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Real hijackers are those who hijack this country into wars with the Middle East and make themselves ancient leadership superstitious religion and a lot of money. Who made drone bombings that hurts our humanity in the eyes of those local most tough patriots in Afghanistan? They should be arrested, tried, and executed on the spot. Nobody should make wars a career just as making money an economy because both of them are indifferent, lake conscious and intelligent religious and civilities.
Look at Obama now. What has he proven in his promises to America? Squat! He's a one term president who has betrayed the trust of America in his oath, in his assurances for reformation, in his word. He's a liar. In the end he winds up standing side by side with Hitler, Stalin and Nero before the GOD of heaven in his betrayal of us! He's no greater nor lesser than these 1st degree murderers of history. Until America recognizes this betrayal nothing will change. The satirists won't change one iota.
@huckstered Guilty of exaggeration, yes. But not when it comes to our politicians extending to Americans the equivalent of placebo remedies. Are you familiar with the number 654,976? That's the number of Iraqi civilian casualties as of 2007 calculated by epidemiologists from Johns Hopkins University. 1,000,000+ today. Why such sacrifice of innocent human life? The insatiable greed, the tyrants of the US, the religious hypocrites (G.W. Bush) who declare Christ, who knew the loss of innocent life
@huckstered John Surrat, one of the masterminds of the plot escaped from the Ford Theatre with the hit man John Wilkes Booth on the night of April 14, 1865. He was tracked by the State Department to Canada, where he was sheltered by Catholic priests; and from Canada to London, where he was sheltered by priests in a Catholic rectory. And from London to Rome. When finally caught, he was found in the Pope’s private army, from whence he was brought back to the United States and hanged for his crime.
@huckstered To illustrate how deception has been tucked away from public knowledge, in the 19th century, an ex-Catholic priest, Father Charles Chiniquy, wrote a book, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome. In this book he chronicled his interviews with President Abraham Lincoln. Many private conversations were preserved by Charles Chiniquy in his book revealing Lincoln’s knowledge of Rome’s involvement in the Civil war as well as his foreknowledge concerning his death.
@huckstered You uplift the dignity of Lincoln on "My Channel." That's a worthy work. Did you know that Lincoln was assassinated by Jesuit puppets from the Roman Catholic Church? Read the court records. The Vatican’s highly venerated Pope Pius IX wrote in his Encyclical Letter of August 15, 1854: "The absurd and erroneous doctrines or ravings in defense of liberty of conscience is a most pestilential error: a pest above all others most to be dreaded in a state." The pope blessed Jefferson Davis.
Thank You for posting these videos. I really enjoy both Bill Moyers and Bill Maher. I cannot afford the cable channel for Bill Maher's show and I really hate missing that show.
Bill moyers is a person wth great insght in history ,and a true idealist . Bill maher , is a great comiedian and social liberatarian ,PRESIDENT/ VICE PRESIDENT ! Im for it !
I have been so puzzled by President Obama's stance and his vision of what reform would ultimately look like. To hear Bill Moyers say that even Obama is in bed with the health insurance industry is awfully disheartening. How are we ever going to get health care reform then? I don't see the mass demonstrations that he is talking about happening anytime soon. Besides, isn't it naive to think legislators would renounce the health care industry even for that?
"don't see the mass demonstrations that he is talking about happening anytime soon"
that's because this country is stupid and lives in a vacuum. It's sad how few people know what the truth is. Hopefully people wake up before it's too late.
All I know is if Obama doesn't stop acting like such a pussy, I'm going independent in 2012. No loaf is Palin. A half loaf is Obama. This country need a full loaf.
I'm very open-minded to whoever has good ideas that work, so I've been registered Independent since 2001. I keep most politics to myself, and don't advertise anything that wound outright anger my fellow prentitous liberal friends.
Who by the way, have some great ideas, but somehow always end of getting just as corrupted as the opposing side when it comes to greed and power. Which is just Hatred at its root.
Agreed - need to get away from all this polarization.
IE Right wing thinks X, Left wing thinks Y on every issue.
It's ridiculous....hopefully most people have varying opinions (left/right) depending on the issue. The public need to separate themselves from the political wrangling going on...realize it's a game and make up their own minds based on as much information as they can find.
It's just good to hear rational thought and no talk of "Death Panels"....The discussion (as it appears in the mainstream media anyway) is more about yelling, spreading BS and encouraging ignorance.
People...either Democrat or Republican or independent...doesn't matter to me.
All I'm saying is that this is one of the only rational discussions I've heard about public Health care and how it's a good thing and inevitable. Getting past the fear-mongering by Republicans and Back-sliding by the Democrats and how to actually get it done sooner or later.
