Michael Schumacher Wins 1998 British Grand Prix While In Pits

[MIKAELF1]

Michael Scumacher!!!! The best F1-driver ever:). It's always great to see him take victories on british land. It's a little bit of revenge for warcrimes made by the british against Deutschland in the past. Never forget Dresden (1945).

[RG0087]

"I frankly do not know at the moment"... hahahaha...

[TheCryptogamer]

ferrari trolling mclaren :D

one of the greatest moments in formula one history

[Colddeed]

I always found it confusing that he was allowed to take his stop/go penalty after he had crossed the line to win the race. Made no sense.

[CaboArmorKing]

@Colddeed

It worked only because whoever was in charge of handing out penaltys messed up by informing Ferrari way after the time limit of the incident, so the stop-and-go of Schumacher was basically invalid.

[rvdasilva]

Did he cross the finish line before or after stopping the car in the pit?

If he crossed the finish line before stopping then it is clear that he completed all the laps of the race without the STOP and go.

If the finish line is before the position to stop in the pit then what could be the difference of a drive-through or a STOP and go? If that is the case, the car didn't stop in the pit before the last lap was complete.

[andrewgriffiths78]

As much as the FIA are pro Ferrari, no one can accuse Schumacher for cheating, the penalty was rescinded as it was issued after the 25 minute time limit and was incorrectly issued. Do your research.

[Robert3785]

Since people don't seem to be getting it what happened was Schumacher crossing the finish line without taking his penalty. He should have been disqualified but they exploited some stupid loophole that said "the driver must ENTER the pit-lane before taking the penalty". He is one of the greatest drivers of all time but he's one of the biggest cheats as well.

[ChrisButchie]

@Robert3785 That isn't the reason he won the race.

[atomicR4GER]

@Robert3785 well technically he didnt cheat then if there's a loop hole and he exploited it (whether he meant it or not). In formula 1 if there is a loophole ALL teams will abuse it not just Ferrari or not just Schumacher, think of the double diffusers in '09 for eg.

[Robert3785]

@atomicR4GER You've got a point, but this isn't one team designing something that some other teams didn't, and I'm not saying that Schumacher is the only one to do it but this was a very deliberate exploitation of the rules that he seemed to get away with more than anyone else. 2 Egs - He stopped on the track at Monaco 06 to stop Alonso getting pole and allot of teams/drivers inducing his own Bennaton team mate Frentzen are saying he won his first championship with banned electronics on his car.

[atomicR4GER]

@Robert3785 Yea Monaco '06 was pretty sketchy at best but the '94 season and the supposed driver aids is something we will never know unfortunately and really the only way we will ever know is if Schumacher came out and said it. Regarding the Silverstone incident, whenever you have so much at stake in a major sport loopholes like this have been and will continue to be abused until changed, it's not a clean way to win but with such fierce competition comes exploitation.

[MultiAllocca]

it is a penality of 10sec in pit lane!!!!

[jonthedoors]

If I were in charge that wouldn't be allowed as it's not during the race. And people hail Schumacher as the best driver? Is he bollocks. He was gifted this win as he was gifted many, many others.

[ImFasterThanTheStig]

@jonthedoors Can you name atleast 10 victories that were gifted to him? That's what I expect when you say "many, many others." I am waiting for your answer, and please, stick to facts when you dare to answer.

[jonthedoors]

@ImFasterThanTheStig

Yep, expected a backlash from Schuey fans. What'd be the point in me listing the gifted wins? You'd only bitch and whine anyway.

Love you you say "when you DARE to answer"

lol. Dare.

LOOKS LIKE I'D BETTER WATCH OUT FOR INTERNET TOUGHGUYS

[ImFasterThanTheStig]

@jonthedoors C'mon, you just said something I can't believe and I kindly asked you to back up your statement. I promise I will not bitch around and whine and I'll be extra-nice if you manage to list 10 of those gifted wins. However, you cannot forbid me to discuss about the gifted wins you gonna list, can you?

[psh10yt]

Great brains....

