Dogs 101- Komondor

[fastlane0231]

nice dreads

[MrNevillebamshoot]

Rasta dog!

[ydconverse29]

eww someone counted the cords

[sveniest]

haha komondorok is the plural of the komondor in hungarian language but we have nothing in common with english.

[SuperKittyKatKitty]

It looks exactly like a mop! :o

[TheGman629]

lol thats so funny the dog is like a sniper with a ghillie suit on

[petguineapigs0987654]

Well I don't have this type of breed but I want one

[petguineapigs0987654]

My mom laughed so hard when she heard "mop".She told me she will never use our mop anymore because we have the Komondor!

[twoweirdppl]

Could you shave off the locks of hair? Just wondering

[borom79]

@twoweirdppl In the past, the shepards shearing komondors just like sheeps. :)

[mohamed061996]

ew

[kickingdaisy]

ugh 

[nicolabearpaw5]

those dogs look discusting no offence i hate dredlocks

[lakatlan3]

it's a hungarian dog :)

[69Mikage]

Looks like a walking mop...Or if they jump over something,a Flying mop!!!

[TannahofKaos]

It's a white Bob Marley!

[roderick198]

There are 2 other breeds that i know that have dredlocks, the bergamasco and puli

[culturik]

2:32 Requires an experienced stoner?

Dog looks like bob marley? mhmmmmm

[dmrvf]

rasta dog

[IvyLeunig]

i didn't know what this dog was called for years... i always just called it the mop dog :P

[PockyFlavouredKisses]

Gaaah I just wanna cuddle it <3

[Hadra568]

That is a ball of yarn that has developed its own respiratory system

[sangvinhun]

it's a shepard dog, it's not good for pet. and yeah its willfull

and i've never heard of them being a cause of makeing wolfs disappear (and this dog is natice to my country) i think its not stronger than a wolf and especially no chance vs a wolf pack. a bear would rip it apart. e

it's plural is komondorok cause in hungarian "-k" means plural like -s in english :)

[reddwarfposse]

The video is surprisingly accurate. They are extremely willful and independent. They are also very affectionate and quite calm.

And yes, they do all have that same stupid (yet happy) facial expression.

[bethpheonixhasapenis]

since when is michelle obama an expert on dogs? :/ lol

[CoronaTheFatCat]

I swear to bejesus I thought this dog was just a living mop. O_O There's another, little black version of it too, lol. Can't remember the name of it though.

[Xredator]

@CoronaTheFatCat that's the Puli :)

[SuperEszti]

@CoronaTheFatCat It's not a version, it's a different breed called puli. They are great Hungarian shepherd dogs, too. :)

[hotpockets222]

When a BEAR or a WOLF come to attack the livestock, THAT DOG CAN FEND EITHER ONE OFF? I have a hard time believing especially a bear would decide it's not worth it when threatened by a dog.

[maxandsyd14]

my friend has this dog and leves it outside of the karate stodio we go to. the first time i saw it i was like who left there black sparring gear bag outside?

[iluvyamamototakeshi]

0:49 - six wolves and six dislikes: what does that tell ya? xD

[bildrogas]

it s a horrible dog

[howrse155]

@bildrogas and you have a horrible face,

[bildrogas]

@howrse155 not like yours...

[howrse155]

@bildrogas You just came to make people notice.. im not trying to start a fight but you don't have to put it up, i mean you could of putting that sentence in your head and not write about it, this name calling would never happen

[NINJAinTIGHTS]

@howrse155 A bear might be able to rip a Komandor (or any other dog breed for that matter) apart but the sudden realization that the sheep it was stalking actually has razor sharp teeth and is actually attacking it might scare it off. Oh and wolfs aren't even an issue. That thick coat not only masks the dog but also protects it during battle and given its large size the Komandor can overpower the wolf and kill or seriously hurt it.

[0rchids303]

@NINJAinTIGHTS Europe has small black bears. A dog like a Komandor can easily get rid of those bears. Regardless if it was startled or not. In North American it won't be able to get rid of bears though, as we have the biggest bears on the planet. Grizzly bears, and Polar bears (Canada). This dog won't be able to protect the stock in North America against bears. They're adorable non the less. If I owned one, I'd brush it 3 times a day so it wouldn't get dreadlocks though :D

[sisimoto]

@NINJAinTIGHTS The name is Komondor! :) In addition,some history lesson.Many genuine Hungarian shepherd dog breeds like the Komondor,Puli,Pumi,Kuvasz or Vizsla where brutally murdered by the invadeing soviet troops in WW2 because these dogs fiercely tried to protect the homes of their owners,their family...Sad but true.