I've been listening to Moyer for over 3 decades and I've found, other than religion, he has no agenda; he's not driven by financial gain, his only aim is to inform the public without bias. A great journalist.
Anyone who likes this interview should do a search for a video of his speach on the media titled "The Plantation".
If Conservatives oppose big government they should shut up about abortion and gay marriage (not the governments business), and argue for the Pentagon's ridiculous budget to be slashed and corporate welfare to be outlawed.
Its corporate welfare which is bankrupting America.
Yes, health care is a moral issue. It never fails to amaze me that radical right *Christians* don't seem to get it that Jesus (as in Jesus Christ) taught his followers to love the poor and the sinful. He taught compassion and kindness - so what's the *each man for himself* deal? What is with the anger and the self-righteousness? It was the Pharisees who were criticized by Jesus for paying more attention to the letter of the law than the spirit, so why the right wing arrogance?
@jubileeklezmer I'm not religious and don't believe in God but I'd really like it if Christians acted more like real Christians, if Christians acted more like Jesus. The message of Jesus from my understanding was the Golden Rule, and in its infancy that was the message of Christianity. When Constantine came though, the message came all about the Cross and converting others and violence and bloodshed.
Christians need to refer back to Jesus's message which barely any Christian follows today.
Here's a new metaphor: The conservatives are a group of people who want to get wasted on opiates, smash mail boxes and fire shots at the moon while howling and laughing... The liberals are the one's pulling the TP out of the trees in the neighborhood and sending the conservatives to the Methadone clinic... Nobody likes the party-pooper, and liberals are tired of cleaning up after conservatives. Oh, BTW, China is "feeding" ALL of us with loaned money.. Next time you eat, thank god, AND Jintao
I've lived in both Canada and the US, and experienced both health care systems. Both share one thing. Hard core socialists in Canada act like rabid dogs when someone suggests that a private option should be available.
And (typically) conservative Americans have the same reaction when a universal option is discussed.
Funny, both groups (Canadian Socialists, American Conservatives) think of each other as pure evil, yet they both want absolutely no change to existing healthcare.
Im not sure how you see me as whining and I am in a high enough tax bracket that I am contributor, not a "feeder". Interesting though that instead of offering some examples of good conservative leadership and telling me some of the policies you have in mind to fix whatever you feel is broken, all you can manage to do is continue to suck your thumb. All I asked for is for you to expand your point and name some politicians or policies you feel would right the ship. You cant seem to do ithat
Over the last 29 years, the GOP has had the Presidency for 20 of them. They have also controlled the House and Senate for a good amount of time as well. So you say the country is lost and you blame the Democrats, and yet your party has had the reigns for the majority of 30 years. Is it that hard to at least consider that the GOP has made some terrible decisions and caused some of the trouble we are currently in or do you just want to blame the new guy who's been in office less than a year?
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Conservatives are not GOP or republican and Conservatives know more about the state of the economy than any stupid Democrat who feeds off the rest of the American citizens.
Your debating skills are beyond reproach. Who can argue with such a well structured and articulated position? Conservatives might know something about the economy, but for some reason they spend more energy worrying about gay marraige and abortion than in implementing sound fiscal policies. Can you give me an example of one of your favorite conservative leaders and outline some policies that might benefit our country? At least pass some useful information and stop the childish whining?
He must have been the only one who didn't know JFK was fooling around. We, who lived in South Florida at the time knew all about Mrs. Earl E.T. Smith and others. Moyers has always been too much of an idealist, although he's an admirable man.
you sure know how to make a mountain out of a mole hill. if thats the standard for being a radical, then why isn't the majority of republican party an enemy of the state? osama bin laden had less hate in his rhetoric than these people. i think it's time for you to stop being so dramatic, and quit labeling those who don't agree with your inbred philosophies. this country is a melting pot of cultures and political ideals...that's democracy, you fascist.
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Radical leftism = freedom to screw the American citizens but, they will get there"s and should be tried for treason for making a mockery out of the USA
Your poor spelling aside, try looking to the Conservatives for leadership since there is only incompetence on the mockery of your Democrats who have no American spirit.
TheNewVideo - We had enough over the last 8 years of conservative incompetence from the little fake president and his fake war and the destruction of our economy and our standing in the world. You call the greed and lies of the conservatives the "American Spirit"? lol What a joke.