[smoceskreen]

I'm no Schumi fan.. but Ferrari are very good at finding loopholes in the regulations! I remember watching this but it didn't really matter to me who won eventho I liked Mika a lot. Coz it was fun, tight, and both drivers were awesome. But if it was Schumi who ended up winning the 98 title... it would be very different.! Legends. 

[cetinbora78]

it's illegal. because, if he has passed the finish line the race is over. that he drew the penalty After the race, but these illegal

[PhilM3t4l]

Amazing. Murray Walker is utterly flabbergasted.

[WhyGenFM3]

Cheating? No. Cunning? Yes. Genius? Certainly.

[shehri4life]

@WhyGenFM3 I'm sorry can you explain what happened ? Did Michael win by not crossing the finish line but stopping at the pit stop ?

[WhyGenFM3]

@shehri4life The stewards messed up by taking too long to issue the penalty, so Ferrari could take the penalty within a certain amount of time... which included the end of the race. So he went in to the pits to take the penalty on his final lap, so he crossed the finish line in the pit lane, but because Ferrari's pit box was past the line he didn't stop for it until after he'd won the race. Very confusing, but basically at the end of the day he won the race.

[RedPhroggz]

Another example of FIA shenanigans to keep the title race favorable (ie. close) is that the FIA waited after the following round, the Austrian GP to first see who wins there (Mika won and Michael was 3rd), and then arrive at the decision who actually won the British GP, Mika or Michael. Why not make the decision BEFORE the following race so that it wouldn't influence your decision, that is if you're at least trying to pass a governing body with integrity? f joke Max Mosley and his ilk.

[bonaje7]

This is pure brilliance.

[LeKtiCJ]

Geniuses at work.

[Insanaty]

Cheatmacher

[hejjagedu]

@Insanaty it was Ross Brawn that was the brain behind it, and his "fault" for making Schumacher cheat

[UpYoUrBeAvEr]

Friday practice 2 brought me hear 

[FreshFreak01]

balls of steel

[F1Mad93]

how come ive never heard of this controversial win.

this is the first time ive seen this

[posaunix]

terrible, that this was possible! thats ferrari-like...

[ohargreaves]

@posaunix So "Clever" is Ferrari-like?

[ohargreaves]

@posaunix Well, if the FIA are really naive enough to say "take a stop and go in 3 laps or less" when there are less than 3 laps, then you cannot blame Ferrari for pitting MSC when they did. Any other team would have done the same. If they did the "sportsmanlike" thing and took the penalty immediately when there was no reason to, no-one would be congratulating them for being sporting. F1 has always been about being clever in order to gain an advantage, and yes, I do like it.

[Goron333]

@posaunix it was in the rules to do so, they were changed afterwards. What was terrible was that he was given a penalty in the first place. The stewards who gave him the penalty stepped down afterwards.

[Myrvold]

@Goron333 AFAIK, that was because of the screw up with giving the penalty, not because of giving the penalty.

[danielmclegg]

Genius bit of thinking by the team, and perfect execution of both plan A (get far enough ahead of HAK) and B (cross finish line in pits) by Schumacher.

[Otavasaturnus]

Funny joke in the F1 history. But Hakkinen didnt complain. GENTLEMAN

[nakitomijasiful]

there are so many mistakes in fia roules and michael and ros found one. now this is imposible because you have to take the penalty in few laps

[AlexGRFan97]

LOL at all the mad people being angry due to track layout. Morons.

[the1clothes1peg]

Cheating bastard. I'll finish the race, then stop for 10 seconds. Take a hike Schuey you sly bastard

[rastamees]

@the1clothes1peg

so being clever is cheating ?

i really wish they did stuff like this nowadays..

[shirfield]

well two points i rember about this

1 they were try to ask if it was a stop go/ ten second

2 it was too late in the race

there should had been two winner that year

i remember a simular incident in 94 which was ironicy the same track when they had to lairfy

[Djarra]

@shirfield Now as with Hamilton and Alonso at the 2011 Seepang race incidents in the last ten laps are dealt with after the race so this sort of muddle can't happen anymore.

[Embraer091]

I don't see the point of givin a penalty to someone if you're gonna win just because your pit box is after the finishing line... it should be obligated to get out of the boxes, then, it would be considered the lap... I am not saying M. Schumacher cheated, but I think he had not been suffered the penalty, once he came into the boxes and finished the race in there.

