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[Mrsbabyblue2009]

I am not Muslim, I do not wear hijab,obviously, but what is wrong with it? After all in history in every religion women covered their hair.Jewish women do it still,just in a different way. In Russian Orthodox church women have to cover their hair entering the church,Christian women had to do it and still do in many countries!!! People wake up!! Hijab nor the religion isn't a problem,just stupidity and ignorance are,lack of knowledge on the subject is the major issue,that should be addressed.

[LadyD1sdain]

well said sister :D

[ALGERIANKABYLE]

Mash'Allah . Long life to Islam .

[kamalvahrott]

AS PER GENERAL ., if u feel difficult as a muslim, better change ur deen but plz dont DISPLAY that bcoz of ISLAM ur life as a women is tough.,EVRY MUSLIM'S LIFE IS TOUGH IF HE IS A PRACTICING MUSLIM BUT IF HE/SHE UNDERSTAND HER DEEN IN RIGHT WAY, ITS REALLY EASY ALHAMDULILLAH,, THRU THE ISLAMIC HISTORY THERE HAV BEEN MILLIONS SACRIFICES TO KEEP THIS DEEN HIGH, IF U WANT THINGS TO B EASY AS U WANT , FOLLOW UR WILL, OF COURSE WE DO LOTS OF SACRIFICE TO FOLLOW ALLAH'S WILL.THATS ISLAM .

[kheir03]

This question is to anyont that lives in France:

Are Catholic Nuns forbidden from wearing their Habit?? How about Jewish women??

[TheNusaybahProject]

<---click and view two videos on the Hijab

[scoterf]

Dont muslims ever feel like hypocrits when talking about tolerance?

You cant even begin to compare islamic tolerance and western tolerance.

[QuranTafseer]

@scoterf lol then be tolerant towards people and show us muslims up ha :)

[scoterf]

@QuranTafseer i all ready do, i tolerate muslims in my country despite them being against freedom of speach for example.

when non muslims goto a muslim country they are expected to adapt to fit the country, why cant muslims do the same here?

[murderedboy]

@scoterf the difference is that the west advertises itself on the basis of tolerance, the muslim world does not.

This is not how I personally view Islam but it's the way it is. This is why it is not hypocritical.

[scoterf]

@murderedboy Yes i agree to a certain point but havent u heard the constant "islam is a peacefull and tolerant religion"?

[murderedboy]

@scoterf Religion and the practitioner of a religion are two completely different things. It's very sad, but now that I live in the west, it seems more Islamic to me, with obvious exceptions (which aren't really related to this discussion), then the muslim countries. Especially on this issue of tolerance, I look back at some of the countries and think what happened to their religion.

[scoterf]

@murderedboy Well under islamic rule we would be relegated to dhimi status, so wether dictatorship or under islamic rule islam is still not very tolerant.

[welovetruth]

Muslims are active citizens in building human civilization

[amuslima99]

We are not FORCED TO WEAR HIJAB-IT'S OUR CHOICE. I am a convert to Islam for over 30 years. I come from Non-Muslim paretnts. I was not forced by them or anyone else to wear hijab. Why is it so difficult for people to believe that some women wish to cover their heads and bodies. Why is that so hard to comprehend. It's amazing to me. Why do some people feel showing the form of your body is the ultimate way to be in this society? Every women should aspire to want to look this way? UNBELIEVABLE!

[993ironman]

@leafyutube Btw, i understand what your saying. This has to change i agree. But when the convert's (non-muslim) are turning to Islam, they made that choice themselves, no one forced them to wear that hijab under the circumstances they were never Muslim before and the fact that they live in a secular society.

[amuslima99]

Are the Catholic Nuns who cover their heads and body, as criticized as muslim women wearing the Hijab?

[amuslima99]

@leafyutube That's why. It's not about our attractiveness, it's about our character and we love wearing a scarf=Hijab. O.K.? If it's backwardness that you describe it "leafy" dear, so be it. That's great! It was the way of women in and before Biblical times and modesty is never out of style. Wer'e not wearing hijab for the approval of others.Peace!

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

I DONT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE CHRISTIANS BUT FOR MUSLIMS, WE DONT FOLLOW ANYTHING BLINDLEY.

WE BELIEVE IN LOGIC, PHILOSOPHY, SCIENCE, MATHEMATICS, TECHNOLOGY.

YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO KNOW BUT WE INVENTED ALGEBRA, AND THE CONCEPT OF ZERO, AND MADE MANY INVENTION AND DISCOVERIES.

I SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE MUSLIMS AND HOW WE HELPED SHAPE THE MODERN WORLD.

ALSO I BELIEVE IN THIS RELIGION BECAUSE IT SHOWS US LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE.

READ THE QURAN, ITS INTRESTING.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 No doubt the Muslim world had create some revolutionizing achievements, but whats done is done. Also, what you listed was done by the Arabs, who were Muslims. Being Muslim did not give them a boost in brain power to create those things, they just acquired more knowledge. Many Christians invented things in Europe, but we don't equate them with being Christian inventions. Likewise, Algebra was an Arab invention.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

SO WHEN A MUSLIM COMMITS AN ACT OF TERRORISM, YOU LIKE IT WITH HIS RELIGION, BUT WHEN HE DOES SOMETHING GOOD YOU DONT. VERY INTERESTING.



[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 If a Muslim does an act of terrorism based on his religious values, like the 7/7 bombings or the Mumbai terror attacks, then yes its Islamic terrorism because he is using God as his scapegoat. If a Muslim just kills other than religious values, than its not Islamic terrorism, its just terrorism.

Same goes with any religion. The Kahanis are notorious Jewish sect which has been witness commiting extremist values.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

You make a good point. my complaint is with the media are only too happy to be judge and jury.

The media is a tool of the zionists and dont give a balanced argument regarding Islam and muslims. I am talking about the bbc, sky news, fox news, the sun, the mirror.

These people are a disgrace to their profession.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Just because the media seems to antagonize the Muslims today doesn't make them a Zionist media. You keep on acquainting your problems with Jews or Zionists. I stated earlier that in the United States, when the Irish, Italians, Jews, and Russians started to immigrate here, the media anatomized them as worthless rodents because as humans, we are afraid of change. So just because nowadays we label Muslims as evil, its just history repeating itself, nothing more.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

No this is different. even before 9/11, more than 50,000 books had been written against Islam.

This is nothing new and it is nothing isolated.

Dont forget the crusades.

Dont forget the invasions of Muslim countries.

Israel did not get created over night.

The media is also currently building up a war against Iran.

They may also go after other countries like Pakistan.

Threats have already been made to syria and lebanon.

The media has made a vital contribution to all this.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 People always have prejudice minds.. Their had been countless articles in the 1930's in the United States blaming their economic problems on the immigrants.

And what about the Crusades? Did you forget the Arabs invaded Spain? I don't think the Arabs defensibly went to Europe. Didn't Turkey belong to the Christians or Byzantines at some point? Didn't the Arabs conquer as well?

What about the Arab slave trade? What was that about?

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY AND THAT IS A BIG TOPIC.

YOU COULD TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE POINTS FOR HOURS, BUT I WONT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE LETS SAY THEY ARE ALL TRUE. DOES THAT MEAN THE AMERICA, BRITIAN AND ISRAEL CAN COMIT WAR CRIMES. THAT THEY CAN INVADE AND THREATEN TO INVADE MUSLIM COUNTRIES BASED ON LIES.

CAN THEY KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN. CAN THEY TAKE PART IN RENDITION, TORTURE, THEFT, RAPE, GENOCIDE.

NO THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO.

WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, NOT TERRORISTS. THEY LIE.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 The war on Iran is a might or might not happen situation. Their is a lot of tension between the two countries. Though, whats Ironic is that most of the ARAB states in the middle east would support the war in Iran because Iranians are predominately Shiites where the Arab states are more Sunnis. They despise Shiites because they allocate them with being heretics and non-Muslims.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

THE FEELING AMONGST MUSLIMS AND MUSLIM COUNTRIES IS THAT BRITIAN, AMERICA AND ISRAEL ARE TERRORIST STATES.

WE WANT FREEDOM FOR OUR COUNTRIES. THEY NEED TO GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR COUNTRIES.

FREE FREE PALASTINE.

FREEDOM FOR CHECHNYA.

FREEDOM FOR AFGHANISTAN.

FREEDOM FOR IRAQ.

FREEDOM FOR KASHMIR

"THE WAR IN IRAN IS A MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT". WELL IT BETTER BE A NOT, THEY ARE PUSHING FOR A WORLD WAR 3.

AND MY ORIGINAL POINT IS THAT THE MEDIA ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Palestine is to much of a controversial issue to begin with. Every time they open the border to the Gazans, something bad happens. For example the Munich games in the 1970's. Palestine is run by Hamas and they will never accept Israel as a Jewish state. There should be a one state solution between the two nations, however, Hamas will never accept it. They want a strict Islamic government to rule the whole land and they want complete power.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

Palastinians want their country back.

