Aluminium should be said Aluminium as the British say it because their was a gathering a year or two back (after this video) where Physicists and Chemists who spoke English met and decided on many words including Aluminium and a some words were decided to be the Americanisms and some the British-isms, Aluminium was decided to be called how the British say it!!!
I'm British... yh yh yh god save the queen cheerio etc... but........... We are a country who thought they were the best... thats why we say things different to what they are spelt... or ad a U in the word.... Its cos we thought we were the best and we have a right to change the word. :L we controlled half the world at one pint... who can blame us :P
@TheMagicBolt Originally it was spelt "lufu", the "f" saidlike a "v". The final "u" sound fell away. However, in English we have a kind of prohibition on "v" ending a word e.g. "dove", "above", etc. Thus, the "e" ends it to prevent the spelling being "uncouth". Idiotic, I know, but there we are. Furthermore, "u" before certain other letters was changed to "o" because in the old scribal handwriting, all the letters would blend together. That's why we write "monk" "dove" "love" etc but SAY "munk"
the thing is...there are sooooo many American accents...some areas of the USA say route like ''rowt'' what you refered as british? and it's only certain parts of America that say it like ''root'' where i am from we say route like ''root'' i am from north eastern USA.
I say route like "root" (I'm American). You can say it either way. People in New England tend to use more British terms. For example, cellar vs basement. In the USA you can say either, but in New England cellar is more common. And in New England they tend to say "bill" not "check" at a restaurant (either is correct). You can also say autumn or fall here, but fall is more common (by the way, "fall" is originally from England). Just some information :)
There are very deep accents in The South of America that make it hard for US to understand each other. We tend to talk slow and "role" our vowels. We also, run our words together. If you ever listen to an American Southerner , your hearing elements of both Scottish and Irish dialects combined with English. And if you've lived down South long enough you can tell where someone is from by the way they speak. I think that dialects are dyeing out due to TV and Internet influences .
There is no such word as pronOUnciation as you say in your video. The word is 'pronUnciation'. Your story about aluminium is totally false. Perhaps a few days back in uni would do you some good, son? Your other comment about the way you speak and 'so what?' totally negates the need for your video. The words 'and' and 'but' are both conjunctions and therefore should NEVER be used to begin sentences. I guess your degree was a distance learning course, or from somewhere like Stoke, son. Good try.
Yes as I said "pronounciation" is completely non-standard. Who's denying that? But it happens to be fairly widespread. I don't think it's desirable for us all to be clones who say everything the same. Indeed, the fact that you cleave so rigidly to apparent prescriptivist views is a sign in and of itself that you clearly did not grasp the underlying fundamental point of the video, i.e., that all language change at all times, and that this process is natural, unstoppable, and not at all bad.
Where did you get your information from? Almost all of your research is incorrect. There is no such word as pronounciation, try dropping the second 'o' and you will be correct. Your ideas about Farnshaw are very misleading too. Stop saying pronounciation! TOSSER!
Nice video! Im from Minnesota and we have towns like Ely, New Prague, etc. and people that arent from here and even people that ARE from around here but have never been there, etc. they would prob pronounce them as "ee-lie" and New "prog" (like the Czech city), BUT these names are locally pronounced "ee-lee" and New "prayg"...and it's perfectly fine to correct someone if they say it wrong but don't insist on ridiculing them based on the fact that they havent been there before! Ya Know? lol
In my area, there's one area and one town which have this kind of phenomenon. Maybe there's more that I can't think of right now.
"Syon" is pronounced by locals who have roots in the area as "zye-en" or "zine". Likewise, "Feltham" is pronounced most most people, even locals, as "Felt-em"; but the local ASIAN (yes, even BRITISH asian) populations almost invariably say it as "felth-em".
Nice video, and I agree. Languages develop over time. Americans didn't one day wake up and decide to speak "American", just as the British didn't wake up and decide to speak "English".
Absolutely. Also, we lost rhoticity in England (mostly) whereas in the states you (mostly) didn't; does that make American English "purer"? No, but that fact alone makes a mockery of those Englishmen who claim that British English is "real" English, American English being a pure bastard child.
@BryanAJParry - You are one sad (no, tragic) individual. Who in their right mind calls themselves 'BryanAJParry'? You are so fearful of your inability to contest people that you pretend you have a good knowledge of English, when really you don't. This is obvious to see in your very bad misuse of vocabulary in all of your comments. You try to pluck out words to sound impressive, but its just not natural and you contradict yourself on too many levels to be taken seriously.
Okay, well this is clearly a completely nonsensical comment. And "Bryan A J Parry" is actually my name... my real name. Got issues? Take 'em to my mother.
I see that you appear to like going around trolling pages for no reason. Would be a little curious to know why you decided I would be a good victim. Whatever your story may be, the only one who looks a fool is you.
I think a lot of people, even those whose forebears wound up with the spelling pronunciation "aDventure", have again lost the "d"; it just seems to much effort to say. Or maybe I'm just lazy! ;-D
Yeah, I think I say aventure AND adventure...If I said Adventure playground say, I would probably drop the "d". But if I was stressing the word and saying it by itself I would keep it.
