man). Give me a bible passage where Jesus is being worshiped as God?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Matthew 2:11, Matthew 8:2, Matthew 9:18, Matthew 15:25, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, John 9:38, Hebrews 1:6.
Clearly, Jesus Christ is to be worshipped because Jesus Christ is God.
savedbyjesusblood 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood I don't deny Jesus is being worshiped, but not as God.
Said: early, Jesus Christ is to be worshipped because Jesus Christ is God.
Where is that passage in the bible?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist The same Greek word "proskuneo" is used whether it be the Father or Jesus who is being worshipped. Worship is worship. You can't not find away around this because Jesus was worshipped as God because He is God!
savedbyjesusblood 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 3:9 Indeed I will make [those] of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship( proskyneō) before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Where is that in the bible?-->You can't not find away around this because Jesus was worshipped as God because He is God!
You just can't make up your own ideas.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -Against the 2nd commandment? That would make him a sinner and those doing so as sinners also. The angel in Rev. would not allow John to worship him, no creature is to be worshipped.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood You quoted Hebrews 1:6. Did the angels forget to worship their God, the Father?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist "Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come" Revelation 4:8.
So who is to come?
savedbyjesusblood 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 4" Please read it in context it's only referencing God the Father, continuing reading to Rev 5.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 4:2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and [One](Not Two) sat on the throne. <--It's referencing one person, who is God the Father.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 4:11 "You are worthy, O Lord, [fn] To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your(Singular/Father) *will* they exist and were created."
God the Father created all things according to his own will in Christ Jesus.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Rev 1:4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him **who is and who was and who is to come**, and from the seven Spirits who are before His(Father) throne, 5 and from *Jesus Christ*..
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, [the] Beginning and [the] End," says the Lord, "**who is and who was and who is to come**, the Almighty."<--It only refers to God the Father in Context.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Jesus Christ is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. You are very, very confused. Are you a Jehovah's Witness? Are you a Mormon?
savedbyjesusblood 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Please just quote the bible and make your case.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood Said: You are very, very confused.. --> One God in three Gods?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -One God- three Persons, clearly it is you who is confused.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist 'Behold he cometh with clouds and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him, and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so Amen (Rev.1:7) That is who Rev.1:8 is referring to, not the Father.
So stop making up nonsense. The Alpha and Omega is described in Rev.1:13-18, 'I am he that liveth and was dead' who does that sound like?
It certainly isn't the Father.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@savedbyjesusblood There is only one Almighty who anointed Jesus with all authority who is greater than all creation, but he isn't greater than the one who anointed him with all authority.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -Who said Christ was greater-he is equal to the Father.
Since as the Word he was always with the Father.(Jn.1:1, Jn.17)
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -Thomas saw Jesus AS God. God is a spirit and that took on flesh and was seen in the likeness of man. Jn.9:35-38 'Dost thou believe on the Son of God...And Jesus said it is he that talketh with thee, and he said, Lord, I believe, and he worshipped him.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Thomas saw a glorified man, who before his death was a mortal man received immortality by his Father God, who alone is immutable, undying, unbegotten: 1Ti 6:16 who(Father) alone{monos alone (without a companion) } has immortality(undying), dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amein. "Jesus was born and died.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -And he called him God? And he worshipped him and Christ allowed it? Yes, Jesus was born and did die and rose again, as a man. He was both God and man.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Which God did the Jews and Jesus worship? Wasn't it the God of Israel? Did they worship the God of the nations, a Triune God.
Jhn 4:22 "You worship what you do not know; we(Jesus and Jews) know what we(Jesus and Jews) worship, for salvation is of the Jews.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -The God is Israel is a triune God, which is why they used 'echad' for one God (a compound unity). The Trinity wasn't well known until the NT and God becoming flesh as the Lord Jesus Christ (Jn.1:14) In the OT you had the 2nd member of the Trinity becoming the angel of the Lord, who was worshipped as God (Ju.13:19-22).
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Please read in context: Jhn 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -Yes, when you see Christ, you see the Father, since Christ is the image of the Father (Heb.1:3) and the Father calls the Son God in Heb.1:8, citing Psa.45:6-7. The Father is a Trinitarian.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Psa.45:6-7 is referencing King Solomon as God. The Church is being conformed to the image of his Son, as the Son is the image of God, for he said, you are gods.
