the rapid breathing at the end of each exercise is a conscious choice to break the urge to hold one's breath, which raises blood pressure excessively, assists in the lift and is generally counterproductive to the sequential recruiting and fatiguing of muscle fibers
they don't look like pro bodybuilders for the same reasons most weightlifting enthusiasts don't, genetic potential chief among them
they don't look like long distance runners any more than usain bolt and michael phelps do
People want to see the freaks like Coleman, Ruhl, Cutler, etc. For the most part that is not to be found here. The guys with the freaky, natural genetics are few and far between. The rest of us can look very fit and impressive, but since we don't have the pumpkin shoulders like the boys in the IFBB, we fall short every time.
It's like comparing porn with real sex. One is a fantasy, the other a reality.
@andrefaaa dude its high intensity training !!! meaning theres a shit load of weight on there... and on top of that when you slow things down it makes it ten times harder.. when i first did HIT training and actually did a slow rep i was exhausted..
dorian yates did abbreviated high intensity training...he did warm up sets but only 1 work set per exercise and only 3-6 sets per body part-much like mike mentzer did..of course, eventually this style of hit becomes hard on the joints and bosy
and is certainly not good for the average person...superslow hit is much safer and you get amazing results for the time invested..most important it can be done well up into age....
dorian yates did abbreviated high intensity training...he did warm up sets but only 1 work set per exercise and only 3-6 sets per body part-much like mike mentzer did..of course, eventually this style of hit becomes hard on the joints and bosy and is certainly not good for the average person...superslow hit is much safer and you get amazing results for the time invested..most important it can be done well up into age
Just different thoughts on the same subject. All apply principles to make a workout harder. Best thing to do is research them all and try for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
For my part, I used to spend 5-6 hours a week in the gym doing multiple sets (HVT) to minimal gains.
I didn't know what hard work was until I started HIT. 12 lbs gained and now spending only 30 min in gym a week and I've never looked back. To get any bigger would mean synthetics. Not doing that.
no fucking way is he 210. 180 tops. superslow is bull shit. look at athles, powerlifters, strongmen, bodybuilder, olympic lifters. who the fuck do you see doing super slow bull shit? no fucking one. it's about the volume and workload. to work your muscles you NEED heavy weights that are close to your 1 rep max. using this 25% of your rep max shit weight isn't gona fucking work. this shit was put to the side in the 90s when everyone realised it was shit.
@bigbobabc123 Look my friend take some time and look up on here. Mike Mentzer - High Intensity Bodybuilding Part 1. Here you will who else uses the superslow shit you speak of.
@kravistjb one bodybuilder out of thousands. ok that's proof. arnold, and ronnie coleman haven't used this shit. 2 of the best bodybuiilders of all time.
ronnie and arnold are both great, i'm not saying volume doesnt work, it just isnt the most efficient. by the way how about Dorian Yates---High Intensity all the way for him.
i agree, the biggest guys go crazy with the weight. i think slow training is just hitting muscles with lactic acid, and actualy takes it easy on the muscles. but with heavier weights and speed one can build strength by coaxing the body to use more muscle fibers, cause actual mirco-trauma to the muscles, and take advantage of lactic acid
300# Sagittal Seated Chest Press???? 160# Bicep Curl??? BULLSHIT! Sure...with 37 pulleys attached. Dude is 6'1".....185#'s tops. His biceps are not even contracting on that machine. .....I fast forwarded too so I missed a lot of hocus poeckus.
now that's a great way bring in absolutely every muscle fibre ... well done ... most viewers would not understand the concept ... for them, you keep swinging away with the bicep curls :)
The problem with slow lifts is that u get bored.U want to put more,and do it normal. When u do it slow,the barbel feels heavier.But everything you do,no matter the speed,that can burn the muscle so u really cant do any more,works.
Bad breathing technique. This leads to less release of CO2 from the body, creates a buildup of lactic acid and tends to provide less total oxygen to your body. Dont deprive urself of less O2, especially when ur muscles need it the most.; during training., so Normal to deep breaths r preferred
@luiscofresi uh no. Hyperventilation leads to a decrease in the amount of CO2 in the body through increased CO2 expiration. Also since not all of the air is exchanged with each breath taken, the hyperventilation will provide more fresh air to the alveoli with the result of removing more CO2 while taking in more O2.
man, most of you guys are illiterate ....you have to be, your ignorant comments are nothing short of undesirable...also, all this fitness jargon bullshit about core work, and cardio vascular fitness, it gets kind of old. you guys should do one of two things: go try the workout yourself, and better yet pick up a book, and read the magic black marks inside.
I want everyone to know that these machines use a double pulley system. This means that you're only lifting half the weight you select on the stack. This guy is about to lose a lung and have an aneurism benching 150 ish pounds on a machine. These are facts.
Going from one exercise to the next with no rest is limiting to the intensity that can be achieved with each set. The lifter here should try splitting his workouts into a few times a week. Or just rest 5-10 minutes between muscle groups for this workout. If the goal is highest intensity, it is being lessened by doing this no rest, aerobic stuff....
This is definitely high intensity, it made me throw up the first time I ever did it, but it is actually a little bit lighter resistance than usual. I do use it as a technique though. The panting is necessary due to cardiovascular load and O2 is a buffer for low blood pH so will inhibit too much acid production. This type of training will train the cori cycle anyway so that is a moot point.
This is a TYPE of high intensity training. There are several types of 'High Intensity" training. The idea here is heavy wieght with lots of time under tension. Time under tension is what breaks the muscle down and makes it stronger. It looks very strange I know...but give it a try once in a while. You will find it is much harder than it looks. Rember 1 set should take almost 2 minutes thats a long time for your muscles to be under tension. So dont be close minded try it for a change.
@flooopy1 I understand that HIT is for advanced bodybuilders and not begginers. This guy does not look advanced at all. Mike mentzer trained volume for almost all his training years. He used HIT like the last 3 years of competing. Maybe this guy has made more progress as of late but it looks like some volume training would do him good
this is not HIT, its a poor representation of a great and effective exercise program. please dont be mislead by the poor form and lack of fluidity by these two gentlemen. one quick tip, panting during the workout is definitely not recommended due to the quick build of lactic acid which enhances fatigue. definitely not HIT.
jakementzer, if you isolate yourself to only using HIT you are destined for failure. Training needs change and your program should change with that. Find something that you are gaining on and stick with it until you no longer gain, then it is time to switch to something else for awhile.
To answer your question. Yes HIT can work and it can work very successfully if you dedicate yourself to working out with 100% effort for each exercise in your HIT workout. If you do not train with 100% effort you will gain nothing by using HIT. This means going to absolute failure to the point where you could not lift the weight one more time regardless of the circumstances. But do not become narrow minded.
Wow it is nice to see some individuals on here can actually have intelligent conversations. SR1 and Spade this is directed at you. The majority of people I have posted comments with are so childish that it is impossible to have a discussion with. It is nice to see some people can actually discuss training without getting defensive. Props to the two of you.
Thank you, I appreciate that. Although there's some that would disagree with you, as I've been called an anti-HIT troll etc. This couldn't be further from the truth, I believe it has its place, like other methods. What I don't like is when people are spouting their propaganda, saying it's the only way to progress. And when I call them on it, they get defensive, REALLY defensive. AJ this Mentzer that...... Like they're infallible.
I've just looked at that other HIT video Josh, I see you're getting a lot of shit from those 'experts'. This is what I'm talking about when I say people are getting defensive. Some just like to think they are right, even when they are way off the mark.
