@Marshmallowrex I know, i wasnt talking shit haha i was just saying i'd be happy with 200hp all motor as a daily driver shit i got a 2.1Liter crv-tec setup in my hatch as we speak its on my page... what setup u got in the rex?
@Marshmallowrex 200hp in this car can easily run low 13s. U wouldn't be happy about a i-4 making 100hp per liter? I hope you know domestics are the ones that shouldnt be happy about the power they make. I mean shit most common mustangs have v8 4.6 liter and they are only making 300whp on papers, thats fucking pathetic. I mean excuse my language but there is no replacement for displacement. If u have shitty displacement the race is over for you........ I dont even want to bring up power to weight
well... my 1979 rx7 has a 351w v8 pushin 320-350 whp around 400+ hp on crank and it does 11.2 1/4 mile after i dyno it i hope it gets around 10.9 sec 1/4 mile it has a t-5 transmission and ford 8.8 rear differential thats freshly rebuilt
@Diminish420 - I know you boys are trying to compare dick sizes, but you guys just go in a straight line. That's nothing to be really proud of. Why not just put a Corvette engine in a Corolla and call it a day?
Man are people seriously impressed by 200whp? I mean wtf lol this car makes 160whp stock so 200whp isn't shit. I am making 400whp in my WRX and I would ruin this thing in a heart beat. 200whp GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
if you dont like this why you spend your time watching it, and remember, our hondas are ff not awd so you know it would be harder for us to get traction with a lot of power, but from a rolling drag race you are the one who would be history. Dont hate support our love for cars.
why in the hell do guys like you think that WRX's lose in a rolling race because they are AWD. If it is AWD there is no drag from tires that are not providing power. With a FWD car you are dragging your rear wheels and in a RWD car you are pushing your front wheels that are creating drag. Nothing is better than an AWD in a race. Just face it. I respect your love for cars I really do, I just laugh at you guys being impressed with a 200hp car LMFAO.
awd has faster hole shot but slower top speed, any rear or front wheel drive car with 2/3 of your power would beat you in a rolling race, and why is it that skylines start as an awd and then switches to rwd.
P.S. skunk2 hybrid k20 has 300hp N/A and its in the 9 sec 1/4 mile car, FWD
Easy, Impreza 2.5RS is non turbo and if you change out the heads from an STi and upgrade the cam you will have 230hp easy. they start with 180hp so that would be easy as hell. Care to try me again?
thats not going to happen because a impreza on a dyno stock will never get even close to 140hp, not even your sti on a dyno gets their clamed 300hp the most they produce is 230hp no more than that dont believe me check turbo magazine. now care to try me again? subaru GURU?jajaja HAHA
Yeah dumb ass that is because the 300hp the STi claims is at the flywheel like EVERY car that is produced. They ALWAYS claim the hp and tq at the flywheel. Yet a stock Impreza runs low 14's in the 1/4 because it makes 190lb/ft of torque. Torque makes a lot of difference, trust me I see cars like this at the track all the time and one guy I know is a really good driver can only manage 14.30's in the 1/4.
Damn You guys are a bunch of haterz.... Yall bitches in here are a bunch of haterz and should really go get a life. I know that dude and that car spank alot of asses trust me. I was there. So go check yall self bitches.
Wow "ge check yall self bitches" that is about the most idiotic thing I think that I have heard in a long time. That car can't spank shit making 200whp lol that isn't anything. whats it run 15's? My mom's bone stock maxima would eat that thing alive. Not to mention my WRX would ruin that thing in a heart beat.
LMFAO!! Yeah ok keep telling yourself that. It would be in the mid to high 14's I can GUARANTEE you it wouldn't see the 13's until it gets to around 250WHP. Trust me I know I am the co-owner of a 1/4 mile track I see cars like this every night and they NEVER get close to the 13's until they are at least 250hp to the ground.
I guess that calculator on dragsourceDotnet is off then huh? Guessing the car with driver is no heavier than 2,600 with 200whp showed a estimated 13.67 1/4 mile time. Even if traction was a problem I doubt you'd be running mid-14s. Mid-high 13s is my guess. I've seen alot of hatches with around 200whp run low 13s on street tires, no spray. Sure you are a co-owner of a track, but you act like you know what every car dyno's and weighs in at.
WOW you actually go by a "drag calculator" lol we have a name for those here at the track, it's called a "keep dreaming" calculator. You want to know why? Because they always say on those that they are not exactly accurate because wind, elevation, driver skill, traction, track conditions and humidity all play into what you will run at the track. And where I am at is rougly 3,000 ft above sea level. And civics with 200whp do NOT hit the 13's.
Yeah but you have the K20 which makes alot better torque than a B16 or B18. I bet you are around 190 ft lbs of torque though too. And the civic with 200whp makes around 150 to 160 ft lbs which makes alot of difference. Around half a second or more I would say.
wrong i wish, seems to me that you dont know that much about hondas, i have 142tq, hondas are high hp and half the torque, compared to most of the diferent car manufactures,
Yeah they have half the torque because they are half the car. And that is funny because my friend has an RSX type s with I/H/E with a tune and he has 202hp and 165 ft lbs of torque. So evidently you don't have something set up right.
he must have k20/k24 to get that kind of tq with does boltons only, i dont have k-pro or anything to tune, so theres nothing to tune, when people start offending other people about there cars is when they are lacking ways discuss back at, i think subarus are great cars in thier area, and thats rally, honda circuit racing, anyway, ive raced wrx with simple bolt ons, owned them, but when it comes to youre kind of hp not my league, but if i get to 250hp, that could change, not drag, rolling race.
Yeah well the only thing about honda's is that you can only get to about the high 12's before you just need to make it a major project and just rip everything apart and go turbo or major nitrous shot. Everyone keeps telling me to go methanol or something but I am not going to do that. I love the set up that I have now and I don't plan on changing it. I can smoke most everything on the street because muscle cars that can beat me at the track can't on the street because of traction. Untouchable!:D
Well if you just want to find out your hp and not do anything then you can just do one run but if you are doing a "dyno tune" which I would rather do a street tune but then there could be several runs depending on what all they need to change.
o i c that kinda sucks cuz i hate it when some other people gets to punch the gas pedal instead of meself that kinda pissess me off =(. thnx for the infos.
wrong where i live there is an integra gsr with 280hp all motor, no nos, doing 11.8 at 117mph, it is an street car, he goes to college with it every day, an hour 15 drive, oh i fotgot on street tires
last time I checked an integra GSR weighs around 2700lbs or 2800lbs. That would put it at about a 12.7 - 12.8 in the 1/4 It would need to be lightened to around 2200lbs to get to an 11.8. With 280hp I am sure that it is quick don't get me wrong but unless he has lightened it up alot I don't see him getting into the 11's. But I know this civic SI stock is 2800lbs and that would but this around high 13's in the 1/4.
