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  • "U2's The Edge Reveals His Guitar Secrets" ...all in a 33 second video?

  • "This is a humble man" -- with a lot to be humble about

  • this aint from it might get loud

  • "Hey, this is a really cool new riff!

    *Band members' confused expressions*

    Oh sorry! I forgot the foot pedal...."

    And Elevation was born.

  • In the late 70's, I got to see tons of new bands in NYC. I saw the Police & I saw it immediately, they were tight and very good musicians, they were going to be huge. Then I saw U2 & I wasn't too impressed. The Edge himself made apologies that he was only playing for a year or so. I think that not being a very proficient player, he used the guitar differently than others did. I thought U2 would go nowhere, boy was I wrong. He has a very unique tone, making U2 instantly recognizable.

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  • This is a humble man!!! WUAO!!!!!

  • The Edge's secret: "Less is more".

  • The fukin edge ain't written anything better than anything hendrix's written. Try Bold As Love. I bet u nefer heard of the Axis 12 year olds damn I'm raging.

  • I would actually like to see some of these people (who haven't impacted pop music like the Edge) to spend the thousands of dollars on vintage rack equipment and analog effects, connect it all so that one of the processors works as a master clock, program their midi board and show us how its all done. Oh, while they are at it, might as well create a new sound that people will get really excited about.

  • The genius isn't in playing it. The genius is in coming up with it.

  • @0x777 well said! he has to be damn clever to say "hey, i want to make this sound, and if i use this, this and this, i can do it"

  • Hes basically sayin "Hey look at me I cant play 4 shit but im rich and famous". AND DONT EVER COMPARE the edge TO JIMI FUKIN HENDRIX!!!

  • @thesinner922 you are an idiot the edge is 24th on the rollingstone top 100 guitarist's, and he's not saying that he cant play guitar for shit he's saying it's just so simple and smart.

    simple is the best, hey i bet you havent invented anything on guitar oh wait do you even play guitar i bet you dont. And WTF he'll never beat jimi henrix, but the edge is a different guitarist you WANKER!!.

  • @cuber03 I play the guitar unlike you motherfucker and unlike you motherfucker I know my shit, couse anyone who has ever picked a guitar or fucked around with music in some way will tell you THE FUKING EDGE MOTHERFUCKER SUCKS FUKING DONKEY BALLS.

    IF U WANT A MINIMALISTIC GENIUS MOTHEFUCKER GO LISTEN TO DAVE GILMOUR. IF U WANT A BRIGHT COLOURFUL GENIUS GO FOR HENDRIX, IF YOU WANT REAL TECHNIQUE GO LISTEN TO JIMI PAGE

    No go jerk off to your Bono (the greatest singer LOLOLO) poster goddamnit.

  • @thesinner922 its weird how im typing this message with my guitar in my lap FUCK WIT. i know that the edge is not the best but he was self taught so thats what makes him unique . unlike you and i also listen to all jimi hendrix, david gilmour and jimi page but i mostly listen to warren haynes, joe bonamassa, bb king, eric clapton and heaps of other guitarist's you wouldnt even know you probably only listen to those 3 anyway when their's millions of great guitarist.

  • @cuber03 sure thing bro those four I approve...

    BUT DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE FUKING EDGE!!!!!

    and dont pretend u know more bout the blues\rock\funk\jazz or anything related than me FUKWIT ROBERT JOHNSON FTW

  • @thesinner922 iv'e been listening to blues since i was 8 and im 15 now so i know a fair bit about blues but even more about rock, and wait in the other message you said i dont play guitar you should have gone to my channel first.

  • @cuber03 Ok u like Family Guy, The Fat Dancing kid and Stuck In The Middle With You.

    Ur a kool kid. I take it back. But the Edge fukin sucks donkey cock. I hope u realise that 1 day.