[NINJAinTIGHTS]

@sisimoto Yeah it's indeed sad but the again it was WW2. Plenty of horrible stuff happened in those 6 years. Oh and you guys have a lot of shepherd dog breeds jeez! We (Bulgarian) only have one. Mind you the BSD is an utterly amazing dog breed so I can't really complain.

[ceeeke707]

i got this dog and it is dying ='(

[awesomeness2003xoxo]

its a mop NOT a dog =P lol

[SH1THEAD96]

LOL it looks like a ghillie suit

[MeFromTheIsland]

Hahaha, ghilliesuit-mop-dog :p 

[PartyanimaL626]

if the komonder were in a war it'd be a sniper

[191chedon1]

not buying that!!!

[landlords77]

Looks like a white ghillie suit...

[robotpanda77]

My neighbor had one and he would always come over and steal my bowl of cheerios in the morning. Once he stole my car and took it for a joyride around town. What a rascal he was.

[malbrough3]

Spunky's soulmate.

[inotaishu1]

Camouflage hm? Weird, the same thing is said of the white color of e.g. Great Pyrenese, they don't seem to need the braids for that. The most common explanation I heard for the Komondor's fur is that the braids channel water away.

Anyway, I have a book from 1921 depicting a Komondor and although that dog had braids they weren't even half as long as on these ones and the face was completely free.

And is there proof for the Hammurabi story?

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

They also mentioned how the coat protected the Komondorok from wolves - the cords were thick enough to prevent serious injury to their bodies.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat And they are so thick that they would be a hindrance. Also, if that is such a good protection, why don't all these other livestock guardian dogs have that?

Just because the dog 101 says so doesn't m inclined to believe it, not with the gross errors they had in their videos.

Therefore, is there any proof to these claims? Because they also claimed that bulldogs look that way for bullfights, but you don't see those dogs in the ring, neither past nor present.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

It's clearly not a hindrance, as they have been guarding their flocks for ages now and they're known for being excellent guards for flocks of sheep.

Why in God's name are you so aggressive? You have a massive chip on your shoulder.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Because these videos often state things that are not true.

Example:

dingos have been proven to bark years ago

there is no evidence of the modern bulldog to have ever thought in bullfights or being present in ancient Rome or Vict. England

The founding stock of the Basenji came from the thick forests of the Congo and were not used for lion hunts

And how do you know that the Komondor of old looked like the ones today? How old is the oldest picture/description you know?

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

No, of course - they grew the cords for style. The Hungarians were so concerned with appearances rather than utility that they styled the Komondorok just like that.

It all makes sense now.

Komondorok get those cords naturally - those cords aren't fashioned by humans. This means they've had them for some time, as it takes much longer than a few decades for nature to decide to give Komondorok those cords.

Your argument and your decision to argue with me on this is pointless.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Nature? You actually come up with nature? Hello? Have you ever checked how much the bullterrier, the pug or the bulldog got changed by breeders over the last century? Or the German Shepherd, the Basset or the Dachshund? Are you gonna claim that they look the way they do now in the show ring because of Nature?

Again, have you any proof that the Komondor actually had those long cords for the alleged purpose? If yes, name it.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

Yes.

You're being an asshole by disregarding nature - the cords, as I have said, are natural - they would not have developed overnight.

Stop being a cunt.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Nature? Ever heard of selective breeding? That would be a perfectly reasonable explanation. With inbreeding and selection for longer cords the current look could have been established over a few generations. Like I said, in "Der Deutsche Schäferhund in Wort und Bild" from 1921 I did see a Komondor. And although that one had cords it was nowhere near as long as the ones in the video and the face was free.

And actually yes, they could have been just fashion back then.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

Your argument is that they were bred for fashion in recent years.

You mad, cunt, you mad.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Well do you have proof or even reasonable argument for the contrary? Have you actual evidence that their current form is really traditional? So far you only complained but provided nothing.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

You keep responding.

Apparently, you haven't realized I won the argument.

You definitely mad.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Actually you have won nothing. You neither argued nor provided evidence. You simply state that you "won" and that I am "mad".