well the only thing i know is that he has carbon fiber hood and trunk, and that when he takes it to the track takes of the all the seats except for his
well idk he might be quick than I think then because idk the weight of the seats and stuff. But he could be in the 12's but I just don't see 11's on a car with that HP granted it is a light car but that is saying also that he can shift like a mother fucker and that he has a launch like no other.
he does 1.7 in the 60ft, believe me that little guy does know how to drive, his been the owner of that car for the past 6 years, he understands that car. not many people do that, i had a civic i did unterstand it to, but with my rsx not yet getting there, the thing with is that my cars behavior changes depending on the type of tire i put on
weight isn't everything nor is hp. so much of it has to do with torque, the tune, the suspension and tires. also, knowing the car. redlining every gear isn't always the best way to drag. it takes looking at the dyno chart, where the most power is, which is usually at the top, but not in all cases. so before you go bench racing saying that just because a car weighs a certain amount, make sure you take into consideration all the other variables that go into play. another factor is the altitude
when it comes down to it yes altitude does matter but both cars racing with have the same advantage there. I am talking about power to weight ratio and I am very well aware that torque is what really wins races. I am part owner of a drag strip so trust me I know all of the variables and possibilities I see it all the time.
hm, are you saying that science and physics is wrong. YOu may own a drag strip, but that doesnt make you qualified to talk about power. For 1. hp is the amount of energy produced from the motor. That energy transfers into kinetic energy, i.e. velocity. More power = more acceleration. IF more tq made a car with 200hp faster, then it fucking has to be producing more power. Go to school for Mechanical Engineering then come talk. its all about power output. not crank tq output.
Not only am I part owner of a drag strip but also I am NHRA certified drag racer AND I am a master certified mechanic. I have been working on cars since I was 6 and my hobby is tuning cars and modifying them I mod civics all the time and mod for mod a V8 will always make more power. So trust me I have been around cars most of my life and I certainly know what in the hell I am talking about.
hp is the amount of tq that can be applied, given the output shaft speed. The slower the wheel rotates. The more tq it can apply. This is why 1st gear pulls harder than 2nd, etc. But more power output will always mean more avaliable tq@ any given velocity. 250hp always wins over 200. laws of thermodynamics state this. becuase 250hp is or can apply more tq than 200. Crank tq has nothing to do with how fast it can go. its only 1/2 of the story.
yeah ok because you are a mechanical engineer that makes you an expert on how fast cars are? hmmm ok have you EVER even been to a drag strip? My guess is no. Let me put it this way take a 2.0L 4 cylinder making 300hp but only 220 ft lbs which is about average output for a 300hp honda vs a fox body mustang 5.0 with say a cam intake you know 300hp motor but it makes 280 ft lbs or torque and is heavier than a honda. Who wins? The mustang because the extra TQ is the FORCE that pushes the car along.
no, its becuase as a mechanical engineer, i study the idea of energy transfer, which i promise you, you do not understand. Which is why we are in this conversation.
energy trasfer means you cannot destroy or create energy. So when your motor creates 300hp, it has to be accounted for when you talk about the mass (car) moving. .... IF, more tq made the car faster, then BY MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS< THE MOTOR WAS PRODUCING MORE POWER!!!!! you stupid fuck. GOD DAMN
Correction. I design them. And know EXACTLY how they work. my only problem is YOu think you do. Becuase it takes more than undoing some bolts to know WHY things are the way they are. so im going to call your Bullshit, like everyone else and challange you to a debate. So just P.m. me for one. But you probably wont cuase your a bitch. energy transfer always wins... so in other words... HP ALWAYS WINS!. YOu cant get a fucking car to move without POWER!!!
HP is the energy that is produced within the cylinders BUT TQ is the force the crank uses to drive the gears in the transmission and through the driveline and to the ground. SO let me explain this again TQ is the force that MOVES the CAR!!! I am telling you like up a 4 cylinder with 300hp and a V8 with 300hp and I PROMISE you that the V8 will win because it produces more torque. WTF is so hard to understand about that?
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong. The honda would eat that mustang like no other. HP Always wins. Take a Hummer H1 if you look at its power number you will see that it makes nearly 500 ft/lb of torque and about 190 HP. So since it has 500 TQ by your explanation it would have to be faster than, hmm lets say a BMW M3. LOL Wrong Wrong Wrong. HP wins all the time. Expecially in Hondas. Power to weight ratio is all that counts.
Did you seriously just bring a 4 ton hummer H1 into the equation? In my comparison I said have the cars around the same weight 4 cylinder with 300hp and a V8 with around 300hp with the cars being around the same weight the V8 will win. I don't think you really got what I was trying to say YES obviously power to weight ration is a consideration but I have seen a 4 ton Dodge 2500 with 1,000 ft lbs of TQ outrun a 320hp honda so TQ does make a difference, it had like 500hp but diesels are TQ beasts!
But that truck did in fact have more horsepower that the honda. RIght? More torque is good for heavy cars to get a good start but down the road where traction is not a issue more hp is better. Hondas dont need alot of torque because they are light and also fwd. Why dont you race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. RWD cars have an advantage you have to admit.
yeah it was 500hp vs the honda's 320whp BUT if you think about it there is a HUGE weight difference between the two lol. Yes power to weight ratio is a big thing but I am just saying that get a V8 with the same hp as a 4 banger with roughly the same weight the V8 wins because it makes more TQ. Why people don't understand that i don't know. Yeah the more hp you have the more TQ you make yeah that is a mathematical certainty but in the end V8's win. Just a fact.
You fucking idiot the V8 wins because it is a RWD which has an advantage. Like I said race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. GET IT. You dont know what you are talking about so STFU already do your self and the world a favor and put a gun to your dumb head and blow your useless brains out will you.
RWD is only an advantage of the line you fucking douche bag! Depending on the weight difference between the cobalt and the honda the cobalt would certainly have a chance to win unless there was like a 1,000lb difference. You are a fucking moron and not even worth trying to ague with. The cobalt would win hands down.
No the Cobalt would not win. Like I said FWD cars do not benefit from gobs of TQ so if the weight was the same and the Honda has 300 HP and 190 TQ and the Cobalt had the same HP but 280 TQ the cobalt would be spinning out of the hole while that Honda with way less TQ is well on its way to wining. LOL I dont care if you are a master of Physics and all but until you get in a type of car that we are talking about you wont know what it feels like and how cars react.