  • @thesinner922 yeah ok, do you know how rare it is to have a kid in australia listen to music like the blues and rock, we have like 7 radio stations that play the same pop shit over and over again no one ever talks about any other music, its horrible yeah but you dont like the edge and i dont mind him and that is your opinion and we'll just leave it at that.

    good bye person i dont know

  • @thesinner922 you seem like you would know all about sucking donkey cock...must have learned from your daddy aka the ass

  • @cuber03 PS: JOHN FRUSCIANTE - THE LAST GREAT GUITAR PLAYER MOTHERFUKER HAS MORE TALENT IN HIS PINKIE THAN THIS GODDAMN SQUIRREL. im out

  • @thesinner922 and aint it funny that Frusciante loves the Edge...you tube "Frusciante - Sunday Bloody Sunday"....looks like you been knocked the fuck out douchebag

  • @thesinner922 Edge has written better songs than Hendrix though.

  • PEOPLE HERE IS STUPID , IS NOT ABOUT HOW BETTER YOU CAN PLAY AN INSTRUMENT , THIS TRY ABOUT WHO MANY INSTRUMENT YOU CAN USE IN ONE SONG IN ORDER TO MAKE A COMPOSITION THAT RESULT IN SOMETHIN THAT SOUNDS INTERESTIN....ALL IS ABOUT HUMAN COMPLEX THATS ALL

  • A lot of ignorant posts here. This is just one song. He doesn't do this for all the songs. Listen to his solos in electrico, nyd, bullet the blue sky, and so on. There must be a lot of pure hate towards the edge to say that he can't play.

  • i just dont see how this sounds good? who like all that delay and shit effects? too much for me...

  • This video could've been 3 seconds long, with Edge just saying "delay".

  • he can't play guitar its nothing special two chords and 100 efects he sucks !

  • Well I'm at least impressed that he "reveals" it this way and recognizes how it sounds without effects.

  • Yes the edge does rely on technology but he is honest, does it in a musical way and uses it to open his guitar playing rather than cheat.

  • when hes playing ,naive stuff sounds right. he just knows what hes doing. hat down maestro !

  • This guy (The Edge) is a genius.....what a scientist's brain this man has when he can come up with that sound from just those two notes

  • @wolfennyc So it takes a scientist's brain to use distortion, a phaser, and a wah pedal?

  • @CaramelMarshmallow sounds like someone's a little jealous..it takes a scientist of sound to create the guitar parts he does using effects to be so detailed as to know what guitar with what effect pedal at what setting will create the interesting sounds to be used in the framework of a song .......the guy spends countless hours in studio doing that...so yeah don't be a jealous hater.

  • @wolfennyc It's not being a hater. It's literally nothing more than plugging in a delay pedal to a guitar. I can get the exact same sound in less than 5 seconds. He hasn't invented any new effects, he's simply using an old technology in an excessive way.

  • the edge without effects is a vulgar guitarrist.

    Johnny Greenwood from radiohead is better. Efects+quality+imagination.

    I never see the edge without effects!

  • @PLumaverde shut up shitdick......without the Edge there would be no Johnny Greenwood...without U2 there would be no Radiohead

  • Genius...he's truly mastered the use of effect pedals...

    

  • I think the edge is great. Never hear him in the news. Talks a lot of sense and doesnt take him self too serious. Loves playing guitar. Hate U2 all you like but you cannot dislike this man and his playing style.

  • Funny clip. He's using the effects pedals and the rest of it as if it were another instrument. See the animated portion on him in "It Might Get Loud".

  • @roninredshade Great that you are here to tell us these things since we didn't just watch the same clip..

  • @azynkron : Hey, you made a sarcastically grateful comment....

  • Edge is too modest. To be able to lay down a good guitar rhythm isn't that easy. You got to nail it just right.

  • I'm not the biggest U2 fan, most of their stuff from the 90s and onwards is pretty dull. Listen to their early stuff, their live performances and demos from the 80's. They have a LOT of talent, they just went in a different direction with it.

  • If I get old, that's how I'd like to be

  • WTF IS THAT PEDAL BOARD O.O?

  • What's that really big pedal board he has there anyone? Control board maybe?

  • "U2s The Edge reveals his guitar secrets" !!! ha ha no surprise that the vid only lasts for 33 seconds

  • @dollcakes ha ha you aint a fucking comedian...kudos to the man for having the balls to make fun of himself.

    What you should be saying is wow...how much time did he spend figuring out out how you could take those two notes and make it sound that awesome.Instead you decided to be a dipshit about it.

