a bunch of you all sound like some dana nut huggers. anything this guy says, you agree. "kenny florian is one of the best, he just chokes against other good fighters. o yea, and fedor emelianenko sucks too." lol some of you all are rediculious
Why dont you fight him you Mr Clean looking like man. Greedy you pay guys that smash each others face in cheap money Why dont you get in the ring with all the fighters you talk bad about.
dana pay your fighters more money they are worth it. Its not like you cant afford it with a new ufc every month and sometimes bi monthly. Dana White is the don king of mma and will kill mma with his greed
Thats one big difference from a boxing match to an MMA match. A boxers complete strategy sometimes is to win on points and never go for a knock out. In MMA your career wouldn't go very far with that strategy. We expect MMA fighters to lay it all on the line and bang away. Thats just the way it is. If you want to win your MMA matches on points alone, get into boxing. The fans expect more in MMA-they pay the bills. I love Florian when he does his thing. He gave too much respect to Maynard.
@herbiesnerd yea right. look at gsp's whole career. he based his whole last five years one keeping the distance and winning fights by the time running out. and dana and his nut huggers think gsp is one of the best and top p4p (p4p doesn't exist btw) .
Florian values the championship belt too much. If he didn't care so much and just fought with nothing to lose he would probably have been champ by now.
i understand Dana's frustration. I love Kenny Florian but when he refuses to fight to his potential when it matters it pisses me off too. That guy should have already been champion and a lot of people know that. That's where Dana's frustration was coming from. If this guy could just perform when it matters he'd have a belt.
What I saw in that fight was Kenny trying to stay behind his jab too much. I think he got too confident with it from the Gomi fight. Gomi and Maynard are two very different fighters, yet he approached them the same. If u let a powerful wrestler come forward, u allow him to implement his game. Kenny needed to have put the pressure on Maynard and backed him up.
Dana! Kenny would get outwrestled by Maynard 100% of the time. What are you talking about. Kenny should have done the Edgar on Maynard. Hit and run. In, out and to the side. hit run.
@AlcoholicSemenStain I don't even know what to say to you, except it's people like you that keep humanity from progressing. I'll bet you've never been in a fight in your life, and you're badmouthing a guy who rips people to shreds in the Octagon for a living. You're a skidmark on the ass of humanity, and your username proves it.
ufc is slowly going to shit...... badly needs some new fighters.... any1 worth a shit has fought each other... cards are gone so bad.. and as for the next 2 pathetic
@sekon2008 bro that is straight up crazy talk. if anything there is so many good guys it's a shame that only one of them can hold the title. it's insane. but if your saying that strikeforce is pretty exciting too I would not disagree with you because there is some great fighters there too.
There are tons of talented guys constantly being added to the UFC Roster. Charles Oliveira, Evan Dunham, Roy Nelson, Yoshihiro Akiyama etc. And just because I've seen A. Silva fight a billion times, it doesn't make it any less exciting, they always put on good fights. But I would love to see those guys you mentioned fighting in the UFC .. better yet, take all the fighters from DREAM, Bellator, UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, and make them fight each other, that's MMA Heaven.
i'm gonna go on a tangent and say he didn't choke AND it wasn't his wrestling that let him down.
Kenny florian is a BJJ black belt and he should have had more answers for maynard off his back!
I mean he will never be so good at wrestling that a guy like that who is one of the best wrestlers in lightweight mma can't take him down, but he should have had a better guard than what he showed. I mean when he had that omaplata and maynard defended he should have had a solution for that!
He didn't choke, but it sure looked like it. No leg kicks? no kicks what so ever? Wrestling aside, he didn't throw anything. It didn't look like the normal Ken Flo. There was no energy on the stand up let alone the ground. It definitely looked like he choked.
i honestly have to agree.....kenflo is my 2nd favorite fighter in mma aside from eddie alvarez and i honestly could say that he was no the fighter im used to seeing...it sucks too
I wouldn't call it 'choking', but he definitely plays it too safe in big fights and ends up letting his opponent dictate what happens. Maynard did next to nothing in that fight so Kenny could've easily stolen it merely with some aggression and control. It's a shame, because when Kenny isn't so timid, he's easily the 2nd or 3rd best lightweight in the world.
He needs to rethink himself now. I'd really love to see him add some muscle and work on his wrestling from here on out.
I think Kenny was just so worried about being taken down that he didn't strike like he usually does. His sorner gave him great advice when they told him to stay in the center of the octagon because Grey could only take him down against the cage. Maybe Kenny and BJ will end up fighting again without a title on the line.