There is a major flaw with your argument. First off all if a v8 is making the same hp as a 4 banger. Something is seriously wrong. Secondly My money would go to the four bang. TQ isn't everything and the 4 banger would be lighter, probably about 200 pounds lighter. Quite the difference. . A lot of euro cars with 4 bangers have almost equal tq and hp ratios. Honda 4 bangers have a lack of torque because they are FWD and all that torque wouldn't get put to the ground.
Ok take a B18 and mod it up to 300hp and get a Fox Body mustang 5.0 lighten it up and get the motor to 300hp. With both of those cars around the same weight the V8 would win. The simple fact that it has more TQ will force it to accelerate faster. what is flawed about that? It's simple.
OMG you are such a moron I am saying if they were about the same weight with a V8 with 300hp and a 4cyl with 300hp the V8 would win. TQ is determined by the power in the cylinders times the length of the crank shaft. Since a V8 has a longer crank shaft and 4 more cyliners quess what it produces more TQ with that 300hp. So then it wins!!!!!!!!!!! What the fuck is so hard to understand. Yes you could make the honda lighter but I am talking about if they are the same weight dumbass.
stock weight for a Honda Civic coupe is around 2300lbs, take a fox body mustang 3000lb stock weight, strip it out and it weighs around 2400lbs I know this because I have done it. So both cars weigh about he same around 2300-2400lbs. Line them up and guess which one would win in that scenario. Please let me know if I need to break it down further for your simple mind.
if more tq ment a faster car then it would have to show it in the power unit, or hp. Hp takes both tq and rpm into account. using the simple laws of conservation 300hp does 300 hp worth of work. IF in fact, more tq but lower the rpm range but still made 300hp made a car faster, then by all laws of physics it was producing more than 300hp. energy in = energy out. 2 cars that weigh the same with same hp will be the same at acceleration. If a v8 with 300hp was faster than a 4 banger with 300hp then
either 1. the 4 banger was not producing 300hp 2, the v8 was producing more than 300hp 3, the weights were off. and finally 4, the overal power output over the 1/4 mile or race was not the same. just because a motor makes 300 peak, doesnt mean it always puts out 300hp. at which point you would have to compare hp curve over the time of the race. but 300hp is 300hp. its IMPOSSIBLE to be faster without producing more power. take some engineering classes and u will agree.
Well just like we had discussed that V8's do tend to make more power because they hold a higher TQ band due to the longer crank shaft. That is why the 2 cars with 300bhp each the V8 will win with it's higher tq band given the power to weight ratios are similar.
v8 make more power because there air mass flow per time is higher, than thus can use more fuel. and just becuase the peak power is the same, doesnt mean they are always putting out the same hp. The only reason a v8 and a 4banger with same power would win, is at a lower rpm, the v8 is producing more hp at that instance as compared to a 4 banger, it is always power output. compare the cars at every given instant. more power = faster car. if hp output is the same, they accel. the same
you are a fucking moron, sorry...screw the crank shaft length, longer crankshafts are BAD idiot because they tend to bend more easily, V8s make more power because THEY USUALLY HAVE MUCH MORE DISPLACEMENT...why dont we see many inline 12s running around? their crankshafts are HUGE
@DennisH22A You have no clue what you are talking about. Crank shaft length has a good part to do with the TQ you create. Yes displacement is a huge contribution as well. Long crank shafts being a problem? Then how to you explain the crank shaft on the 2JZ supra being stout as hell and able to handle 1,000whp? You are a fucking moron, once you really understand how an engine works then come talk shit.
@DennisH22A i think he wanted to say the stroke of the engine afects torque, which is true. and V8 don't make a lot of power but they make a lot of torque because there is 8 power strokes in one revolution. and straight engine configuration isn't a bad thing because the crankschaft would bend since its supported anyway, but because you would really ned a big engine bay to fit a straight 8 inside. and inline 10 and such engines are used alot when torque is needed more than the power,
???? On which occasion? a 4000 lb 350hp domestic vs a 2500 lb 250hp import?? Ive seen domestics pushing 500+ horses gets smashed on by 260 all motor hondas.
But that truck did in fact have more horsepower that the honda. RIght? More torque is good for heavy cars to get a good start but down the road where traction is not a issue more hp is better. Hondas dont need alot of torque because they are light and also fwd. Why dont you race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. RWD cars have an advantage you have to admit.
@getalife04 your off by 300lbs on boths cars they both weigh around 2500 but if ur talking about the 06 civic Si then yea its heavy but its closer to 2900lbs
You have to keep in mind not all cars making 200whp or whatever power will have the same TQ, nor will they have the same weight, nor traction, also driver's skill. Alot of variables. You say mid-high 14s, I say 13s. This car could probably run 16s all day with a crappy driver. It all depends dude. Owning a track doesn't mean you know what exact power or weight it has nor the skill of the driver.
low displacement engines will make 700na h/p at the same time your 6+litre engines will make 30 miles per gallon... have you ever by chance seen an f1 engine? modern ones, 2.4L, 750hp ALL MOTOR, whats that nascar? i think i found your carbeurator 79transam, i found it on the racetrack after i lapped you
Yea with 4x the displacement, you fucking jack ass. Your shitty 2 valve OHV, 19th century tech motor couldnt come close to producing even 100 hp per litre.
yeah you fucking dick-weed.. in a car that weighs 1/4 of a minivan and a transmission to back it... i bet this car runs 13.5 on street tires and can beet the shit out of any car on the track... your an idiot
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IF U WANA GO FAST, CHANGE YUR converter 2 vtec air flow converter,CHANGE YUR MOMMYS TIRES TO Performance tires,BUY A NICE TOP OF THE LINE CADILIAC CONVERTER,UES ULTRA SUPREME GAS,,
can someone tell me how much is for dyno tuning cuz i am thinking of getting dyno tuned but i dont know how much, i have a 2003 honda civic LX 1.7L i allready upgrade my air intake, muffler and Headers and i still want to go fast a bit more.