How would you know? I have a 1st class hons degree in English Language and one of my dissertations was on English spelling, so I'm clearly not that clueless, am I?
I agree with the point made in the video that languages are constantly changing and that there is no "correct" form, there are only "standards" i.e. an officially recognised and regulated dialect. I also liked what you said about regional dialectal variations, which although non-standard are of course not to be labelled "incorrect". I am a linguist myself but my focus is on the Romance languages.
There is a lot of wishy-washy cultural relativism pervading pretty much all fields and branches of academia. And many people are deeply suspicious therefore of "academic-like" statement about the non-incorrectness of regional forms etc. However, this is one situation where there is no wishy-washy-ness involved.
@BryanAJParry - If you had a first class degree in English, then you would know that AND and BUT should NEVER be used top start sentences. Get your head out of your arse, stop masturbating and find yourself a girlfriend Mr. AJPerry. I could give you some English classes if you really want to argue with people on here, but I am afraid I am very expensive...the reason being that I actually know what I'm doing.
(re: "and" and "but") Clearly you're a prescriptivist who is about fifty years out of date in terms of his knowledge of the usage and grammar of English. Read some books published in the last few decades, please.
Masturbating is nice.
How do you know if I have a girlfriend or not? And [ha!] what relevance is that to anything?
I also give English classes. Perhaps you'd care to attend.
Great video. Thanks! Very interesting examples. I like that you were able to punch holes in the "logic" of arguments for one version of the language or another.
It's fascinating to think what this language we call English will sound like in another few hundred years...
Absolutely! It's very interesting to ponder. I wonder if us English won't start to pronounce our Rs again under American and othr influences. I floated this idea before, but was shot down. But who knows.
Anyway, glad you appreciated the logic of my vid. Take it easy.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Have you even been paying attention to this thread or this vid? But anyway, 'we have changed the language' too. I mean: how lazy are we!!?? Dropping our Rs and that!!! (e.g. "pork" pronounced "pawk")
Rotherham (a town in England), which is often pronounced here as "Rovrum", but which many Americans seem to want to pronounce as it's spelt. Likewise, "Buckingham" etc.
Saying "fact" doesn't make it so. In what sense have they bastardised English?
One example: they still pronounce the R in car, park, sore, etc, whereas in Standard British English we no longer do, and words like "lore" and "law" are pronounced identically; indeed, before a vowel, "saw" tends to have an "r": "law and order "("loranawda"). So who's "bastardised" what?
well you're wrong.. because english is a germanic language.. and it's actually very similar to german .. and in german u dont pronounce the r's at the end of a word either.....
Erm, wot? "Germanic" does not mean the same thing as "German", my friend. Furthermore, orginally, all Germanics pronounced the R in those positions where us and the Germans no longer do.
BUT ONCE AGAIN: there's no "corruption" here, folks. It's just pure and simple language change.
"and in german u dont pronounce the r's at the end of a word either..... "
Actually, English speakers pronounced final Rs before America was colonized. After people began to settle in America, the British started to change that and ended up dropping it. The reason (many) Americans DO pronounce the R is because we stuck with the original rather than change with the Brits. German has nothing to do with it.
Erm, I know all of that, thank you. Indeed, I'm pretty sure I've said as much on the comments on this vid. I mentioned German as an analogy since in German they has altered the historic rhotic in a way we could call slightly analogous to the British English inovation.
@BryanAJParry - you have no idea what you are doing son. You are up against professional teachers here, not Stoke university 1st class English degrees (things I studied at primary school). Every comment you have on here is full of errors. When someone contests you, you answer by saying 'I knew that'. Yes of course you did (after several hours on Wikipedia). You're a complete joke.
Erm, ok... I'm actually pretty humble, and if I didn't know something I would thank the person for informing me. You clearly haven't read the comments on my videos well enough.
If you studied (for example) Government and Binding in Primary School (something I did at university), then you clearly went to probably the best Primary School in existence.
I was in the UK recently and spoke with people who had heavy regional accents. I have a standard southern California accent and the people could understand me with no difficulty. But, when these people began to speak I might as well have been on the dark side of the moon. I often had to ask them to repeat some of the most common words and phrases. My speech and my wife's, however, was clearly understood. Now, who then is speaking the inferior dialect?
Your point is well taken in regard to "received standard" English in reference to heavy southern American accents. When I used the word "inferior" I should have clarified my remarks. "Low" as in 'high and low' German' would have been a better choice. In the UK I tried to understand people speaking a 'low' English. Educated people in the UK and the USA tend to leave their dialects behind. In parts of Louisiana people speak a difficult English, they understand me easily. Not the reverse!
It's not about inferior. They almost certainly hear a lot more American regional accents on TV than you do regional British accents on TV. Back when American films first started in this country, lots of English people couldn't understand what the hell you lot were saying. Now we're used to it.