In the third round I also knew he lost the first two, then he just stood there as if it was round one and I'm like WTF YOU DOING, GIVE IT A GO?!@#?#!@!@#
bullshit. The Huerta and Stevenson fights were both no.1 contender fights, just like this one, and Kenny whopped dat ass. He isn't good of is back and lacks TDD. His top game is great as well as his offensive wrestling. But he obviously can't use them against the best wrestler in the division, or against Penn for many reasons.
@Amazingred1990 Your the definition of a fucking moron. Gray is a damn good fighter. He didn't take Diaz down once and won that fight. And sure he took Florian down but does that mean he sucks? Absolutely not you retarted fuck. St Pierre takes people down. Shields takes people down. Fitch takes people down. Couture takes people down. The list goes on. I hate mma retards like you. Gray beat Edgar, Diaz, and now Florian. STOP WATCHING THE UFC!
@L60Videos You assume I hate the ground game in MMA, you're wrong, deifference between those guys you said and Gray is that they try to pass guard and even Chael Sonnen who I like who doesn't pass guard he fucks guys up from inside their guard, Gray doesn't do that much yes he stays busy but hardly aims to finish a fight. Yeah I'm going to stop watching the UFC because you say so? Fuck off
Lets see if Kenny will choke or not against Jose Aldo. Dana will be watching the fight very closely.
nakata2112 4 months ago
get your punkass out there dana dane!!! always talkin shit about fighters!!!!! he should be banned!!
rafyraf100 5 months ago
@rafyraf100
To bad hes the chairman of the UFC, he can't be "banned"....
Breakneckhydra1 4 months ago
@Breakneckhydra1 they should form a union!!!
rafyraf100 4 months ago
@rafyraf100
This is fighting, not a team sport.
The fighters would just break apart and go lonewolf because there is no steady paycheck in MMA, you either fight and get paid, or go broke.
Breakneckhydra1 4 months ago
@rafyraf100 they should form thier own fighting championships!!
rafyraf100 4 months ago
Kenny florian is freakin awsome very smart and strong fighter
Raffael900me 5 months ago
a bunch of you all sound like some dana nut huggers. anything this guy says, you agree. "kenny florian is one of the best, he just chokes against other good fighters. o yea, and fedor emelianenko sucks too." lol some of you all are rediculious
rahmizzle84 7 months ago
Why dont you fight him you Mr Clean looking like man. Greedy you pay guys that smash each others face in cheap money Why dont you get in the ring with all the fighters you talk bad about.
TheBlingbong1 8 months ago
dana pay your fighters more money they are worth it. Its not like you cant afford it with a new ufc every month and sometimes bi monthly. Dana White is the don king of mma and will kill mma with his greed
relaconevents 8 months ago
Thats one big difference from a boxing match to an MMA match. A boxers complete strategy sometimes is to win on points and never go for a knock out. In MMA your career wouldn't go very far with that strategy. We expect MMA fighters to lay it all on the line and bang away. Thats just the way it is. If you want to win your MMA matches on points alone, get into boxing. The fans expect more in MMA-they pay the bills. I love Florian when he does his thing. He gave too much respect to Maynard.
herbiesnerd 9 months ago
@herbiesnerd
You're joking.. Look at GSP, Jon Fitch, etc.. These guys careers are built around winning points and decisions rather then winning finishes.
SkyrimOwns 8 months ago
@herbiesnerd yea right. look at gsp's whole career. he based his whole last five years one keeping the distance and winning fights by the time running out. and dana and his nut huggers think gsp is one of the best and top p4p (p4p doesn't exist btw) .
rahmizzle84 7 months ago
Florian values the championship belt too much. If he didn't care so much and just fought with nothing to lose he would probably have been champ by now.
tsiaotsiao 11 months ago
i understand Dana's frustration. I love Kenny Florian but when he refuses to fight to his potential when it matters it pisses me off too. That guy should have already been champion and a lot of people know that. That's where Dana's frustration was coming from. If this guy could just perform when it matters he'd have a belt.
nkyryry 11 months ago
What I saw in that fight was Kenny trying to stay behind his jab too much. I think he got too confident with it from the Gomi fight. Gomi and Maynard are two very different fighters, yet he approached them the same. If u let a powerful wrestler come forward, u allow him to implement his game. Kenny needed to have put the pressure on Maynard and backed him up.
yellowsneakers234 1 year ago
totally true, kflo only rolls mid level fighters, and when he does it's exciting
EndlessStarfall 1 year ago
Dana! Kenny would get outwrestled by Maynard 100% of the time. What are you talking about. Kenny should have done the Edgar on Maynard. Hit and run. In, out and to the side. hit run.