Yes, I have apparently upset them which is funny because my original post on there video was that I think HIT is a great training system. But because I do not agree word for word what AJ says that makes me ignorant and a fool when it comes to exercise. Anyway, regardless, they have limited their own capabilities by there narrow-mindedness and "purist" beliefs in weight training.
Yeah, that just goes to show what kind of mind set they have doesn't it. Nothing can be questioned etcetera, absolutely pathetic, if we all thought this, the human race would never get anywhere.
Some just want to follow the doctrine and attack any that question it. Like you said, they have limited their potential by being purists - Excellent point.
Keep training mate and leave them further behind.They are the ones that'll pay for their narrow mindedness in the long run.
To me it is just shame that those are the kinds of people promoting HIT. HIT gets a horrible rep because of the individuals who try to promote it. When two individuals weighing 150 pounds or less, who in their own video do not even train with maximum effort, are promoting HIT it makes HIT and all of it's users look like idiots. It really is a shame that a system that has it benefits gets down right tramped all over because of ignorant followers like Beethoven and Johnmichaels.
Yeah, it seems HIT attracts these 'sorts'. There's nothing wrong with HIT, although some applications are seriously wanting. It's some of the numb-headed followers, with their arrogance and ignorance which makes my teeth itch. Those two that you mentioned are prime examples. I'm glad you can hold a discussion, instead of being a prick like some others here.
Being anti-hit or anti-hvt for that matter is not relevant. One should still be able to carry an intelligent discussion about weight training in general without getting defensive about his own system. I personally think HIT works great and have used it many times but I also have HVT with great results. The conclusion I always come too is that nothing is more important then hard work. If you work with 100% effort 100% of the time regardless of what system you use, you are going to make gains.
In my opinion if you want to gain maximum strength you must lift with maximum loads. HIT's argument is that time under tension has more to do with muscle development than the weight of the load. I recommend a moderate speed (2 sec + and 2 sec -) for 3-6 repetitions if your goal is to gain maximum strength. You can also throw in a negative accentuated lift (press with both limbs, lower with only one) which will aid in building maximum strength as well.
Machines are good for building strength but as mentioned somewhere above will only work in a single plane of motion. If you hit a plateau try using machines for a short period. What I used to do was train volume style on 4 basic exercises twice per week and then 1 HIT workout on Nautilus machines once per week. This worked extremely well for myself and for the 3 clients I used to test this method.
dude wtf superslow = supercrap. I agree with the free weights, but superslow is superheavy, and because you run out of oxigen in your muscles MUCH faster because of the continuous strain on the muscles, you use all your muscle fibers faster then with normal reps.
It's not the most fun to do as an exercise, but it sure does work !
Actually superslow is not superheavy, as you put it, it is in fact the slow lifting of lighter weights. And one more thing is, this training will not recruit all of your motor units, only low threshold ones. I wont argue that this isn't safe, because it clearly is, and it can work, but it isn't more productive than other cadences. And as for the oxygen debt, I've read otherwise. But I know it works.
Hahahaha, when you learn to type in english, I might read your comment, in the meantime I'll just assume you're an ignorant teenager, who has got f*ck all experience in anything
If your claiming that people who are training with free weights, are training incorrectly, well I'd like to see how your 12 station nautilus circuit gained strength transfers to the olympic lifts. When lifting, the body should be used a complete system, which free weights address, and not broken up into components. Machines are for health clubs, not for the serious trainee.
I agree.The free weights are far superior for building size and strength.When i trained in sHIT style and then went back to free weights my poundages were down on every exercise...and my size.Soon as i hit the free weights for a few months my size and strength came right back.The machine helpe you too much,the friction is inconsistant from one machine to another,the weigth stacks never feel the same,theres a limited amount of weight on each machine.
If you have one person incline pressing 315 on a smith machine for 8 reps and another doing 8 reps on free weight bar...i guarantee you %100 if you took the guy from the machine and put him on the free weight he would be lucky to get 4 or 5 reps...but if you took the free weight guy and put him on the smith machine he would get 2 or 3 reps more.The machines are way easier to use,,,thats the main reason people use them....people are always trying to find the easy way out and avoid the hard work
Exactly...look at 3 of the best exercises..the deadlift,bench press and squat...ALL are free weight exercises not machine.Sure you can do squats and bench press on a machine....but its simply just not the same and waaaaaay easier
Correct, using machines looks far easier (I've never used them myself), than free weights. No machine could match a free weight exercise in terms of difficulty, take the deadlift, this is probably the best exercise in existence, and hard as f*ck!!!
I've heard off many, that didn't gain size on machines, and as for superslow reps... forget it, if you are going to control any part of the lift, it should be the negative. The positive is better done quicker, but not reckless.
True again sr1earl...stabilizers arent used...also too if you change gyms free weights have a tendency to be more consistant...a 45lb plate is a 45lb plate..but if you use a different machine for the same exercise if never feels the same,different leverage,pulleys,different weight for each stack,more friction or less friction....or worse still the machine you used at one gym is not available at the next gym you train at....then what?
its easier sr1earl...any exercise i can do on free weight compared to machine...ill take the free weight anyday....as for superslow reps...there a complete waste of time...like you said only the negative needs to be a little slow but you always drive the weight up quick.Banging out more reps will allow better receptor upgrade,higher blood volume which in turn will carry a larger supply of protein and other nutrients to the muscle....hence the reason you see all top pros doing quick reps.
another point to note sr1earl is that mentzer said that the "super slow guild"..aka 10 seconds up and down is not necessary...but yet at the same time says a 4-2-4 cadence is better.....just contradicting himself.He says fast reps are no good because of momentum but yet says the super slow guild is too slow.Just seems to me that Mike thinks only HIS methods are best....oh please MIke dont make me laugh...not one single pro uses a 4-2-4 cadence...and for good reason because its useless.
Yeah I agree, 4-2-4 is too slow, I haven't got a problem with people slowing their reps down, but giving certain numbers to go by is a little daft.
This is why HIT, is not HIT! It's a misnomer, 'cause they choose a weight light enough so they can move it slow, say, 60% of 10RM or whatever... That is not intense! I'd rather load the bar more and lift and not think about seconds per rep and just concentrate on moving the bar in it's correct path.
exactly....and its never consistent either..one minute its 4-2-4 then 5-1-3 then 4-1-5...its all over the place....using heavier weights with proper form will pack the mass on quicker...i mean look at the size of these of these guys....if i saw them on the street i wouldnt even think they go to a gym
This is a big no no in HIT. One of the principles in HIT is that the muscle should always have the weight on it. Meaning no resting at the point where the stress is very low such as in a squat (standing position) or barbell curl (the fully contracted position). If you watch Ellington Dardens 5 min HIT program you will see he emphasizes to extend almost fully but not the point where the stress moves from the muscle to the joint.
.....its a big no no even using a regular rep speed....not to mention when hes doing the leg press hes getting almost zero range of motion,hes pushing from his whole foot and not the heel(the ball of his foot should be off the platform when his legs are extended on every rep) this way your thighs flex on every rep and speeds up growth.Stand on the floor and bring the balls of your feet off the floor and keep your heels on the floor and you will see your legs flex even if you try to resist it.
If you are moving to quickly (thrusting the bar off your chest letting it bounce up) then yes, momentum has taken over. Your positive movement should be controlled with all the stress on the muscle but does not need to be "slow". In other words maybe it will take 1-2 seconds to push the bar up. The negative can and in my opinion should be emphasized with a slightly slower movement. But again this need not be "slow", just controlled by the muscle.
