"Bad logic", "shamy loss", "primitive designations". These are kind of big words coming from someone who considers unreliable Britannica Encyclopedia or the US Library of Congress and in the same time can't backup not a single statement he says. I truly enjoy the perseverance, unfortunately for you, and the trolls of your kind, nobody actually cares outside Hungary. And it must piss you off sooo bad buddy.
@gogoasacenusieYour behavior is well-known,a Romanian who choose impossible myths to believe but every time loose when decisive,contemporary evidence should be shown.Those who could be mislead with controlled contented citations,are proving their poverty.Real science is about facts,you can prove.Reality and facts does not really depend on who cares or not(see concrete mathematics).You are a bad looser,as everyone can see(and never forget, Andorra is in Europe :)bye, primitivus!
@sghxcy , i feel sorry you have a personal problem with me and if you actually think you are debating or having a contest or something. You don't even a basic knowledge of your own history and you don't even care about history of Hungary or Romania, you're just here to troll. By the way, it's great you know that Andorra is in Europe and shared this information with me. Soon, thanks to your 15 years of deep historical studies, you'll be able to find your own country on the map too. Have fun buddy
@gogoasacenusie Just accuse me about what you do,about trolling,personal problems,although this is all of your kind.You even want to borrow other's history.Information about Andorra is worthy to you,who's fixa idea is the U.S. and Anglo-Saxon sources,although the facts and contemporary docs were still present when the U.S. were not even foundedXDI have beaten you anytime,anywhere regarding HUN or ROM history.Try to do something else like making mess,because facts deeply hurt you.
@sghxcy I'm not going to ask you how could you live with such logic, because s obvious you do. But I beg you to satisfy my curiosity to tell me how kids shout you on the street?
@ppnvrd You should not sink to Gogo's level.Made again a provocative question.If the professional logic based on empirical and research facts,the method our worlds advanced science are based on,etc.bothers you I should ask the question:how long will such people think in the 21th century,that they can achieve anything with lies,deceptions and childish behavior?Every cultivated/educated people can immediately see the problems Others/I pinpointed.(I don't shout kids in the streets,missed!)
@ppnvrd However, in a population approx. only 2% is culture-creative, means they have 130 IQ or more. Youtube is not a perfect place to debate, but there are places where a higher Romanian intelligentsia exist but also have it's boundaries many times (see Wiki). Of course average people not always born to a mathematician, thus they don't know and cannot apply the rules of fair arguing and fair inference and proving methods. The 2% lives with your "unwanted" logic, pfffffffff!
@gogoasacenusie Just to make everyone see how a bad looser like make much more awful lies at the end:"can't back up not a single statement he say's"It's you,you have done it many time,all you can do is to copypaste some citations having an assumption without proof.I have all sources and all original documents,you could also research,if you you'd be not so stupid to find them,but we know you don't even want to know about them, because your imaginary world would be collapsed...Poor
Unlike the neighbors, all the important religious terms entered Romanian language via vulgar Latin. Even the Greek terms...it logically means that proto-romanians were converted to Christianity in the Latin language. Later the Bulgarian Slavs brought the old church Slavonic.This Slavic presence also implies it was a big buffer area between Romanians and Greeks. Thing which is more than proven scientifically with the help of the so-called "Jireček Line"...
@gogoasacenusie Bad logic, a typical slip of the Romanian history writing. Your imaginary "proto-Romanians" never converted to Christianity, and always protested later any kind such attempt (although they announce themselves the real successor of Rome). In the times of Reformation, when the first religious works appear in Romananian, they are full with Slavic and Hungarian "barbarisms". The times were the latin are flourishing in Europe, you're life is full Slavic...
@sghxcy , "You should spare you primitive designations about who knows what or so, or age since, you suffered a shamy loss regarding many things (see black olahs, etc)."
I like your arrogance. But you still can't write not even a single link regarding anything you say.
"The only problem is these people migrated from the south to the territory today they live"
Great, one little problem. There isn't, officially, not even a single historical chronicle mentioning it.
Sghxcy, you know, i was reading your profile. Among the rich sources of information posted on your channel to prove your point i've stumbled over these 2:
"About me: ONLY TRUE HISTORY"
"Only those maintain censorship who are afraid of the Truth"
I know realize you actually are a sincere person. In this completely wacko tornado of ideas you have in your head, you actually believe what you say. These notions you describe here are very seriously worth a movie.
@gogoasacenusie Don't worry, wil make videos, if I'd have enough time, but many works and data are awaiting me about Romania and Romanians, so I will first analyze these sources. Don't expect rich sources on my profile, their place belong somewhere else. Try to meet with other evaluations, not only those who are pushing all the same.
@sghxcy , Bonfini, 14th century, greatest Italian humanist:
"Because the Romanians are descendants of the Romans, a fact that even today is attested by their language, a language that, even though they are surrounded by diverse barbarian peoples, could not be destroyed.... even if all kinds of barbarian attacks flooded over the province of Dacia and the Roman people, we can see that the Roman colonies and legions that had been established there could not be annihilated"
@gogoasacenusie I know Bonfini's works,not surprising an Italian humanist regognizing people speaking a Romance language.However,he just only indicating people survived speaking vulgar latin, so what?They could not be annihilated,so what?The only problem is these people migrated from the south to the territory today they live, and Bonfini can't prove the direct continuity of the legions possibly survived there,but can write romantic assumptions.
The main idea which i repeat is that there is no such thing as a pure people. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. As the time passed, different groups of people have been assimilated. Religion also played ( and unfortunately still plays...) a major role in history and who has ears to listen and brains to understand, will know its tremendous role played in this entire area. You have to see the big picture and then progress to the smaller details...
@gogoasacenusie Yes, agree, se todays Europe, where everything is corrupted to Indo-European although it doesn not equal with the white or caucasian race, only it means Nordic=Aryan in reality But if you see Germany, there's the imganinary border between Nordic blond people and the South-German dominantly with brown charachteristics. Bayer=(Bój+avar)=Celtic+avar mix. Whole Europe is a mix of Celts, Huns, Avars, Aryans, Mediterraneans, ancient Caucasians, Sarmatians, etc.
@gogoasacenusie Gogo, until 1622 you had a Slavic administration. If you are Roman and Dacian, why you use foreign language, toponyms? Why have your church and old-Slavic language? Why were you designated to the Ochrida Church district? Do you know Panaitescu',s A.D. Xenopols or Onciuls evaluation? You are the mix of this nations, mentioned above, but finally the Rumun, neo-latin language and consicence won, that's all. Meet history, unleashed!
@sghxcy , you obviously have no clue about your own history so talking about others' history is a joke. Sghxcy, the Slavonic and the Greek language were the only languages used in Ortodoxy, otherwise it was a heresy. It's the same with Hungary which used Latin which was the only language used by Catholics. But here comes the funny thing, my dear friend, the people used in day by day Romanian language ask all the Italian humanists even from the 14th century, including Bonfini who testifies for it
@gogoasacenusie You should spare you primitive designations about who knows what or so, or age since, you suffered a shamy loss regarding many things (see black olahs, etc.) You can always accuse, but what you write about me is true about you. In the Orthodox church everyone had the right to use it's own language, unlike Catholic-Latin that time. Never denied they plebs speak rumun mostly, but the fact they most never used it even by toponyms, show us their roots.
Also the specific horn used by shepherds called "Bucium"....or the ancient waistbands called by Dacians Bracina and by romanians as bracinari...the similarities are so numerous only blind people refuse to see them. Folk is the core of a civilization buddy. And the Dacian folk elements are still alive in Romanians. There are also big Slavic influences and even ancient Roman fests like the Martisor....That along Cuman influence ( places Comana, Comanesti, Teleorman etc )...
@gogoasacenusie The Romanian element became dominant in the two Voivodeships after 1622. So long Greeks, Ismaeltie Bulgarians, Slavs, Ruthenians, Cumans, and Rumuns gave the population. It is normal that successor nations always inherit elements of other's culture, but this Dacians thing is a little bit pushy, chasing a great myth. In the South, with so many influences, many things are possible, but you are at first Italians/Illyrians/Greeks/Slavs.
- Clothes - identical to the ones depicted on Trajan's Column. I've actually seen the Column with my own eyes. Look at the specific shoes - "opinci", the trousers "itari", the embroderies with the amazing patterns kept for literally thousands of years ( look at the featured vid on my channel for this)
- Dances - take for example "Calusari dance". It's under Unesco heritage and it survived for milleniums as it's still practiced!
@gogoasacenusie I can tell the same, it is possible, of course Dacia has affected it's environment, but Romans and Dacians were deadly enemies a different ethno-linguistic group. I am only against fringe theories and myths because of political purpose, local customs could inheirted in the Dacia Aureliana, etc. But the in Wallachia, Moldavia the folks had zero Dacian conscience or so.
Get out from Ardeal, you folthy migrators. In fact, get out from Europe,you are the only asiatic tribe who has nothing european. I forgot, turks too !
Libraries? How about this one - the US Library of Congress:
"Romanians descend from the Dacians, an ancient people who fell under Rome's dominance in the first century A.D., intermarried with Roman colonists, and adopted elements of Roman culture, including a Vulgar Latin that evolved into today's Romanian.
@gogoasacenusieThe one is the hamster who tries to rape the same bullshit again and again expecting a different answer.You repeat all agiprop your kinf did.This"U.S. library"a well-know rhetoric of yours.And if the Congress library would state that yellow bats are falling from the sky and Austria is famous from Kangaroos,than it is true?Has the library the J.F. Montgomery: Hungary,The unwilling sattelite?Just having a book in a library has no value, only the PROOF(that not exist)
@sghxcy , aha. So by far, The US Library of Congress and Britannica Encyclopedia are not credible sources. I'm starting to think there's a whole conspiracy against Hungary. Basically it's at a planetary level...hmm...you know who to blame right? The Jews and the Illuminati.
@gogoasacenusieIt is well known and there are many works and debate about the altered history writing,beginning with nationalistic romantic era of the 19th cent,continuing after the two world wars,after the so-called Anglo-Saxon type history writing and it's citations are dominating.This is a phenomemon,with many distractions and not only Hungarians recognized this.Plenty of examples that educated people can't eat since counter-proof exist.Only facts counts,nothing else.
@sghxcy , dude. In case you haven't figured it out by now, Hungary is a small country. Romania is also a small country. Neither Romania nor Hungary would present ANY interest for planetary conspiracies. The problem here is the ego of some people including yourself. Do yourself a favor, stop dreaming and start living.
@gogoasacenusie It would be easy to end so,ain't it?My ego never exeeded those who has only one reality,like some extremist Romanian propagandist who have never met an objective evaluation and judges everything against their dogmas as an untruthful evil-aimed attack.I will study and have more information on the topic,will never tolerate propagating historical deceptions.You speak about conspiracy,but I speak about reality.Grow up, world is not so perfect as you might think.