Yes and no. Your Anglo-Saxon English (Old English) analogy is not at all accurate. Why? (short sort story:) The Normans came and displaced our entire ruling class, and consequently opened English up to a high level of borrowing from French. Also, Anglo-Saxon did not spring out of Latin. Anglo-Saxon evolved from the old common Germanic language which was effectively a cousin of Latin. Both Latin and English ultimately derive from Proto-Indo-European, spoken thousands of years ago.
Brits, Aussies, French: we're all getting influenced by American English and adopting it. One basic example: you, me, or even the **French** send what online? Could it be an "email"...?
I'm totally with your logic. Let me just say also that I love British accents. Oh, and I work with computer networks -- I say the word "route" both ways.
I agree that the differences aren't important, but even so, I feel infuriated every time the stars and stripes is used to represent English on a Webpage. Even if it may be American English you will actualy view, it is not an American language.
I'd prefer violent conquest with the goal of erasure of english from the face of the earth. But I'd settle for a nice logical language built from the ground up.
So, if I went into a diner in England and asked for an English muffin, would everyone look at me funny? Routes? We dropped the word route and just go by #'s ... 95, 495, 93, 3, etc. -- as in, "Hop on 93 North, get on 495 South, and get off at 3 North."
Actually, we butchered the English language, according to my old college professor. I say we improvised, innovated, added a certain edge to it. Then again, if you live in the US, it is like fingernails down a chalkboard to listen to the nasally side of what we worked so hard to ruin! LOL!
What is it about the english that predisposes them to gross generalizations? Americans say "root" or "route" depending on the part of the country. My guess is that if it was meant to be pronounced as the british would say "row" then it would probably be spelled the same. gelati is the italian word for ice cream. it's the plural of gelato. It's spelled and pronounced as proNUNciation. Not proNOUNciation.
Nice job on the video . . . and for those who are trying unironically to argue that their version of English is "correct," you might want to read David Crystal's "The Stories of English." If you do, you might start having an inkling of how the language actually developed, and, just a hint, it wasn't handed down from God and copied straight into the Oxford English Dictionary.
This isn't a democracy :P Most linguists disagree with you for some reasons I have given and others. No one who knows anything about language agrees with you. Sorry.
No. Neither an Englishman nor an American can say the other is "wrong" if he is speaking the standard form of his language (say, Standard Southern British English, or General American English). Indeed, to extend that further, neither could say the other was wrong if they were speaking WHATEVER their own local form of the language happens to be whatsoever (e.g. Cockney).
Hi from the USA: I am a bit interested in accents....as sort of a hobby. It always amazes me how in the usa in only 200 years the accents could have become so extreme in different parts of the country. For example someone from Boston, Massachusetts could have a really hard time understanding someone from rural Alabama and vice versa.
It is pretty interesting. What I find odd about accents of English is just how far they have diverged compared to say Spanish which is also spoken widely outside of Spain. Also, within Spain, versus within the UK (or USA) accents seem to be a lot more similar.
I do so love it when people try to take me to task even tho their extreme ignorance is so plain.
Next time, try actually dealing with some issues. Oh, actually, your post isn't just pure rubbish - you deal with one issue. So let me refute it: Take out your dictionary, and actually look up the word "America". Thanks.
"The America`s are the lands of the Western hemisphere or New World, consisting of the continents of North America and South America with their associated islands and regions. The America(s) cover 8.3% of the Earth's total surface area (28.4% of its land area) and contain about 14% of the human population (about 900 million people). In many cultures, the landmass is regarded as one continent and it is called America."
My other comments werent about issues, just calling it asd i see it.
I didn't say "the Americas", though, did I? I said "America". Try looking THAT up in the dictionary. Actually, since you are incapable, let me help you: "America 1. The United States..."
Don't be a bloody idiot. South America is generally considered to be a continent of its own. But I know what you're angling at. Yes, the Americas are a continent. Who denied that? All I'm doing is pointing out that when I say "America" and mean "The USA" I am completely correct. Just look in your dictionary, you lazy, ignorant git. And by the way, it's spelt "you're an idiot", not "your". Ironic, no?
On the map, there is no America or Britain, but people know what you mean when you say them. Language is meant to convey meaning, Villa. Are you actually left scratching you head wondering where someone is if they say they are in America?
No other countries use America in their names. The Unit. Sts. of Amer. is unwieldy. Truthfully, it's a rather lousy name, as it sounds like a description rather than a name. It should have been a subtitle. Utopialand, the United States of America.
Aluminium should be said Aluminium as the British say it because their was a gathering a year or two back (after this video) where Physicists and Chemists who spoke English met and decided on many words including Aluminium and a some words were decided to be the Americanisms and some the British-isms, Aluminium was decided to be called how the British say it!!!
alewisgb 2 months ago
I'm British... yh yh yh god save the queen cheerio etc... but........... We are a country who thought they were the best... thats why we say things different to what they are spelt... or ad a U in the word.... Its cos we thought we were the best and we have a right to change the word. :L we controlled half the world at one pint... who can blame us :P
TheLedwards97 3 months ago
In British English,lemonade also means soda or pop like Coca Cola,Pepsi,etc.
nostalgiamelancolia1 7 months ago
do socttish people still hate the english?