Ahbustae86 1 year ago
i love kenflo but i have to agree with everything dana said
RodrigoVanilla93 1 year ago
Kenny's jew-ness inhibits his fighting ability when the presure is on
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
@AlcoholicSemenStain You're a fucking anti-semetic skidmark on the ass of humanity.
BPositiveDresser 1 year ago
@AlcoholicSemenStain I don't even know what to say to you, except it's people like you that keep humanity from progressing. I'll bet you've never been in a fight in your life, and you're badmouthing a guy who rips people to shreds in the Octagon for a living. You're a skidmark on the ass of humanity, and your username proves it.
BPositiveDresser 1 year ago 2
@BPositiveDresser I beat peoples ass for fun in bars. Little faggots like you. Then I tie them up and cut off their fingers with a bolt cutter.
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
@AlcoholicSemenStain He's not Jewish dumbass.
Rodriguer2000 1 year ago
@Rodriguer2000 he's certainly ugly enough 2 be a jew
LilBlitz116 1 year ago
Kenny is the genius who fails important tests
KevinDFuller94 1 year ago
Another words, Kenny florian ain't championship material! It's as simple
as that! First time i actually agree with the douchbag Dana white! But
he's so right here, this guy always crumbles in big fights! How many
fucken times did it happen already... He'll just beat on the below average
fighters, and he'll never be a champion! Kenny sucks!
stockmaster1982 1 year ago
EVEN IN THE THIRD ROUND!
sisudo21 1 year ago
FUCK YOU dana white. u use the F word too much
666StraightToHell666 1 year ago
Florian was still more exciting than Anderson Silva's snore fests.
BlackScorpionSkull 1 year ago
He'll run through them, like a @#$%en Freight train!
OnCallDoctor 1 year ago
He'll run through them, like a @#$%en Fraight train!
OnCallDoctor 1 year ago
ufc is slowly going to shit...... badly needs some new fighters.... any1 worth a shit has fought each other... cards are gone so bad.. and as for the next 2 pathetic
sekon2008 1 year ago
@sekon2008 bro that is straight up crazy talk. if anything there is so many good guys it's a shame that only one of them can hold the title. it's insane. but if your saying that strikeforce is pretty exciting too I would not disagree with you because there is some great fighters there too.
stephenGunit 1 year ago
@sekon2008 If UFC brings, Fedor, Alistair Overeem,
Bigfoot Silva, Nick Diaz, Cung Le, Werdum, Josh Barnett,
than yes, UFC will be very exciting, but as of now,
it's the same old fighters, again and again! Ur right, it's
slowly starting to suck... lol~ They do need some new
fighters indeed! I'm sick of them overhyping the same fighters
that were proven to be ineffective!
stockmaster1982 1 year ago
@stockmaster1982
There are tons of talented guys constantly being added to the UFC Roster. Charles Oliveira, Evan Dunham, Roy Nelson, Yoshihiro Akiyama etc. And just because I've seen A. Silva fight a billion times, it doesn't make it any less exciting, they always put on good fights. But I would love to see those guys you mentioned fighting in the UFC .. better yet, take all the fighters from DREAM, Bellator, UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, and make them fight each other, that's MMA Heaven.
MMAenthusiastUHHE 1 year ago
@MMAenthusiastUHHE Indeed! If u bring Fedor, We can have
Fedor vs Cain, Fedor vs Brock, Fedor vs JDS, Fedor vs Carwin!
If we bring Overeem, Overeem vs Brock, Overeem vs Cain!
Just by bringing 2 great fighters u can already the big difference,
and the many different fight options the UFC can have! Sure UFC
has brought many different talents, like Akiyama, Evan dunham
etc., but some weight classes aren't that exciting! I'm most excited
by the UFC heavyweight and light heavyweight class!
stockmaster1982 1 year ago
I agree with dana, florian will win his next 2 fights
EricJames28 1 year ago
Kenny's an intelligent guy, and that might be his downfall in big fights because he thinks to much
moonerjamerson 1 year ago 19
@moonerjamerson Your so right
KevinDFuller94 1 year ago
@moonerjamerson he got bullied stop over complicating it
bunce101 1 year ago
@moonerjamerson He is not physical enough for somebody like Maynard or Penn. They are just too much for him. He should try to make 145.
justfine77777 9 months ago
i'm gonna go on a tangent and say he didn't choke AND it wasn't his wrestling that let him down.
Kenny florian is a BJJ black belt and he should have had more answers for maynard off his back!
I mean he will never be so good at wrestling that a guy like that who is one of the best wrestlers in lightweight mma can't take him down, but he should have had a better guard than what he showed. I mean when he had that omaplata and maynard defended he should have had a solution for that!
bmwhsv 1 year ago
Agreed with Dana.