I agree bouncing the bar off the chest is wrong...just a nice controlled rep is all thats required...this 4-2-4 cadence shit is a complete waste of time....no pros use it....if it had benefits they would be using it.
I agree, bouncing off the chest is wrong and can be dangerous. DC uses a slow negative and a explosive concentric, now if you really want a hard workout that delivers, do DC (It's not HIT), although it is meant to be for the more advanced. If anyone here is a beginner reading this, leave DC well alone until you know you're ready for it. Many simply aren't.
I think HIT is great as part of a plateau busing regime. If you use HIT for a couple weeks (maybe 3) then go back to your routine, I've found it helps get me past some sticking points.
The biggest failure i see with HIT is the normal person in the gym doesn't even come close to the amount of intensity to make difference.
In my opinion 1 Set is enough. I train about one year with one set after six years of Volumentraining and my results are similar to the 3Sets. (Maybe a little bit better, because I don´t need that much recovery.) So why I should do more than one. I´m sure the one Set Training doesn´t work for everyone. If you are not able to put all your intensity in one set and train to failure(and beyond) it won´t work.
I have tried it and it doesn't work.....There aren't any pros that use it.Yates trained 4 days a week and so did Mentzer.Yes the workouts are hard....but the results are non existant.....hence the reason you wont find one pro using it.After using hit for several months and getting nothing from it I went back to free weights 3 to 4 days a week and presto all my size and strength came back.I guarantee you keep using machines and then go back to free weights your strength will be waaaay down.
If its works sooooo good....why are they sooo small......obviously it doesnt work well.Try and find one pro here on youtube using a 4-2-4 cadence.....good luck...because you wont find one pro or top amatuer using...its well known that faster reps work better because of receptor upgrade(especially when your on juice).....i think you better do the homework.
if you think Yates did only one set your kidding yourself.For incline he would do 225,315, and then max out with 405.He would count the first 2 sets as "warm ups"...but in reality its no different than another person simply pyramiding up in weight over 3 sets and counting every set instead of Yates just counting the last set.Its 3 sets no matter which way you look at it......not 1 set like Yates would have you believe.
The Superslow system def beats the volume approach - not exaclty sure if training that slow is really needed but not a bad video afterall - atleast you guys have great form and take it to the limit - versus some of these volume trolls out there - MR
too bad the volume trolls look sooooo much better though eh Marcus....and what would you know Marcus about taking it to the limit....you just go through the motions remember.
If it works so much better than how come not one single pro or top amateur uses HIT eh Marcus......performing the reps quicker works waaaaaaaay better.....noob......
yeah,from the freaky amount of muscle that the trainer and trainee have this is definetly the best system out there. they both look like they never even touched a weight before this vid was taken
hey all u fagget ass bitches that say slow burn is gay or for pussies its prolly caus u cant do it.... go to exerciseinc (.) com look at the facts.. start slow burn and gain real strength
I would highly object to his lack of care for posture, the way he bends his neck forward in an erratic manner. His upper back is bent already and he is making it worse. Also, loss of posture makes the excersice less effective.
The World Record Strict Curl, at any bodyweight, (RawPowerlifting), is 175lbs, yet we're told Kyle does SuperSlow reps with 160 for 85 seconds! We either need standardization of resistance, or Kyle needs to go break some records by quite a bit.
The numbers on the stack are arbitrary. They could label 1000 lbs, it is irrelevent. The only purpose of the number is to record your most recent mark. You think this guy could super-slow a 300 lbs. bench press...no way. The machine, its mechanics, its point of resistence and pivot, all come into play when calculating and considering weight. He can report all of these numbers all he wants, it doesn't mean a thing in the scheme of things.
there are certain exercises that you can't rely upon momentum, such as the chest press. Since your sitting down, as long as your back is straight at all times, the more reps the better. If you are doing them too quickly in these exercises, then you should increase the weight so you reduce rep sets to 15's, 10's or sets of 8
if you throw a ball up in the air and it goes 20 feet up are you pushing it the whole way?..your rep scheme is you predetermining when you stop..so there is no real failure.. the body did not shut down, the mind did.listen dont bother with the argument..i thought like you do 11 yrs ago im way past the muscle and fiction magazine gym rat assumption based rotuines..this stuff works and is the safest way.
I have a question for all you smart guys. So, is it better to work out with slow reps and go to failure or fast reps and go to failure? Will these exercises make me stronger? please answer my question...anyone.
no...superslow seems harder than it is, since you lose breath...(as u can see in the video) this makes the workout seem harder than it actually is for your muscle...
You're referring to the oxygen debt - and you are correct. If a set lasts too long, then your lungs will fail before your muscles, and you wont stimulate much growth as a result though you WILL improve your cardiovascular ability.
The key to a proper HIT style set is use enough weight to reach failure after about a minute, and lift the weights good and slow during this time, keeping constant tension on the muscle.
when you move quickly you depend on momentum this is not work.. move slow you work the whole time..you will be way stronger also you will never hit failure unless instructed properly
Each faction thinks other methods are inferior. There's no "better": The -main- improvement from -any- method is in the performance -of- the method. What builds the most muscle?: Hard to know. SS isn't embraced by bodybuilders. Perhaps genetically gifted trainees would do well with it, but so far, SS hasn't bult any of the best bodies. SS recently began using longer set times/lighter weights. This may be a good way to combine strength & endurance, but not to build the most muscle.
to start on the pull he should just "squeeze" out of the bottom - not that preliminary nonsense at the "top" to start....don't drop the weight at the conclusion...too much "coaching"
"...each set of super-slow exercise should be completed within the maximum range of your anaerobic energy system (90 seconds)" - Dr. Wayne Westcott 'High-Intensity Strength Training'
High intensity strength training, even SuperSlow, will produce a degree of cardiovascular conditioning that is at least equal to, and in many cases better than what can be had by running. It is comparable to high intensity interval training in cardiovascular effect, but with the added benefit of also building strength.
only question is why did they do legs last? they are the most important, should be done first.
Lower body stimulates the upper body anyways, so there is no reason why legs are last... Besides they just don't understand the importance of training legs, and how it stimulates the rest of the body
In 12 weeks of doing this workout, I gained over 20 pounds of pure muscle. I went from 195 and about 14% body fat to 205 and 8% body fat. I was ripped!!
Working out is about intensity, but the most important point of the exercise is to bring the muscles to failure. I.E. you can't even think of doing another rep. That was the key. And what made the workout nauseating.
I did a high intensity workout somewhat similar to this when I was younger. It was a circuit training workout on a nautilus circuit, some of the best machines ever made. I would do this workout three to four times a week. One of the key points of the intensity was not necessarily the anaerobic focus that this workout obviously has, but the control of motion. I would use the concept of two seconds in positive motion, one second hold, then three seconds in the negative motion.
there is no way that he is using a true 320 lbs of resistance on the bench for super-slow reps. I would like to see him do it with 320 lbs of olympic free weights. I would guess that he is using the equivalent of around 180 lbs on the bench at the most.
He's using 320 lbs., but lifting it less vertical distance than with a barbell. Vertical distance times weight (force) equals mechanical work. This is a major error many people make when trying to compare equipment. 100 lbs. lifted 1 ft. is the same as 50 lifted 2 ft. If you don't think it's impressive, try it. Remember, everyone has relative strength capabilities, depending on the method used. Everyone must use less weight when moving slower, so it levels the playing field.