Hey NewVideo - The 8 years of the Bush/Chenney/Rove regime was a mockery of democracy, the Constitution, Free Speech and just about every ideal that Republicans say they honor. Your party is not only unpatriotic, they dont even understand basic governement process any more. Not to mention the hypocracy of their pious thumping of "family values" as they chase male staffers around the office or run off to Argentina to cheat on their wives. Get your own House in order before you lecture the left.
this is what I mean by the death of democracy. Instead of engaging in civil dialogue and trying to at least understand the perspective of the "other" side, extremists, whether right or left, quickly degrade into ad hominin attacks and chest pounding. Why call me a leech instead of adressing the hypocrisies? You dont know me at all other than that I do not share your political views. Is that your vision of democracy and "The American Way of Life"? To just slander those who dont agree with you?
I think the world needs a little less of your "American spirit" right now. You guys did a pretty good job of messing the whole world up for the rest of us, we were sort of hoping you would takea break, maybe fix some stuff in your own country for a while. After all, there is a lot to fix. If our country was in as bad shape as yours, I would be quietly getting together with my opponents and asking "ok, how the hell did we sink so low"?
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America will only be fixed when these Democrats are voted out of office and everything they did is reversed. plus decreasing taxes and legislation so America can become what it should be, free.
Americans are very strange people. You seem to judge a Presidency by how the country is the day they take office, rather than how much it has changed (for better or worse) the day they leave office. Its like you think Obama is responsibly for your bad economy, your total lack of standing in the world, your partisan aggression and the fact that thousands of your people died in a war that has made you less safe.
What has he done in the few months he has been president that were worse than that?
Yeah NewVideo...America was really on the right track with Bush in office - deficit spending to fund useless wars, the near collapse of the banking system, subverting the Constituion, alientating the few allies we have left in the world. Very solid effort. The GOP brings the nation to near collapse and then starts crying about the Democrats ruining things after they have been in power for 8 months. You need some serious therapy man or at least a hand job from Rush Limbaugh to ease some stress!
@TheNewVideo The Gop and The US Chamber of Commerce = more jobs to China/India/Mexico thanks to the fact that Republicans voted Against the Anti Sourcing Bill.!
Moyers is a collectivist promoting dinosaur with a mind frozen in amber. Fortunately, more and more Americans are beginning to finally realize that New Deal and Great Society programs only spawn more socialism, less personal freedom and bigger government. Republican socialists programs equate to the same. To quote a statesman, "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."
You mean like the big fat "conservative" Bush government that took a balanced budget with a surplus and built the largest deficit in US history?
You mean the compassionate conservative hoax that invaded a sovereignty with no founded justification and created a "war: and called it a Liberation for freedom? Are you talking about an administration that, in an effort
to disguise a failing economy, created a real etsate boom pumped with unethical loan practices?
Yes, the New Deal and Great Society promoted the Social Security and Medicare that are there for your parents and grandparents ( that's a bummer, isn't it?), an interstate highway system better than anywhere in the world, clean water, a reasonable safe food supply, reliable power and communications across one of the largest ( in land area) countries in the world, up until Bush - a decent, inclusive educational system that put millions of Americans into the middle class...
Social Security is the biggest Ponzie scheme this Nation has ever seen and was never intended as a means of survival for retirees. Just try living off it at age 65 if it is still there. Medicare is nearly bankrupt as well. The interstate highway system was initially built to move military troops and cargo rapidly across the nation. The Government education system was producing illiterate graduates in disproportionate numbers long before Bush. Government is the problem, not the solution.
@protectedparody--Government is the problem, not the solution. I hear this all the time. But what does that mean? Is government the problem when they send the fire department to hose down your home when it catches fire? Or when they send the cops to your house because someone's trying to break in? Or when you're using the court system to get what's rightfully yours?
@protectedparody--And sure Social Security isn't enough to live off. But what else is there; the market? At least with Social Security, you as a citizen of the United States have some influence on the outcome.
I think it might be fair if you could opt out. Maybe get a tax refund or credit so that you can spend your money as you please.
but honestly, sloganeering with "government is the problem, not the solution" gets us nowhere. Come on man.
You as a citizen have no control over the outcome if the Social Security system is bankrupt by the time you retire. Also you have no right to the money you have paid in until the government says so. Give me the money I currently have Socialist Security, which is perhaps paying 1 to 2 percent, not enough to keep up with inflation and I can do better, even in the market, over the long haul. Ever hear of GOLD? I am glad to know you believe in the right to opt out. There is hope for you.
You're kidding, right? The U.S. was once on the gold standard. People still carried paper money, silver, copper and gold coins. The difference was that the money was actually backed by something of value, gold. Now it is backed by nothing and the Federal Reserve prints money out of thin air that is worthless. Two books I'll recommend to you, "Meltdown" by Thomas Woods and "What Has Government Done To Our Money" by Murray N. Rothbard. These books will answer your questions.
Agreed, its astounding that the powers that be (namely corporations) can divert the public's attention by placing the blame on the government when in fact the government is, in most cases, taking orders from them.