They want the right to live as free human beings in their own country.

The right to cross the street without having to show i.d.

They want the wall that Israel is building to be torn down.

They want israeli soldiers to stop shooting children in the head.

They want food and water.

they want the land that the Israelis have stolen and are stealing everyday back.

they want an end to the siege.

ARE THEY REALLY ASKING FOR TOO MUCH.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 You are right, the Palestinians have the right to live freely in their own home.

However, Hamas runs all of Palestine currently, and have you read the Hamas charter? It says that its their plan to wipe of Israel and put a Islamic government of all of Israel and Palestine. Now do you think any Jewish or Christian person will agree to this?(There are many Christians that live among the Palestinians)

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 I don't think you know anything about Chechnya in the first place. They keep blowing up buildings and causing too much trouble. Chechnya belongs to Russia whether they like it or not, their not yet independent. What are you talking about Kashmir needs to be free. India, Pakistan, and China all have lands in Kashmir and they all want it.

But if you believe the oppressors should leave the oppressed's land then certainly we can agree on the following.......

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

China is not fighting for Kashmir.

The kashmiri people them self want freedom to choose their own future.

Many atrocities have been going on in kashmir for years. I know im a Kashmiri myself.

ISRAEL NEEDS TO GET THE HELL OUT OF PALASTINE. THOSE THIEVES AND MURDERERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLE LAND.

MAY DEATH COME TO ZIONISM.

MAY THE ZIONIST MEDIA BE HUMILIATED AND DESTROYED.

MAY THE BANKERS AND POLITICIANS WHO HAVE ROBBED US BURN IN HELL.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 To first answer your question, Kashmir has partial land that belongs to China. Though, China is so busy with everything else, that land seems pointless to make an issue off. Kashmir itself is divided. You said that the Kashmir people want freedom, but keep in mind they are mostly Muslims. Their are also Hindus and Sikhs that live their and they want their own independent state. India and Pakistan both want their greedy hands on it. I know many Hindus that are from Kashmir.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

That land belongs to the Muslims. I will say again i believe in the right of kashmiris to choose their own future.

Let them decide if they want to be part of Pakistan or India or Independent from both.

This is the fairest option.

The people of kashmir have suffered too long at the hands of the Indian soldiers. Murder, Rape and a very humiliating occupation.

ANOTHER MESS WHICH THE BRITISH WERE ORIGINALY RESPONSIBLE FOR.

BUT I GUESS YOUR NOT GOING TO BLAME THE BRITISH FOR ANYTHING.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 The Muslims in Kashmir want their own Muslim state, the Hindus want their own state or be part of India, and the Sikhs want their own Punjab state. No one wins. If we give authority to the Muslims, their will be Civil war, the same goes for the Hindus and Sikhs.

Second, Pakistan has been causing just as much evil, if not worse, than India.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Now your chanting death to Zionism but Zionism is nothing more than a political ideology just like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. What Israel does may be sometimes unjustified, but their actions are always being recorded. Your saying that west has always been anti-Islam and favors killing of Muslims.

Remember the Bosnian genocide? Who were the first to send aid to the millions of butchered Muslims? Israel was. Who tried all those Serbian killers? The west.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

The serbs were Christians who killed Muslims. So one group of Christians kill us and another saves us. Big deal.

Plus this was happening in Europe too close to home. I will be impressed if they stop the killing by Israel.They wont. Infact they support the killing of Muslims over there.

May death also come to the Freemasons, the illuminate or whatever else they call them self. The new world order will fail.

VICTORY TO ISLAM. THEN WE MIGHT HAVE PEACE.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 If you keep chanting Victory to Islam, no one will have peace. Just like if I Said "Victory to the Jews" It won't bring peace. The Serbs were barely Christian because they used to burn down Chapels. The reason why the Serbs called it a holy war was because the Bosnians kept calling the Serbs Christian Crusaders. The West doesn't label themselves as a Christian country, because the Western Ideology goes against Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Saudi Arabia must stop flying Jets into Yemen and killing Shiites.

Turkey must stop causing problems with the Kurds. They keep sending their army to harass them.

Tell the Sunnis in Iraq to stop blowing up Shiite mosques.

You see, those countries which you gave me that are being oppressed are doing the exact same to other people. Open your eyes, their is no such thing as Saints.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

America should stop support saudi arabia.

I hope Turkey and the Kurds solve their problems.

The sunni, shia problem is being caused by the Americans divide and conqure.