Its about $75 more or less depending where you go and where you live... I'd say with the modifications that you have it would be about 135 at the wheels though
O.k thanks 4 the info BTW what do they do at the dyno tuning, and what modification should i still get for my civic. i allready have the headers, intake and muffler. do you recomend performance chip.
thats it, 200?? my car is that stock, the song, is the SHIT, brings back old memories btw for those who dont kno its Inikamozi - Hotstepper "im the lyrical gangster" lol
It's pretty hard to put out 200whp all motor. My best friend had an00 civic si with a built LS Vtec with 12:1 even with a bizzy moto header he only put out 199whp and the car wasn't streetable at all because of the cams and the car would overheat if you beat on it in traffic. BTW his best time was 13.2 (1/4) witht the car stripped down. Props to anyone who can make 200 all motor
No, thats just the difference between Tuner and Ricer. all Motor means. All your money is dumped into just the engine with no POWER ADDERS. like Turbos and superchargers thats what all motor means. no turbo or supercharger/power adder of any kind.
you were saying the difference between tuner and ricer with "Its about putting the dollars under the hood instead of boy racer spoilers,wings and homosexual led lights." you didnt mention anything about no turbo or SC under the hood. which is why i was correctign you on that point. NA=all motor.
uh.. I've never lost to a honda.. not once.. ever. When hondas start getting fast you can let me know, ok? and 12's isn't fast. 13's are joke.. I ran a low 13 bone stock. But, I'm not here to talk about my car.. it's nice to get 200whp from a 4 cylinder.. but let's not try to kid ourselves into thinking it's some kind of powerhouse, ok?
@Marshmallowrex I know, i wasnt talking shit haha i was just saying i'd be happy with 200hp all motor as a daily driver shit i got a 2.1Liter crv-tec setup in my hatch as we speak its on my page... what setup u got in the rex?
HondaDreamss 9 months ago
@Marshmallowrex 200hp in this car can easily run low 13s. U wouldn't be happy about a i-4 making 100hp per liter? I hope you know domestics are the ones that shouldnt be happy about the power they make. I mean shit most common mustangs have v8 4.6 liter and they are only making 300whp on papers, thats fucking pathetic. I mean excuse my language but there is no replacement for displacement. If u have shitty displacement the race is over for you........ I dont even want to bring up power to weight
HondaDreamss 9 months ago
Guys really damn every video im on its this V-8s or imports are better bullshit. If its fast i dont give a fuck whats under the hood
Skater3z3b 1 year ago
@Skater3z3b YEAH... IF MY V8 HAULS ASS IM HAPPY. IF MY B16 HAULS ASS iM HAPPY
hernandadmx 10 months ago
well... my 1979 rx7 has a 351w v8 pushin 320-350 whp around 400+ hp on crank and it does 11.2 1/4 mile after i dyno it i hope it gets around 10.9 sec 1/4 mile it has a t-5 transmission and ford 8.8 rear differential thats freshly rebuilt
Diminish420 1 year ago
@Diminish420 - I know you boys are trying to compare dick sizes, but you guys just go in a straight line. That's nothing to be really proud of. Why not just put a Corvette engine in a Corolla and call it a day?
JLai1969 10 months ago
@JLai1969 i also autocross and circuit race and back road running
Diminish420 10 months ago
with big cams like the bc4's you should be making 220whp easy
aracus13 1 year ago
What kinda motor setup are you running in there? all honda parts or aftermarket?
aracus13 1 year ago
hahaha v-tek
winky889 1 year ago 3
yo dawg i heard you like vtec, so we set it up so you can hit vtec, while your hitting vtec
ashylarry0948 2 years ago
yo dawg if dis had vtec the torque steer generated would have ripped the dyno apart... fo sho...
innie721 2 years ago
he is saying 200 wheel hp..
blera1987ks 2 years ago
No vtec?
filthydirtyhooker 2 years ago
i have a 1999 civic dx with a LSvtec push 204 hp and 150 tq. any civic under 230 hp can handle stock injectors.
Tricia6187 2 years ago
keep it stock with si rims :)
spike0323 2 years ago
well thats not a b16 then ? 2.0L is a b18 right ?
Vince3k 2 years ago
B16 is a 1.6L B18 is a 1.8L and a B20 is a 2.0L
getalife04 2 years ago
to all those noobs below me.
P= (TR)/5252
P= power, in horsepower
T= torque, measured in lb/ft
R= Engine speed, in RPMs
Therefore:
Horsepower= (torque x RPMs) / 5252
Try it- pull out a dyno and see what you get.
DemoFly 2 years ago 2
what song is this
dcin1 2 years ago
Man are people seriously impressed by 200whp? I mean wtf lol this car makes 160whp stock so 200whp isn't shit. I am making 400whp in my WRX and I would ruin this thing in a heart beat. 200whp GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
getalife04 3 years ago
if you dont like this why you spend your time watching it, and remember, our hondas are ff not awd so you know it would be harder for us to get traction with a lot of power, but from a rolling drag race you are the one who would be history. Dont hate support our love for cars.
dc52002 3 years ago
why in the hell do guys like you think that WRX's lose in a rolling race because they are AWD. If it is AWD there is no drag from tires that are not providing power. With a FWD car you are dragging your rear wheels and in a RWD car you are pushing your front wheels that are creating drag. Nothing is better than an AWD in a race. Just face it. I respect your love for cars I really do, I just laugh at you guys being impressed with a 200hp car LMFAO.
getalife04 3 years ago
awd has faster hole shot but slower top speed, any rear or front wheel drive car with 2/3 of your power would beat you in a rolling race, and why is it that skylines start as an awd and then switches to rwd.
P.S. skunk2 hybrid k20 has 300hp N/A and its in the 9 sec 1/4 mile car, FWD
dc52002 3 years ago
just try to make a subaru with no turbo get to 200hp, without nos
dc52002 3 years ago
Easy, Impreza 2.5RS is non turbo and if you change out the heads from an STi and upgrade the cam you will have 230hp easy. they start with 180hp so that would be easy as hell. Care to try me again?
getalife04 3 years ago
thats not going to happen because a impreza on a dyno stock will never get even close to 140hp, not even your sti on a dyno gets their clamed 300hp the most they produce is 230hp no more than that dont believe me check turbo magazine. now care to try me again? subaru GURU?jajaja HAHA
dc52002 3 years ago
Yeah dumb ass that is because the 300hp the STi claims is at the flywheel like EVERY car that is produced. They ALWAYS claim the hp and tq at the flywheel. Yet a stock Impreza runs low 14's in the 1/4 because it makes 190lb/ft of torque. Torque makes a lot of difference, trust me I see cars like this at the track all the time and one guy I know is a really good driver can only manage 14.30's in the 1/4.
getalife04 3 years ago
an impreza will never hit not even the low 15's
dc52002 3 years ago
thats what im taking about fuck haters
xAnthony528 3 years ago
wots the tune name?
lilcow418 3 years ago
Damn You guys are a bunch of haterz.... Yall bitches in here are a bunch of haterz and should really go get a life. I know that dude and that car spank alot of asses trust me. I was there. So go check yall self bitches.
flsoulja 3 years ago
Wow "ge check yall self bitches" that is about the most idiotic thing I think that I have heard in a long time. That car can't spank shit making 200whp lol that isn't anything. whats it run 15's? My mom's bone stock maxima would eat that thing alive. Not to mention my WRX would ruin that thing in a heart beat.
getalife04 3 years ago
200whp in that car is 13's
Asif22 3 years ago 5
@Asif22 damn for reals 13's lol 200whp. on a coupe. tats nice
b16a2allmotor 1 year ago
@Asif22 true true its all about weight
shonzy7 1 year ago
200WHP in that car would make it about 13 for the quarter on street tires.