MrSkycity007 7 months ago
@euch27 Pronounced "al-um-inyum".
85Aheadstix 8 months ago
I never understood why love is pronounced LUV instead of Loh-ve.
o_e.
TheMagicBolt 11 months ago
@TheMagicBolt Originally it was spelt "lufu", the "f" saidlike a "v". The final "u" sound fell away. However, in English we have a kind of prohibition on "v" ending a word e.g. "dove", "above", etc. Thus, the "e" ends it to prevent the spelling being "uncouth". Idiotic, I know, but there we are. Furthermore, "u" before certain other letters was changed to "o" because in the old scribal handwriting, all the letters would blend together. That's why we write "monk" "dove" "love" etc but SAY "munk"
BryanAJParry 10 months ago
i love when british people say 'whatever' hahahah
boyeatworld 1 year ago
@boyeatworld No its wo-eva.
85Aheadstix 8 months ago
the thing is...there are sooooo many American accents...some areas of the USA say route like ''rowt'' what you refered as british? and it's only certain parts of America that say it like ''root'' where i am from we say route like ''root'' i am from north eastern USA.
jjd705 1 year ago
I say route like "root" (I'm American). You can say it either way. People in New England tend to use more British terms. For example, cellar vs basement. In the USA you can say either, but in New England cellar is more common. And in New England they tend to say "bill" not "check" at a restaurant (either is correct). You can also say autumn or fall here, but fall is more common (by the way, "fall" is originally from England). Just some information :)
Nicole3900 1 year ago
you say process funny lol
bnatrl88 1 year ago
There are very deep accents in The South of America that make it hard for US to understand each other. We tend to talk slow and "role" our vowels. We also, run our words together. If you ever listen to an American Southerner , your hearing elements of both Scottish and Irish dialects combined with English. And if you've lived down South long enough you can tell where someone is from by the way they speak. I think that dialects are dyeing out due to TV and Internet influences .
ginko27 1 year ago
@euch27
UK: "A-luh-MIN-yuhm"
US: "uh-LOO-min-uhm"
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
aluminiom? lol!!!!
25dk25 1 year ago
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rayoat 1 year ago
i hate people who think thier smart,especially in the way they speak,like this guy the fucking muppet!
ukinfamous 1 year ago
@ukinfamous
You mean me? Care to actually answer my points, or do you just wanna hurl abuse?
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
@ukinfamous they're*
caipearce 1 year ago
@ukinfamous they're*
caipearce 1 year ago
There is no such word as pronOUnciation as you say in your video. The word is 'pronUnciation'. Your story about aluminium is totally false. Perhaps a few days back in uni would do you some good, son? Your other comment about the way you speak and 'so what?' totally negates the need for your video. The words 'and' and 'but' are both conjunctions and therefore should NEVER be used to begin sentences. I guess your degree was a distance learning course, or from somewhere like Stoke, son. Good try.
MrHeadingley 1 year ago
Yes as I said "pronounciation" is completely non-standard. Who's denying that? But it happens to be fairly widespread. I don't think it's desirable for us all to be clones who say everything the same. Indeed, the fact that you cleave so rigidly to apparent prescriptivist views is a sign in and of itself that you clearly did not grasp the underlying fundamental point of the video, i.e., that all language change at all times, and that this process is natural, unstoppable, and not at all bad.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
@MrHeadingley
Re: aluminium, I suggest you actually do some research.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
seeing as UK english is ACTUAL english, you would think that is right.
Elvyloco922 1 year ago
@Elvyloco922
LOL! Not another one of those comments. See my posts on this vid and also the content of my vid. Short story: you're mistaken. :)
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
@BryanAJParry naah, i don't give a shit.
Elvyloco922 1 year ago
Where did you get your information from? Almost all of your research is incorrect. There is no such word as pronounciation, try dropping the second 'o' and you will be correct. Your ideas about Farnshaw are very misleading too. Stop saying pronounciation! TOSSER!
MrHeadingley 2 years ago
@MrHeadingley
That's the way me and lots of other people pronounce that word. It's not standard, but so what. It's how I speak. And what? Get a grip.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
nice vid
TheCheeseFood 2 years ago
What do people the UK think of Australian English? Do some have a problem with it too?
elasticxplastic 2 years ago
Nice video! Im from Minnesota and we have towns like Ely, New Prague, etc. and people that arent from here and even people that ARE from around here but have never been there, etc. they would prob pronounce them as "ee-lie" and New "prog" (like the Czech city), BUT these names are locally pronounced "ee-lee" and New "prayg"...and it's perfectly fine to correct someone if they say it wrong but don't insist on ridiculing them based on the fact that they havent been there before! Ya Know? lol
lgp490 2 years ago
Alright there, how's it going?
In my area, there's one area and one town which have this kind of phenomenon. Maybe there's more that I can't think of right now.
"Syon" is pronounced by locals who have roots in the area as "zye-en" or "zine". Likewise, "Feltham" is pronounced most most people, even locals, as "Felt-em"; but the local ASIAN (yes, even BRITISH asian) populations almost invariably say it as "felth-em".