The Kashmiri people are suffering, they have a right of self determination.

what i now about chechnya is that hundreds of thousands of people have been massacred. I want to make it clear that the Muslims are not perfect, but we do believe our religion is perfect.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 The very belief of your religion being perfect is what causes Islamic extremism. Look at all those radical nut jobs that are living in the UK. For example, search up Anjem Choudary, Abu Izzaddeen, Abu Waleed, and many more. They support the killing of innocent people just because they are non-Muslims. They believe they are superior because God made them Muslims.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16 Every person that follows a religion believes it is perfect, or they should not believe in it,

Christians believe in christianity. jews believe in judaism. etc.

If they dont believe it is divinely inspired then they are fools for following it.

you talk about clowns like Anjem choudrary and others, well you people must love them so much. you show them on t.v all the time as if their opinion matters. What if al jazeera showed the kkk and said this is the view of most christians.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 You are right about people should believe their religion is perfect. But thats the problem of the world today. Everyone says their religion is superior than others, and this will never bring peace.

We don't show Anjem Choudary 24.7, he shows himself by chanting death to democracy and so on. He is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen and I barely see Muslims go out in public and condemn him.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 About the Sunni and Shia conflict, blaming the United States for the problem is pretty ignorant in the first place. For one, they have been fighting for centuries in places like Mesopotamia. Even if the U.S might have been involved in a proxy war, saying that they are causing them to kill each other is dumb. The U.S has already left Iraq, and were still seeing people blowing each other's mosques.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

The u.s has not left iraq.

The main conflict right now is jihad against the invading crusaders.

And yes there may be other problems too, caused by the invasion.

Show me the weapons of mass destruction and i will shut up about Iraq.

Also 9/11 was probabley an inside job.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 You are right about 9/11 being an inside Job, well your belief about it. Their is a lot of evidence that goes against 9/11.

As for your theory on the Crusaders invaded Iraq. This is really funny. Can you define what a Crusader means? The Americans aren't Crusaders because their not Christian warriors, just American. When I meant the U.S has left Iraq, I meant that most of their forces have gone to Afghanistan. Their is only little infantry troops their to help the Iraqis.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

Mate if you really cared about the muslims, then you would not say a single word in support of that evil country Israhell.

zionism will be defeated soon, the way the nazis were defeated.

inshallah.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 You can say what you can say about Israel, but I an assure you that you have never been there. I might not agree with what Israel does, but whats done is done. Saudi Arabia was created illegally according to your definition. Israel is their whether you like it or not, and it will keep staying their no matter how much you curse them, just as much as the Kurds curse the Turkish.

Time will pass and people will forget about the past and soon learn to live together.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Oh, and I do suggest you read the Talmud, the Torah, the Hindu scriptures, the Parsi scriptures, Aristotle's published work, Plato's published work, Charles Darwin's work, etc etc etc.

I have read the Quran and I am not amazed with anything but just the same as any religious text. So I strongly suggest to you to read other work and open your mind, because it seems your stuck in a nutshell.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

WHICH TRANSLATION OF THE QURAN DID YOU READ.

I HOPE YOU DID NOT READ ONE WRITTEN BY A CHRISTIAN.

I RECOMMEND THE WIDELY READ ABDULLAH YUSUF ALIS TRANSLATION.

IF IT WAS BY A MUSLIM THEN I SUGGEST READING IT AGAIN WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND HAVE AN OPEN MIND.

THANKS.

CAN I JUST ASK YOU KNOW WHAT MY BELIEF IS, WHAT IS YOUR BELIEF. DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD FOR EXAMPLE.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 I have read Yusuf Ali's translation. Why don't you read other religious scripts like the Torah? Have you read the Torah with an open mind. You keep preaching that everyone should read the Qur'an, but why don't you read the Torah? What's wrong with that?

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

I WILL READ THE TORAH.

NO PROBLEM WITH INCREASING KNOWLEDGE.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

AMAZING YOU MUST BE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO AGREES WITH EVERY SINGLE LAW OF THE COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN. GOOD FOR YOU. LOL.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 I don't, but she doesn't believe in religious freedom or free speech. She constantly keeps criticizing her own country and cry's "Islam is the only solution!" She believes Democracy is incompatible with Islam because those two never go together. She can kindly leave England and go live in Saudi Arabia where her dream state comes true and she can be at peace. In England, people work hard and pay taxes to better the country, not hear the destruction and replacement of it.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

I CANT SPEAK FOR HER BUT LET ME TELL YOU MY VIEW ON THIS.