[RexalLB]

@Embraer091 Which is why. imo. the "finish" line for the pits should be at the lights of the pit lane, not on the grid. which would make a lot more sense.

[arzyTUBE]

Absolutely brilliant

[GabrielStefan]

Technically he had no penalty as it was later rescinded by the stewards, so he crossed the finish line for he arrived at the Ferrari garage... making the stop pointless.

The Stewards would later resign because of this incident.

[elrondx]

Schumacher still lost the championship. haha

[ghokahshaw]

its a stop "GO" penalty!! that was just stop!!!!

[FishBoyVideo]

Ross Brawn Genius. Enough said!

[ale03000]

Winning after a 10 second penalty? Incredible :]...

[LulaJake]

cheating bastard. not so rosy now is it shitmaker? same to the fiat

[tornadoGT01]

couldn't kobayashi have done this in valencia

[MrJonnyJacko]

@tornadoGT01 You have to run a set of both compound tyres during the race, so he would have finished the race on the hard tyres before changing to the softs

[tornadoGT01]

@MrJonnyJacko but do you have to do a complete lap or just put them on

[MrJonnyJacko]

@tornadoGT01 You have to run a set of both tyres during the race weekend, putting them on once you have crossed the line wont count, so it depends where you are in the pit lane to do what you have said.

[zhen86]

@tornadoGT01

he can not do that because he need to do at least one lap on the other tyres

[graham952]

I don't know why he didn't take the penalty before the end of the race. I thought he will not win the race because he crossed the line first when the penalty. But when I looked it up I saw Michael had won the race.

[hmm201987]

why did he get the penalty? oO

[18PacWest]

When he passed one of the Benettons under the yellow.

[powerofsatanasss]

nice

[oscarpink]

i think hakkinen would of won, acedemic however as hakkinen was victorious in the end, was great to see them fighting it out though

[olehomer88]

You have to watch at the " RAC" ad in the grass. Schumacher reached it a 0:04, Häkkinen at 0:32,

So Michael leads with more than 28 seconds. Thats enough for taken the penalty and still winning the race. Michael deserved it.

Nice to see him on the race track tomorrow again.

[Doevs]

Just speculating here:

By doing this michael didn't lose any time driving OUT of the pits, which probably is also part of the penalty. So you could say he did not fully serve the penalty.

nonetheless, it was truly spectacular.

[MeBest777]

@Doevs

WORD !

[juhdiakathat]

@olehomer88 lol this was pure cheating..u cant suffer stop go penalty when race is over..this was redigolious...and FIA didnt punish him at all

[FormulaOneFan4Eva]

he served his penalty technically before he crossed the start/finish line so it was a legit win.... the race wasn't over when he served it, it ended immediately after he served it so it was effectively like adding 20 or so seconds to your finishig time.

[colummcclelland90]

@FormulaOneFan4Eva

no he didnt, do some research will ya, the line is before the Ferrari garage

[Gamez4Lif3]

@colummcclelland90 Lol no the line used to be the line where they start... the line used nowadays to finish a race is always just a few meters after the first pit box...

it was a legit win...

[ohargreaves]

@juhdiakathat It wasn't cheating, it was common sense. The stewards were to blame for giving the penalty late, not Ferrari.

[ididi9]

@olehomer88 If my memory serves me right back then it was 30 seconds for the penalty leaving Schumi 2nd.

[eowdevastator]

@ididi9 no schumi won. the penalty was later deemed incorrect. several stewards stepped down after that.

[HeZu1987]

@olehomer88 Yeah, so actually if it were drive through penalty he could of done it next year in free practice :)

[stevenmcg69]

fantastic i remember this it was awesome

[18PacWest]

Schuey wins in the pitlane in 1998 and once again in 2002.

[komninosm]

@18PacWest what race in 2002?

[18PacWest]

Schumacher won the British GP 2002 while in the pits for the second time on the final lap due a penalty.

[komninosm]

@18PacWest I don't see any mention in that gp of Schumacher getting a penalty. Got any links please?