Bapesta916 3 years ago
LMFAO!! Yeah ok keep telling yourself that. It would be in the mid to high 14's I can GUARANTEE you it wouldn't see the 13's until it gets to around 250WHP. Trust me I know I am the co-owner of a 1/4 mile track I see cars like this every night and they NEVER get close to the 13's until they are at least 250hp to the ground.
getalife04 3 years ago
I guess that calculator on dragsourceDotnet is off then huh? Guessing the car with driver is no heavier than 2,600 with 200whp showed a estimated 13.67 1/4 mile time. Even if traction was a problem I doubt you'd be running mid-14s. Mid-high 13s is my guess. I've seen alot of hatches with around 200whp run low 13s on street tires, no spray. Sure you are a co-owner of a track, but you act like you know what every car dyno's and weighs in at.
Bapesta916 3 years ago
WOW you actually go by a "drag calculator" lol we have a name for those here at the track, it's called a "keep dreaming" calculator. You want to know why? Because they always say on those that they are not exactly accurate because wind, elevation, driver skill, traction, track conditions and humidity all play into what you will run at the track. And where I am at is rougly 3,000 ft above sea level. And civics with 200whp do NOT hit the 13's.
getalife04 3 years ago
well i have an rsx type s with 197hp with I/H/E and manage to do 13.617 @ 102.51 mph.
dc52002 3 years ago
Yeah but you have the K20 which makes alot better torque than a B16 or B18. I bet you are around 190 ft lbs of torque though too. And the civic with 200whp makes around 150 to 160 ft lbs which makes alot of difference. Around half a second or more I would say.
getalife04 3 years ago
wrong i wish, seems to me that you dont know that much about hondas, i have 142tq, hondas are high hp and half the torque, compared to most of the diferent car manufactures,
dc52002 3 years ago
Yeah they have half the torque because they are half the car. And that is funny because my friend has an RSX type s with I/H/E with a tune and he has 202hp and 165 ft lbs of torque. So evidently you don't have something set up right.
getalife04 3 years ago
he must have k20/k24 to get that kind of tq with does boltons only, i dont have k-pro or anything to tune, so theres nothing to tune, when people start offending other people about there cars is when they are lacking ways discuss back at, i think subarus are great cars in thier area, and thats rally, honda circuit racing, anyway, ive raced wrx with simple bolt ons, owned them, but when it comes to youre kind of hp not my league, but if i get to 250hp, that could change, not drag, rolling race.
dc52002 3 years ago
Yeah well the only thing about honda's is that you can only get to about the high 12's before you just need to make it a major project and just rip everything apart and go turbo or major nitrous shot. Everyone keeps telling me to go methanol or something but I am not going to do that. I love the set up that I have now and I don't plan on changing it. I can smoke most everything on the street because muscle cars that can beat me at the track can't on the street because of traction. Untouchable!:D
getalife04 3 years ago
seemsl ike you know alot about hondas or cars. how long does it take to dyno a car?
poormanstyperb16 3 years ago
LOL well there isn't an EXACT amount of time that it takes. sorry but that is an odd question. I have a feeling that you are being sarcastic.
getalife04 3 years ago
lol no for reals im serious does it take alot of time to dyno it right or jsut one run on the dyno and thats it? never been to a dyno shop =)
poormanstyperb16 3 years ago
Well if you just want to find out your hp and not do anything then you can just do one run but if you are doing a "dyno tune" which I would rather do a street tune but then there could be several runs depending on what all they need to change.
getalife04 3 years ago
o i c that kinda sucks cuz i hate it when some other people gets to punch the gas pedal instead of meself that kinda pissess me off =(. thnx for the infos.
poormanstyperb16 3 years ago
wrong where i live there is an integra gsr with 280hp all motor, no nos, doing 11.8 at 117mph, it is an street car, he goes to college with it every day, an hour 15 drive, oh i fotgot on street tires
dc52002 3 years ago
last time I checked an integra GSR weighs around 2700lbs or 2800lbs. That would put it at about a 12.7 - 12.8 in the 1/4 It would need to be lightened to around 2200lbs to get to an 11.8. With 280hp I am sure that it is quick don't get me wrong but unless he has lightened it up alot I don't see him getting into the 11's. But I know this civic SI stock is 2800lbs and that would but this around high 13's in the 1/4.
getalife04 3 years ago
well the only thing i know is that he has carbon fiber hood and trunk, and that when he takes it to the track takes of the all the seats except for his
dc52002 3 years ago
well idk he might be quick than I think then because idk the weight of the seats and stuff. But he could be in the 12's but I just don't see 11's on a car with that HP granted it is a light car but that is saying also that he can shift like a mother fucker and that he has a launch like no other.
getalife04 3 years ago
he does 1.7 in the 60ft, believe me that little guy does know how to drive, his been the owner of that car for the past 6 years, he understands that car. not many people do that, i had a civic i did unterstand it to, but with my rsx not yet getting there, the thing with is that my cars behavior changes depending on the type of tire i put on
dc52002 3 years ago
1.7 in the 60ft is pretty good for a FWD car. I do the 60ft in 1.1 seconds.
getalife04 3 years ago
weight isn't everything nor is hp. so much of it has to do with torque, the tune, the suspension and tires. also, knowing the car. redlining every gear isn't always the best way to drag. it takes looking at the dyno chart, where the most power is, which is usually at the top, but not in all cases. so before you go bench racing saying that just because a car weighs a certain amount, make sure you take into consideration all the other variables that go into play. another factor is the altitude
nordicmist2 2 years ago
when it comes down to it yes altitude does matter but both cars racing with have the same advantage there. I am talking about power to weight ratio and I am very well aware that torque is what really wins races. I am part owner of a drag strip so trust me I know all of the variables and possibilities I see it all the time.
getalife04 2 years ago
hm, are you saying that science and physics is wrong. YOu may own a drag strip, but that doesnt make you qualified to talk about power. For 1. hp is the amount of energy produced from the motor. That energy transfers into kinetic energy, i.e. velocity. More power = more acceleration. IF more tq made a car with 200hp faster, then it fucking has to be producing more power. Go to school for Mechanical Engineering then come talk. its all about power output. not crank tq output.