I LOVE THIS COUNTRY. I LOVE MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE. THE WEATHER COULD BE BETTER, BUT YOU CANT HAVE EVERYTHING.

BUT BECAUSE I LOVE THIS COUNTRY, I WANT THE BEST FOR IT.

SO WHAT I WANT IS TO KEEP OUR FREEDOMS AND HUMAN RIGHTS, AND NOT LET THE POLITICIANS TAKE THEM AWAY.

I WANT TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, AND NOT TAKE PART IN THIS ILLEGAL WAR, WHICH HAS COST THE LIVES OF OUR SOLDIERS AND COST THE TAX PAYERS BILLIONS...

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16 ...CONTINUED.. THE WAR IS ONLY HAPPENING SO THE RICH CAN GET RICHER. IF YOU DONT, BELIEVE ME FIND OUT WHICH COMPANIES BENIFITED FROM THE WARS.

I AM A MUSLIM AND BELIEVE THAT ISLAM IS THE TRUE RELIGION, HOWEVER SOME CHRISTIANS ARE SCARED THAT SHARIAH LAW WILL BE FORCED ON THEM. THIS IS RIDICULOUS, WE ARE A VERY SAME MINORITY, EVEN IF WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE SHARIAH IN UK, WE COULD NOT ENFORCE IT ON THE MAJORITY.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

I HAVE NOTICED THAT WHENEVER I DEBATE WITH A CHRISTIAN, ESPECIALLY THE ONES FILLED WITH HATE, THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM. THEY ONLY KNOW WHAT THE ZIONIST MEDIA HAS TOLD THEM.

CHRISTIANS DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, SO IM NOT REALLY SURPRISED THEY UNDERSTAND EVEN LESS ABOUT ISLAM.

IVE GOT SOME ADVICE WHICH I GIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, STOP WATCHING SKY NEWS, AND READING PAPERS LIKE THE SUN. THAT IS IF YOU WANT AN OPEN MIND AND RATHER HEAR THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 and not action. You say you debate Christians, but why don't you go to a Priest or talk to a Jewish Rabbi instead of its people. I guarantee you he will answer your questions with his own view on religious text just like yours. Its easy to debate with Christians because Christians have debated their own text for some time now. Though when we use our freedom of speech to debate Islam, we see death threats, harsh fatwa rulings, etc. You label the media as Zionists but I...

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

I HAVE DEBATED PRIESTS AND PROPER CHRISTIANS. THIS IS MORE ENJOYABLE.

I DONT DEBATE LAZY CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW OR BELIEVE ANYTHING.

WE THE MUSLIMS LOVE TO DEBATE. AND WE BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

WHAT WE DONT BELIEVE IS THE RIGHT TO OFFEND AND PROVOKE.

WE CANT JUST SAY ANY FILTH AND INSULTS THAT COMES OUT OF OUR MOUTHS.

IF I SAY SOMETHING HORRIBLE ABOUT YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER AND SAY THIS IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, YOU WILL GET ANGRY AND YOU WOULD BE JUSTIFIED .

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Debate logical orthodox Rabbis, that is something I would like to hear about because I know for a fact that you cannot prove the Jewish faith wrong.

Second, You don't believe in Freedom of Speech if you cannot handle criticism. Why is it for a fact that every time the Saudi government gets criticized from its own people, their citizens are harassed.

Aren't you obliged as a Muslim to spread your religion and call the end of man made law(Democracy)?

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 Isn't it your job to make sure Sharia law is the dominant law of the land according to your faith. You are forbidden from taking part in the British government due to the fact that its Kuffar law and it goes against Islam? So yes you are sinning by living in the UK and not calling for the end of democracy and making sure your God's law is dominant.

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

WOW. YOU ARE GOING TO TEACH ME WHAT MY RELIGION SAYS OR DOES NOT SAY.

MY RELIGION SAYS BE PART OF SOCIETY, BE ACTIVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.

AS LONG AS I AM ABLE TO WORSHIP MY GOD AND FOLLOW MY RELIGION, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM.

ARE YOU AN ATHEIST OR A WEAK CHRISTIAN WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN IMPLIMENTING GODS LAW IN THE WORLD.

AND WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO CALL THIS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. SURELY IT IS ANYTHING BUT A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 I can give you many sources where Sheikhs give rulings that Muslims must not participate in any form of government unless its run by 100% complete Islamic law.

England is called a Christian country because majority of the population is Christian. Just like Pakistan is a Muslim country, even though they don't operate on Islamic law.