@sghxcy , well, it's not a perfect world, you're damn right about that, but at least i don't invent myself another reality just to cure my inferiority complexes like you do. I'm not the one considering Britannica Encyclopedia or the US Library of Congress as unreliable sources so i suggest you follow your own advice you've just written buddy. There is no conspiracy but another phenomenon happening here.
@gogoasacenusie Oh, not we have the inferiority complex, those nations with new countries who have to sustain anti-Hungarianism as the assurance of their territorial integrity and thus keeping romantic myths alive, to say nothing about extremism playing the Hungarian card can earn additive 20% in the elections. Oh Yes U.S. is reliable, who officialy thought Andorra is in Africa, and the state official claimed why noone told us it is an European country :D VERY RELIABLE XD
@sghxcy , so, you see, the worse a socio-economical situation gets in a country the bigger the extremist movements grow. It's a directly proportional equation. Generally speaking poor people are very susceptible to charismatic leaders rising and promising all sorts of things and appealing to "national consciousness". It's a simple explanation. They are trying to fulfill the primordial level on Maslow's hierarchy - the basic needs for survival. And they'll do anything for that, including war.
@gogoasacenusie Yes,it has direct connection to the actual life conditions.In a country where a standard of living is good,extremism can't really arise.My duty has no connection to that,I hate those who support propaganda and deceptions unconditionally and distribute untruthful hatred.My goal is peace.Fortunately I could contact Romanians who met with the sources and they knew much more original primary source for Black-Olah than I, unlike you.Remember this before you accuse!
@sghxcy , ",I hate those who support propaganda and deceptions unconditionally and distribute untruthful hatred"
Great, me too. Look buddy, about the "romantic myths", often disguised in protochronism. There is no such thing as a pure people anywhere on the planet. Romanian ethnogenesis consists of Dacians, Romans, Slavs, Cumans, Magyars. Romanians didn't originate in south Balkans, not only because there is no historical backup but also look at how low is E1B1B Balkanic marker on Eupedia
@gogoasacenusie Buddy, Romanian ethnogenesis is made by Italians, Greeks, Illyrians, Bulgarians, Slavs, Ruthenians mostly, Dacian element could only appear if some Dacians migrated to the south, some historians claim about that. Today's Eumarkers can't be accepted phrotochronistically, I haven't said you have balkanic dna or so, as if some Italians would migrate to Ethiopia, that would not change their genetic marker, or vica versa....
@sghxcy , you know...i actually have a friend which is exactly the same typology like you are. No matter what me or others tell him, even if it's true or false, he always has something to say in contradiction or objection. Basically even if i tell him that 2+2=4, he will find something to object to that too. Just for the sake of objection. His contributions are 99% of the time irrelevant and futile and he ends up being a clown. Try not to be like that.
@gogoasacenusie Man, I might be look like those who have never met with well-known historical deceptions, but only well-accepted encyclopedia. Don't worry I even needed 15 years at minima to have my current views, I haven't sucked it from my thumb. Just check the oldest primary Roman, Greek chronicles, or Indo-European history writing, then check the alteration made in the 18th-19th cent. I'm glad since as many Indo-European sources prove my point as many claims the opposite.
@sghxcy , " Just check the oldest primary Roman, Greek chronicles, or Indo-European history writing, then check the alteration made in the 18th-19th cent"
Where do you see alterations and what chronicles are you talking about? Concrete please.
"Noone debated it is possible in the south, but not above the Danube that time"
You're contradicted by about 10 chronicles, including Hungarian chronicles and archaeology.
@sghxcy , you know how easily can be shown that Dacians are part of Romanians? Do you know about the Strategikon of Kekaumenos? It was written by this Byzantine general in about the 11th century. He writes also about the Vlahs from south ( the branches of Romanians ). He calls them directly "Dacians and Bessi". Even more, do you that Romanians have also many folk elements like clothes or even dances kept from the Dacians? But again, Dacians are only a component of Romanian ethnogenesis
Take a look at the E1B1B Balkanic genetical haplogroup percentage:
Romania: 9
Bulgaria: 22
Albania: 27.5
Hungary: 9.5
Romanians do not originate anywhere in south Balkans. The whole area is genetically a melting pot. The main element which connects us all are the Slavs. Hungary has a huge percentage of Slavic marker - 32.5%.
@gogoasacenusie I haven't spoken about genetic continuity,but if you check the language heritage,the way of migrations,culture and historical facts,documents you can easily chase the way of the Italian settlers from Apulia to Ochrida,and their way to Moesia,etc.Slavic genetics or markers not exist,it is only a language family.Hungarians have R1A1(30%-60%), that is"Eurasian steppe-gene",but of course the Indo-Europeans corrupted this as well to Indo-Iranian,as well the Scythians.
.......Between the 10th and 14th centuries new political formations emerged in the Carpathian-Danube region. The Hungarians, who had settled in Pannonia at the end of the 9th century and who entered Dacia in the 10th century, overwhelmed the Slavic-Romanian duchies, or voivodates, that they encountered there."
@gogoasacenusie Poor result, since everybody just 2 seconds can access info by hitting "kara ulagh wiki", maybe you're the only who can't since weeks :D What you have found is a falsified EncycLIEpedia Britannica citation that has zero value, since the statement can't be prooved, and how many biassed info it has (WWII), etc. Secondary source only with proof can be acceptable, contemporary primary sources has value.
@sghxcy , yes, i know Encyclopedia Britannica, the biggest encyclopedia of the planet, is false. "Sghxcy" from youtube is right. Wait. Ahahahahahahahah
@gogoasacenusie Just a collection of citations has no real value, as wikipedia as well does not reflect the truth (as it openly announces it). You can add everything, if there's someone inthe earth published it, regardless it can be prooved or not. Britannica has editors, and they decide what citations will take place. Unfortunately it contains mostly the Romanian point of view, that's all. Even Americans recognized Britannicas serious imbalance.
Barack Obama is Chinese! Anyone who says otherwise is wrong because his skin is actually a deep yellow and he had slender eyes but he made an aesthetic surgery! You have to believe me because i said so!
Your truly sincere,
Sghxcy from Youtube
PS: Don't forget to subscribe and i'll also teach you cool Latin phrases! Like "Facto sunt Facto"!
@gogoasacenusie Thank You revealing the youtube community how a deeply ignorant bastard, average Romanian can behave every time he loose. Don't expect only you and me reading our lines, you make the worse propaganda to your country, intelligent Romanians worrying about you. Meet you half year later, you'll get pretty much help where to start your own research, you've got plenty authors. Don't piss against wind, better start to work! La revedere!
@gogoasacenusie People like you can only troll, demand and ask, but never prove or show something. You're not my boss or judge, your knowledge are seriously inbalanced so you'd better start to develop your objectivity. Did you know about Rubriquis, Baco and Abulghazi calling Volga-Bulgarians as "olah"? Or Pachymeres calling nomadic-Turk nation as "olah"? If not, start to learn history and come back a half year later when you have the SUFFICIENT knowledge to debate! IGNORAMUS!
@gogoasacenusie Yes dirty jackal, that's the reason, if you would not have such a primitve and awful behavior, you'd directly get the page numbers, but your kind is one of the deepest. You have to confess and work! (Don't worry, members of the Wikiproject Romania will surely tell you where from they inserted the persian source for black-olahs, but I have a surely different source. The PRIMARY SOURCE is all the same, barbie. Get lost!
@gogoasacenusie It's you problem that you're incapable to make an effective and valuable research. Biassed citations can be found easily by every dumbhead. Work on the links, gogo, google is your friend, ain't it? Won't give anything your mouth, like you awfully did about obama I would never say. But better visit libraries, national archives, not just the internet. First work, got the evidence, than make argumentation, nothing else possible!
BAG PULA IN TOTI UNGURII PIZDII MASII BOZGORII PULIII FUTA-VA IROD SI CINE V-O FACUT ,,,CRED CA SUNTETI O NATIE DE INCULTI SI DE NESPALATI SPER CA INTR-O ZI SA SE CARE TOTI UNGURII DIN ROMAINA!!!
Constantinos Porphy De adm. imp. 42.->Black-Bulgarland, later the Greeks use->Black-Olahland.Serbians used for Wallachia->Black-Vlachland "czrni arapi". (Mauro-Vlach). Fazel-ullah-Rasid Persian historian: Kara-Ulagh. And Before you make scandal again, I'tell you now: Hasdeu also known this works, but he wanted to force this should be meaning Black-Rumun, although it is impossible, since horse-nomadic nations used the black-white designations.
@gogoasacenusie Lady Gogo, you've mistaken me with someone else, you were silence weeks ago, I can understand because you were fully ashamed and beaten. Facto sunt facto. The designation "olah" has many meaning but you always want to corrupt it to "rumun", although the deception is VISIBLE to every learned people who knows history. If you can't make any valuable contribution, just a nationalistic trolls, you'd better stand down, not to make you much more ridicoulous.
@sghxcy , interesting expression "facto sunt facto". Where did you learn it, at the history lessons, along with the "black olahs"? I admit, i can't make more contribution on the altar of trollness. You're the troll boss.
@gogoasacenusie So hard is for you to meet the facts? Hasdeu did, as everybody who know the old documents and archives, it is also known today Romanian historians, but unfortunately the average Romanian NEVER heard from it, but all of the nationalistic propaganda without limit or healthy boundary or objectivity. That is you! Learn history, instead of trolling.
@gogoasacenusie Fortunately you recognize you great illness. You've given everything you need at your primitive level, much more of that, if you can't find it on your own, that really shows you've met only one sided works and propaganda. Check Byzantine documents, Serbian documents, however I don't trust wiki, but it also knows the persian Quara-Ulagh version. I won't give you everything in your mouth, make an own research if you consider yourself so good bastard!
I have to excuse myself once again before you, oh, Sghxcy, Lord of Trolls. I hope you'll accept my apologies and don't punish my "white olah" ass ( no homo ). xD
@gogoasacenusie Man, you don't need this. You can solve confusions or not. so long you don'tmake clear Kézai's mistake about the runic wrting, etc. or present any irrefutable proof of continuity, just shut up.
@gogoasacenusie The one is uneducated, who speaks about trolling and run away from solving confusions. Evidence talk. If you haven't met with these confusions, you need more education, its so easy!
Actually there were white and black CUMANS not "Olahs" xD and the term is geographical and used much later xD. And Blachos is a Greek term as written on your own Hungarian History National website.The Blachs/Vlahs were Christian and Latin according to Oguzname the oldest Turk Chroncle and the term can be correlated easy with the writing from other chronicles like Nestor's primary where he mentions the fights between "Volohs" and Magyars you lil hamster xD
@gogoasacenusie Also exists original docuements about white Olahs (and not Cumans, this is an ANOTHER). However, if you mean Christian here as non-Orthodox, these are the minority since the greatest impossibility of the continuity theory not even a religious riun exist, and even Rome haven't known about you, nor Constantinopole above the Danube. The Christian "Olahs" could refer to others as well, however, thanks for the info, although it's not decisive, Lady Gogo.