That is neither arguing nor ... well it is actually just very immature behavior and very disrespectful, not to mention revealing an unwillingness to admit a mistake.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

I have won the debate. You need to get over yourself, and continuing to pitch a shit fit as you've been doing is immature.

You are butthurt - stop getting so butthurt about being proved wrong.

By the way, you didn't answer my question. I guess you can't - LOL.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Of course I cannot proof it since there seems to be no actual research done on the subject, but neither could you proof your standpoint. But while I kept being polite you continued to insult me. While I provided evidence from outside sources, you simply repeated yourself and copied the video.

Basically you have proven absolutely nothing and didn't even provide a good argument.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

By the way, you complained first. I provided rational reasoning, while you bitched it wasn't good enough.

What proof do you have that they just recently obtained their coats for fashion? Get over yourself, you mad, mad cunt.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Of course I complained about a video I assumed to be misleading. That is my good right.

You didn't provide rational reasoning you simply copied what the video said and provided no sources that could either proof your statement or at least provide evidence for its validity.

I stated my reasons why I neither trust the video series and doubt that Komdondors have actually looked the way they are represented.

[KataclysmKat]

@inotaishu1

I did. I provided rational reasoning. Get over yourself son.

I stated why you're wrong. Try learning English, you nazi.

[inotaishu1]

@KataclysmKat Now you finally sawed off the branch you are sitting on.

[borom79]

@inotaishu1 What you see, is not a Komondor. It was the Kuvasz. It is an another hungarian guard dog.

The first time when writed down the standards was 1815 by Ferenc Pethe.

But the first time when appear the name in hungarian language was 1454 (kamondor or komondor). Then 1519 in the Codex of Debrecen named that kind of dog Komondor.

[inotaishu1]

@borom79 If you are referring to the 1921 book I mentioned than I can only say that the book called it Komondor and I happen to know what a Kuvasz is and what it looks like and the dog on the picture had no resemblence to a Kuvasz.

[borom79]

@inotaishu1 And some interesting things, may be interest: In the past the komondor named lot of different names. Such as: shaggy Hungarian shepherd dog, Silk-haired Wolf-Dog, Busty hair sheepdog.

The komondor is allways white. No other colour are accepted.

[borom79]

ehh half of my answer is lost :(

So once more: Maybe the book is wrong :), or i wrong

Btw: hu_wikipedi@_org/wiki/Komondor­. I know it is hungarian, but there is a lot of interesting facts in this incredible dog

[inotaishu1]

@borom79 No it definitely was not a Kuvasz. Kuvasz don't have dreadlocks. But unlike the Komondor in the video the one in the book had a free face and the locks weren't even half as long.

But since we're at it. Is it actually proven that these locks are good for something? I mean, just because the breed standard demands it, doesn't mean that the feature is good for something. Quite the contrary often.

[TudatThought7Imagine]

@inotaishu1 The locks are definitely very advantegous when fighting wolves as their dreads make it almost impossible for the wolf to penetrate the skin on a Komondors neck ;)

[inotaishu1]

@TudatThought7Imagine With all due respect but that is what the video stated. In addition there is the problem of whether this has ever been proven, because these locks also hinder the dogs movements and visual capacity, possible acustic as well. Therefore, du you have actual proof for this statement? And even if it is true, does that compensate for disadvantages. Hungary is not seperated so why was such a look not adapted by neigbouring countries if it is so effective?

[borom79]

@inotaishu1 These dreadlocks protect the dog from the weather. The shepards didnt separate the locks in the past. They leave, let it grow. When it was too long they shear it like a sheep. When the dogs hair is long enough, then it felting, and create the locks.

The Komondor don't need any dog house. They only need is a shelter for the wind. They are always in the outdoor, protecting the sheep flock or the Gray Cattle herd.

What i mean always? Summer, winter, frost, wind, rain.

[inotaishu1]

@borom79 I heard that as well, but again, is that proven and does it balance out the disadvantagesd? And again if it is so good why are they the only ones who have this trait?

[borom79]

@borom79 "Hungary is not seperated so why was such a look not adapted by neigbouring countries if it is so effective?" -> Thera are 2 thing about it. Becouse of the dog character (they protect the flock or the area even with their lives in the 2nd word war almost die out. This is concern the Kuvasz too.) Becouse the russian and germen soldiers killed the dogs before burn down and loot a house in a village.

[borom79]

The end of the word war II, only a few Komodor left.