  • @dollcakes even thou people will burn you.. that was fun hahahaha :D

  • The Edge is not only a great guitarist, however, he is a master of sound manipulation.

  • The problem is bro, your shit riff still sounds shit with all the effects?

  • @MrSaxguy3

    Looks like someone fell in love with Jack White when he saw It Might Get Loud

  • THE EDGE IS THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER

  • @absder456

    :')

    troll

  • @Thompsongast Ur the troll

  • @absder456

    damm now I see, how bad´s that :')

    Just trying to say that I didn't totally agree with you, however The Edge is in my top 5 list, it's all a matter of taste isn't it?

  • edge really is about what sounds great for the vibe/song, hes not a widdler,hes all about the vibeand he's fookin great at it.mixing melody with rythmn he really is one of the greats of our time...i..applaude his style/technique hes a great writer and plays just whats right for the song...and that takes control...-john sapcote

  • well..he is being honest atleast

  • his secret is that he barely can play the guitar and he uses advanced science to make it sound good. what science can do these days....

  • hahahha!!! que wena!! edge: mira aqui esta mi nuevo riff !!!! hahahhaha look at his face!!!!!

  • hahahha!!! que wena!! Mira tengo un riff!!!! hahahhaha

  • what effects do you need to do the intro of Elevation?

  • @BioCofMN its a KAY FUZZ pedal he uses for the intro. it was also modified to a certain sound after he got it.

  • You may have the great shredders like Kirk Hammett and Dave Mustaine, and I admire him. But what makes The Edge such a great guitarist is his simplicity. He knows his place in the band, and isn't too flashy. He does what he needs to, and does it well.

  • @d2creations

    The difference is you can learn to play the guitar professionally and learn to shred from that. The Edge never had any formal guitar training. He made his own sound out of what had become a very copycat instrument(with a few exceptions) by the late '70's.

  • i still think it's a cool riff even without the pedal

  • Lindooooooooooooo

    

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  • To anyone that says he's not a technically good guitarist, check out the live versions of Love is Blindness, Bullet the Blue Sky, The Fly ....incredible

  • This man gives hope to people like me

  • He makes an amazing song with a couple of notes, you can practice and be fast, but what he does is beyond that...he is just Unique, he has an amazing rythm with his right hand, it's more than original, it's a legend...and even if you don't like him, you recognize his style in a second

  • hey no secrets ???????

  • @TNTDANE buy a delay pedal, thats the secret.

  • He's a cutie, lol

  • at least he is honest

  • Did Edge just Trollfaced at 0:13 ?

  • @TheKungFuProductions Keep on pressing "4" to see it

  • jajaja es un genio!!! cualquier otro diria que lo hace el a ese sonido... creo q es uno de los guitarristas que van a pasar a la historia como los mejores...

  • lol, the edge rocks...

  • lol, the edge rocks...

  • hes so hilarious what a legend right on

  • 0:19 LOL :L:L

  • He is so aware of the fact that he can change anything into anything else with

    all the effects that he has...

    That is the difficult part:not try to hit a million notes per minute,but actually make rifs that stay immortal...

  • I personally am not the biggest fan of edge, however there is no denying he is talented. And I think everyone getting angry just wishes they thought of that. Simple but effective.

  • the edge is the essence of music & musicianship..he creates..in his case creates sounds, textures w/ his guitar & all that is at his disposal..and today we have with modern tecnology alot to create with..he does it better than most, i for example was always overwhelmed with all the effects & programming and diff amps,sounds effect pedals,racks..it was too much for my mind to wrap around.Edge actually enjoys it hence his success.

  • man i want that stack of goodies behind him for christmas

  • You dont need to play a 5 min solo of screeching notes jusr to be a good guitarist, to let you know

  • mind. raped.

    xD

  • oh my god 33 second of secrets that is freaking much

  • The Edge doesnt have any guitar secrets he just steps on a bunch of random buttoms then plays a couple of strings and calls it a song

  • @Yourmomathon Hahahaha.

    If it only was that simple.

    Remember playing music is easy.

    Writing music is a whole different thing.

    Writing Amazing music takes loads of talent and musicianship.