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Nice video, and I agree. Languages develop over time. Americans didn't one day wake up and decide to speak "American", just as the British didn't wake up and decide to speak "English".
JLynneh 2 years ago
Absolutely. Also, we lost rhoticity in England (mostly) whereas in the states you (mostly) didn't; does that make American English "purer"? No, but that fact alone makes a mockery of those Englishmen who claim that British English is "real" English, American English being a pure bastard child.
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
@BryanAJParry - You are one sad (no, tragic) individual. Who in their right mind calls themselves 'BryanAJParry'? You are so fearful of your inability to contest people that you pretend you have a good knowledge of English, when really you don't. This is obvious to see in your very bad misuse of vocabulary in all of your comments. You try to pluck out words to sound impressive, but its just not natural and you contradict yourself on too many levels to be taken seriously.
MrHeadingley 1 year ago
@MrHeadingley
Okay, well this is clearly a completely nonsensical comment. And "Bryan A J Parry" is actually my name... my real name. Got issues? Take 'em to my mother.
I see that you appear to like going around trolling pages for no reason. Would be a little curious to know why you decided I would be a good victim. Whatever your story may be, the only one who looks a fool is you.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
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RifledBarrel 2 years ago
I'm gonna say aventure now, I think I do if I say it quickly
22poopoo 2 years ago
I think a lot of people, even those whose forebears wound up with the spelling pronunciation "aDventure", have again lost the "d"; it just seems to much effort to say. Or maybe I'm just lazy! ;-D
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Yeah, I think I say aventure AND adventure...If I said Adventure playground say, I would probably drop the "d". But if I was stressing the word and saying it by itself I would keep it.
22poopoo 2 years ago
@BryanAJParry - You cannot write English to save your life, and your spelling is atrocious.
MrHeadingley 2 years ago
@MrHeadingley
How would you know? I have a 1st class hons degree in English Language and one of my dissertations was on English spelling, so I'm clearly not that clueless, am I?
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
i don't think us americans have any problem with british people. I think it's every american girls dream to marry a guy with a british accent. lol
MegtheMusical 2 years ago
lol maybe, but only because of Hugh Grant etc, no?
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
a little lol
MegtheMusical 2 years ago
I agree with the point made in the video that languages are constantly changing and that there is no "correct" form, there are only "standards" i.e. an officially recognised and regulated dialect. I also liked what you said about regional dialectal variations, which although non-standard are of course not to be labelled "incorrect". I am a linguist myself but my focus is on the Romance languages.
angryafghan 2 years ago
There is a lot of wishy-washy cultural relativism pervading pretty much all fields and branches of academia. And many people are deeply suspicious therefore of "academic-like" statement about the non-incorrectness of regional forms etc. However, this is one situation where there is no wishy-washy-ness involved.
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
@BryanAJParry - If you had a first class degree in English, then you would know that AND and BUT should NEVER be used top start sentences. Get your head out of your arse, stop masturbating and find yourself a girlfriend Mr. AJPerry. I could give you some English classes if you really want to argue with people on here, but I am afraid I am very expensive...the reason being that I actually know what I'm doing.
MrHeadingley 1 year ago
@MrHeadingley
(re: "and" and "but") Clearly you're a prescriptivist who is about fifty years out of date in terms of his knowledge of the usage and grammar of English. Read some books published in the last few decades, please.
Masturbating is nice.
How do you know if I have a girlfriend or not? And [ha!] what relevance is that to anything?
I also give English classes. Perhaps you'd care to attend.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
I'm Canadian and I have never heard or do I even know what gelati or gelate mean.
My guess is ice cream right? Or is that Gelato?
Get back to me im lost.
Cloonator 2 years ago
Italian: "gelato" = icecream (singular, masculine noun) "gelati" would be the plural form.
From the verb "gelare" - to freeze, cognate with Spanish verb "helar" and noun "helado"
angryafghan 2 years ago
I'm english and I also dunno WTF gelate means. never heard of it!
22poopoo 2 years ago
Great video! Very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting it.
euterpeasecas 2 years ago
No probs. Glad you enjoyed it. :)
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Very interesting, thank you
HamerD 2 years ago
No problem. 8)
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Good video. Totally unbiased. =)
theguymjp 2 years ago
Cheers, man. Glad you think so. :)
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Great video. Thanks! Very interesting examples. I like that you were able to punch holes in the "logic" of arguments for one version of the language or another.
It's fascinating to think what this language we call English will sound like in another few hundred years...
climbyourtree 2 years ago
Absolutely! It's very interesting to ponder. I wonder if us English won't start to pronounce our Rs again under American and othr influences. I floated this idea before, but was shot down. But who knows.
Anyway, glad you appreciated the logic of my vid. Take it easy.
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
Uk English is right becaus eit came first, US English is a perversion, most of the changes are made out of laziness anyways
xpo50 2 years ago
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Have you even been paying attention to this thread or this vid? But anyway, 'we have changed the language' too. I mean: how lazy are we!!?? Dropping our Rs and that!!! (e.g. "pork" pronounced "pawk")
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
The English language is English. American ' English ' is wrong and the U.S.A is shithole. end of story.
azz578 2 years ago
Erm, no. Read the rest of this thread.