But you are right. In the '60 and after that, the breeders sought the locks grow longer, and the Komondor grow bigger. But believe it, they allways have this dreadlocks :)

[inotaishu1]

@borom79 Well pobably not "always"

But still like I said that one dog from the early 20th century I know off had much less and shorter locks and you agreed that the ones in the video do not look like the ones of old. So is there proof that the locks of the ones in the video would be more of a merit instead of a flaw?

In addition since these dogs had existed before the 2nd world war, why weren't they adopted by neighbouring countries before that? And how widespread were they anyhow?

[borom79]

After the first word war Hungary lost its territory 60%. There are lot of Komondor and Kuvasz in the neighbour contries. For ex: Transylvania,Slovakia,Ukraine. So they adopted the whole breed, not only the dreadlocks :)

[inotaishu1]

@borom79 Ok, forget the last two questions. But still how old are the dreadlocks? Since when did they have them?

[TudatThought7Imagine]

@inotaishu1 Yes I believe it has been proven. For protection is why it developed in the first place. Lesson 1 from evolution: an animal does not evolve disadvantageous qualities, instead the oposite is always true. The Hungarian Komondor is a very ancient breed, and not an artificial breed from Germany for example, and therefore the qualities it has were developed over a much longer period, and were more under natures influence than modern breeds

[inotaishu1]

@TudatThought7Imagine And you believe it has been proven why? What is the basis for that believe?

And based on what is the Komondor ancient? Any proof for that?

In adition, just because a trait is old doesn't mean its advantegous. Xolo's are old as well and their hairlessness is coupled with loss of teeth and a higher ratio of stillbirths. In addition they need the existence of furred Xolo's to exist.

[TudatThought7Imagine]

@inotaishu1 you're boring. you're boring me, go bore someone else.

[inotaishu1]

@TudatThought7Imagine Very mature.

[santah161]

so cool ^_^ love it

[obsoletefloppy]

This dog was definitely worked on by Whoopi Goldberg.

[GiJordyn]

Aww i love it when the furr is short. Its so cute. :)

[Bestdance12]

so whats the difference between this and a puli dog?

[PretenderMr]

@Bestdance12 the puli is smaller than komondor

[sophie987g]

0_0 so this dog practically mops your floors as it wanders around your house, AWESOMEEEEEEEE

[kimchirespektor]

So... Trickster sheep?

[killinum2by2]

the mop rag dog

[jigglemaster7]

rastafarian dog

[4444Cipher]

Science has made a great leap forward !They have now been able to make a living mop!!!!wtf!!????

[WILD4X4D]

this is the acctual origin of the saying " a wolf in sheep's clothing"

[roderick198]

@WILD4X4D exactly

[izandjukicBRE]

rasta man :D

[mysticsunshine1979]

can u shave it

[Navygirl1223]

Its the Common Door

[CharlieLovesYou2]

Hah bob marly of the dog world lol

[marlo916]

get a komondor, and never mop again! unless it poops

[llqjn23]

Mop?

It could be 60 kg.

It's job was partly eating wolves for dinner to protect your animals.

[ibeKushin]

dog marley

[iatemyhomework]

@ibeKushin bahahahahaha. awesome.

[alexandruguzzonato]

Ja maan! Me like Komondor!

[Rozsaszal67]

Végre egy hazai kutya:)hasonló mint a puli,de az is cuki kis felmoso rongy.a szomszédnak is ilyen van:D(puli)

[MrUntouchable2010]

Looks like a mop with feet...

[goshiluvarchie]

omg lol. That is such a strange yet adorable coat

[rockedthrewtheboards]

3 wolfs disliked this

[iluvyamamototakeshi]

@rockedthrewtheboards Make that 6 xD

[2135qmzr]

lol at 0:27

[sxystar41]

This is a perfect dog for a stoner.

[AnakTupaiKecil]

at FIRST I thought it was a mop. :D AHAHa

[TheAlanaProductions]

cute mops :D

[UndercoverPegasus]

pause at 0:34, 0:36, 0:40

[UndercoverPegasus]

pause at 0:18

[UndercoverPegasus]

a mop?

[xSeikOne]

The Rasta Dog :D

[TheMidnadarkness]

it looks like a dog that gave birth to a mop

[Veronica8910G]

mom: ok Tommy, time to comb your Komondor! Tommy: Challenge accepted.

[Simenbjo]

HAHA witch brown fur it would be a fucking sniper dude! lol

[graskop4]

its bob marley as a dog

[SuperRehank]

3 people have blad dogs lol :D

[Tonganpride1000]

wtf who breeded it to have dredlocks?