All these various people have been magyarized. Original magyar people are shown on Chronicum Pictum as being small, yellowish skin and slender eyes. The Szekely people, which are not even Hungarian, have been another Turanic wave, which according to the Hungarian Simon Kezai have been settled in the mountains with Vlachs/Romanians. The conquest of Transylvania is described in Gesta Hungarorum and it even mentions the political structures found there including the of Gelu "duke of Vlachs"
@gogoasacenusieJoke my friend,and you say I should learn history???XD Hungarians has no connection to yellows.Original Magyars were of 4 Sabir tribes and 3 Onogur tribes.Even then their genetic was Caucasian,but because of migration in Asia,some south-Mongoloid markers could be found.That's all.Oh yes,and these "Vlachs" gave us the runic writing, that has no connection to Indo-European languages....this reveals the confusion of Kézai's work. it could mean also the turkic Balaks.
@gogoasacenusie You run away every time your huge indoctrination is shown? No, I wrote in my last comment, the word Blaci, Vlach, Olah had several meaning, like, sheperd, peasant, Otrhodox, Latin-speaking, mountain people, even used as Blakc Olahs, and White Olahs in Asia, but it haven't been used for this time Indo-European people, since the white/black designation were by horse-"nomadic" people.Check more, baby and present DECISIVE evidence if you can.
@gogoasacenusie I don't gather information of national websites. I try to access all written documents and just having a consequence. If you could resolve the Kézai - runic wiring paradoxon, that will lead us further. And remember: debate and corercting mistakes are not trolling, only for people who don't want to hear anything else, just their fixa idea.
A long time ago I wanted to stop this conversations, this as well not a reply just a comment put here. I was always on the side of frienship, but if it is one-sided, has not much result. Hungary and Romania are be able to make a deal and unite for common goals, but if you really want stop this, so I will spare you about the details.
@AirForceRO02 inteleg ca sfintele jeguri(propaganda voastra), care va indoctrinat bunicii si parintii, v-a transformat si pe multi dintre voi in labagii
@ppnvrd Even Constatinos Prhorphyrogenetos writes,the tribe they call that time(only as an exonym,never used by Magyars to designate themselves)Turks, their real name was"Sabartoe-Asphaloi"in Greek phonetics.This means: Sabirs/Subarians from the lower Caucasus.Suxx!The Balkan culture and countries have many many similarities,it can be felt from the first time, and these can be seen from Romania to Turkey, but not in Hungary.Don't use words if you don't know their meaning.
@ppnvrd your mentality is just like how Turks bust Kurds and Armenians, radical, islamic, coran-type, no common sense or culture, just aggressivity, not surprising your manele country not only geographically are near to Turkey...(nut surprised as well why you force this "Turk" nonsense, still shows your inverted-schizo). Iros a vuestra puta casa vlach imputit!
@sghxcy we've never called ourself vlachs, even everybody called us like this. alike bizantines used to call magyars as turks. sad truth, laba trista? do you want sources? manele arosed after 1990, at the beggining as bulgaro-serbian music. still they are not turks like magyars
@ppnvrd That's why I call you Vlach, bastard! Yes they began with calling us Scythian, then Huns, and yes a few times Turks, this is only the mistakes of the some Greek/Roman sources, because they designate soemtimes with the same name many different tribes, however, they don't even understand the language and creating sometimes fantasy names like Thyssagetae, etc. If you make a clear reseach, you are able to make order in the mess! Romania is harrassing it's minorities like Turkey do.
@sghxcy "That's why I call you Vlach, bastard!" I see, turkik complex and envy! don't waste your energy with phantasies, jerk. You are turkik, accept this! Balkan culture is a mixing of different people. yes, you lost many from original traits, because austrians imposed over, and you take it like yours. but you still have some traits, like unlogical way of thinking, phanatism, etc
@ppnvrd Envy?XDFor what??:)I call you Vlach,because I am not Romanian:)(EXONYM:)) What you write again, is the old Romanian complex,"accuse..."If you want see Turkic complex,watch the mirror.We are the more similar to Huns at once,as most of the people know and call us,and you can forget the Finno-Ugric/Turk jokes forever.Austrians could never Indo-Europize us,that's why they gave up in 1867.Hungary resisted and rejected and stopped Turks, this is our heritage,even if you don't like it.
@sghxcy "Hungary resisted and rejected and stopped Turks, this is our heritage,even if you don't like it." we have absolutely no reasons to envy hungary-it is all I say! if you want to know why, learn hungarian, and romanian history. meanwhile no source called us turks, like magyars were. and I doubt romania will have more time, hence, a hochei team, in these conditions
@ppnvrd Maybe you misunderstood more things,it's somehow funny,as you ask me to learn history,although you are the who need to meet with clear historical interpretation.If you want,we can add and and publish it,however,it's a phenomenon today, how others see you.Your wordage is also confusing,since you use simultaneously the"Turk"/"Turkic" designation,although none of them are valid to Magyars neither today,nor the old time.Constantions indicated the reality,beyond the mistakes.
@sghxcy I haven't meant the history from magyar holly scripture garbage. It is imposible for a healthy mind to asimilate it. I've mean real history you can find even on wikipedia. We have no reason to envy you because your "glory" against turks, because our victories against them were greater. On the other hand, we were never under turkish administration like you: no turkish institutions, never speaking you had lingvistic afiliations while you were pashalak 150 years
@ppnvrd Wikipedia does not reflect the truth. However, if we accept it announces mostly the official historical theories, you can see Hungarians are not even considered as Turkic people :) Never under Turkish administration? :D just a few hundred years of Ottoman suzerainty :) Only the middle part of Hungary fell in Turkish hand. Which battles you consider greater? If Hungary won't push them down, you could not be able to finish the job...
@sghxcy "Which battles you consider greater? If Hungary won't push them down, you could not be able to finish the job..." this is a clear example of falalcious argument(ambiguous assertion). Battle of vaslui, battle of Baia(ahahahah!), battle of rovine, battle of posada(ahahah), battle of calugareni, night attack...could you describe your role in this(except baia and posada, of course-ahahahah!)
@ppnvrd Battle of Posada??No relation to Turks.Noone denied your role as well stopping and fighting against the Turks,I just emphasized why is it bullshit to state any kind of similarity.However,the Western history writing evaluates the cutting edge of Hungary's contribution since She with her allies also organized battles haven't reached their territory,and even by stooping them entering the West.Moldavia and Wallachia contributed also before and as well after the withdrawal.
@sghxcy , you aren't Turkic people. You are mostly Slavs, easy to see on the genetic map of Europe. R1a huge 32.5%. The turanic waves which also gave the name of your country collected local people which formed the Hungarian people. Those people include mosly Slavs but also Germans, Vlachs and to some degree Cumans. The magyar rulling class is low in the ethnogenesis of Hungarians. Everything is easy to see on Eupedia at the genetical map of Europe. I suggest you start learning your true history
@gogoasacenusie Stop agitprop. Slav genetics, as well Indo-European genetics not exist. Both are language families. Indo-Europeans corrupt history since the romantic natoinal awakenings from the 18-19th century. Yes, in Hungary many nation contacted, mixed, but the r1a1 is not the so-called Indo-European gene, as you want it to identify, and are approx 60%.
@sghxcy , and i repeat again learn history. You don't have not even basic knowledge. No "confussion" anywhere, since "Blaks" are mentioned even in Oguzname ( the oldest Turk chronicle ) as being Latin and Christian. The Vlachs are mentioned north of Danube in tones of chronicles - See Gesta, Kezai, Oguzname, Nestor's chronicle, Descriptio Europae Orientalis. It's even archeologically confirmed as Gelu's fortress exists at Dabaca country. So pls take your head of your ass. Have fun troll.
@gogoasacenusieYou have no decisive evidence,primi boy,since there as many controversions pro and contra.The runic writing codifies an agglutinative, non-Indo-European language, the Magyar and relative languages. Kézai writes the Szeklers gathered them from the Olahs, although it's impossible, thus: Kézai mistaken something, other those mistaken who consider Blaci as Valchs. This designation were also used many times for many meaning, even for Turkic people (white/black Olahs).
@ppnvrd unlogical way of thinkig = see your comments and the Daco-Roman theory ,and all historical slips, cheats and manipulations. Phanatism: in a Romania-Hungary football match you can't hear the Hungarian natinal anthem in Bucharest, but by Hungary-Romania, you can hear clearly the Romanian national anthem in Budapest. This is culture and respect. Prepare you'll hear the Szekler National Anthem every time your national hockey team plays. Forza Ice Hockey Romania!
Inteleg ca ungurul sau secuiul nu poate sa cante din toti plamanii si cu mana la inima "Desteapta-te romane !" , asta nu inseamna ca trebuie sa-l huiduiti si sa-l luati in batjocura cand il auziti .
In Romania de exemplu sunt foarte multi unguri care sunt prosperi si o duc bine , le-a pus cineva bete in roate ?!?
Cat despre politicieni corupti , ungurii vorbesc de parca n-au reprezentanti la fel de suspecti ca ai nostrii ...
Secuii se defileaza pe 15 martie cu mesaje anti-romanesti , se mira de ce primesc raspuns pe 1 decembrie . Se izoleaza de restul lumii , de buna voie , si dup-aia dau vina pe romani ca sunt printre cele mai sarace zone si ca nu are nimeni habar ce se intampla acolo . V-o faceti cu mana voastra , nu va opreste nimeni sa traiti mai bine si sa va aratati cultura si traditiile .
Aveti o atitudine si o politica anti-sociala si asta va face numai rau si nu va opreste nimeni sa va comportati astfel .
daca tragem gard si va dam autonomie,independenta tot ce vreti voi maghiarii in juma de an muriti de foame,nu vedeti ca harghita si covasna sunt cele mai sarace judete din romania si ne trag p toti in jos.singuri sunteti k si morti depindeti de noi romanii.oricum forza romania suntem peste ungaria la toate capitolele m,mai ales la inteligenta,si asta am demonstrato in nenumarate rinduri.
@liviu1990bute "daca tragem gard si va dam autonomie,independenta tot ce vreti voi maghiarii in juma de an muriti de foame..."
ungurii din romania sunt in topul minoritatilor din europa privind drepturile. nu ar fi sfarsitul lumii daca ar avea autonomie, dar trebuie privit in ansamblul european. exista o chestiune care nu o prea spune nimeni, dar cat se poate de reala: romania deja si-a castigat multe antipatii tocmai fiindca a dat prea multe drepturi ubgurilor
@liviu1990bute tari ca franta, grecia, nici nu recunosc termenul de minoritate nationala. altele ca ucraina, slovacia, ungaria, serbia... sunt mult in urma romaniei. pentru ei, descrierea corecta a situatiei ungurilor din romania este extrem de incomoda. obtinerea autonomiei secuilor nici n-ar fi de ajuns(ar fi si mai problematica): numai deplina independenta ar rezolva situatia. atunci s-ar spune: asta e situatia, romanii i-au persecutat, bla-bla.