  • @ArrJayEss well hes just proved the riffs he writes are shit anyway

  • @Yourmomathon the thing is, it actually sounds like a song. Some random youtube shredder puts up 10 minutes worth of notes and solos and pyros and what not, and actually sounds garbage

  • @phektus I never said any of that shredding shit was good i just meant that the edge was wayy overrated for what he did he is OKAY not great or even good i just think he's too overrated

  • @Yourmomathon do you play guitar?

  • @93MrAcdc Yea i do

  • @93MrAcdc One's ability to play guitar does not factor into the validity of their own personal opinion. Is what they say going to change your opinion? No. So why blow up over it? :P

  • does anyone know which chords he invented?

  • Anyone can be The Edge. If he can afford at least some of fancy toys The Edge is using

  • @Chillton don't talk shit.. you could have never come up with such an idea for that kind of sound.. it doesnt have to be hard to play..

  • @eddiemanx that kind of sound had benn developed by the engineers who made whole that effects. He could plug them to a kazoo and play that stuff as well. Why does he still uses guitar if he can develop such sound on his own Mac?

  • @Chillton

    If that's the case I should be The Edge Ultimate.

    But I'm not. So please stop talking wank.

  • @mattressjedi

    Good for you.

    Good for us all.

    One Edge, one U2 is far enough.

  • Still not a fan, but I can appreciate his approach a little better now.

  • i guess thats his style .. every guitarist is different .. I personally like that kinda thing cus its jus different to what most guitarist aim to achieve, which is shredding and amazing solos .. Im not sayin he cant play like that at all, he just prefers effects and new sounds .. Still not liking his name choice tho ha

  • "the foot pedal... the effects... the whole thing." Yes. It is the whole thing, for a talentless fraud like The Edge. Can't wait for more uninspired derivative tripe from the world's most overrated band. God what awful fucking music.

  • Moral: Buy a guitar, an Amp, AND A PEDAL !

  • Fuck the haters, The Edge is one of the people who really gets it. He's using effects as an extension of the guitar, playing the effects themselves as much or even more than just the guitar.

  • @raizumichin -Him and Mel Gibson!!!

    (Out of You don't mess with the Zohan.)

  • I have to get this documentary

  • You said it Edge:

    "The rest is the footpedal, the effects, the whole thing..."

    and my personal favourite - "Listen to this riff, its a really cool riff....*plays boring bullshit.*"

    I was expecting something a bit more inspriring, considering in this film Page plays whole lotta love.... damn...

  • @MrSaxguy3 - He was being sarcastic you f++k.

    Edge is class.

  • @HiggsFenderU2

    Give me some credit for having a brain. Obviously he was being sarcastic when he said "Listen to this really cool riff" or whatever it was.... but by him thinking its sarcastic - intelligent, musical people are going "yeah... you're right to be sarcastic... it's shit.." In a sense, his sarcasm is reality, which is pretty tragic.

    Also - define what you mean by "class" - i'm unclear on why the Edge is... in the shittest description ever..."class"

  • @MrSaxguy3:

    - I'm from Derry, its a slang word we use.

    It donsn't actually mean "rank" or "grade."

    It means "Lethal," and if you think by that I mean "Deadly," well, I don't really know how to explain it to you.

    -Brilliant...there thats what it means.

    Matt.

  • @HiggsFenderU2

    Yeah I know what it means as a slang word... i was wondering how you could apply it to this video with any authority or meaning, seeing as the edge's pedal massacre is not... "class."

    Look, peace man, i accept we have hugely different opinions. :P

  • @HiggsFenderU2

    Yeah fine, he sells out stadiums, but... that makes him an entertainer... (as I once heard it compared,)... like "bozo the clown." Not clever at all, just listenable enough to huge amounts of people.

    Try and defend the Edge's guitar talent. It's a futile argument against the likes of Page and White.

  • @MrSaxguy3 What you are over-looking is that The Edge's goal is not to impress people with fancy guitar riffs. His goal is to complement the song, and I promise no one can think of anything that would sound better in that song than what he is playing.

  • @MrSaxguy3 how narrow-minded of you. sure hes not technically as good blah blah blah but his riffs and melodies, as well as his originality when it comes to the use of effects pedals, compliment his songs. he is extremely creative when it comes to his guitar approach, and just because he plays differently to page or white doesnt make him any less unique. dont judge or over-analyse and step back and listen to the music itself, it will give you a more mature perspective.