[xelanesqueHQ]

@Tonganpride1000 no one, their furs like that naturally

[RokuT0usei]

seriously this dog is one of a kind

[joshebizonline]

I used to call it a mop dog

[Flowen]

Must be hell to wash the fur.

[Pearly403]

Omg it looks like a running rug :-)



[eden153100]

I wanna brush daily when a puppy so that I can is it as a show dog with straight no dread locked hair

[Pestinha92]

So thats where my mop went.

[TukuTuku0000]

3 people don't like mops

[yankolvich]

CHEWBACA RHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRHRRRHHHHH­HHHHHHHHG

[ToadPwnz]

Ghillie suit dog!

[smdachilles]

0.00

[196913012]

wow that is alot of hair! 15 pounds and over 2,000 strings? holy smokes!

[xToony]

2:36 you aint goin NOWHERE! I GAWT CHOO! YOU SAFE WIT ME!! :) 

[GuidaOnline]

Mop Dog!

[JEJNIFA]

I use them to scare janitors >:]

[zyn123]

Eso es un trapeador con vida

[TheFuggernaut]

Lol "all ghillied up"

[subarockstar]

Please correct the video description. The hair is up to 15 lbs, not 50 lb.

[POPstar4u2]

They Look Like Mops & Arent They Called Puli's? O

[yoruichisan19]

@POPstar4u2

No. Pulis are smaller. A lot smaller. :)

[MytAvila]

that hair looks like cleaning broom

[tamithomas]

pretty sure bob marley would have adopted this and gotten its fur dyed black lol

[GivepeaceachanceJL]

So that's where my mop went!

[enginemouse8vitya]

Ökör állat emberek!!! Faszkalap amerikai juhok.

b.c. 1790? Hamurappi??

Magyarország 1000-ben alapult. áááááááááá

[yoruichisan19]

@enginemouse8vitya

Nyugi. A világ nagy többsége csak nem szereti elismerni, hogy a magyarok tudnak nagyokat is alkotni. :)

[littleice97]

damn...if its brown... if can be a chewbacca....

[ludakrysgti]

To all who think the dog is cute and it a big mop... go into a garden guarded by a Komondor... and we will count in how manny bit's u cam out! Most dog's won't let u in but the Komondor will let u in but never let u out!

[TheInsomniac247]

@ludakrysgti lol i totally agree with you ! I have two CAO's and they're the same when it invloves stranger's :)

[komondor100]

komondor.su

[BlizzardIceFox]

Sheep: HORAAY KOMONDOR!

Komondor: Thank you! Thank you! And now, I shall make that bear lear its lesson!

Bear: *GULP*

[fortesque007]

this will be difficult if it catches ticks ahk!!! hate ticks!!!!

[prasanthrajxxx]

it looks like a haunted mop!!

[williamfsark]

ahhh i really want animal planet to do a dogs 101 on a anatolian shepherd....

[MikesMusicHD]

jomaycan mon!!!

[pinkygirl1999]

Just curious if you brush them every day if the coat will still be coarded?

[SasuNaru247]

@pinkygirl1999 I doubt that there will be brushing once the hair is corded but you'll need to seperate the cords to prevent matting and washing the dirt off.

[Conkonovae]

so this dog basically grows its own ghillie suit? awesome.

[Thesztrals]

They need complete and firm leadership with clear rules they must follow and obedience training by an experienced owner, as they can be very willful if they are stronger minded than the humans around them. Smart, but easily bored, loyal to and respectful of their master, but fierce against threats to their charges. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status.”

[Thesztrals]

Relentless against wolves and bears that would attack the flock with which it is entrusted. In a few minutes the Komondor can get the better of even the strongest enemy. Because this breed is bred to work independently as a flock guardian they have a high dominancy level. When they are raise to work as the flock guardian they were bred to be they will be very reserved with strangers and territorial. This breed must be thoroughly socialized with people and other dogs preferably at an early age.

[Thesztrals]

Yeah, they are cute, but these dogs are similar to the Caucasian Ovcharka.

„Komondors can be good family dogs if they have owners who know how to display a natural, firm authority over the dog, are socialized, trained thoroughly, and raised with children from the start, but they are not recommended for most families. Komondors are serious working flock guardians bred to be fiercely protective, and confident, as they watch over their charges.

[russianspiess]

odelay!