The general intent for progressive resistance exercise, for superslow or other rep cadences, is to stay at a given level of resistance until the upper limit of a predetermined repetition guideline is reached, at which time resistance will be increased for the next workout and the process continues. Thus, time is emphasized first as a consequence of (ideally) exceeding the previous reps with a given resistance, and then weight is adjusted upward when appropriate.
If you saw my ol' man you would know why I am skinny. I never claimed to be a champion bodybuilder. I had only been training for about 6 months before this video. This is also just a sample that we made for our clients to see. We usually do more weight with less reps and forced negatives.
I agree 99%!. My recent exposure and experience has shown what I thought were my own genetic limits (at 50+ years) have been quickly overcome by focusing more on weight/load increases rather than time. I used to hold my wieghts until I added a rep or about 15-20 seconds, but now I always add weight(1 to 2-1/2 pounds typically) and hold TUL. Now I get stronger every workout with visible muscle gains and measureable strength gains.
muscles can't count. Muscle building isnt really about how many sets you do, it is about the intensity. You cant say for example that doing 3 sets and not hitting failure is better than doing one set to total failure.
set count is down to personal preference really. I do 2 sets per exercise and go as close to failure as i can go. Too many people think they hit failure when they dont.
Me recent experience is that inensity is best achieved by increasing the load (weight) as opposed to increasing time. For me, this assures intensity near or at failure ... every workout. My TUL's end up being about 50 to 60 seconds for one set. Good points BTW.
You have to breathe like that when your doing superslow as you exert for 5 seconds and let down for 10 seconds try benching or curling like that and see how you start to breathe.
if this guy is 6'2 210, i'm 7'6 750.
Makstrero 2 weeks ago
is this real life
bigbobabc123 1 month ago
Kyle is a dude.
Tensolator 2 months ago
Is he giving birth?
hellspawnds 3 months ago
dudes...
the rapid breathing at the end of each exercise is a conscious choice to break the urge to hold one's breath, which raises blood pressure excessively, assists in the lift and is generally counterproductive to the sequential recruiting and fatiguing of muscle fibers
they don't look like pro bodybuilders for the same reasons most weightlifting enthusiasts don't, genetic potential chief among them
they don't look like long distance runners any more than usain bolt and michael phelps do
swevensent 3 months ago
he's really cute lol! slow mo is so hard i feel like im gonna die when i do it and when im done im like, "i should have done it harder"
katieeeeeerox392 5 months ago
if it works so great why do all these guys look like long distance runners and not bodybuilders?
tinslatee 7 months ago
@tinslatee ever heard of mike mentzer?!
Fabnakas1 7 months ago
@tinslatee
Because this is realistic training.
People want to see the freaks like Coleman, Ruhl, Cutler, etc. For the most part that is not to be found here. The guys with the freaky, natural genetics are few and far between. The rest of us can look very fit and impressive, but since we don't have the pumpkin shoulders like the boys in the IFBB, we fall short every time.
It's like comparing porn with real sex. One is a fantasy, the other a reality.
bjtucker5 3 months ago 2
WTF I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS
WHY HE SEEMS TO BE SO TIRED
andrefaaa 11 months ago
@andrefaaa dude its high intensity training !!! meaning theres a shit load of weight on there... and on top of that when you slow things down it makes it ten times harder.. when i first did HIT training and actually did a slow rep i was exhausted..
boab23 11 months ago
@andrefaaa
lol you
nicolaisb2 7 months ago
@andrefaaa
Take the momentum out of your lifts and you'll see;)
bjtucker5 3 months ago
mr jarekpiropol,check your traditional idiotic thinking and consider shutting your piehole,moron.
MrDiesel45 1 year ago
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dorian yates did abbreviated high intensity training...he did warm up sets but only 1 work set per exercise and only 3-6 sets per body part-much like mike mentzer did..of course, eventually this style of hit becomes hard on the joints and bosy
and is certainly not good for the average person...superslow hit is much safer and you get amazing results for the time invested..most important it can be done well up into age....
rmsalyer2 1 year ago
dorian yates did abbreviated high intensity training...he did warm up sets but only 1 work set per exercise and only 3-6 sets per body part-much like mike mentzer did..of course, eventually this style of hit becomes hard on the joints and bosy and is certainly not good for the average person...superslow hit is much safer and you get amazing results for the time invested..most important it can be done well up into age
rmsalyer2 1 year ago
my wife is next to me listing to the way this guy breathing, she asked me r u watching porn? loool
salehrob 1 year ago
Hey Nateman check out Todd Beard on the Exercise Inc. video.
MrDiesel45 1 year ago
Hey Nateman,check out Todd Beard on the Exercise Inc video.
MrDiesel45 1 year ago
i haven't seen one big HIT trainer on all of youtube.
73Nateman 1 year ago 2
@73Nateman I dont see much diference from heavy duty of mentzer and what we call HIT. Im a noob, but can you explain me the diference?
Niuzinho 1 year ago
@Niuzinho . One of Mike Mentzer's books was titled "High-Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way".
you can get a good used copy on used book sites. I got mine from abebooks, however you can get a kindle version or paperback on amazon.
Edfilm711 7 months ago
@Niuzinho
Just different thoughts on the same subject. All apply principles to make a workout harder. Best thing to do is research them all and try for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
For my part, I used to spend 5-6 hours a week in the gym doing multiple sets (HVT) to minimal gains.
I didn't know what hard work was until I started HIT. 12 lbs gained and now spending only 30 min in gym a week and I've never looked back. To get any bigger would mean synthetics. Not doing that.
bjtucker5 3 months ago
no fucking way is he 210. 180 tops. superslow is bull shit. look at athles, powerlifters, strongmen, bodybuilder, olympic lifters. who the fuck do you see doing super slow bull shit? no fucking one. it's about the volume and workload. to work your muscles you NEED heavy weights that are close to your 1 rep max. using this 25% of your rep max shit weight isn't gona fucking work. this shit was put to the side in the 90s when everyone realised it was shit.
bigbobabc123 1 year ago
@bigbobabc123 Look my friend take some time and look up on here. Mike Mentzer - High Intensity Bodybuilding Part 1. Here you will who else uses the superslow shit you speak of.
kravistjb 1 year ago
@kravistjb one bodybuilder out of thousands. ok that's proof. arnold, and ronnie coleman haven't used this shit. 2 of the best bodybuiilders of all time.
bigbobabc123 1 year ago
@bigbobabc123
ronnie and arnold are both great, i'm not saying volume doesnt work, it just isnt the most efficient. by the way how about Dorian Yates---High Intensity all the way for him.
kravistjb 1 year ago
@kravistjb dorian doesn't train super slow and does multiple sets per bodypart with moderate intense sets as a warm up to each exercise.
bigbobabc123 1 year ago
@bigbobabc123
i agree, the biggest guys go crazy with the weight. i think slow training is just hitting muscles with lactic acid, and actualy takes it easy on the muscles. but with heavier weights and speed one can build strength by coaxing the body to use more muscle fibers, cause actual mirco-trauma to the muscles, and take advantage of lactic acid
notjustin 1 year ago
Case in point!!!! 7:44.....notice the weight stack does NOT move in his 170# knee curl..... BS! Also...not a single muscle contraction!
Guinness0052 1 year ago
300# Sagittal Seated Chest Press???? 160# Bicep Curl??? BULLSHIT! Sure...with 37 pulleys attached. Dude is 6'1".....185#'s tops. His biceps are not even contracting on that machine. .....I fast forwarded too so I missed a lot of hocus poeckus.