logic2reason 2 years ago
Not only am I part owner of a drag strip but also I am NHRA certified drag racer AND I am a master certified mechanic. I have been working on cars since I was 6 and my hobby is tuning cars and modifying them I mod civics all the time and mod for mod a V8 will always make more power. So trust me I have been around cars most of my life and I certainly know what in the hell I am talking about.
getalife04 2 years ago
hp is the amount of tq that can be applied, given the output shaft speed. The slower the wheel rotates. The more tq it can apply. This is why 1st gear pulls harder than 2nd, etc. But more power output will always mean more avaliable tq@ any given velocity. 250hp always wins over 200. laws of thermodynamics state this. becuase 250hp is or can apply more tq than 200. Crank tq has nothing to do with how fast it can go. its only 1/2 of the story.
logic2reason 2 years ago
yeah ok because you are a mechanical engineer that makes you an expert on how fast cars are? hmmm ok have you EVER even been to a drag strip? My guess is no. Let me put it this way take a 2.0L 4 cylinder making 300hp but only 220 ft lbs which is about average output for a 300hp honda vs a fox body mustang 5.0 with say a cam intake you know 300hp motor but it makes 280 ft lbs or torque and is heavier than a honda. Who wins? The mustang because the extra TQ is the FORCE that pushes the car along.
getalife04 2 years ago
The funny part is, this particular honda weighs about as much as an aluminum block fox.
f20cmx5 2 years ago
no, its becuase as a mechanical engineer, i study the idea of energy transfer, which i promise you, you do not understand. Which is why we are in this conversation.
energy trasfer means you cannot destroy or create energy. So when your motor creates 300hp, it has to be accounted for when you talk about the mass (car) moving. .... IF, more tq made the car faster, then BY MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS< THE MOTOR WAS PRODUCING MORE POWER!!!!! you stupid fuck. GOD DAMN
logic2reason 2 years ago
Ok well apparently you have NEVER worked on a car and know nothing about engine displacement and how a motor ACTUALLY works.
getalife04 2 years ago
Correction. I design them. And know EXACTLY how they work. my only problem is YOu think you do. Becuase it takes more than undoing some bolts to know WHY things are the way they are. so im going to call your Bullshit, like everyone else and challange you to a debate. So just P.m. me for one. But you probably wont cuase your a bitch. energy transfer always wins... so in other words... HP ALWAYS WINS!. YOu cant get a fucking car to move without POWER!!!
logic2reason 2 years ago
HP is the energy that is produced within the cylinders BUT TQ is the force the crank uses to drive the gears in the transmission and through the driveline and to the ground. SO let me explain this again TQ is the force that MOVES the CAR!!! I am telling you like up a 4 cylinder with 300hp and a V8 with 300hp and I PROMISE you that the V8 will win because it produces more torque. WTF is so hard to understand about that?
getalife04 2 years ago
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong. The honda would eat that mustang like no other. HP Always wins. Take a Hummer H1 if you look at its power number you will see that it makes nearly 500 ft/lb of torque and about 190 HP. So since it has 500 TQ by your explanation it would have to be faster than, hmm lets say a BMW M3. LOL Wrong Wrong Wrong. HP wins all the time. Expecially in Hondas. Power to weight ratio is all that counts.
senciz 2 years ago
Did you seriously just bring a 4 ton hummer H1 into the equation? In my comparison I said have the cars around the same weight 4 cylinder with 300hp and a V8 with around 300hp with the cars being around the same weight the V8 will win. I don't think you really got what I was trying to say YES obviously power to weight ration is a consideration but I have seen a 4 ton Dodge 2500 with 1,000 ft lbs of TQ outrun a 320hp honda so TQ does make a difference, it had like 500hp but diesels are TQ beasts!
getalife04 2 years ago
But that truck did in fact have more horsepower that the honda. RIght? More torque is good for heavy cars to get a good start but down the road where traction is not a issue more hp is better. Hondas dont need alot of torque because they are light and also fwd. Why dont you race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. RWD cars have an advantage you have to admit.
senciz 2 years ago
yeah it was 500hp vs the honda's 320whp BUT if you think about it there is a HUGE weight difference between the two lol. Yes power to weight ratio is a big thing but I am just saying that get a V8 with the same hp as a 4 banger with roughly the same weight the V8 wins because it makes more TQ. Why people don't understand that i don't know. Yeah the more hp you have the more TQ you make yeah that is a mathematical certainty but in the end V8's win. Just a fact.
getalife04 2 years ago
You fucking idiot the V8 wins because it is a RWD which has an advantage. Like I said race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. GET IT. You dont know what you are talking about so STFU already do your self and the world a favor and put a gun to your dumb head and blow your useless brains out will you.
senciz 2 years ago
RWD is only an advantage of the line you fucking douche bag! Depending on the weight difference between the cobalt and the honda the cobalt would certainly have a chance to win unless there was like a 1,000lb difference. You are a fucking moron and not even worth trying to ague with. The cobalt would win hands down.
getalife04 2 years ago
No the Cobalt would not win. Like I said FWD cars do not benefit from gobs of TQ so if the weight was the same and the Honda has 300 HP and 190 TQ and the Cobalt had the same HP but 280 TQ the cobalt would be spinning out of the hole while that Honda with way less TQ is well on its way to wining. LOL I dont care if you are a master of Physics and all but until you get in a type of car that we are talking about you wont know what it feels like and how cars react.
senciz 2 years ago
There is a major flaw with your argument. First off all if a v8 is making the same hp as a 4 banger. Something is seriously wrong. Secondly My money would go to the four bang. TQ isn't everything and the 4 banger would be lighter, probably about 200 pounds lighter. Quite the difference. . A lot of euro cars with 4 bangers have almost equal tq and hp ratios. Honda 4 bangers have a lack of torque because they are FWD and all that torque wouldn't get put to the ground.
unrest101 2 years ago
Ok take a B18 and mod it up to 300hp and get a Fox Body mustang 5.0 lighten it up and get the motor to 300hp. With both of those cars around the same weight the V8 would win. The simple fact that it has more TQ will force it to accelerate faster. what is flawed about that? It's simple.
getalife04 2 years ago
why not lighten up the b18? and what shell are you putting this b18c into? you're argument is flawed.
unrest101 2 years ago
OMG you are such a moron I am saying if they were about the same weight with a V8 with 300hp and a 4cyl with 300hp the V8 would win. TQ is determined by the power in the cylinders times the length of the crank shaft. Since a V8 has a longer crank shaft and 4 more cyliners quess what it produces more TQ with that 300hp. So then it wins!!!!!!!!!!! What the fuck is so hard to understand. Yes you could make the honda lighter but I am talking about if they are the same weight dumbass.