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
I find the English accent boring.
..wait.
I just insulted myself. D:
carysmoo 2 years ago
Sry, what are you sayin in 4:33?
ireylo 3 years ago
Rotherham (a town in England), which is often pronounced here as "Rovrum", but which many Americans seem to want to pronounce as it's spelt. Likewise, "Buckingham" etc.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Wait... how do you pronounce 'Buckingham' then?
ireylo 3 years ago
The "ham" is pronounced like "'em", with a schwa. Often, the ng goes to n.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
I think Leicestershire takes the cake for the difference between the spelling & the pronunciation.
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago
What about "Featherstonehaugh", which is pronounced as "Farnshaw"? Although, you're right, "Lestuhshuh" is a pretty decent example, too! :D
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
amercians bastardised the english language. fact
DaBomba1212 3 years ago
Saying "fact" doesn't make it so. In what sense have they bastardised English?
One example: they still pronounce the R in car, park, sore, etc, whereas in Standard British English we no longer do, and words like "lore" and "law" are pronounced identically; indeed, before a vowel, "saw" tends to have an "r": "law and order "("loranawda"). So who's "bastardised" what?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
well you're wrong.. because english is a germanic language.. and it's actually very similar to german .. and in german u dont pronounce the r's at the end of a word either.....
mrmchpisto 2 years ago
Erm, wot? "Germanic" does not mean the same thing as "German", my friend. Furthermore, orginally, all Germanics pronounced the R in those positions where us and the Germans no longer do.
BUT ONCE AGAIN: there's no "corruption" here, folks. It's just pure and simple language change.
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
"and in german u dont pronounce the r's at the end of a word either..... "
Actually, English speakers pronounced final Rs before America was colonized. After people began to settle in America, the British started to change that and ended up dropping it. The reason (many) Americans DO pronounce the R is because we stuck with the original rather than change with the Brits. German has nothing to do with it.
ManicEightBall 1 year ago
@ManicEightBall
Erm, I know all of that, thank you. Indeed, I'm pretty sure I've said as much on the comments on this vid. I mentioned German as an analogy since in German they has altered the historic rhotic in a way we could call slightly analogous to the British English inovation.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
@BryanAJParry - you have no idea what you are doing son. You are up against professional teachers here, not Stoke university 1st class English degrees (things I studied at primary school). Every comment you have on here is full of errors. When someone contests you, you answer by saying 'I knew that'. Yes of course you did (after several hours on Wikipedia). You're a complete joke.
MrHeadingley 1 year ago
@MrHeadingley
Erm, ok... I'm actually pretty humble, and if I didn't know something I would thank the person for informing me. You clearly haven't read the comments on my videos well enough.
If you studied (for example) Government and Binding in Primary School (something I did at university), then you clearly went to probably the best Primary School in existence.
BryanAJParry 1 year ago
I was in the UK recently and spoke with people who had heavy regional accents. I have a standard southern California accent and the people could understand me with no difficulty. But, when these people began to speak I might as well have been on the dark side of the moon. I often had to ask them to repeat some of the most common words and phrases. My speech and my wife's, however, was clearly understood. Now, who then is speaking the inferior dialect?
zeekwolfe 3 years ago
So your comparing your standard California accent with people in the UK who had heavy regional accents.
That is like comparing the 'received standard' English accent with a heavy southern US accent.
Bradleyismyname 3 years ago
Your point is well taken in regard to "received standard" English in reference to heavy southern American accents. When I used the word "inferior" I should have clarified my remarks. "Low" as in 'high and low' German' would have been a better choice. In the UK I tried to understand people speaking a 'low' English. Educated people in the UK and the USA tend to leave their dialects behind. In parts of Louisiana people speak a difficult English, they understand me easily. Not the reverse!
zeekwolfe 3 years ago
You are the ignorant one. The people you spoke with obviously TRIED to understand you and succeded. YOU on the other hand didnt bother trying.
THEREALSALEMAN 3 years ago 2
It's not about inferior. They almost certainly hear a lot more American regional accents on TV than you do regional British accents on TV. Back when American films first started in this country, lots of English people couldn't understand what the hell you lot were saying. Now we're used to it.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
US English is an adoption of the British language: English.
lChrisUK 3 years ago
Anglo-celtic settlers had been going to American before "Britain" even existed. The people simply took their language - English - with them.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Yeah, well American English is doing the same that the British did with the Anglo-Saxon English.
The English you speak in England actually isn't the original either.
And the Anglo Saxon's somewhere down the line, just like most other Western world languages, sprung out of Latin.