Ugyan hagyjuk már! Ezekkel az oláh kecskebaszókkal nem lehet emberi nyelven értekezni. Folyton csak a maguk primitívségeit hajtogatják és ezek hiszik magukat rómaiaknak, holott a romákhoz több közük van. Amúgy meg Cozma magyar csapatban játszott, és senki se kérte tőle, hogy a magyar himnuszt énekelje.
Morti vostri de bozgori jegosi! ATENȚIE CA VENIM PESTE VOI! You fucking bozgors! Pay ATENTION, WE COMING AFTER YOU!! ROMANIAAAAAAAA ROMANIAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Then, after helenistic period and hunic invassion, this populations mixed with mongoloid populations giving birth to turanic race. Only after, tribes like avars, magyars, pechenegs, turks....appeared. Anyway, the remaints of the scytho-sarmathians in east Europe rather contributed to the ethnogenesis of the slavs, than to original magyars. Of course, probably in their way to Panonia, probably original magyars mixed with some scytho-sarmathians.
@ppnvrd However,Indo-Europeans deny an existence of a turanid race,but altered many nations as"Mongols","Turks",who weren"t originally Mongol(oid).Many Mongol(oid) (yellow) people joined the Caucasian tribes, but it would not mean they were originally yellow. This makes the confusion as well. Sarmatians (as I said) are half Indo-Iranian, but the original Scythian element not. Hungarians are mostly from Sabir tribes, only the onogur element could contain something you would call "Turkic".
Everybody knows (except the victims of their propaganda), that when we say about indo-iranian-europeans ancient population, we say about the original caucasoid populations, from 2000 BC. Then, in central Asia, were no other populations than caucasoids. After the rise of the persian empire(1 milenium BC), this population was intensively mixed with mediteranean and semitic populations brought by persian administration.
@ppnvrd These original Caucasian population is the Non-Indo-European, Non-Semitic population speaking agglutinative languages in Europe to the Mesopotamia area, long before 2000 BC. (Sumerians, Mitanni, Kassites, Urartu, Assa-ur, Etruscs, Basques, Celtic tribes, etc.) Strabo: Persians are from the Scythians and the Medes. Thus the real Indo-Iranian/European population are from partly the people mentioned above mixed with Nordic elements having non-agglutinative language.
and to other side to re-invent the definition and history of turanians(linking them from archaic branches). So, they deny indo-europeans means caucasoids. Also, they deny scythians, iranians belong to indo-european branch, and are the precursors of turkik populations. They base in the ignorance of the readers of their bullshit stattements
@ppnvrd Totally the opposite is true, Indo-Europeans are reinventing history, their authors inthe ancient times clearly described the enthical and linguistical, cultural difference of the nation they corrupted later. Indo-Europeans are from the Nordic and the Caucasian (non-Indo-European, non-Semitic) substratum, it would be better a language family than racial classification. Today Turks are totally diferent as they were, you were told why.
for those unfamiliarised with hungarians problem: they face a double dilema- one, a crise of identity, since they look now like caucasoids(indo-europeans), but know magyars were recorded as turkik, second is a complex, as they know that turkik populations appeared just near the christ era. so, their nationalist historians try, one side, to re-invent the definition of indo-europeans(no conection with physical features-just an ethnic branch),
@ppnvrd No, of course not, Hungarians were Caucasian at their conquest as well. The newwst problem is of the some ignorant Western authors, who are inventing fantasy names and bad classification of nations, sometimes they call everybody coming from the east Scythians, then Huns, then Turks, they ivent fantasy names like Thyssagetae, etc.
@ppnvrd The video does not really proove anything, since Sarmatians have a half Indo-Iranian origin, but Scythians are different. The mistakes of the Roman/Greek authors calling everything Scythian coming from the made much mistakes lately, these also recognized by contemporary authors. That's why some Indo-European tribes contacted with the Scythians were mistaken to be originally Scythian.
pentru mine ca roman, fi nationalist inseamna ati iubi tara in care te-ai nascut si tara in care traesti , dar bozgoroii astia au mers prea departe , asa ca tre eutanasiati ca caini.........
despre nivelu de trai, autoritati sa-u legislatie e doar problema noastra.
@ppnvrd I know some Romanians can't loose...they feel themselves ashamed of their defeat. However, it's not mainly your shame, your fault. Those are guilty, who planted silly theories in your heads and they measure your obedience to your country how far you will get away to defend impossible theories. Sad :(
@ppnvrd Still pretending instead of facing your heavy loose...however, haven't expected anything else from you. You have failed to prove anything that's all. It's not my fault. Facto sunt facto.
But the fact is the latins imposed their language over other highlanders than albanians, and adopted their life-style. The homogenity of the language was assured by permanent overpopulation migrationist behaviour, in highland zones from Greece to northern ridge of Carpathians
@ppnvrd I disagree, evidence shows everything ends at the Danube. The most Northern area Olahs reached was Oláhdubova/Valaská Dubova (today in Slovakia), but they settled to the other side (Morva) of the Carpathians, but this happened only the XIII. century...
Both albanians and vlachs were once people of highlanders. The level of latinisation of albanian is probable the level of dacian(not daco-roman) at 275. Then, in many stages, the latin population(including daco-romans) from cities was relegated by slavs, avars, gepids..., and took refuge in highlands. Posible latins didn't chose nowday Albania. Posible the highlanders rejected them, fearing for concurence over living sources.
I have nothing against albanian believe they are illyrians- it is quite posible. But I ask myself how the hell an important illyrian population remained unlatinised, considering Illyria was the first province romanised, and intensely urbanised? And how comes albanian contain an important lexic of germanic words, some common with romanian. Is not more probably they come from a daco-panonian population, in contact with gepids?
@ppnvrd If you mind a Daco-Roman elemnt would migrate to the south, I heard such theories, but then Vlachs could not claim their ethnogenesis in Transilvania/Moldavia. Then we can ask also the old question...Why is missing Gepids/Germans influence on your language?
@sghxcy yes, the dacian, carpian element is well documented after 275, you just refuse to take anything else than kindergarden texts as evidence. Germanic elements in our language doesn't missing, it is just your holly scripture teached you.
@ppnvrd In fact, you were unable to disprove the primary sources and evidence making the Daco-Roman theory impossible. Not I am your enemy, truth and evidence is your enemy. So long you can't prove your point or disprove the primary sources/evidence, you're just wasting your time. You have elementary imperfection about ancient history as well.
Maybe there were not many daco-romans in Transylvania in 350, but for sure were lot of them in south Danube(or you could call them daco-thraco-illyrians). And for sure remained lot of dacians in Transylvania, Moldavia, Muntenia
It is nothing bad in having illyrian roots, but is much more less probable than dacian ones. Romanians can't lie themselves with weird ideeas like "once ethnogenesis complete, vlachs started to fuck like rabbits, and thus they came to dominate other nations..."
@ppnvrd I don't agree. Facts, primary sources, evidence show totally the opposite. In Transilvania, Moldavia any possible Daco-Roman element were TOTALLY absent, even in Wallachia it is really enqestionable. All documents proving the ethnogenesis of the South-Balkan.
having a theory about origins, is very important for national cohession of every people. So, of the clear sources miss, the people have to work for a theory. Some people have more cohesive theory, some less. The daco-roman continuity was a good theory for its times, considering the means they had. Some ideeas are still valid and valuable.
@ppnvrd Yes, and this "national cohesion" and thus hatred towards other nation this theories offend have a huge political benefit, the leader can move almost all people of his nation to unite fro a common goal. In such a concept the Daco-Roman theory is very succesful, since Romania endoubled it's territory and earned huge benefits. The problem is, the myth is not true, just business...
so, isted to deal about FACTS propagated in your miserable nationalist, antiromanian writted works, better you should start to learn real history, starting with primary sources
@ppnvrd Sorry,I know mostly all sources and theories widespread all sides.You should not generalize my statements,even if you met with them by well-known theories.I have met with many propaganda,and real history as well, however,every author can distort its interpretation to it's own favor,but evidence cannot be hindered(just one author don't even mention it)That's why you have to be open.Believe me propaganda has no effect on me,carefully checked everything. Prove me wrong if you can!
"Bad logic", "shamy loss", "primitive designations". These are kind of big words coming from someone who considers unreliable Britannica Encyclopedia or the US Library of Congress and in the same time can't backup not a single statement he says. I truly enjoy the perseverance, unfortunately for you, and the trolls of your kind, nobody actually cares outside Hungary. And it must piss you off sooo bad buddy.
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusieYour behavior is well-known,a Romanian who choose impossible myths to believe but every time loose when decisive,contemporary evidence should be shown.Those who could be mislead with controlled contented citations,are proving their poverty.Real science is about facts,you can prove.Reality and facts does not really depend on who cares or not(see concrete mathematics).You are a bad looser,as everyone can see(and never forget, Andorra is in Europe :)bye, primitivus!
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , i feel sorry you have a personal problem with me and if you actually think you are debating or having a contest or something. You don't even a basic knowledge of your own history and you don't even care about history of Hungary or Romania, you're just here to troll. By the way, it's great you know that Andorra is in Europe and shared this information with me. Soon, thanks to your 15 years of deep historical studies, you'll be able to find your own country on the map too. Have fun buddy
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Just accuse me about what you do,about trolling,personal problems,although this is all of your kind.You even want to borrow other's history.Information about Andorra is worthy to you,who's fixa idea is the U.S. and Anglo-Saxon sources,although the facts and contemporary docs were still present when the U.S. were not even foundedXDI have beaten you anytime,anywhere regarding HUN or ROM history.Try to do something else like making mess,because facts deeply hurt you.
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy I'm not going to ask you how could you live with such logic, because s obvious you do. But I beg you to satisfy my curiosity to tell me how kids shout you on the street?
ppnvrd 1 week ago
@ppnvrd You should not sink to Gogo's level.Made again a provocative question.If the professional logic based on empirical and research facts,the method our worlds advanced science are based on,etc.bothers you I should ask the question:how long will such people think in the 21th century,that they can achieve anything with lies,deceptions and childish behavior?Every cultivated/educated people can immediately see the problems Others/I pinpointed.(I don't shout kids in the streets,missed!)
sghxcy 1 week ago
@ppnvrd However, in a population approx. only 2% is culture-creative, means they have 130 IQ or more. Youtube is not a perfect place to debate, but there are places where a higher Romanian intelligentsia exist but also have it's boundaries many times (see Wiki). Of course average people not always born to a mathematician, thus they don't know and cannot apply the rules of fair arguing and fair inference and proving methods. The 2% lives with your "unwanted" logic, pfffffffff!
sghxcy 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Just to make everyone see how a bad looser like make much more awful lies at the end:"can't back up not a single statement he say's"It's you,you have done it many time,all you can do is to copypaste some citations having an assumption without proof.I have all sources and all original documents,you could also research,if you you'd be not so stupid to find them,but we know you don't even want to know about them, because your imaginary world would be collapsed...Poor
sghxcy 1 week ago
Unlike the neighbors, all the important religious terms entered Romanian language via vulgar Latin. Even the Greek terms...it logically means that proto-romanians were converted to Christianity in the Latin language. Later the Bulgarian Slavs brought the old church Slavonic.This Slavic presence also implies it was a big buffer area between Romanians and Greeks. Thing which is more than proven scientifically with the help of the so-called "Jireček Line"...