getalife04 2 years ago
a 4 cylinder weights half the weight... TQ gets you off the line HP carries you home :P
The cars would never weigh the same.
unrest101 2 years ago
stock weight for a Honda Civic coupe is around 2300lbs, take a fox body mustang 3000lb stock weight, strip it out and it weighs around 2400lbs I know this because I have done it. So both cars weigh about he same around 2300-2400lbs. Line them up and guess which one would win in that scenario. Please let me know if I need to break it down further for your simple mind.
getalife04 2 years ago
if more tq ment a faster car then it would have to show it in the power unit, or hp. Hp takes both tq and rpm into account. using the simple laws of conservation 300hp does 300 hp worth of work. IF in fact, more tq but lower the rpm range but still made 300hp made a car faster, then by all laws of physics it was producing more than 300hp. energy in = energy out. 2 cars that weigh the same with same hp will be the same at acceleration. If a v8 with 300hp was faster than a 4 banger with 300hp then
logic2reason 2 years ago
either 1. the 4 banger was not producing 300hp 2, the v8 was producing more than 300hp 3, the weights were off. and finally 4, the overal power output over the 1/4 mile or race was not the same. just because a motor makes 300 peak, doesnt mean it always puts out 300hp. at which point you would have to compare hp curve over the time of the race. but 300hp is 300hp. its IMPOSSIBLE to be faster without producing more power. take some engineering classes and u will agree.
logic2reason 2 years ago
In case you don't remember you and I have been through this SEVERAL times before. So I am not going through all this shit again lol.
getalife04 2 years ago
well then one of us didnt learn :)
logic2reason 2 years ago
Well just like we had discussed that V8's do tend to make more power because they hold a higher TQ band due to the longer crank shaft. That is why the 2 cars with 300bhp each the V8 will win with it's higher tq band given the power to weight ratios are similar.
getalife04 2 years ago
v8 make more power because there air mass flow per time is higher, than thus can use more fuel. and just becuase the peak power is the same, doesnt mean they are always putting out the same hp. The only reason a v8 and a 4banger with same power would win, is at a lower rpm, the v8 is producing more hp at that instance as compared to a 4 banger, it is always power output. compare the cars at every given instant. more power = faster car. if hp output is the same, they accel. the same
logic2reason 2 years ago
you are a fucking moron, sorry...screw the crank shaft length, longer crankshafts are BAD idiot because they tend to bend more easily, V8s make more power because THEY USUALLY HAVE MUCH MORE DISPLACEMENT...why dont we see many inline 12s running around? their crankshafts are HUGE
DennisH22A 2 years ago
@DennisH22A You have no clue what you are talking about. Crank shaft length has a good part to do with the TQ you create. Yes displacement is a huge contribution as well. Long crank shafts being a problem? Then how to you explain the crank shaft on the 2JZ supra being stout as hell and able to handle 1,000whp? You are a fucking moron, once you really understand how an engine works then come talk shit.
getalife04 2 years ago
@DennisH22A i think he wanted to say the stroke of the engine afects torque, which is true. and V8 don't make a lot of power but they make a lot of torque because there is 8 power strokes in one revolution. and straight engine configuration isn't a bad thing because the crankschaft would bend since its supported anyway, but because you would really ned a big engine bay to fit a straight 8 inside. and inline 10 and such engines are used alot when torque is needed more than the power,
svedr 1 year ago
???? On which occasion? a 4000 lb 350hp domestic vs a 2500 lb 250hp import?? Ive seen domestics pushing 500+ horses gets smashed on by 260 all motor hondas.
Xtraordinary70 2 years ago 12
@Xtraordinary70 me too :D
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But that truck did in fact have more horsepower that the honda. RIght? More torque is good for heavy cars to get a good start but down the road where traction is not a issue more hp is better. Hondas dont need alot of torque because they are light and also fwd. Why dont you race a 300 hp 280 tq cobalt vs a 300 hp 190 tq honda, both on street tires and see who wins. RWD cars have an advantage you have to admit.
senciz 2 years ago
@getalife04 your off by 300lbs on boths cars they both weigh around 2500 but if ur talking about the 06 civic Si then yea its heavy but its closer to 2900lbs
91DAintegraB20 1 year ago
@91DAintegraB20 Well either way I would much rather keep my WRX than own a honda.
getalife04 1 year ago
thats hard to beliave i think ur fool of shit
SALINASBOZZ 3 years ago
takes one person full of shit to recognize another one full of shit
dc52002 3 years ago
You have to keep in mind not all cars making 200whp or whatever power will have the same TQ, nor will they have the same weight, nor traction, also driver's skill. Alot of variables. You say mid-high 14s, I say 13s. This car could probably run 16s all day with a crappy driver. It all depends dude. Owning a track doesn't mean you know what exact power or weight it has nor the skill of the driver.
Bapesta916 3 years ago
oo wow 200 stock, i bet you car isnt a 1.6L ass...
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
b16a2..yes its a 1.6 but ported out to a 2.0..stfu
Xtraordinary70 3 years ago
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Wow...200 WHP. Almost minivan status.
3800GTV6 3 years ago
why are you shifting at 8? is that where your power drops off at?
itsjdmdean 3 years ago
song??please..someone??
santatez 3 years ago
go look up some music then ass-clown!
k20Lver 3 years ago
ignorance
RAMBO225 3 years ago
low displacement engines will make 700na h/p at the same time your 6+litre engines will make 30 miles per gallon... have you ever by chance seen an f1 engine? modern ones, 2.4L, 750hp ALL MOTOR, whats that nascar? i think i found your carbeurator 79transam, i found it on the racetrack after i lapped you
patman1237 3 years ago
Sounds like a prop air plane ....
gibbletz 3 years ago
With a K20 you can make 200WHP with just bolt-ons I/H/E so its not surprising this civic made 200WHP.
My uncle has a K24/K20. He makes 300WHP ALL MOTOR
pogox 3 years ago
K20 is expensive unless it's a hot motor. There are way cheaper set ups running 200WHP all motor for half the price of a K20.
Bapesta916 3 years ago
Yea with 4x the displacement, you fucking jack ass. Your shitty 2 valve OHV, 19th century tech motor couldnt come close to producing even 100 hp per litre.
Mikew995 3 years ago
that was gay more like WEK SOS!!!
srt4edgar 4 years ago
yay look at me im gonna put my stock car on a dyno just to show my friends back home how cool i am
JDMmachine 4 years ago
whats the name of the song at the end
coolikd373 4 years ago
wow, how do you possibly handle such a massive amount of power??? That thing has 200 hp, it would blow the doors off my corvette.