American English is only subdividing the same way all other languages had.
misled775 3 years ago
Yes and no. Your Anglo-Saxon English (Old English) analogy is not at all accurate. Why? (short sort story:) The Normans came and displaced our entire ruling class, and consequently opened English up to a high level of borrowing from French. Also, Anglo-Saxon did not spring out of Latin. Anglo-Saxon evolved from the old common Germanic language which was effectively a cousin of Latin. Both Latin and English ultimately derive from Proto-Indo-European, spoken thousands of years ago.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
honestly, who cares? we have language to communicate. it gets the job done.
nicolelynzie 3 years ago
Absolutely.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
i just wanna say, fuck u yanks and ur "mom"
IT'S MUM!!!
btw im Aussie!
Grogan1988 3 years ago
Australians seem to be sounding more and more like Americans if you ask me. Have you found that?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
NO WAY! americans can stick their americanisation up their arse
Grogan1988 3 years ago
We're saying you're adopting our way of talking, like your previous comment.
Kazka13 3 years ago
no we dont, u must not be able to read very well since i said we say MUM NOT MOM
Grogan1988 3 years ago
Brits, Aussies, French: we're all getting influenced by American English and adopting it. One basic example: you, me, or even the **French** send what online? Could it be an "email"...?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
bla bla bla
Grogan1988 3 years ago
Erm, what?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
means I DONT CARE
Grogan1988 3 years ago
Then don't post! :P
BryanAJParry 2 years ago
how do we not have as much freedom?
I don't see being able to handle guns as a form of freedom, i see it as a form of violence...oh well
flissyr 3 years ago
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fuck your english
TubeGhandi 3 years ago
i swear like if the americans were right then they are calling their own language wrong coz they are using our language!
that is confusing but its just calling americans half hypocrits if they say they are right, but either way no one is right its just a language right?
nereaxo 3 years ago
Who are you referring to?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
I'm totally with your logic. Let me just say also that I love British accents. Oh, and I work with computer networks -- I say the word "route" both ways.
raydlevel5 3 years ago
Ya'll need to think about Texas
shinnerbeer 3 years ago
you are so boring
kooga6 3 years ago
uk speek more well..... ermmm goofier.... usa english pwnes
tandis97 3 years ago
Can't we all just... get along?
Izakokomarixyz 3 years ago 2
Exactly my point.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
its a bit fucking obvious which is right seeing as we made it...
AshBadda 3 years ago
Hmm.. no. :P
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
hah exactly
you cant go against the creators
so shut up and speak right ;)
HeadMental 3 years ago
We're right because we're bigger and have a better army. Don't tempt us.
Novjunulo 3 years ago
But we have bigger... erm... ya know... errrr
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
trash
"Route" and "root" have different meanings.
"Rowt" and "root" are different.
Novjunulo 3 years ago
Dunno quite what you're point is. In the UK we say "route" and "root" identically, but in the States they are said differently.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
garbage, wrench, and what?
And what do you call wrenches?
Novjunulo 3 years ago
Generally, we call them spanners.
Also, "gelati". But remember, this vid is a video response to a no longer extant video... I hate it when that happens.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
I agree that the differences aren't important, but even so, I feel infuriated every time the stars and stripes is used to represent English on a Webpage. Even if it may be American English you will actualy view, it is not an American language.
t3hpighouse 3 years ago
british accent is soooo sexy i love it eventhough i dont understand everything. i have this thing for accents.
diablitoo86 3 years ago
I hope my accent sufficiently stimulated you.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
LOL, IT DID.
diablitoo86 3 years ago
Nice one. Glad to be of service. And I'm cheaper than that phoneline... ;~D
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
You have a sexy voice!
And I really like your video's message. :-)
RydiaCaller 3 years ago
Hey cheers, I appreciate it.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
No probs. :-)
RydiaCaller 3 years ago
I'd love it if we just stopped using any form of english.
Craydon 3 years ago
What would you prefer? Klingon??
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
I'd prefer violent conquest with the goal of erasure of english from the face of the earth. But I'd settle for a nice logical language built from the ground up.
Craydon 3 years ago
How drab. :P
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Absolutely correct and thank you. Prejudice stinks.
sunflyer40 3 years ago
Absolutely.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
So, if I went into a diner in England and asked for an English muffin, would everyone look at me funny? Routes? We dropped the word route and just go by #'s ... 95, 495, 93, 3, etc. -- as in, "Hop on 93 North, get on 495 South, and get off at 3 North."
Beatpoet7371 3 years ago
I have heard young Americans use the way "route". Of course, "route" has a slightly non-literal meaning, too...
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Actually, we butchered the English language, according to my old college professor. I say we improvised, innovated, added a certain edge to it. Then again, if you live in the US, it is like fingernails down a chalkboard to listen to the nasally side of what we worked so hard to ruin! LOL!
Beatpoet7371 3 years ago
Your old college professor was clearly an old school prescriptivist fool.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Indeed
Beatpoet7371 3 years ago
and what about the uk?
peanutfarmerUSA 3 years ago
What is it about the english that predisposes them to gross generalizations? Americans say "root" or "route" depending on the part of the country. My guess is that if it was meant to be pronounced as the british would say "row" then it would probably be spelled the same. gelati is the italian word for ice cream. it's the plural of gelato. It's spelled and pronounced as proNUNciation. Not proNOUNciation.
jresta 3 years ago
Le waslolyeshni!!!, washichu-iyapi (Milahanska nainsh Shaglasha), washichu-iyapi hecha yelo!!!