Guinness0052 1 year ago
If you do very slow with a girl you won't get any good results. Everything slow does not work. Except foreplay
daniloaustralia 1 year ago
FREE WEIGHTS !!!!
fogonabomba2 1 year ago
He sounds like he's fucking the machine .
opencurtin 1 year ago
slow is actually REALLY good for u! i do slow and im getting good results
wannabefit453 1 year ago
now that's a great way bring in absolutely every muscle fibre ... well done ... most viewers would not understand the concept ... for them, you keep swinging away with the bicep curls :)
destiny6666 1 year ago
personally i think the weights he is using are to light. hit set that last over a minute i think build less muscle then sets lasting under minute.
Griffopotimus 1 year ago
The problem with slow lifts is that u get bored.U want to put more,and do it normal. When u do it slow,the barbel feels heavier.But everything you do,no matter the speed,that can burn the muscle so u really cant do any more,works.
pap0279 1 year ago
Porn ?
Hraustry 1 year ago
Bad breathing technique. This leads to less release of CO2 from the body, creates a buildup of lactic acid and tends to provide less total oxygen to your body. Dont deprive urself of less O2, especially when ur muscles need it the most.; during training., so Normal to deep breaths r preferred
luiscofresi 1 year ago
@luiscofresi uh no. Hyperventilation leads to a decrease in the amount of CO2 in the body through increased CO2 expiration. Also since not all of the air is exchanged with each breath taken, the hyperventilation will provide more fresh air to the alveoli with the result of removing more CO2 while taking in more O2.
vietbooyah85 1 year ago
o and not a bad vid mojo22hc
baseballandexercise 1 year ago
man, most of you guys are illiterate ....you have to be, your ignorant comments are nothing short of undesirable...also, all this fitness jargon bullshit about core work, and cardio vascular fitness, it gets kind of old. you guys should do one of two things: go try the workout yourself, and better yet pick up a book, and read the magic black marks inside.
baseballandexercise 1 year ago 4
who the fuck pants like a dog when they train that what a retard
CR250RidR 1 year ago
its to slow, you miss intensity!
Eriikk82 1 year ago
Super Slow is one hell of a work out. You can talk shit all you want but when your done you can barley open the door to leave the gym.
fendergreen27 1 year ago
It's very good for stabilisation. But i would pick free weights, then you train your core very well cause you have to stabilalise you core.
bcibibcibcpCB 1 year ago
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slap2tap2 1 year ago
he pants like a girl gettin fucked in the ace
slap2tap2 1 year ago
Only my trainer never has me panting like that :)
Purrrsuasive1 2 years ago
I do this exercise routine twice a week and it's amazing that twice a week for 20 mins a session REALLY works!
Purrrsuasive1 2 years ago 10
I want everyone to know that these machines use a double pulley system. This means that you're only lifting half the weight you select on the stack. This guy is about to lose a lung and have an aneurism benching 150 ish pounds on a machine. These are facts.
ptarleton 2 years ago
eat something
squat and shut up
jarekpiropol 2 years ago 9
Is this video not some of the most hilarious bullshit ever?
ptarleton 2 years ago
@jarekpiropol
Eat something like Vitamin-S perhaps?
bjtucker5 3 months ago
@bjtucker5
s-uper callories for example
jebaj0czeski0marynaz 3 months ago
@jebaj0czeski0marynaz
Just makes me tubby. Everyone (natural) has a genetic ceiling. Need those synthetics to get past it.
bjtucker5 3 months ago
Going from one exercise to the next with no rest is limiting to the intensity that can be achieved with each set. The lifter here should try splitting his workouts into a few times a week. Or just rest 5-10 minutes between muscle groups for this workout. If the goal is highest intensity, it is being lessened by doing this no rest, aerobic stuff....
eesloan4 2 years ago
SuperSlow is a subgenere of HIT. It is HIT performed at a slow cadence, but it is still HIT.
iflyboats 2 years ago
This is definitely high intensity, it made me throw up the first time I ever did it, but it is actually a little bit lighter resistance than usual. I do use it as a technique though. The panting is necessary due to cardiovascular load and O2 is a buffer for low blood pH so will inhibit too much acid production. This type of training will train the cori cycle anyway so that is a moot point.
chrislutz25 2 years ago
dam you are small
gymonster00 2 years ago
This is a TYPE of high intensity training. There are several types of 'High Intensity" training. The idea here is heavy wieght with lots of time under tension. Time under tension is what breaks the muscle down and makes it stronger. It looks very strange I know...but give it a try once in a while. You will find it is much harder than it looks. Rember 1 set should take almost 2 minutes thats a long time for your muscles to be under tension. So dont be close minded try it for a change.
flooopy1 2 years ago
@flooopy1 I understand that HIT is for advanced bodybuilders and not begginers. This guy does not look advanced at all. Mike mentzer trained volume for almost all his training years. He used HIT like the last 3 years of competing. Maybe this guy has made more progress as of late but it looks like some volume training would do him good
73Nateman 1 year ago
not HIT guys dont watch it ...its more like gay intensity training
YouNoop 2 years ago
this isn't high intensity at all
m1kasd 2 years ago
Que disparate, mala tecnica a la hor de hacer los movimientos, una respiracion pesima, por eso no tienen fisico ninguno de los dos
mrvyc 2 years ago
this is not HIT, its a poor representation of a great and effective exercise program. please dont be mislead by the poor form and lack of fluidity by these two gentlemen. one quick tip, panting during the workout is definitely not recommended due to the quick build of lactic acid which enhances fatigue. definitely not HIT.
bankdude20 2 years ago
I'm with you on the rapid panting thing! (Although it is probably a good ab wortkout - LoL).
richard20bris 2 years ago
good boy spike! keep working lmao
dowsley1 2 years ago
high intesity huh? i dunno....
renglez3 2 years ago
this is a freakin' joke! his breathing is dumb as hell... he sounds like a dog...this is NOT high intensity!
pwrtecman 2 years ago
@pwrtecman sounds more like a porno
73Nateman 1 year ago
wtf is this shit, this isn't High Intensity Training.
duba3988 2 years ago
to built good muscles superslow training is SHI..T!
belive me ! the muscle became no air.
better train with Pitt-Force : one rep pause next rep pause etc
immortalrealm 2 years ago
wtf!!! this guy is tiny ,but frigin strong!! why??
jimthegr8 2 years ago
omg dude ur so strong
xxxsmokey 2 years ago
Look up anabolicsteroidkat and get huge
C'mon, we don't want to look like HITpadawan do we? Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! !!!