Said: The Father is a Trinitarian. "Not according to Paul: Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
In this passage a singular person, God the Father is saying: Isa 46:5 "To whom will you liken Me, and make [Me] equal And compare Me, that we should be alike?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
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@Harvesttime144 Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1Cr 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us [there is] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom [are] all things, and through whom we [live].
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@Harvesttime144 Isa 41:4 is referencing a single person as being the LORD not two nor three. Rev 1:17-18 is referencing a single person who is Jesus who was dead and made alive by his Father.
2Cr 13:4 affrims the glorified Jesus living by his Father's power, meaning he isn't eternal because he doesn't live by his own power. "For though He was crucified in weakness, yet He lives by the power of God...
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
Said: The Lord is ONE meaning "One" godhead, with three individual persons that make up the ONE godhead.
Not according to the LORD God of Israel who was in Christ and said: Jhn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
In Jhn 17:3 Jesus is referencing a single person as the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, Jesus excluded himself from him.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
We need the Holy Spirit to help us to understand the truth that God is a trinity, after we get saved, or our minds will never understand the trinity of God satisfactorily.
The Holy Spirit explains spiritual realities to us with His Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they can only be discerned through the Spirit’s explanation. 1 Corinthians 2:13,14
CHRISTIANTEACHINGS 2 months ago
Thank you roger. Stay strong and be blessed.
Formertelecomguy 2 months ago
@Harvesttime144 Please look up the different bible translations of Jhn 5:7.
Said: Do you only believe the scriptures that fit your doctrine?
Jesus said, it's not my doctrine Jhn 7:16, meaning it was his Father's word.
Mar 12:29 Yeshua answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Yisra'el, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: (Not Three)
32 The Sofer said to him, "Truly, teacher, you have said well that he(Lord God) is one(Not Three), and there is none other but he(Singular/Father)
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -You had better look at the Hebrew word for 'one' in that passage that is being quoted, Deut.6:4, the word is 'echad' it means a compound unity, not a singular 'one' which has a different Heb.word.
edwardpf123 2 months ago
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@edwardpf123 Said: Deut.6:4, the word is 'echad' it means a compound unity, not a singular 'one' "Not according to Jesus, he said, his Lord God, is one person.
Mar 12:29 Yeshua answered, "The greatest is, 'Hear, Yisra'el, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: (Not Three)
32 The Sofer said to him, "Truly, teacher, you have said well that he(Lord God) is one(Not Three), and there is none other but he(Singular/Father)
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@Harvesttime144 (KJV) 1 Jhn 5:7 is a forgery. In Mar 12:29 Jesus who is a Monotheist not a Trinitarian, is affirming, upholding, his belief in his one God, the God of Israel, the God of the Jews(Jesus), who were the first Christians.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist WOW, HOW DECEIVED YOU ARE, HELP HIM LORD
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod Bible teaches that there is one God, creator, source, so when Jesus died on the Cross, who upheld all things?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist THE QUESTION SHOULD BE, WHO WAS JESUS PRAYING TO ON THE CROSS WHEN HE SAID MY GOD MY GOD, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME?? WAS HE DELUSIONAL? AND WHAT ABOUT HIS PRAYER IN THE GARDEN THE NIGHT BEFORE HIS CRUCIFIXION? WAS HE SPEAKING TO HIMSELF, AND ATTEMPTING TO DECEIVE US, AND WHAT ABOUT AT HIS BAPTISM, THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME ON HIM IN A DOVE, AND A VOICE CAME FROM HEAVEN SAYING THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED, WAS HE MAKING THAT VOICE APPEAR
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod How many God's does Jesus have? One, Two, Three?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist MAY GOD HELP YOU. I WILL NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME WITH A PERSON WHO SAYS THAT 1 JOHN 5,7 WAS FORGED AS YOU SAY, HAVE A GREAT DAY, MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod May God Bless you, and give you victory over the enemy of your soul.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@workerforGod How many Gods do you Have? One, Two, Three?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
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@workerforGod Why not try reading Jhn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only{monos alone (without a companion) } true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@workerforGod Can an eternal God have a source? and still possess eternality?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist -1Jn.5:7 is part of the scripture and Christ claimed to be God and the Jews knew that was what he was claiming, hence their attempts to kill Him for blasphemy. (Jn.8)
edwardpf123 2 months ago
@edwardpf123 Said: 1Jn.5:7 is part of the scripture and Christ claimed to be God and the Jews knew that was what he was claiming, hence their attempts to kill Him for blasphemy. (Jn.8)
KJV 1Jn.5:7 is a corruption. Christ never claimed to be God in Jhn 8. Please quote your passages where he said he was God.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
very well done, thank you, brother. :)
stefanya 2 months ago
Folks take A VERSE, 'God is one' and assume that means He is mathmatically one. MANY Scriptures prove otherwise. And here is what Jesus prayed in the Garden, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given me, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE." John 17:11
That statement alone wraps it up quite nicely!