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Bad logic, a typical slip of the Romanian history writing. Your imaginary "proto-Romanians" never converted to Christianity, and always protested later any kind such attempt (although they announce themselves the real successor of Rome). In the times of Reformation, when the first religious works appear in Romananian, they are full with Slavic and Hungarian "barbarisms". The times were the latin are flourishing in Europe, you're life is full Slavic...
sghxcy 1 week ago
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@sghxcy , "You should spare you primitive designations about who knows what or so, or age since, you suffered a shamy loss regarding many things (see black olahs, etc)."
I like your arrogance. But you still can't write not even a single link regarding anything you say.
"The only problem is these people migrated from the south to the territory today they live"
Great, one little problem. There isn't, officially, not even a single historical chronicle mentioning it.
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
Sghxcy, you know, i was reading your profile. Among the rich sources of information posted on your channel to prove your point i've stumbled over these 2:
"About me: ONLY TRUE HISTORY"
"Only those maintain censorship who are afraid of the Truth"
I know realize you actually are a sincere person. In this completely wacko tornado of ideas you have in your head, you actually believe what you say. These notions you describe here are very seriously worth a movie.
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Don't worry, wil make videos, if I'd have enough time, but many works and data are awaiting me about Romania and Romanians, so I will first analyze these sources. Don't expect rich sources on my profile, their place belong somewhere else. Try to meet with other evaluations, not only those who are pushing all the same.
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , Bonfini, 14th century, greatest Italian humanist:
"Because the Romanians are descendants of the Romans, a fact that even today is attested by their language, a language that, even though they are surrounded by diverse barbarian peoples, could not be destroyed.... even if all kinds of barbarian attacks flooded over the province of Dacia and the Roman people, we can see that the Roman colonies and legions that had been established there could not be annihilated"
14th century...
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie I know Bonfini's works,not surprising an Italian humanist regognizing people speaking a Romance language.However,he just only indicating people survived speaking vulgar latin, so what?They could not be annihilated,so what?The only problem is these people migrated from the south to the territory today they live, and Bonfini can't prove the direct continuity of the legions possibly survived there,but can write romantic assumptions.
sghxcy 1 week ago
The main idea which i repeat is that there is no such thing as a pure people. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. As the time passed, different groups of people have been assimilated. Religion also played ( and unfortunately still plays...) a major role in history and who has ears to listen and brains to understand, will know its tremendous role played in this entire area. You have to see the big picture and then progress to the smaller details...
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Yes, agree, se todays Europe, where everything is corrupted to Indo-European although it doesn not equal with the white or caucasian race, only it means Nordic=Aryan in reality But if you see Germany, there's the imganinary border between Nordic blond people and the South-German dominantly with brown charachteristics. Bayer=(Bój+avar)=Celtic+avar mix. Whole Europe is a mix of Celts, Huns, Avars, Aryans, Mediterraneans, ancient Caucasians, Sarmatians, etc.
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , "The Romanian element became dominant in the two Voivodeships after 1622"
Ha, what?! *Jaw drop
"But you are at first Italians/Illyrians/Greeks/Slavs."
Again, WHAT?
"But the in Wallachia, Moldavia the folks had zero Dacian conscience or so."
You should come and see them live.
"Don't worry I even needed 15 years at minima to have my current views"
Are you sure there are no 15 years since you were born?
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Gogo, until 1622 you had a Slavic administration. If you are Roman and Dacian, why you use foreign language, toponyms? Why have your church and old-Slavic language? Why were you designated to the Ochrida Church district? Do you know Panaitescu',s A.D. Xenopols or Onciuls evaluation? You are the mix of this nations, mentioned above, but finally the Rumun, neo-latin language and consicence won, that's all. Meet history, unleashed!
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , you obviously have no clue about your own history so talking about others' history is a joke. Sghxcy, the Slavonic and the Greek language were the only languages used in Ortodoxy, otherwise it was a heresy. It's the same with Hungary which used Latin which was the only language used by Catholics. But here comes the funny thing, my dear friend, the people used in day by day Romanian language ask all the Italian humanists even from the 14th century, including Bonfini who testifies for it
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie You should spare you primitive designations about who knows what or so, or age since, you suffered a shamy loss regarding many things (see black olahs, etc.) You can always accuse, but what you write about me is true about you. In the Orthodox church everyone had the right to use it's own language, unlike Catholic-Latin that time. Never denied they plebs speak rumun mostly, but the fact they most never used it even by toponyms, show us their roots.
sghxcy 1 week ago
Also the specific horn used by shepherds called "Bucium"....or the ancient waistbands called by Dacians Bracina and by romanians as bracinari...the similarities are so numerous only blind people refuse to see them. Folk is the core of a civilization buddy. And the Dacian folk elements are still alive in Romanians. There are also big Slavic influences and even ancient Roman fests like the Martisor....That along Cuman influence ( places Comana, Comanesti, Teleorman etc )...
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie The Romanian element became dominant in the two Voivodeships after 1622. So long Greeks, Ismaeltie Bulgarians, Slavs, Ruthenians, Cumans, and Rumuns gave the population. It is normal that successor nations always inherit elements of other's culture, but this Dacians thing is a little bit pushy, chasing a great myth. In the South, with so many influences, many things are possible, but you are at first Italians/Illyrians/Greeks/Slavs.
sghxcy 1 week ago
- Clothes - identical to the ones depicted on Trajan's Column. I've actually seen the Column with my own eyes. Look at the specific shoes - "opinci", the trousers "itari", the embroderies with the amazing patterns kept for literally thousands of years ( look at the featured vid on my channel for this)
- Dances - take for example "Calusari dance". It's under Unesco heritage and it survived for milleniums as it's still practiced!
- The specific Dacian mountain house construction
etc etc
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie I can tell the same, it is possible, of course Dacia has affected it's environment, but Romans and Dacians were deadly enemies a different ethno-linguistic group. I am only against fringe theories and myths because of political purpose, local customs could inheirted in the Dacia Aureliana, etc. But the in Wallachia, Moldavia the folks had zero Dacian conscience or so.
sghxcy 1 week ago
Get out from Ardeal, you folthy migrators. In fact, get out from Europe,you are the only asiatic tribe who has nothing european. I forgot, turks too !
spizaetus 2 weeks ago
Libraries? How about this one - the US Library of Congress:
"Romanians descend from the Dacians, an ancient people who fell under Rome's dominance in the first century A.D., intermarried with Roman colonists, and adopted elements of Roman culture, including a Vulgar Latin that evolved into today's Romanian.
Source: memory(.)loc(.)gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+ro0011)
You little hamster.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusieThe one is the hamster who tries to rape the same bullshit again and again expecting a different answer.You repeat all agiprop your kinf did.This"U.S. library"a well-know rhetoric of yours.And if the Congress library would state that yellow bats are falling from the sky and Austria is famous from Kangaroos,than it is true?Has the library the J.F. Montgomery: Hungary,The unwilling sattelite?Just having a book in a library has no value, only the PROOF(that not exist)
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , aha. So by far, The US Library of Congress and Britannica Encyclopedia are not credible sources. I'm starting to think there's a whole conspiracy against Hungary. Basically it's at a planetary level...hmm...you know who to blame right? The Jews and the Illuminati.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusieIt is well known and there are many works and debate about the altered history writing,beginning with nationalistic romantic era of the 19th cent,continuing after the two world wars,after the so-called Anglo-Saxon type history writing and it's citations are dominating.This is a phenomemon,with many distractions and not only Hungarians recognized this.Plenty of examples that educated people can't eat since counter-proof exist.Only facts counts,nothing else.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , dude. In case you haven't figured it out by now, Hungary is a small country. Romania is also a small country. Neither Romania nor Hungary would present ANY interest for planetary conspiracies. The problem here is the ego of some people including yourself. Do yourself a favor, stop dreaming and start living.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie It would be easy to end so,ain't it?My ego never exeeded those who has only one reality,like some extremist Romanian propagandist who have never met an objective evaluation and judges everything against their dogmas as an untruthful evil-aimed attack.I will study and have more information on the topic,will never tolerate propagating historical deceptions.You speak about conspiracy,but I speak about reality.Grow up, world is not so perfect as you might think.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , well, it's not a perfect world, you're damn right about that, but at least i don't invent myself another reality just to cure my inferiority complexes like you do. I'm not the one considering Britannica Encyclopedia or the US Library of Congress as unreliable sources so i suggest you follow your own advice you've just written buddy. There is no conspiracy but another phenomenon happening here.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Oh, not we have the inferiority complex, those nations with new countries who have to sustain anti-Hungarianism as the assurance of their territorial integrity and thus keeping romantic myths alive, to say nothing about extremism playing the Hungarian card can earn additive 20% in the elections. Oh Yes U.S. is reliable, who officialy thought Andorra is in Africa, and the state official claimed why noone told us it is an European country :D VERY RELIABLE XD
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , so, you see, the worse a socio-economical situation gets in a country the bigger the extremist movements grow. It's a directly proportional equation. Generally speaking poor people are very susceptible to charismatic leaders rising and promising all sorts of things and appealing to "national consciousness". It's a simple explanation. They are trying to fulfill the primordial level on Maslow's hierarchy - the basic needs for survival. And they'll do anything for that, including war.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Yes,it has direct connection to the actual life conditions.In a country where a standard of living is good,extremism can't really arise.My duty has no connection to that,I hate those who support propaganda and deceptions unconditionally and distribute untruthful hatred.My goal is peace.Fortunately I could contact Romanians who met with the sources and they knew much more original primary source for Black-Olah than I, unlike you.Remember this before you accuse!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , ",I hate those who support propaganda and deceptions unconditionally and distribute untruthful hatred"
Great, me too. Look buddy, about the "romantic myths", often disguised in protochronism. There is no such thing as a pure people anywhere on the planet. Romanian ethnogenesis consists of Dacians, Romans, Slavs, Cumans, Magyars. Romanians didn't originate in south Balkans, not only because there is no historical backup but also look at how low is E1B1B Balkanic marker on Eupedia
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Buddy, Romanian ethnogenesis is made by Italians, Greeks, Illyrians, Bulgarians, Slavs, Ruthenians mostly, Dacian element could only appear if some Dacians migrated to the south, some historians claim about that. Today's Eumarkers can't be accepted phrotochronistically, I haven't said you have balkanic dna or so, as if some Italians would migrate to Ethiopia, that would not change their genetic marker, or vica versa....