  • @aektzis91

    I dont think it's "narrow minded" to be annoyed that people who rely on technology are making so much money they dont know what to do with it.

    Just bugs me. I'm just a bit reluctant to call him a great guitar player, because, i mean, people forget - he is a making a living out of being a proffesional GUITAR PLAYER. Not a professional computer technician. I just dont believe it's musical to rely on technology. I disagree that it's narrow minded to be against RELIANCE on technology

  • @MrSaxguy3

    Then why the fuck did we ever even go electric???? Why aren't we still strumming on our acoustics like the middle ages. Dope.

  • @mattressjedi Im sorry what?

    "Why did we ever go electric?" So you're saying we have to use effects pedals like the edge... because we can. Wait, what?

    And we ARE still strumming our acoustics like the middle ages... as an example... look at ANY band.

    Not only are there very successful acoustic songs still today, but what makes the technique of "strumming an acoustic" any different when it's played louder.

    Radiohead "Everything in it's right place" live - mature use of effects pedals.

  • @MrSaxguy3

    The Edge has a reliance on technology just like Hendrix had a reliance on the wah wah you dope. Every guitar player who plugs in is relying on technology. 

  • @MrSaxguy3

    The Edge has a reliance on technology just like Hendrix had a reliance on the wah wah you dope. Every guitar player who plugs in is relying on technology.

  • @mattressjedi True but Hendrix could play clean and still blow peoples minds. I'd like to hear The Edge try to do the same thing. He's reliant on technology just like he's reliant on Bono just like Bono is reliant on his stupid sunglasses. Now, U2 wrote some good songs, I don't want to take that away from them, but the fact that The Edge is mentioned in the same breath as Jimmy Page, or Jimi Hendrix is astounding.

  • @marklarvickar not really. Edge is great because, get it, he knows he's not technically on the same level as them. he works for playing the guitar in a way that no ones ever seen before and strives to achieve sounds out of his guitar that people haven't heard before. There's also an old saying that goes something like "if you can't beat the champ at his own game, change the game" and that's exactly what both Edge and U2 do. It's why I love them, and why I love any good music.

  • @JonesyLedZeppelin Id hesitate to call U2's sound original. They took the same elements most new wave bands were using, ex rhythmic guitar delay, chorus/phaser effects, tight compressed drum sounds, lots of reverb, etc. Their sound, in all its incarnations, has always been radio friendly and stuck to a pretty standard pop format. they did write some good songs, to be fair, Im just sick of people putting the edge on a pedestal because he was popular. Popularity does not= talent (Twilight anyone?)

  • @marklarvickar Yeah but there is a certain colour to his sound which is completely unique.

    There are a variety of components that contribute to it even the way he uses his guitar pick.I'm sure that sounds ridiculous and nitpicky but it's actually a deal breaker in recreating his sound.

    You say people put him on a pedestal but i don't think he gets enough credit whereas somebody like Slash who hasn't got a single original idea in his head is often considered a deity!

  • @TheFutureadvocate I mean, theres really no arguing with tastes, all Im saying is I subscribe to the musical philosophy that the mark of a great guitarist isn't the way their guitar sounds but the way they play it. Think of it this way, you could not have Led Zeppelin without Jimmy Page, you could not have The White Stripes/ Raconteurs without Jack White. If you put The Edge's guitar and rig in the hands of a halfway decent player and put a skull cap on him, you wouldn't even know he'd gone.

  • @marklarvickar Sorry you're wrong...cause you don't realize how long the man spends,countless hours..days,weeks,years coming up with different sounds...creating guitar parts using effects....easy to say that now given the advancement of technology but this guy was doing this over 20 years ago..figuring out all these sounds himself....everybody says they know how to do what he does now after the fact....so why didn't they do it if it was so easy?....the answer is because it wasn't that easy

  • @marklarvickar why don't you listen to the solo in "U2- Street Mission" the solo in U2 - The Fool"

    both those songs recorded back in 1978 and tell me whether or not he can play clean

    Then listen to the jam he did with Dave Matthews Band on their song "Smooth Rider" at Jazzfest a few years back

  • @mattressjedi err no. Jimi Hendrix USED wah. He didn't RELY on it. There are absolutely inumerable examples of his exceptional guitar playing without using wah. To compare Edge's reliance on effects to Hendrix's use of them shows a complete lack of knowledge about guitar playing. Edge plays beginners shit and then cakes on loads of effects until it sounds "good". Take away his pedals which do the work for him and his shitness would be abundantly clear. There is no talent in what he does.