SteroidsFTW1 2 years ago
jakementzer, if you isolate yourself to only using HIT you are destined for failure. Training needs change and your program should change with that. Find something that you are gaining on and stick with it until you no longer gain, then it is time to switch to something else for awhile.
joshw4288 2 years ago
does it work?
jakementzer 2 years ago
To answer your question. Yes HIT can work and it can work very successfully if you dedicate yourself to working out with 100% effort for each exercise in your HIT workout. If you do not train with 100% effort you will gain nothing by using HIT. This means going to absolute failure to the point where you could not lift the weight one more time regardless of the circumstances. But do not become narrow minded.
joshw4288 2 years ago
Wow it is nice to see some individuals on here can actually have intelligent conversations. SR1 and Spade this is directed at you. The majority of people I have posted comments with are so childish that it is impossible to have a discussion with. It is nice to see some people can actually discuss training without getting defensive. Props to the two of you.
joshw4288 2 years ago
Thank you, I appreciate that. Although there's some that would disagree with you, as I've been called an anti-HIT troll etc. This couldn't be further from the truth, I believe it has its place, like other methods. What I don't like is when people are spouting their propaganda, saying it's the only way to progress. And when I call them on it, they get defensive, REALLY defensive. AJ this Mentzer that...... Like they're infallible.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
I've just looked at that other HIT video Josh, I see you're getting a lot of shit from those 'experts'. This is what I'm talking about when I say people are getting defensive. Some just like to think they are right, even when they are way off the mark.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
Yes, I have apparently upset them which is funny because my original post on there video was that I think HIT is a great training system. But because I do not agree word for word what AJ says that makes me ignorant and a fool when it comes to exercise. Anyway, regardless, they have limited their own capabilities by there narrow-mindedness and "purist" beliefs in weight training.
joshw4288 2 years ago
Yeah, that just goes to show what kind of mind set they have doesn't it. Nothing can be questioned etcetera, absolutely pathetic, if we all thought this, the human race would never get anywhere.
Some just want to follow the doctrine and attack any that question it. Like you said, they have limited their potential by being purists - Excellent point.
Keep training mate and leave them further behind.They are the ones that'll pay for their narrow mindedness in the long run.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
To me it is just shame that those are the kinds of people promoting HIT. HIT gets a horrible rep because of the individuals who try to promote it. When two individuals weighing 150 pounds or less, who in their own video do not even train with maximum effort, are promoting HIT it makes HIT and all of it's users look like idiots. It really is a shame that a system that has it benefits gets down right tramped all over because of ignorant followers like Beethoven and Johnmichaels.
joshw4288 2 years ago 2
Yeah, it seems HIT attracts these 'sorts'. There's nothing wrong with HIT, although some applications are seriously wanting. It's some of the numb-headed followers, with their arrogance and ignorance which makes my teeth itch. Those two that you mentioned are prime examples. I'm glad you can hold a discussion, instead of being a prick like some others here.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
Being anti-hit or anti-hvt for that matter is not relevant. One should still be able to carry an intelligent discussion about weight training in general without getting defensive about his own system. I personally think HIT works great and have used it many times but I also have HVT with great results. The conclusion I always come too is that nothing is more important then hard work. If you work with 100% effort 100% of the time regardless of what system you use, you are going to make gains.
joshw4288 2 years ago
that dudes pretty strong and he doesn't even look buff!! Will HIT actually get me stronger? for example: benching really slow for about 3-6 reps
jimthegr8 2 years ago
In my opinion if you want to gain maximum strength you must lift with maximum loads. HIT's argument is that time under tension has more to do with muscle development than the weight of the load. I recommend a moderate speed (2 sec + and 2 sec -) for 3-6 repetitions if your goal is to gain maximum strength. You can also throw in a negative accentuated lift (press with both limbs, lower with only one) which will aid in building maximum strength as well.
joshw4288 2 years ago
Machines are good for building strength but as mentioned somewhere above will only work in a single plane of motion. If you hit a plateau try using machines for a short period. What I used to do was train volume style on 4 basic exercises twice per week and then 1 HIT workout on Nautilus machines once per week. This worked extremely well for myself and for the 3 clients I used to test this method.
joshw4288 2 years ago
no wonder why these guys look like chickens
stryker4750 2 years ago
sub for a sub ?
steroidsR4winners 2 years ago
Pick up a free weight for f*cks sake, this is a shit workout. Hes using a stopwatch LMAO
Superslow = Supercrap workout
MRDBrent79 2 years ago 2
dude wtf superslow = supercrap. I agree with the free weights, but superslow is superheavy, and because you run out of oxigen in your muscles MUCH faster because of the continuous strain on the muscles, you use all your muscle fibers faster then with normal reps.
It's not the most fun to do as an exercise, but it sure does work !
LenR6 2 years ago
Actually superslow is not superheavy, as you put it, it is in fact the slow lifting of lighter weights. And one more thing is, this training will not recruit all of your motor units, only low threshold ones. I wont argue that this isn't safe, because it clearly is, and it can work, but it isn't more productive than other cadences. And as for the oxygen debt, I've read otherwise. But I know it works.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
k bud get on some nautilus equiptment and try wheight you use with free wheights and youll say there shit. cuz your just weak and train incorrectly.
xtinebeauparlant 2 years ago
Hahahaha, when you learn to type in english, I might read your comment, in the meantime I'll just assume you're an ignorant teenager, who has got f*ck all experience in anything
MRDBrent79 2 years ago 2
If your claiming that people who are training with free weights, are training incorrectly, well I'd like to see how your 12 station nautilus circuit gained strength transfers to the olympic lifts. When lifting, the body should be used a complete system, which free weights address, and not broken up into components. Machines are for health clubs, not for the serious trainee.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
I agree.The free weights are far superior for building size and strength.When i trained in sHIT style and then went back to free weights my poundages were down on every exercise...and my size.Soon as i hit the free weights for a few months my size and strength came right back.The machine helpe you too much,the friction is inconsistant from one machine to another,the weigth stacks never feel the same,theres a limited amount of weight on each machine.
spade121981 2 years ago
If you have one person incline pressing 315 on a smith machine for 8 reps and another doing 8 reps on free weight bar...i guarantee you %100 if you took the guy from the machine and put him on the free weight he would be lucky to get 4 or 5 reps...but if you took the free weight guy and put him on the smith machine he would get 2 or 3 reps more.The machines are way easier to use,,,thats the main reason people use them....people are always trying to find the easy way out and avoid the hard work
spade121981 2 years ago
Exactly...look at 3 of the best exercises..the deadlift,bench press and squat...ALL are free weight exercises not machine.Sure you can do squats and bench press on a machine....but its simply just not the same and waaaaaay easier
spade121981 2 years ago
Correct, using machines looks far easier (I've never used them myself), than free weights. No machine could match a free weight exercise in terms of difficulty, take the deadlift, this is probably the best exercise in existence, and hard as f*ck!!!
I've heard off many, that didn't gain size on machines, and as for superslow reps... forget it, if you are going to control any part of the lift, it should be the negative. The positive is better done quicker, but not reckless.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
Also the stabilisers don't get worked. If you want maximum size from your training, I wouldn't bother with this workout.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
True again sr1earl...stabilizers arent used...also too if you change gyms free weights have a tendency to be more consistant...a 45lb plate is a 45lb plate..but if you use a different machine for the same exercise if never feels the same,different leverage,pulleys,different weight for each stack,more friction or less friction....or worse still the machine you used at one gym is not available at the next gym you train at....then what?
spade121981 2 years ago
its easier sr1earl...any exercise i can do on free weight compared to machine...ill take the free weight anyday....as for superslow reps...there a complete waste of time...like you said only the negative needs to be a little slow but you always drive the weight up quick.Banging out more reps will allow better receptor upgrade,higher blood volume which in turn will carry a larger supply of protein and other nutrients to the muscle....hence the reason you see all top pros doing quick reps.
spade121981 2 years ago
another point to note sr1earl is that mentzer said that the "super slow guild"..aka 10 seconds up and down is not necessary...but yet at the same time says a 4-2-4 cadence is better.....just contradicting himself.He says fast reps are no good because of momentum but yet says the super slow guild is too slow.Just seems to me that Mike thinks only HIS methods are best....oh please MIke dont make me laugh...not one single pro uses a 4-2-4 cadence...and for good reason because its useless.
spade121981 2 years ago
Yeah I agree, 4-2-4 is too slow, I haven't got a problem with people slowing their reps down, but giving certain numbers to go by is a little daft.