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , you know...i actually have a friend which is exactly the same typology like you are. No matter what me or others tell him, even if it's true or false, he always has something to say in contradiction or objection. Basically even if i tell him that 2+2=4, he will find something to object to that too. Just for the sake of objection. His contributions are 99% of the time irrelevant and futile and he ends up being a clown. Try not to be like that.
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Man, I might be look like those who have never met with well-known historical deceptions, but only well-accepted encyclopedia. Don't worry I even needed 15 years at minima to have my current views, I haven't sucked it from my thumb. Just check the oldest primary Roman, Greek chronicles, or Indo-European history writing, then check the alteration made in the 18th-19th cent. I'm glad since as many Indo-European sources prove my point as many claims the opposite.
sghxcy 1 week ago
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@sghxcy , " Just check the oldest primary Roman, Greek chronicles, or Indo-European history writing, then check the alteration made in the 18th-19th cent"
Where do you see alterations and what chronicles are you talking about? Concrete please.
"Noone debated it is possible in the south, but not above the Danube that time"
You're contradicted by about 10 chronicles, including Hungarian chronicles and archaeology.
Continuation....
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@sghxcy , you know how easily can be shown that Dacians are part of Romanians? Do you know about the Strategikon of Kekaumenos? It was written by this Byzantine general in about the 11th century. He writes also about the Vlahs from south ( the branches of Romanians ). He calls them directly "Dacians and Bessi". Even more, do you that Romanians have also many folk elements like clothes or even dances kept from the Dacians? But again, Dacians are only a component of Romanian ethnogenesis
gogoasacenusie 1 week ago
@gogoasacenusie Noone debated it is possible in the south, but not above the Danube that time
sghxcy 1 week ago
@sghxcy , this is the official genetical map of Europe for every country:
eupedia(.)com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups(.)shtml
Take a look at the E1B1B Balkanic genetical haplogroup percentage:
Romania: 9
Bulgaria: 22
Albania: 27.5
Hungary: 9.5
Romanians do not originate anywhere in south Balkans. The whole area is genetically a melting pot. The main element which connects us all are the Slavs. Hungary has a huge percentage of Slavic marker - 32.5%.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie I haven't spoken about genetic continuity,but if you check the language heritage,the way of migrations,culture and historical facts,documents you can easily chase the way of the Italian settlers from Apulia to Ochrida,and their way to Moesia,etc.Slavic genetics or markers not exist,it is only a language family.Hungarians have R1A1(30%-60%), that is"Eurasian steppe-gene",but of course the Indo-Europeans corrupted this as well to Indo-Iranian,as well the Scythians.
sghxcy 1 week ago
Upsie, i found it. Let's see:
.......Between the 10th and 14th centuries new political formations emerged in the Carpathian-Danube region. The Hungarians, who had settled in Pannonia at the end of the 9th century and who entered Dacia in the 10th century, overwhelmed the Slavic-Romanian duchies, or voivodates, that they encountered there."
Britannica Encyclopedia
britannica(.)com/EBchecked/topic/508461/Romania/42864/Romanians-and-Hungarians
That's how a link looks like. Hamster.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Poor result, since everybody just 2 seconds can access info by hitting "kara ulagh wiki", maybe you're the only who can't since weeks :D What you have found is a falsified EncycLIEpedia Britannica citation that has zero value, since the statement can't be prooved, and how many biassed info it has (WWII), etc. Secondary source only with proof can be acceptable, contemporary primary sources has value.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , yes, i know Encyclopedia Britannica, the biggest encyclopedia of the planet, is false. "Sghxcy" from youtube is right. Wait. Ahahahahahahahah
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Just a collection of citations has no real value, as wikipedia as well does not reflect the truth (as it openly announces it). You can add everything, if there's someone inthe earth published it, regardless it can be prooved or not. Britannica has editors, and they decide what citations will take place. Unfortunately it contains mostly the Romanian point of view, that's all. Even Americans recognized Britannicas serious imbalance.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
Barack Obama is Chinese! Anyone who says otherwise is wrong because his skin is actually a deep yellow and he had slender eyes but he made an aesthetic surgery! You have to believe me because i said so!
Your truly sincere,
Sghxcy from Youtube
PS: Don't forget to subscribe and i'll also teach you cool Latin phrases! Like "Facto sunt Facto"!
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Thank You revealing the youtube community how a deeply ignorant bastard, average Romanian can behave every time he loose. Don't expect only you and me reading our lines, you make the worse propaganda to your country, intelligent Romanians worrying about you. Meet you half year later, you'll get pretty much help where to start your own research, you've got plenty authors. Don't piss against wind, better start to work! La revedere!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
Ok. Put the sources here with links.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie People like you can only troll, demand and ask, but never prove or show something. You're not my boss or judge, your knowledge are seriously inbalanced so you'd better start to develop your objectivity. Did you know about Rubriquis, Baco and Abulghazi calling Volga-Bulgarians as "olah"? Or Pachymeres calling nomadic-Turk nation as "olah"? If not, start to learn history and come back a half year later when you have the SUFFICIENT knowledge to debate! IGNORAMUS!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , " I won't give you everything in your mouth, make an own research if you consider yourself so good bastard!"
Aha! So that's the reason. You little hamster.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Yes dirty jackal, that's the reason, if you would not have such a primitve and awful behavior, you'd directly get the page numbers, but your kind is one of the deepest. You have to confess and work! (Don't worry, members of the Wikiproject Romania will surely tell you where from they inserted the persian source for black-olahs, but I have a surely different source. The PRIMARY SOURCE is all the same, barbie. Get lost!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , wow i'm deeply impressed. But still i can't see any links. And you're still a hamster.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie It's you problem that you're incapable to make an effective and valuable research. Biassed citations can be found easily by every dumbhead. Work on the links, gogo, google is your friend, ain't it? Won't give anything your mouth, like you awfully did about obama I would never say. But better visit libraries, national archives, not just the internet. First work, got the evidence, than make argumentation, nothing else possible!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@MrRazyf oh, I got it now, I used ggl translate. It doesn't matter mate, we are all europeans, who will care in 300 years what land is whom?
jaggguar 3 weeks ago
@MrRazyf mate, I don't understand hungarian...that's why I wrote in english language.
jaggguar 3 weeks ago
BAG PULA IN TOTI UNGURII PIZDII MASII BOZGORII PULIII FUTA-VA IROD SI CINE V-O FACUT ,,,CRED CA SUNTETI O NATIE DE INCULTI SI DE NESPALATI SPER CA INTR-O ZI SA SE CARE TOTI UNGURII DIN ROMAINA!!!
pkwolfpk 1 month ago
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AntiSovinism 2 weeks ago
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AntiSovinism 2 weeks ago
Lesz meg valtozas a jovoben, en hiszek benne, mert az igazsag gyoz mindig es az igazsag a mi oldalunkon all!
Lesz meg! Lesz meg!
Vesszem trianon!!!
Teknorg 1 month ago 2
Constantinos Porphy De adm. imp. 42.->Black-Bulgarland, later the Greeks use->Black-Olahland.Serbians used for Wallachia->Black-Vlachland "czrni arapi". (Mauro-Vlach). Fazel-ullah-Rasid Persian historian: Kara-Ulagh. And Before you make scandal again, I'tell you now: Hasdeu also known this works, but he wanted to force this should be meaning Black-Rumun, although it is impossible, since horse-nomadic nations used the black-white designations.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , 1. use reply, don't be a pussy 2. Read what you've written and try not to laugh.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Lady Gogo, you've mistaken me with someone else, you were silence weeks ago, I can understand because you were fully ashamed and beaten. Facto sunt facto. The designation "olah" has many meaning but you always want to corrupt it to "rumun", although the deception is VISIBLE to every learned people who knows history. If you can't make any valuable contribution, just a nationalistic trolls, you'd better stand down, not to make you much more ridicoulous.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , interesting expression "facto sunt facto". Where did you learn it, at the history lessons, along with the "black olahs"? I admit, i can't make more contribution on the altar of trollness. You're the troll boss.
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie So hard is for you to meet the facts? Hasdeu did, as everybody who know the old documents and archives, it is also known today Romanian historians, but unfortunately the average Romanian NEVER heard from it, but all of the nationalistic propaganda without limit or healthy boundary or objectivity. That is you! Learn history, instead of trolling.
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
@sghxcy , living a parallel reality is a sign of schizophrenia buddy...
gogoasacenusie 2 weeks ago
@gogoasacenusie Fortunately you recognize you great illness. You've given everything you need at your primitive level, much more of that, if you can't find it on your own, that really shows you've met only one sided works and propaganda. Check Byzantine documents, Serbian documents, however I don't trust wiki, but it also knows the persian Quara-Ulagh version. I won't give you everything in your mouth, make an own research if you consider yourself so good bastard!
sghxcy 2 weeks ago
I have to excuse myself once again before you, oh, Sghxcy, Lord of Trolls. I hope you'll accept my apologies and don't punish my "white olah" ass ( no homo ). xD
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie Man, you don't need this. You can solve confusions or not. so long you don'tmake clear Kézai's mistake about the runic wrting, etc. or present any irrefutable proof of continuity, just shut up.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , i don't have any "confusions" except the question whether you're just trolling or deeply uneducated. Who knows? You could be both.
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie The one is uneducated, who speaks about trolling and run away from solving confusions. Evidence talk. If you haven't met with these confusions, you need more education, its so easy!
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , ok. Name the evidence, show me anywhere on planet Earth about these "black olahs"
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
"for Turkic people (white/black Olahs)"
Actually there were white and black CUMANS not "Olahs" xD and the term is geographical and used much later xD. And Blachos is a Greek term as written on your own Hungarian History National website.The Blachs/Vlahs were Christian and Latin according to Oguzname the oldest Turk Chroncle and the term can be correlated easy with the writing from other chronicles like Nestor's primary where he mentions the fights between "Volohs" and Magyars you lil hamster xD
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie Also exists original docuements about white Olahs (and not Cumans, this is an ANOTHER). However, if you mean Christian here as non-Orthodox, these are the minority since the greatest impossibility of the continuity theory not even a religious riun exist, and even Rome haven't known about you, nor Constantinopole above the Danube. The Christian "Olahs" could refer to others as well, however, thanks for the info, although it's not decisive, Lady Gogo.
sghxcy 1 month ago
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@sghxcy , "Also exists original docuements about white Olahs (and not Cumans, this is an ANOTHER)"
Ok, show one.
"I don't gather information of national websites. I try to access all written documents and just having a consequence."
Ah, excuse-moi, i thought you were just trolling. My bad.