CetanWitko 3 years ago
Nice job on the video . . . and for those who are trying unironically to argue that their version of English is "correct," you might want to read David Crystal's "The Stories of English." If you do, you might start having an inkling of how the language actually developed, and, just a hint, it wasn't handed down from God and copied straight into the Oxford English Dictionary.
aoxelfrieda 3 years ago
Yeh, that's a good book. I don't grasp why so many people are just so, well, idiotic on this point.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
gay accent
tysonuk 3 years ago
Cheers!
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
in america hey speek american english so surly that makes english correct!
dannicanavan 3 years ago
UK's english is correct because we invented the language and we used it before america was ever inhabited :) UK wins
jellyking12345 3 years ago
Nope. You lose. :P
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
??? how can england lose? its our language for f**ks sake lol
jellyking12345 3 years ago
You clearly didn't listen to the vid ;) :P
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
i did but i think that its our language thats why they call it english! thats my opinion anyway :P
jellyking12345 3 years ago
But your opinion isn't valid for the reasons I give, plus others. Sorry :P ;)
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
i think that it is valid. just like what Sagajagan said further down this page, thats what most English people would say!
jellyking12345 3 years ago
This isn't a democracy :P Most linguists disagree with you for some reasons I have given and others. No one who knows anything about language agrees with you. Sorry.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
nah mate
jellyking12345 3 years ago
its obvious that uk english is the correct one, because its OUR language
sagajagan 3 years ago
Erm, wot?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
what i meant was that americans cant say an englishmen is saying something wrong because the english invented the language. Its OUR language
sagajagan 3 years ago
No. Neither an Englishman nor an American can say the other is "wrong" if he is speaking the standard form of his language (say, Standard Southern British English, or General American English). Indeed, to extend that further, neither could say the other was wrong if they were speaking WHATEVER their own local form of the language happens to be whatsoever (e.g. Cockney).
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Hi from the USA: I am a bit interested in accents....as sort of a hobby. It always amazes me how in the usa in only 200 years the accents could have become so extreme in different parts of the country. For example someone from Boston, Massachusetts could have a really hard time understanding someone from rural Alabama and vice versa.
inkey2 3 years ago
It is pretty interesting. What I find odd about accents of English is just how far they have diverged compared to say Spanish which is also spoken widely outside of Spain. Also, within Spain, versus within the UK (or USA) accents seem to be a lot more similar.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
BryanAJParry. Do you like the taste of Burgers?
You seem to have your tongue far up the US arse mate.
And you keep mentioning "America" they dont speak much English in South America,I asume you mean the United States?(Thats was point one)
VillaMan08 3 years ago
I do so love it when people try to take me to task even tho their extreme ignorance is so plain.
Next time, try actually dealing with some issues. Oh, actually, your post isn't just pure rubbish - you deal with one issue. So let me refute it: Take out your dictionary, and actually look up the word "America". Thanks.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
"The America`s are the lands of the Western hemisphere or New World, consisting of the continents of North America and South America with their associated islands and regions. The America(s) cover 8.3% of the Earth's total surface area (28.4% of its land area) and contain about 14% of the human population (about 900 million people). In many cultures, the landmass is regarded as one continent and it is called America."
My other comments werent about issues, just calling it asd i see it.
VillaMan08 3 years ago
I didn't say "the Americas", though, did I? I said "America". Try looking THAT up in the dictionary. Actually, since you are incapable, let me help you: "America 1. The United States..."
Hmm.....
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Mate, that was ages ago, im not intrested in your shitty little video,or what you have to say anymore.
But its plain for all to see that your an Idiot.
I spouse you think South America is on the African continent, or that Africa is a Country?Dick
VillaMan08 3 years ago
Don't be a bloody idiot. South America is generally considered to be a continent of its own. But I know what you're angling at. Yes, the Americas are a continent. Who denied that? All I'm doing is pointing out that when I say "America" and mean "The USA" I am completely correct. Just look in your dictionary, you lazy, ignorant git. And by the way, it's spelt "you're an idiot", not "your". Ironic, no?
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
Did i not make it clear that im not intrested?
Your a knob, and i would ignore you in life, so im going to ignore you on here.
VillaMan08 3 years ago
Okay, troll.
BryanAJParry 3 years ago
You're doing a brilliant job of being uninterested and ignoring him.
Good job!
labyrinthinequeen 3 years ago
On the map, there is no America or Britain, but people know what you mean when you say them. Language is meant to convey meaning, Villa. Are you actually left scratching you head wondering where someone is if they say they are in America?
No other countries use America in their names. The Unit. Sts. of Amer. is unwieldy. Truthfully, it's a rather lousy name, as it sounds like a description rather than a name. It should have been a subtitle. Utopialand, the United States of America.
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago
@ TheSoSoAgnostic
I know what you mean and you're right, but... there IS "Britain" on the map -and not only one. (Also "America" - as continent) ;-)
23aztek 2 years ago