This is why HIT, is not HIT! It's a misnomer, 'cause they choose a weight light enough so they can move it slow, say, 60% of 10RM or whatever... That is not intense! I'd rather load the bar more and lift and not think about seconds per rep and just concentrate on moving the bar in it's correct path.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
exactly....and its never consistent either..one minute its 4-2-4 then 5-1-3 then 4-1-5...its all over the place....using heavier weights with proper form will pack the mass on quicker...i mean look at the size of these of these guys....if i saw them on the street i wouldnt even think they go to a gym
spade121981 2 years ago
...exactly and on some of the hit videos their letting the plates touch which takes all the stress of the muscle.....
spade121981 2 years ago
This is a big no no in HIT. One of the principles in HIT is that the muscle should always have the weight on it. Meaning no resting at the point where the stress is very low such as in a squat (standing position) or barbell curl (the fully contracted position). If you watch Ellington Dardens 5 min HIT program you will see he emphasizes to extend almost fully but not the point where the stress moves from the muscle to the joint.
joshw4288 2 years ago
.....its a big no no even using a regular rep speed....not to mention when hes doing the leg press hes getting almost zero range of motion,hes pushing from his whole foot and not the heel(the ball of his foot should be off the platform when his legs are extended on every rep) this way your thighs flex on every rep and speeds up growth.Stand on the floor and bring the balls of your feet off the floor and keep your heels on the floor and you will see your legs flex even if you try to resist it.
spade121981 2 years ago
To continue with this...
If you are moving to quickly (thrusting the bar off your chest letting it bounce up) then yes, momentum has taken over. Your positive movement should be controlled with all the stress on the muscle but does not need to be "slow". In other words maybe it will take 1-2 seconds to push the bar up. The negative can and in my opinion should be emphasized with a slightly slower movement. But again this need not be "slow", just controlled by the muscle.
joshw4288 2 years ago
I agree bouncing the bar off the chest is wrong...just a nice controlled rep is all thats required...this 4-2-4 cadence shit is a complete waste of time....no pros use it....if it had benefits they would be using it.
spade121981 2 years ago
I agree, bouncing off the chest is wrong and can be dangerous. DC uses a slow negative and a explosive concentric, now if you really want a hard workout that delivers, do DC (It's not HIT), although it is meant to be for the more advanced. If anyone here is a beginner reading this, leave DC well alone until you know you're ready for it. Many simply aren't.
SR1EARL 2 years ago
@MRDBrent79 you obviously have never heard of HIT.
afterthefact15 1 year ago
@MRDBrent79 That's a superdumb comment
MATPOCOB 1 year ago
I think HIT is great as part of a plateau busing regime. If you use HIT for a couple weeks (maybe 3) then go back to your routine, I've found it helps get me past some sticking points.
The biggest failure i see with HIT is the normal person in the gym doesn't even come close to the amount of intensity to make difference.
mathiastheok 2 years ago
In my opinion 1 Set is enough. I train about one year with one set after six years of Volumentraining and my results are similar to the 3Sets. (Maybe a little bit better, because I don´t need that much recovery.) So why I should do more than one. I´m sure the one Set Training doesn´t work for everyone. If you are not able to put all your intensity in one set and train to failure(and beyond) it won´t work.
btw: I´m using machines and free weights as well.
JayBee81082 2 years ago
If you´ve done your Homework you would know that some pro´s and ex-pro´s uses HIT.
I´m sure no one of you have ever tried to train like this. This is real hard work. So don´t say it does not work, if you have never tried.
JayBee81082 2 years ago
I have tried it and it doesn't work.....There aren't any pros that use it.Yates trained 4 days a week and so did Mentzer.Yes the workouts are hard....but the results are non existant.....hence the reason you wont find one pro using it.After using hit for several months and getting nothing from it I went back to free weights 3 to 4 days a week and presto all my size and strength came back.I guarantee you keep using machines and then go back to free weights your strength will be waaaay down.
spade121981 2 years ago
If its works sooooo good....why are they sooo small......obviously it doesnt work well.Try and find one pro here on youtube using a 4-2-4 cadence.....good luck...because you wont find one pro or top amatuer using...its well known that faster reps work better because of receptor upgrade(especially when your on juice).....i think you better do the homework.
spade121981 2 years ago
if you think Yates did only one set your kidding yourself.For incline he would do 225,315, and then max out with 405.He would count the first 2 sets as "warm ups"...but in reality its no different than another person simply pyramiding up in weight over 3 sets and counting every set instead of Yates just counting the last set.Its 3 sets no matter which way you look at it......not 1 set like Yates would have you believe.
spade121981 2 years ago
The Superslow system def beats the volume approach - not exaclty sure if training that slow is really needed but not a bad video afterall - atleast you guys have great form and take it to the limit - versus some of these volume trolls out there - MR
mrhighintensity 2 years ago
too bad the volume trolls look sooooo much better though eh Marcus....and what would you know Marcus about taking it to the limit....you just go through the motions remember.
spade121981 2 years ago
If it works so much better than how come not one single pro or top amateur uses HIT eh Marcus......performing the reps quicker works waaaaaaaay better.....noob......
spade121981 2 years ago
These 2 guys in this video don't even look like they have even seen the inside of a gym.....so much for Shit ...oh im sorry i mean hit.LOL
spade121981 2 years ago
yeah,from the freaky amount of muscle that the trainer and trainee have this is definetly the best system out there. they both look like they never even touched a weight before this vid was taken
chriseschete 2 years ago
hey all u fagget ass bitches that say slow burn is gay or for pussies its prolly caus u cant do it.... go to exerciseinc (.) com look at the facts.. start slow burn and gain real strength
thetimeisdip30 3 years ago
super slow is super gay.
JesusLicksMyNads 3 years ago
pussy
universe990 3 years ago
it sounds like your mastrubating wtf..
SporeIsNr1 3 years ago 2
I would highly object to his lack of care for posture, the way he bends his neck forward in an erratic manner. His upper back is bent already and he is making it worse. Also, loss of posture makes the excersice less effective.
Khloris 3 years ago
is not good that he breath like that he gotta breath with his nose not with the mouth
berrija99 3 years ago
The World Record Strict Curl, at any bodyweight, (RawPowerlifting), is 175lbs, yet we're told Kyle does SuperSlow reps with 160 for 85 seconds! We either need standardization of resistance, or Kyle needs to go break some records by quite a bit.
lazur1 3 years ago
The numbers on the stack are arbitrary. They could label 1000 lbs, it is irrelevent. The only purpose of the number is to record your most recent mark. You think this guy could super-slow a 300 lbs. bench press...no way. The machine, its mechanics, its point of resistence and pivot, all come into play when calculating and considering weight. He can report all of these numbers all he wants, it doesn't mean a thing in the scheme of things.
bittsman18 3 years ago
great workout. BUT .. that dog panting needs to go. you sound like my doberman after a run.
conanconquer 3 years ago
there are certain exercises that you can't rely upon momentum, such as the chest press. Since your sitting down, as long as your back is straight at all times, the more reps the better. If you are doing them too quickly in these exercises, then you should increase the weight so you reduce rep sets to 15's, 10's or sets of 8
TeamXtreeme619 3 years ago
if you throw a ball up in the air and it goes 20 feet up are you pushing it the whole way?..your rep scheme is you predetermining when you stop..so there is no real failure.. the body did not shut down, the mind did.listen dont bother with the argument..i thought like you do 11 yrs ago im way past the muscle and fiction magazine gym rat assumption based rotuines..this stuff works and is the safest way.