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
All these various people have been magyarized. Original magyar people are shown on Chronicum Pictum as being small, yellowish skin and slender eyes. The Szekely people, which are not even Hungarian, have been another Turanic wave, which according to the Hungarian Simon Kezai have been settled in the mountains with Vlachs/Romanians. The conquest of Transylvania is described in Gesta Hungarorum and it even mentions the political structures found there including the of Gelu "duke of Vlachs"
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusieJoke my friend,and you say I should learn history???XD Hungarians has no connection to yellows.Original Magyars were of 4 Sabir tribes and 3 Onogur tribes.Even then their genetic was Caucasian,but because of migration in Asia,some south-Mongoloid markers could be found.That's all.Oh yes,and these "Vlachs" gave us the runic writing, that has no connection to Indo-European languages....this reveals the confusion of Kézai's work. it could mean also the turkic Balaks.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , The joke of the jokes is that the term "Blakhos" is mentioned as referring to Romanians even on Hungarian History national website:
"The Greek word Blakhos, - of Southern Slavic origin, designates Rumanians."
hungarianhistory(.)com/lib/chk/chk05(.)pdf
Have fun troll. I'm out.
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie You run away every time your huge indoctrination is shown? No, I wrote in my last comment, the word Blaci, Vlach, Olah had several meaning, like, sheperd, peasant, Otrhodox, Latin-speaking, mountain people, even used as Blakc Olahs, and White Olahs in Asia, but it haven't been used for this time Indo-European people, since the white/black designation were by horse-"nomadic" people.Check more, baby and present DECISIVE evidence if you can.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , so basically now you deny even your own Hungarian History national website. Your trolling level is huge buddy.
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie I don't gather information of national websites. I try to access all written documents and just having a consequence. If you could resolve the Kézai - runic wiring paradoxon, that will lead us further. And remember: debate and corercting mistakes are not trolling, only for people who don't want to hear anything else, just their fixa idea.
sghxcy 1 month ago
A long time ago I wanted to stop this conversations, this as well not a reply just a comment put here. I was always on the side of frienship, but if it is one-sided, has not much result. Hungary and Romania are be able to make a deal and unite for common goals, but if you really want stop this, so I will spare you about the details.
sghxcy 1 month ago
a brilliant part-Vlach origin Hungarian Governor, the great "Turk-striker". I wish to have such friendly relationship between Hun's and Vlachs.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy finaly! don't say anything more, please! let it down! after all, both of us are sourounded by a "slavic sea". let's think about this!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
of course! you contributed with 4000 szekelies at 40 000 Stefan army at vaslui and....without you we've been not able to finish the job
even the most adulated your victory, at belgrad, was led by a brilliant...vlach general
ppnvrd 1 month ago
Romaniaul isul looserul countryul! Don'tul hurtul usul! Pleaseul!
AirForceRO02 1 month ago
@AirForceRO02 mai informeaza-te
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@AirForceRO02 inteleg ca sfintele jeguri(propaganda voastra), care va indoctrinat bunicii si parintii, v-a transformat si pe multi dintre voi in labagii
ppnvrd 1 month ago
and zes, we called ourself români. do zou think it is something related to romans?
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Even Constatinos Prhorphyrogenetos writes,the tribe they call that time(only as an exonym,never used by Magyars to designate themselves)Turks, their real name was"Sabartoe-Asphaloi"in Greek phonetics.This means: Sabirs/Subarians from the lower Caucasus.Suxx!The Balkan culture and countries have many many similarities,it can be felt from the first time, and these can be seen from Romania to Turkey, but not in Hungary.Don't use words if you don't know their meaning.
sghxcy 1 month ago
Shut up so long you can't present evidence, Woloch.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy ok, then fuck yourself, turk!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd your mentality is just like how Turks bust Kurds and Armenians, radical, islamic, coran-type, no common sense or culture, just aggressivity, not surprising your manele country not only geographically are near to Turkey...(nut surprised as well why you force this "Turk" nonsense, still shows your inverted-schizo). Iros a vuestra puta casa vlach imputit!
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy we've never called ourself vlachs, even everybody called us like this. alike bizantines used to call magyars as turks. sad truth, laba trista? do you want sources? manele arosed after 1990, at the beggining as bulgaro-serbian music. still they are not turks like magyars
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd That's why I call you Vlach, bastard! Yes they began with calling us Scythian, then Huns, and yes a few times Turks, this is only the mistakes of the some Greek/Roman sources, because they designate soemtimes with the same name many different tribes, however, they don't even understand the language and creating sometimes fantasy names like Thyssagetae, etc. If you make a clear reseach, you are able to make order in the mess! Romania is harrassing it's minorities like Turkey do.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy "That's why I call you Vlach, bastard!" I see, turkik complex and envy! don't waste your energy with phantasies, jerk. You are turkik, accept this! Balkan culture is a mixing of different people. yes, you lost many from original traits, because austrians imposed over, and you take it like yours. but you still have some traits, like unlogical way of thinking, phanatism, etc
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Envy?XDFor what??:)I call you Vlach,because I am not Romanian:)(EXONYM:)) What you write again, is the old Romanian complex,"accuse..."If you want see Turkic complex,watch the mirror.We are the more similar to Huns at once,as most of the people know and call us,and you can forget the Finno-Ugric/Turk jokes forever.Austrians could never Indo-Europize us,that's why they gave up in 1867.Hungary resisted and rejected and stopped Turks, this is our heritage,even if you don't like it.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy "Hungary resisted and rejected and stopped Turks, this is our heritage,even if you don't like it." we have absolutely no reasons to envy hungary-it is all I say! if you want to know why, learn hungarian, and romanian history. meanwhile no source called us turks, like magyars were. and I doubt romania will have more time, hence, a hochei team, in these conditions
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Maybe you misunderstood more things,it's somehow funny,as you ask me to learn history,although you are the who need to meet with clear historical interpretation.If you want,we can add and and publish it,however,it's a phenomenon today, how others see you.Your wordage is also confusing,since you use simultaneously the"Turk"/"Turkic" designation,although none of them are valid to Magyars neither today,nor the old time.Constantions indicated the reality,beyond the mistakes.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy I haven't meant the history from magyar holly scripture garbage. It is imposible for a healthy mind to asimilate it. I've mean real history you can find even on wikipedia. We have no reason to envy you because your "glory" against turks, because our victories against them were greater. On the other hand, we were never under turkish administration like you: no turkish institutions, never speaking you had lingvistic afiliations while you were pashalak 150 years
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Wikipedia does not reflect the truth. However, if we accept it announces mostly the official historical theories, you can see Hungarians are not even considered as Turkic people :) Never under Turkish administration? :D just a few hundred years of Ottoman suzerainty :) Only the middle part of Hungary fell in Turkish hand. Which battles you consider greater? If Hungary won't push them down, you could not be able to finish the job...
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy "Which battles you consider greater? If Hungary won't push them down, you could not be able to finish the job..." this is a clear example of falalcious argument(ambiguous assertion). Battle of vaslui, battle of Baia(ahahahah!), battle of rovine, battle of posada(ahahah), battle of calugareni, night attack...could you describe your role in this(except baia and posada, of course-ahahahah!)
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Battle of Posada??No relation to Turks.Noone denied your role as well stopping and fighting against the Turks,I just emphasized why is it bullshit to state any kind of similarity.However,the Western history writing evaluates the cutting edge of Hungary's contribution since She with her allies also organized battles haven't reached their territory,and even by stooping them entering the West.Moldavia and Wallachia contributed also before and as well after the withdrawal.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , you aren't Turkic people. You are mostly Slavs, easy to see on the genetic map of Europe. R1a huge 32.5%. The turanic waves which also gave the name of your country collected local people which formed the Hungarian people. Those people include mosly Slavs but also Germans, Vlachs and to some degree Cumans. The magyar rulling class is low in the ethnogenesis of Hungarians. Everything is easy to see on Eupedia at the genetical map of Europe. I suggest you start learning your true history
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusie Stop agitprop. Slav genetics, as well Indo-European genetics not exist. Both are language families. Indo-Europeans corrupt history since the romantic natoinal awakenings from the 18-19th century. Yes, in Hungary many nation contacted, mixed, but the r1a1 is not the so-called Indo-European gene, as you want it to identify, and are approx 60%.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy , and i repeat again learn history. You don't have not even basic knowledge. No "confussion" anywhere, since "Blaks" are mentioned even in Oguzname ( the oldest Turk chronicle ) as being Latin and Christian. The Vlachs are mentioned north of Danube in tones of chronicles - See Gesta, Kezai, Oguzname, Nestor's chronicle, Descriptio Europae Orientalis. It's even archeologically confirmed as Gelu's fortress exists at Dabaca country. So pls take your head of your ass. Have fun troll.
gogoasacenusie 1 month ago
@gogoasacenusieYou have no decisive evidence,primi boy,since there as many controversions pro and contra.The runic writing codifies an agglutinative, non-Indo-European language, the Magyar and relative languages. Kézai writes the Szeklers gathered them from the Olahs, although it's impossible, thus: Kézai mistaken something, other those mistaken who consider Blaci as Valchs. This designation were also used many times for many meaning, even for Turkic people (white/black Olahs).
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy google "A List Of Fallacious Arguments"! Maybe you're not aware about the peril your holly scriptures produced over your brain;
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd habla habla habla....Evidence talk. Your personal opinion is something else, sorry.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@ppnvrd unlogical way of thinkig = see your comments and the Daco-Roman theory ,and all historical slips, cheats and manipulations. Phanatism: in a Romania-Hungary football match you can't hear the Hungarian natinal anthem in Bucharest, but by Hungary-Romania, you can hear clearly the Romanian national anthem in Budapest. This is culture and respect. Prepare you'll hear the Szekler National Anthem every time your national hockey team plays. Forza Ice Hockey Romania!
sghxcy 1 month ago
point it, jerk! what do you want?
ppnvrd 1 month ago
Traiasca Romania mare! Bring us back to India!!!
AirForceRO02 1 month ago
Inteleg ca ungurul sau secuiul nu poate sa cante din toti plamanii si cu mana la inima "Desteapta-te romane !" , asta nu inseamna ca trebuie sa-l huiduiti si sa-l luati in batjocura cand il auziti .
In Romania de exemplu sunt foarte multi unguri care sunt prosperi si o duc bine , le-a pus cineva bete in roate ?!?
Cat despre politicieni corupti , ungurii vorbesc de parca n-au reprezentanti la fel de suspecti ca ai nostrii ...
vicenzo3000 1 month ago
@vicenzo3000 "Cat despre politicieni corupti , ungurii vorbesc de parca n-au reprezentanti la fel de suspecti ca ai nostrii ... "
am auzit ca au facut jaf cu padurile din harghita si covasna
ppnvrd 1 month ago
Secuii se defileaza pe 15 martie cu mesaje anti-romanesti , se mira de ce primesc raspuns pe 1 decembrie . Se izoleaza de restul lumii , de buna voie , si dup-aia dau vina pe romani ca sunt printre cele mai sarace zone si ca nu are nimeni habar ce se intampla acolo . V-o faceti cu mana voastra , nu va opreste nimeni sa traiti mai bine si sa va aratati cultura si traditiile .