ArmyGuns89 1 year ago
kenny fuckin choked
themondoshow 1 year ago
Dana hit the nail on the head.
BDuv1 1 year ago
He didn't choke, but it sure looked like it. No leg kicks? no kicks what so ever? Wrestling aside, he didn't throw anything. It didn't look like the normal Ken Flo. There was no energy on the stand up let alone the ground. It definitely looked like he choked.
PrisonCipher 1 year ago
He did not choke, he was out-wrestled, that's it.
KalifUmestoKalifa 1 year ago
Ken Flo chokes on cock
FreestyleFightingTV 1 year ago
he's right
Allcombatsports 1 year ago
i honestly have to agree.....kenflo is my 2nd favorite fighter in mma aside from eddie alvarez and i honestly could say that he was no the fighter im used to seeing...it sucks too
slothdaddy915 1 year ago
I wouldn't call it 'choking', but he definitely plays it too safe in big fights and ends up letting his opponent dictate what happens. Maynard did next to nothing in that fight so Kenny could've easily stolen it merely with some aggression and control. It's a shame, because when Kenny isn't so timid, he's easily the 2nd or 3rd best lightweight in the world.
He needs to rethink himself now. I'd really love to see him add some muscle and work on his wrestling from here on out.
kappy0405 1 year ago
therse not much you can do against maynard..cause all he does is hug
crimen 1 year ago
I agree with Dana 100%. Kenny did fuck all!
secret212000 1 year ago
@secret212000 His wrestling isn't as good as Gray. Kenny didn't want to put on a boring fight like Maynard loves to. Fucking wrestling match.
Feralig 1 year ago
sum of my fav fighters r disappionting me
heartnsoul123 1 year ago
fucking florian... hes cost me mad dough in the past
msharbaf 1 year ago
@msharbaf You lost it yourself dumbass. Bet on the wrong person.
Feralig 1 year ago
Dana keeps it real, respect.
echo1v 1 year ago
Wow, he said it perfectly!
DariushUFC1985 1 year ago 14
dana white is being honest, kenny florian chokes
Aagis6teen 1 year ago
I think Kenny was just so worried about being taken down that he didn't strike like he usually does. His sorner gave him great advice when they told him to stay in the center of the octagon because Grey could only take him down against the cage. Maybe Kenny and BJ will end up fighting again without a title on the line.
omission13 1 year ago
Very true.
In the third round I also knew he lost the first two, then he just stood there as if it was round one and I'm like WTF YOU DOING, GIVE IT A GO?!@#?#!@!@#
SinisterSkip 1 year ago
bullshit. The Huerta and Stevenson fights were both no.1 contender fights, just like this one, and Kenny whopped dat ass. He isn't good of is back and lacks TDD. His top game is great as well as his offensive wrestling. But he obviously can't use them against the best wrestler in the division, or against Penn for many reasons.
rampagesgrill84 1 year ago
@rampagesgrill84 he wasn't fighting in his hometown then was he?
damane08 1 year ago
@damane08 No, and he wasn't chocking like White said...
rampagesgrill84 1 year ago
yeah Lay N Praynard is now in a title fight man that sucks.
Amazingred1990 1 year ago 2
@Amazingred1990 Your the definition of a fucking moron. Gray is a damn good fighter. He didn't take Diaz down once and won that fight. And sure he took Florian down but does that mean he sucks? Absolutely not you retarted fuck. St Pierre takes people down. Shields takes people down. Fitch takes people down. Couture takes people down. The list goes on. I hate mma retards like you. Gray beat Edgar, Diaz, and now Florian. STOP WATCHING THE UFC!
L60Videos 1 year ago
@L60Videos yea but theyre boring as shit
MILFHUNTER947 1 year ago
@MILFHUNTER947 You can call them boring. They kinda are but to say he sucks is completely ignorant.
L60Videos 1 year ago
@L60Videos You assume I hate the ground game in MMA, you're wrong, deifference between those guys you said and Gray is that they try to pass guard and even Chael Sonnen who I like who doesn't pass guard he fucks guys up from inside their guard, Gray doesn't do that much yes he stays busy but hardly aims to finish a fight. Yeah I'm going to stop watching the UFC because you say so? Fuck off
Amazingred1990 1 year ago
True Say !!
jlippy1992 1 year ago
bad kenflo. i rather see a florian vs edgar than edgar vs maynard -____-
wdp11683 1 year ago
Kenflo is definately one of my faves, but Dana's right
pedigreeY2J 1 year ago
Real Talk
oluwakamau 1 year ago
true say
12freddyscomingforu 1 year ago