epstein 3 years ago
i feel like a bitch seeing this ..i do big 3 .maybe linear spine extention...
epstein 3 years ago
i agree that doing it slower is the way forward. But doing exercises that slow is a bit pointless since you sacrifice reps
TeamXtreeme619 3 years ago
really? do the reps mean more mentally or physically? is it better to do 15 reps for 30 seconds or 3 reps for 1 minute?
epstein 3 years ago
I have a question for all you smart guys. So, is it better to work out with slow reps and go to failure or fast reps and go to failure? Will these exercises make me stronger? please answer my question...anyone.
jimthegr8 3 years ago
no...superslow seems harder than it is, since you lose breath...(as u can see in the video) this makes the workout seem harder than it actually is for your muscle...
himmeldiewelt 3 years ago
You're referring to the oxygen debt - and you are correct. If a set lasts too long, then your lungs will fail before your muscles, and you wont stimulate much growth as a result though you WILL improve your cardiovascular ability.
The key to a proper HIT style set is use enough weight to reach failure after about a minute, and lift the weights good and slow during this time, keeping constant tension on the muscle.
HITpadawan 3 years ago
when you move quickly you depend on momentum this is not work.. move slow you work the whole time..you will be way stronger also you will never hit failure unless instructed properly
epstein 3 years ago
Each faction thinks other methods are inferior. There's no "better": The -main- improvement from -any- method is in the performance -of- the method. What builds the most muscle?: Hard to know. SS isn't embraced by bodybuilders. Perhaps genetically gifted trainees would do well with it, but so far, SS hasn't bult any of the best bodies. SS recently began using longer set times/lighter weights. This may be a good way to combine strength & endurance, but not to build the most muscle.
lazur1 3 years ago
HIT works wonders.
Superslow is rediculous.
Bad form and more weight doesn't make you bigger... Just gives you big injuries.
LatterDaySaintRWT 3 years ago 2
Not having a go, but has anyone noticed the guys that push/pull more weights are bigger?
I could see a slower cadence when prepping for a contest, but to get big doing this doesn't make sense. Just my 2 cents.
winger1 3 years ago
to start on the pull he should just "squeeze" out of the bottom - not that preliminary nonsense at the "top" to start....don't drop the weight at the conclusion...too much "coaching"
wbod1 3 years ago
"...each set of super-slow exercise should be completed within the maximum range of your anaerobic energy system (90 seconds)" - Dr. Wayne Westcott 'High-Intensity Strength Training'
ecommodate 3 years ago
John,
High intensity strength training, even SuperSlow, will produce a degree of cardiovascular conditioning that is at least equal to, and in many cases better than what can be had by running. It is comparable to high intensity interval training in cardiovascular effect, but with the added benefit of also building strength.
DrewBaye 3 years ago
I turned off the sound, why such an intense breathing? lol
Briax89 3 years ago 3
i also don't understand why he has to breath that way..is that a technique or something??
nilodes 3 years ago
Is there a reason he's doing this in his bare feet ?
veejay56 3 years ago
only question is why did they do legs last? they are the most important, should be done first.
Lower body stimulates the upper body anyways, so there is no reason why legs are last... Besides they just don't understand the importance of training legs, and how it stimulates the rest of the body
freakina3 3 years ago
because hit leg training is so exausting.After legs, im finished.
coomohit 3 years ago
The workout shown in this video will work, I guarantee!
eagle0468 3 years ago
In 12 weeks of doing this workout, I gained over 20 pounds of pure muscle. I went from 195 and about 14% body fat to 205 and 8% body fat. I was ripped!!
Working out is about intensity, but the most important point of the exercise is to bring the muscles to failure. I.E. you can't even think of doing another rep. That was the key. And what made the workout nauseating.
eagle0468 3 years ago
I did a high intensity workout somewhat similar to this when I was younger. It was a circuit training workout on a nautilus circuit, some of the best machines ever made. I would do this workout three to four times a week. One of the key points of the intensity was not necessarily the anaerobic focus that this workout obviously has, but the control of motion. I would use the concept of two seconds in positive motion, one second hold, then three seconds in the negative motion.
eagle0468 3 years ago
there is no way that he is using a true 320 lbs of resistance on the bench for super-slow reps. I would like to see him do it with 320 lbs of olympic free weights. I would guess that he is using the equivalent of around 180 lbs on the bench at the most.
ed257 3 years ago
ed257:
He's using 320 lbs., but lifting it less vertical distance than with a barbell. Vertical distance times weight (force) equals mechanical work. This is a major error many people make when trying to compare equipment. 100 lbs. lifted 1 ft. is the same as 50 lifted 2 ft. If you don't think it's impressive, try it. Remember, everyone has relative strength capabilities, depending on the method used. Everyone must use less weight when moving slower, so it levels the playing field.
sirenofmillhill 3 years ago
Great effort and video. Thanks.
Are you typically increasing weight or time each session?
metrodave 3 years ago
The general intent for progressive resistance exercise, for superslow or other rep cadences, is to stay at a given level of resistance until the upper limit of a predetermined repetition guideline is reached, at which time resistance will be increased for the next workout and the process continues. Thus, time is emphasized first as a consequence of (ideally) exceeding the previous reps with a given resistance, and then weight is adjusted upward when appropriate.
TheLodiProject 3 years ago
He breathes like my dog.
mistyfields 3 years ago
mine too !
conanconquer 3 years ago
If you saw my ol' man you would know why I am skinny. I never claimed to be a champion bodybuilder. I had only been training for about 6 months before this video. This is also just a sample that we made for our clients to see. We usually do more weight with less reps and forced negatives.
mojo22hc 3 years ago
everyon advocate of H.I.T. happens to be skinny. Thats not coincidence....hit isnt the way to go...
WUTANG826 3 years ago
Genetics determine someones size not there routine
EngcelotHIT 3 years ago
Eng,
I agree 99%!. My recent exposure and experience has shown what I thought were my own genetic limits (at 50+ years) have been quickly overcome by focusing more on weight/load increases rather than time. I used to hold my wieghts until I added a rep or about 15-20 seconds, but now I always add weight(1 to 2-1/2 pounds typically) and hold TUL. Now I get stronger every workout with visible muscle gains and measureable strength gains.
metrodave 3 years ago
Six months ago I would have flamed you for saying this....But man, you're right!
MartyboyIV 3 years ago
muscles can't count. Muscle building isnt really about how many sets you do, it is about the intensity. You cant say for example that doing 3 sets and not hitting failure is better than doing one set to total failure.
set count is down to personal preference really. I do 2 sets per exercise and go as close to failure as i can go. Too many people think they hit failure when they dont.
lathesius 3 years ago
Lath,
Me recent experience is that inensity is best achieved by increasing the load (weight) as opposed to increasing time. For me, this assures intensity near or at failure ... every workout. My TUL's end up being about 50 to 60 seconds for one set. Good points BTW.
metrodave 3 years ago
what is up with the breathing
z28chevcam69 3 years ago
You have to breathe like that when your doing superslow as you exert for 5 seconds and let down for 10 seconds try benching or curling like that and see how you start to breathe.
espDoctor 3 years ago
He is getting an orgasm XD
TerenceHill24 3 years ago