Aveti o atitudine si o politica anti-sociala si asta va face numai rau si nu va opreste nimeni sa va comportati astfel .
vicenzo3000 1 month ago
daca tragem gard si va dam autonomie,independenta tot ce vreti voi maghiarii in juma de an muriti de foame,nu vedeti ca harghita si covasna sunt cele mai sarace judete din romania si ne trag p toti in jos.singuri sunteti k si morti depindeti de noi romanii.oricum forza romania suntem peste ungaria la toate capitolele m,mai ales la inteligenta,si asta am demonstrato in nenumarate rinduri.
liviu1990bute 1 month ago
@liviu1990bute "daca tragem gard si va dam autonomie,independenta tot ce vreti voi maghiarii in juma de an muriti de foame..."
ungurii din romania sunt in topul minoritatilor din europa privind drepturile. nu ar fi sfarsitul lumii daca ar avea autonomie, dar trebuie privit in ansamblul european. exista o chestiune care nu o prea spune nimeni, dar cat se poate de reala: romania deja si-a castigat multe antipatii tocmai fiindca a dat prea multe drepturi ubgurilor
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@liviu1990bute tari ca franta, grecia, nici nu recunosc termenul de minoritate nationala. altele ca ucraina, slovacia, ungaria, serbia... sunt mult in urma romaniei. pentru ei, descrierea corecta a situatiei ungurilor din romania este extrem de incomoda. obtinerea autonomiei secuilor nici n-ar fi de ajuns(ar fi si mai problematica): numai deplina independenta ar rezolva situatia. atunci s-ar spune: asta e situatia, romanii i-au persecutat, bla-bla.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@liviu1990bute deci, in acest context, mai multe drepturi nu se poate!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
Ez a legszebb dolog amit az utóbbi években láttam. Minden tiszteletem a SZÉKELYEKÉ!
inculto87 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Ugyan hagyjuk már! Ezekkel az oláh kecskebaszókkal nem lehet emberi nyelven értekezni. Folyton csak a maguk primitívségeit hajtogatják és ezek hiszik magukat rómaiaknak, holott a romákhoz több közük van. Amúgy meg Cozma magyar csapatban játszott, és senki se kérte tőle, hogy a magyar himnuszt énekelje.
MetalSoldier89 1 month ago
Morti vostri de bozgori jegosi! ATENȚIE CA VENIM PESTE VOI! You fucking bozgors! Pay ATENTION, WE COMING AFTER YOU!! ROMANIAAAAAAAA ROMANIAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
andrei86ro 1 month ago
Then, after helenistic period and hunic invassion, this populations mixed with mongoloid populations giving birth to turanic race. Only after, tribes like avars, magyars, pechenegs, turks....appeared. Anyway, the remaints of the scytho-sarmathians in east Europe rather contributed to the ethnogenesis of the slavs, than to original magyars. Of course, probably in their way to Panonia, probably original magyars mixed with some scytho-sarmathians.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd However,Indo-Europeans deny an existence of a turanid race,but altered many nations as"Mongols","Turks",who weren"t originally Mongol(oid).Many Mongol(oid) (yellow) people joined the Caucasian tribes, but it would not mean they were originally yellow. This makes the confusion as well. Sarmatians (as I said) are half Indo-Iranian, but the original Scythian element not. Hungarians are mostly from Sabir tribes, only the onogur element could contain something you would call "Turkic".
sghxcy 1 month ago
Everybody knows (except the victims of their propaganda), that when we say about indo-iranian-europeans ancient population, we say about the original caucasoid populations, from 2000 BC. Then, in central Asia, were no other populations than caucasoids. After the rise of the persian empire(1 milenium BC), this population was intensively mixed with mediteranean and semitic populations brought by persian administration.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd These original Caucasian population is the Non-Indo-European, Non-Semitic population speaking agglutinative languages in Europe to the Mesopotamia area, long before 2000 BC. (Sumerians, Mitanni, Kassites, Urartu, Assa-ur, Etruscs, Basques, Celtic tribes, etc.) Strabo: Persians are from the Scythians and the Medes. Thus the real Indo-Iranian/European population are from partly the people mentioned above mixed with Nordic elements having non-agglutinative language.
sghxcy 1 month ago
and to other side to re-invent the definition and history of turanians(linking them from archaic branches). So, they deny indo-europeans means caucasoids. Also, they deny scythians, iranians belong to indo-european branch, and are the precursors of turkik populations. They base in the ignorance of the readers of their bullshit stattements
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Totally the opposite is true, Indo-Europeans are reinventing history, their authors inthe ancient times clearly described the enthical and linguistical, cultural difference of the nation they corrupted later. Indo-Europeans are from the Nordic and the Caucasian (non-Indo-European, non-Semitic) substratum, it would be better a language family than racial classification. Today Turks are totally diferent as they were, you were told why.
sghxcy 1 month ago
for those unfamiliarised with hungarians problem: they face a double dilema- one, a crise of identity, since they look now like caucasoids(indo-europeans), but know magyars were recorded as turkik, second is a complex, as they know that turkik populations appeared just near the christ era. so, their nationalist historians try, one side, to re-invent the definition of indo-europeans(no conection with physical features-just an ethnic branch),
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd No, of course not, Hungarians were Caucasian at their conquest as well. The newwst problem is of the some ignorant Western authors, who are inventing fantasy names and bad classification of nations, sometimes they call everybody coming from the east Scythians, then Huns, then Turks, they ivent fantasy names like Thyssagetae, etc.
sghxcy 1 month ago
search "The facial type of the Scythians and Sarmatians", or watch?v=ghQSgttbod4
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd The video does not really proove anything, since Sarmatians have a half Indo-Iranian origin, but Scythians are different. The mistakes of the Roman/Greek authors calling everything Scythian coming from the made much mistakes lately, these also recognized by contemporary authors. That's why some Indo-European tribes contacted with the Scythians were mistaken to be originally Scythian.
sghxcy 1 month ago
pentru mine ca roman, fi nationalist inseamna ati iubi tara in care te-ai nascut si tara in care traesti , dar bozgoroii astia au mers prea departe , asa ca tre eutanasiati ca caini.........
despre nivelu de trai, autoritati sa-u legislatie e doar problema noastra.
0753918449 1 month ago
go and fuck yourself, psycho bozgors, and fuck of from our dacian belief. we could build a mega madhouse for you, if you behave....
ppnvrd 1 month ago
hai ca tiganu' mai e cum mai e...Dar bozgoru' e al dracu' rau de tot!!!!
alexstavi 1 month ago
bie, bie, and you can take your garbage with you!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd I don't leave. You run away every time you loose :)
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy well, you're better in garbage history! congratulations!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd I know some Romanians can't loose...they feel themselves ashamed of their defeat. However, it's not mainly your shame, your fault. Those are guilty, who planted silly theories in your heads and they measure your obedience to your country how far you will get away to defend impossible theories. Sad :(
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy yes, if the criterias are "history for idiots", and "art of complaint", I've lost
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Still pretending instead of facing your heavy loose...however, haven't expected anything else from you. You have failed to prove anything that's all. It's not my fault. Facto sunt facto.
sghxcy 1 month ago
watch?v=ghQSgttbod4
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd "Internal server error"
sghxcy 1 month ago
But the fact is the latins imposed their language over other highlanders than albanians, and adopted their life-style. The homogenity of the language was assured by permanent overpopulation migrationist behaviour, in highland zones from Greece to northern ridge of Carpathians
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd I disagree, evidence shows everything ends at the Danube. The most Northern area Olahs reached was Oláhdubova/Valaská Dubova (today in Slovakia), but they settled to the other side (Morva) of the Carpathians, but this happened only the XIII. century...
sghxcy 1 month ago
Both albanians and vlachs were once people of highlanders. The level of latinisation of albanian is probable the level of dacian(not daco-roman) at 275. Then, in many stages, the latin population(including daco-romans) from cities was relegated by slavs, avars, gepids..., and took refuge in highlands. Posible latins didn't chose nowday Albania. Posible the highlanders rejected them, fearing for concurence over living sources.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
I have nothing against albanian believe they are illyrians- it is quite posible. But I ask myself how the hell an important illyrian population remained unlatinised, considering Illyria was the first province romanised, and intensely urbanised? And how comes albanian contain an important lexic of germanic words, some common with romanian. Is not more probably they come from a daco-panonian population, in contact with gepids?
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd If you mind a Daco-Roman elemnt would migrate to the south, I heard such theories, but then Vlachs could not claim their ethnogenesis in Transilvania/Moldavia. Then we can ask also the old question...Why is missing Gepids/Germans influence on your language?
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy yes, the dacian, carpian element is well documented after 275, you just refuse to take anything else than kindergarden texts as evidence. Germanic elements in our language doesn't missing, it is just your holly scripture teached you.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd In fact, you were unable to disprove the primary sources and evidence making the Daco-Roman theory impossible. Not I am your enemy, truth and evidence is your enemy. So long you can't prove your point or disprove the primary sources/evidence, you're just wasting your time. You have elementary imperfection about ancient history as well.
sghxcy 1 month ago
@sghxcy you eat shit, my friend, and you like it!
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Thank You, no further questions. Come backa half year later as soon as improved your hollow knowledge.
sghxcy 1 month ago
Maybe there were not many daco-romans in Transylvania in 350, but for sure were lot of them in south Danube(or you could call them daco-thraco-illyrians). And for sure remained lot of dacians in Transylvania, Moldavia, Muntenia
It is nothing bad in having illyrian roots, but is much more less probable than dacian ones. Romanians can't lie themselves with weird ideeas like "once ethnogenesis complete, vlachs started to fuck like rabbits, and thus they came to dominate other nations..."
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd I don't agree. Facts, primary sources, evidence show totally the opposite. In Transilvania, Moldavia any possible Daco-Roman element were TOTALLY absent, even in Wallachia it is really enqestionable. All documents proving the ethnogenesis of the South-Balkan.
sghxcy 1 month ago
having a theory about origins, is very important for national cohession of every people. So, of the clear sources miss, the people have to work for a theory. Some people have more cohesive theory, some less. The daco-roman continuity was a good theory for its times, considering the means they had. Some ideeas are still valid and valuable.
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Yes, and this "national cohesion" and thus hatred towards other nation this theories offend have a huge political benefit, the leader can move almost all people of his nation to unite fro a common goal. In such a concept the Daco-Roman theory is very succesful, since Romania endoubled it's territory and earned huge benefits. The problem is, the myth is not true, just business...
sghxcy 1 month ago
so, isted to deal about FACTS propagated in your miserable nationalist, antiromanian writted works, better you should start to learn real history, starting with primary sources
ppnvrd 1 month ago
@ppnvrd Sorry,I know mostly all sources and theories widespread all sides.You should not generalize my statements,even if you met with them by well-known theories.I have met with many propaganda,and real history as well, however,every author can distort its interpretation to it's own favor,but evidence cannot be hindered(just one author don't even mention it)That's why you have to be open.Believe me propaganda has no effect on me,carefully checked everything. Prove me wrong if you can!
sghxcy 1 month ago