Long Live American Iron
gmykitiak 4 years ago
whats funny is your "american iron" is actually aluminum ,tard
Euphorica 4 years ago
its a figure of speach
ampd103 3 years ago
hes not defending it like its god but 200hp is alot for a civic at the wheels Dont hate appreciate, redneck
datstunna420 4 years ago 2
i dont believe its even 200whp. where is the vtec cross over. check you wiring.
mathewtsab 4 years ago
yeah you fucking dick-weed.. in a car that weighs 1/4 of a minivan and a transmission to back it... i bet this car runs 13.5 on street tires and can beet the shit out of any car on the track... your an idiot
toreyjw1 4 years ago
yeah, reliable, fast, and a honda :D
toreyjw1 4 years ago
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IF U WANA GO FAST, CHANGE YUR converter 2 vtec air flow converter,CHANGE YUR MOMMYS TIRES TO Performance tires,BUY A NICE TOP OF THE LINE CADILIAC CONVERTER,UES ULTRA SUPREME GAS,,
HONDACIVICSI1 4 years ago
did he just rite cadiliac... sad sad sad
ampd103 3 years ago
can someone tell me how much is for dyno tuning cuz i am thinking of getting dyno tuned but i dont know how much, i have a 2003 honda civic LX 1.7L i allready upgrade my air intake, muffler and Headers and i still want to go fast a bit more.
mark6020cc 4 years ago
Its about $75 more or less depending where you go and where you live... I'd say with the modifications that you have it would be about 135 at the wheels though
datstunna420 4 years ago
O.k thanks 4 the info BTW what do they do at the dyno tuning, and what modification should i still get for my civic. i allready have the headers, intake and muffler. do you recomend performance chip.
mark6020cc 4 years ago
whast kind of rims r those and whats motor is it?let me know ur set up
ma1vin110 4 years ago
hahaa.. someone mentioned a ford on here. wtf.
doggystyledave 4 years ago
lol-
toreyjw1 4 years ago
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shoulda just turboed dat hoe
DurtySoufHustla 4 years ago
you should go die nigga
toreyjw1 4 years ago
lol, what a waste of money. K > B
jdmk20aek 4 years ago
yup :-)
FeelTehBa55 4 years ago
thats it, 200?? my car is that stock, the song, is the SHIT, brings back old memories btw for those who dont kno its Inikamozi - Hotstepper "im the lyrical gangster" lol
Born2BuBalla1 4 years ago
oo wow 200 stock, i bet you car isnt a 1.6L ass...
magicn3ss 4 years ago 2
nice setup
gary262k 4 years ago
lol
Euphorica 4 years ago
my buddy has an svt focus that puts out 200hp all motor. nothing but a new throttle body cams intake and exhaust
focusfrk 4 years ago
to the wheels??? your friends svt focus does put out 200hp to the wheels with just a new throttle, cams, intake and exhaust. lol
Bapesta916 3 years ago
sounds liek a WW2 propeled airplane XD
AdemJashari56 4 years ago
lolol it does
boostedh22lude 4 years ago
dive dive dive
AdemJashari56 4 years ago
It's pretty hard to put out 200whp all motor. My best friend had an00 civic si with a built LS Vtec with 12:1 even with a bizzy moto header he only put out 199whp and the car wasn't streetable at all because of the cams and the car would overheat if you beat on it in traffic. BTW his best time was 13.2 (1/4) witht the car stripped down. Props to anyone who can make 200 all motor
marksranger 4 years ago
ROTFL ! 200 wheel horse my ass !!!!
MotorIHead 4 years ago
nice man keep it all motor fuck all that turbo bs man
teddywx 4 years ago
LoL... If now K build he's going boosted B lol
Le4k 4 years ago
wtf??all hondas sports car r all motor..this guy funnie
TaLoCc 4 years ago
how do u do to make ur honda all motor?? is that a special setup?? what is the setup??
bobfull 4 years ago
Its about putting the dollars under the hood instead of boy racer spoilers,wings and homosexual led lights.
kwambartie 4 years ago
No, thats just the difference between Tuner and Ricer. all Motor means. All your money is dumped into just the engine with no POWER ADDERS. like Turbos and superchargers thats what all motor means. no turbo or supercharger/power adder of any kind.
Chizel666 4 years ago
In europe we call those naturally aspirated. thanks anyway
kwambartie 4 years ago
you were saying the difference between tuner and ricer with "Its about putting the dollars under the hood instead of boy racer spoilers,wings and homosexual led lights." you didnt mention anything about no turbo or SC under the hood. which is why i was correctign you on that point. NA=all motor.
Chizel666 4 years ago
As i said thank you. youre right..
kwambartie 4 years ago
Oh, thought you were being a smart ass lol my bad
Chizel666 4 years ago
lol ok thx i know what u mean : ...instead of boy racer spoilers,wings and homosexual led lights LOL!!!!!!
bobfull 4 years ago
All motor is without chargers or turbos.
Bapesta916 3 years ago
nice
Tiburonmvt 4 years ago
i love all motor, but sorry id take my turbo lude over this
retardedfolks 4 years ago
n e 1 kno the name of the song at the end?
asg631 4 years ago
thats sick.
let the pointless shit talking continue...
seen 4 years ago
nice, civic kngz28 is stupid redneck who most likely drives a inbreed trashy 80s camaro!
lightknight79 4 years ago
this is the dyno at CARTEK TUNING right?
gen2integra 4 years ago
Yeah in Davie.
II0IIIII 4 years ago
ey bro is that monster still a stock block b16a?
zooRacing 4 years ago
n e 1 know the name of the song at the end?
asg631 4 years ago
I just put down 445rwhp in a heads/cam 99 Z28...
ALL MOTOR!
KngZ28 4 years ago
your an ass man cause you have more pistons give the guy some damn credit man shit
x0italianh0ttiex 4 years ago
nice how many liters?
rexnprimo 4 years ago
omg no one asked you my ls1 has high specs too loser but his engine is half the size of yours
rblaze2k7 4 years ago
not my fault he handicapped himself with a 4 banger.
KngZ28 4 years ago
thats cool man i bet you lose to a lot of "slow" hondas huh??
gonefishn87 4 years ago
uh.. I've never lost to a honda.. not once.. ever. When hondas start getting fast you can let me know, ok? and 12's isn't fast. 13's are joke.. I ran a low 13 bone stock. But, I'm not here to talk about my car.. it's nice to get 200whp from a 4 cylinder.. but let's not try to kid ourselves into thinking it's some kind of powerhouse, ok?
KngZ28 4 years ago