Your not even allowed to vote according to Islam because thats supporting non-Muslims who can make unlawful to lawful, am I right?

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

THAT IS DEBATABLE. IF WE CAN PARTICIPATE OR NOT, BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN BECAUSE OUR RELIGION TEACHES US TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO SHUT UP AND STAY OUT THE WAY. THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT US.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE CALLED A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, BUT MY POINT IS THAT A LOT OF SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DONT BELIEVE IN CHRIST. WHICH MAKES NO SENSE.

YOU WONT HERE A MUSLIM SAY, I AM A MUSLIM, BUT I DONT REALLY BELIEVE IN ISLAM.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 If a Christian says he or she doesn't believe in Christ, than he wouldn't be a Christian in the first place. Their is a lot of people turning to agnosticism in the modern world because of heavy theories that go against what organized religion brands as the "World Creation." In fact, in the West today, more in the United States, I see a lot of Muslims stop practicing their religion because of to much skepticism of their own religion.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 To some organized Islamic groups, more in the UK, their is a lot of movements by Muslims saying that Democracy is not Islamic, due to the fact its Rule of the people instead of God. According to the Sharia Law, authority belongs to the Muslims. So if you believe your following what God has instructed by participating in your government, you might be seen as a non-Muslim to other Muslims.

[groundboy16]

@libertyjusticeforal1 you know what they are just because they don't agree with you. In the United States, when the Jews and Italians started immigrating here, the media played a wicked role labeling them as antagonists. Did the Zionist media have any influence on that? This is just history repeating itself because we are afraid of change. Is it true that Islam and democracy don't go together because Islam states that the rule of the people is unlawful? Aren't you committing sin by living here?

[libertyjusticeforal1]

@groundboy16

AM I COMMITTING A SIN BY LIVING HERE. LOL.

NO IM NOT.

WE DO BELIEVE IN GOD, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO LIVE BY HIS LAWS.

IN ENGLAND WE CAN WORSHIP OUR GOD AND PRAY IN OUR MOSQUES. WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS, ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CAUSE THEM.

ISLAM AND DEMOCRACY ARE NOT 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

IN ISLAM SOME THINGS ARE DEMOCRATIC. AND IN DEMOCRACY WE CAN FIND THINGS THAT ARE ISLAMIC.

THE MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS. I WAS BORN HERE, AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM.

[kamarudeeno]

A very inteligent muslima. Mashallah!!

[anneeq008]

mashallah a beautiful muslima and a very shrewd fighter for inter faith dialogue. Its not easy to change ur way of life, the way ur parents brought u up and wear hijaab when its totally alien to ur community, enough repct for her!!

[azamkini]

west talk about freedom and banning people what they want to wear...

they always hypocrite arent they?

[MatrixOfDynamism]

@azamkini most of the time yes. They will allow freedom of speach even if it against them as long as their monopoly is not threatened. Else they will probably kill anyone that wants to reveal any thing that is against their interests.

[HIMAZZZ1991]

@MatrixOfDynamism my answer to this is simple ,NO! i'm gonna provide u one example,look at islamic history u'll find the imam Al Shaf'y debated over 50 atheists in the islamic capital of that time "damascus"

[zafthedon]

Yes intolernat actions of the west - with your logic i could say anti semetism doesnt exist - you see the muslims have a problem with the "west" putting its values on the muslim world such as Iraq and Afganistan and even Turkey - The west is obbsessed of putting its values on the world - if you dont expect a reaction you must be a sleep. You have a problem with the muslim world beacsue the muslims are reacting to your oppression in iraq and mnay other places. You just drop bombs on innocents.

[sairawaraich]

Do you realise that Sarah Joseph is English? Are you suggesting that she should leave her own country, where the freedom of expression and religion is supposedly upheld?

[blackbeltedninja]

we don't want to change your beliefs. we just want to deliver a message. if you accept Islam that is great. if not then that is your choice. Nobody wants to implement Shariah in any Western country. We want to implement it in our countries.

Muslims should respect democracy if they choose to live in Western countries.

[fatima130784]

i dont think so, i am muslim and keep english tradions.well whats lets of them.we as muslim may not get drunk or do drugs or sleep with people before marriage ect does not mean we dont hold value or civilsation....

[MatrixOfDynamism]

@fatima130784 english tradtions???

[marufcanada]

May Allah give her the to show the right path to other

[Athaleth3ashar]

Mashaa Allah

May Allah bless her

Sarah Joseph , British Muslim

writer and editor of Emel magazine