  • @nomis101uk you are a complete ignorant slob. The Edge does not play "beginner's shit", are you kidding me!?? If it's so damn easy, buy the effects yourself and make a few VIDS of playing how EASY these songs are. I'd personally love to see you do it. It's unreal how many uneducated people there are on here. Hendrix was amazing without a wah, but he colored his sound a lot with effects, Octavia, Arbiter Fuzz and Wah. The Edge and Andy Summers took effects to a whole new level.

  • @mattressjedi Jimi Hendrix could play incredibly without a wah pedal you prick. You sound like someone who has heard about three Jimi Hendrix songs in your life.

  • @mattressjedi I wouldn't even call it a reliance here either, Edge CHOOSES to play with pedals because he likes the way it SOUNDS! He could just as easily play every riff he's made and it would just sound plain. The effects take his 3 piece band to a new level. You don't hear anyone saying this stuff about Mike Einziger/Incubus, Tim Mahoney/311 or Andy Summers/The Police. Those guys have HUGE pedal boards because they are true individuals and don't prescribe to cheap blues licks.

  • @mattressjedi Most people are about how he overdoes it on the technology which is completely understandable.

  • just two simple notes, ghe makes a fucking great U2 single

  • wow, that was awful. good thing he bought all those effects with all that cash island records gave them.

  • haha, dat little dance at the end,...

  • lol i love the edge. hes a technical genius, people say "oh he cant play!" but its not true. hes just more caring about the emotion of the sound, the effects

  • what effects is he using?

  • @blackbeltbrown lol, ALL OF THEM

  • It's not about the amp or the effects but the final product. That's like saying that you love green paint on canvas but hate when people mix blue and yellow. He may not be a technical guitar virtuoso riff shredder but he's definitely a musician.

  • LMAO!!

  • They shouldve gotten Alex Lifeson to do this movie instead. Way better in my opinion. And way more influential. The Edge wishes he was Lifeson.

  • @Codackussell

    So true.

  • Edge rules! So versatile and always playing with new sounds. His solo on Bullet The Blue Sky is amazing for those who haven't heard. He can shred too....

  • ... well at least he is honest

  • Some people might say he is isn't a great guitarist, but I think he is one of the few people who have actually got it right. This isn't about playing the guitar, its about making music. Rather than getting lost in the idea of "playing the guitar" like many people do now, his innovation with effects has allowed him to "make the music" he hears inside of him and that is really all that matters. You don't have to be a technical virtuoso to be considered great.

    Rock on The Edge!

  • @BLUEScrazy I totally agree! That's why Edge deserves a good place in this documentary. Many people don't see this in Edge, but he is just the best musician I've ever known!

  • @BLUEScrazy

    kinda like

    how great hiphop deteriorated to shitty auto tune?

    shut the fuck up

  • @thuymoney The Edge gets the sound HE wants out of his effects. The hip hop industry uses effects to make things sound commercial. The Edge thinks about the music; all the hip hop people you speak of think about is the money. I don't have to know The Edge to realize that; people can tell with their ears. Obviously you can't and you're not worth my time or any fan of U2's.

  • You have completely changed my mind about this man, and for that, you are thanked.

  • @BLUEScrazy indeed!...playing the guitar isnt just about raw skill...the edge is a master of utilizing the benefits of the technology hes capable of using on his guitar...in the end...he makes some amazing sounds despite how "simple" it is

  • @BLUEScrazy Playing guitar, is making music, music is art, and the only way to express a feeling is by the art... and he is one of the last musicians who know how to really express a feeling...