eliluc09 2 months ago
We were made in HIS image, not the other way around. :-P
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
@MessiahYeshuah AMEN, WE WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE, HE SAID LET US(ELOIM) CREATE MAN IN OUR IMAGE, BODY, SOUL, AND SPIRIT, FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, AND SATAN WHO WANTS TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH GOD WILL ALSO TRY TO IMITATE GOD NY HAVING HIMSELF SATAN, THE ANTICHRIST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET, MAKING IT THE UNHOLY TRINITY
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod God the Father isn't a creature nor part of creation, there is no comparison.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Do you know, that in the Psalms, Yeshuah is called God's right hand? Just as the body of Messiah is comprised of many members, so is the Almighty. With God, all things are possible. :)
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
@MessiahYeshuah said: Do you know, that in the Psalms, Yeshuah is called God's right hand? "Please quote the passage. I know Jesus is at the right hand of his Father God who is the head of Jesus. The Father is the head of his family in heaven and on earth.
There is only one Almighty, he is God the Father, who gave all authority to his son, who once said; "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Just do a word search with eSword, "right hand", it is in numerous places. My favorite is Psalm 110:1-4.
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist Why do you question how God operates? Have you no fear?!
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
He is MORE than that. We need to stop confining and conforming God to OUR image.
MessiahYeshuah 2 months ago
Great word brother Roger, and just that verse you mentioned about Jesus baptism should be enough to lay this heretical teaching to rest, for it clearly shows Jesus in the water being baptized, the Holy Spirit descending on him like a dove, and the Father saying this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. great video Roger, Marc
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod The Holy spirit isn't a third person of a Triune God, it's the mind, heart, of God the Father, that's why it has attributes. The Holy Spirit, is the spirit in the mind, heart, of God the Father, who projects his eternal power, presence, of his spirit in Jesus, who allocates his Father's power of his will. Mat 1:18 clearly ascribes the Holy Spirit as the one who impregnated Mary, implying he's the Father of Jesus, along with God the Father, would make two Fathers.
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@JesusTheMonotheist YOUR DECEIVED, STOP READING BOOKS, AND READ THE BIBLE
workerforGod 2 months ago
@workerforGod According to Jesus, who is greater, God the Father or the Holy Spirit?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
@workerforGod From where does the eternal power originate of the three persons of the Trinity?
JesusTheMonotheist 2 months ago
Excellent teaching, brother! Amen, and amen! Well done!
KECOG 2 months ago
Well said brother, thank you for taking the time to prepare and bring us this teaching! God's rich blessings on you.
TonyaLeeforJC 2 months ago
Preeeaaach it brother! Amen, amen and amen!
FoundthePearl1 2 months ago
Amen and amen!
edwardpf123 2 months ago
Glutes ...bingo.
That's why the Bible is from God.
It lets us glimpse at things IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHIND otherwise
veritas77axiom 2 months ago
The Trinity always makes me think of the 3 spatial dimensions for some reason. And considering physics hypothesizes that there are actually 10 or 11 which we can only define through mathematics, not observe directly, makes me wonder if there are facets of God we're simply incapable of experiencing. And aren't, or weren't at least, capable of understanding resulting in the bible mentioning the Trinity. And not the other facets. Just philosophizing here BTW. No heresy intended. :)
TheGlutesOfWrath 2 months ago
@TheGlutesOfWrath Glute the Theologian in the making! Well said bro!
FoundthePearl1 2 months ago
Awesome!!
watchmakeuptips 2 months ago
Well done.
MrRepzion 2 months ago
Amen
SAUNDERSacts2618 2 months ago