  • @BLUEScrazy u fail so badly....im sorry just my opinion. but your answer is uneducated as a musician and as a listener

  • @millsenator i have been playing the guitar and performing for about 8 years now, and am currently a music major in university; i'd like to think im educated enough. To take your stance is to assume music can only be created in a certain way, whether it be through technical prowess, unaltered signals etc... this is severely limiting musically. Also, if what he plays wasn't good ppl wouldnt listen to U2. Sry, but IMO you are the one who fails.

  • @millsenator how is his answer uneducated? I myself play guitar and happen to agree with him/her. Being a great guitarist doesn't consist of fast licks, fast solos, or being very technical. I have always lived with the mentality as a musician that it takes practice to play fast, but it takes talent to make music.

  • @BLUEScrazy Actually its what its all about, not showing what you can do with the guitar, but creating music. And all these moders shredders, they think they are awesome coz they can play very fast, but thei usually sound awefull, being able to type 100 words per minute doesnt mean that that will be interesting to read :) So i totally agree with BLUEScrazy :) Cheers man.

  • @BLUEScrazy You really better be trolling. That's two notes.

  • @ThomasB5a Strictly speaking there's 3 notes. Also, they're 3 notes sent through a highly complex signal chain where the EXACT sound and feel desired is achieved; something that can only be done after years of experimentation. You're the first person to think im actually trolling so i honestly dont know what's up with that. but whatever you can think what you want.

  • @BLUEScrazy Pedals are a tool, not the music itself. The Edge doesn't even know half of his pedals anyway, he has different combinations preprogrammed into a board and it just says the song name. I completely agree that we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I'd just really hope that when people see a famous man with the audacity to call himself the Edge playing a riff a five year old thinks about within a month of playing the instrument there'd be some questions raised.

  • @ThomasB5a I agree with you that pedals aren't the music, but that's because i never said they were. When you look at fine woodwork you praise the carpenter and not the hammer used, and here it's no different. He also has to make his own presets; they dont just appear on his board for his convenience. Again you are entitled to your opinion, but I believe that a song's true worth is judged by the statement it makes, not by how hard it is to play; and that's my answer to the question raised.

  • @BLUEScrazy I realize there's no potential for me to change your opinion, nor should it be my goal. I'm just concerned with the state of popular music in general when it's become so complacent. I'm a purist to the extent that I value a person's allocation of chord tones being distributed into a harmony. Of course, this comes from jazz study so I'm a bit biased. It's just frustrating to see so much potential in something like a pedal arrangement and then realize the innovation stops there.

  • @ThomasB5a popular music is complacent because acts have become a money making effort rather than free expression. I believe if The Edge wanted to be popular he would've started shredding in 4 chord songs. thus i think he does deserve credit for pioneering his sound and sticking with what he wants to do. I take it you're not a fan of 20th century minimalism then, i dont know but I feel there's something bold about challenging the musician's idea of what qualifies as music (innovative in itself).

  • @BLUEScrazy I didn't mean to give that impression. I'm a huge fan of the Pixies and Velvet Underground for their minimalism, but U2's a bit excessive to be considered that. I just mean there's a basic lack of creativity and some arrogance involved with leaning on a perfect fifth and calling it unique. I like the idea of working with as little as possible, but not when it inhibits actual creativity. Anyway, I just came here to check out the AC30. I hope I haven't offended you.

  • @ThomasB5a fair enough if you feel that way, but at least i don't think he was trying to be arrogant; i mean, he was sort of mocking the idea that the riff was overtly simple. I wouldn't say the riff itself is unique either, though i like the idea of using anything, including a simple perfect fifth, to create. I also think some guitarists get arrogant in their excessive tehnique too (yngwie). dw you haven't offended anyone; i like having musical discussion when it doesn't lead to insults :)

  • @ThomasB5a the art is setting the delay to create the riff, or the riff around the delay, its a chicken egg scenario in my opinion.the name "the edge" was given to him by the band and it apparently refers to his distinguished chin profile!! i believe its a form of self mockery to still go by that monica after all this time

  • @ThomasB5a as for a five year old playing the riff, it realy doesnt matter, the object of the excercise is to move the listener on an emotional level towards joy, sadness, excitement etc, not be diffecult to perform.its pop music.ive studied drums and guitar to a reasonably high standard for 20 years and now realise that its that simple sound that counts! does it engage the listener? i believe u2s back catalogue achieve that