One of the Federalist themes is that ambition would be used to check ambition, which if I recall speaks to the power of the president and the congress. However if we impose this on the corporation, the question we must ask is what is the ambition of the corporation?
Money. And that's fine. I'm not against business. But I don't find that very comforting. Besides, Progressivism was a response to corporate excess at the expense of average, working American among other things.
Kennedy said,"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country". The Republicans practice the opposite." What can my country do for me? " Fuck every one else!
jeffersonianideal- The difference between the Gop and the Demos is that the Gop is for Big Corporations. Whereas the Demos are for the people. Americans being the dummies that they are are easily conned. Just wave the flag at them . Quote the Bible and add a few slogans. It matters not that the people doing it have never served their country in the military. However, they can spew hatred from all the media. This is what Americans fall for every time.
The democrats and republicans are two sides of the same coin. What "people" are you referring to? The people who work hard for themselves and families only to see their paychecks eaten up by oppressive taxes that go for needless government spending? How about those non-violent citizens like Bill Maher who can't enjoy their intoxicant of choice in privacy of their own home. You can thank Joe Biden, a democrat and one of the architects of the war on drugs.
As long as people like you make this an issue of which political party is responsible for what, nothing will get solved. Let's face it, the blame game may be entertaining but ultimately solves nothing. Let's stop pointing the finger and wasting twice as much time and figure out how everyone can benefit, regardless on what issue.
People like me, namely libertarians, are the voice of reason. Libertarians know that both major political parties have taken America down the same road to ruin. Both parties have abandoned the Constitution and have eroded individual liberties. The only contest between the Republicans and the Democrats is a pissing contest. If you are not a Libertarian, you are part of the problem. The real question is, when are people like you going to join up with people like me?
Yes but Libertarians never vote for anyone even their own people because the candidates always aren't "liberal" enough or they just don't believe in voting.
That is a misnomer. Ron Paul is a constitutionalist libertarian who happens to run on the Republican ticket. It is not party affiliation that matters, it is the issues and what a candidate believes in. There could be a libertarian on the democrat side if one principled party member were to eventually emerge. The two major political parties conspire to keep third party candidates out of State and National elections by controlling election laws.
One only needs to watch " an Unreasonable Man" to see the power of the two party system. It is one big monster with two heads and both need to be removed before the door will be open for a legitimate multiparty system. As a person who embraces both liberal and conservative views as "defined" by the two parties, I voted for Badnarik in 04 for his stance against the war. I was living in a red state that was clearly voting GOP. It was a protest vote and I don't regret doing it one bit.
I agree. Americans would never tolerate having two choices in any other arena but politics. I watched "An Unreasonable Man" and while I can respect Ralph Nader for his devotion and tenacity when it comes to consumer issues I am opposed to him attempting to grow government in order to force his ideals at the point of a gun. Want to combat corporations? Vote with your feet and your dollar. Bring them to their knees with boycotts and protests. Do not use the state as a instrument of plunder.
I have no idea what you are referring to when you say libertarians aren't "liberal" enough. Libertarians are not liberals or socialists, nor are they neo-cons, fascists or quality of life, family value pushing, conservative moralists. Almost every libertarian who adopts this reasonable political philosophy is aware of these ideals before they join the cause.
Libertarians are for personal freedom coupled with personal responsibility. Libertarians want government out of their private and economics lives. They loath leviathan collectivism with the same fervor as they oppose State sponsored moral legislation. The best way to waste ones vote is to vote for the status quo. This is what America has had for about 100 years.
Kudos to Maher for letting Moyers flow. No momentum stifling interruptions. Showed him the respect he has earned. Love these dudes. It's a sad state of affairs that Limbaugh and Beck are reaching more people than these guys.
2012 is when the 99yr lease is up on the USA, just add 99 + 1913 and you have the date that The then President signed over power of the US Treasury to the Fedderal Reserve Bank. Numeralogy! See Films about the NWO and then get on with real life, if you can call it real.
The Best thought from the 60s- "Question Authority!!! -Better yet-altogether get rid of all authority!!!-Adults have none over each other-period!!! This means No More Governments will exist!!! We dont need them anymore!!!
I'm not familiar with Moyers (from Europe) but his opinions are thoughtful and insightful. I'd prefer if his type of mentality was more pervasive in the American news media (and electorate).
This was a very powerful interview. I respect and admire Bill Moyers, but he outdid himself this time. He has insight to what is going on--- he needs to have a heart to heart with our president. He could help him and this country--- we have no idea. Thanks Bill Maher for having Bill Moyers as your guest. Simply powerful!
He was all talk from the beginning. Every presidential candidate is. Every so many decades we'll get a truly great president like JFK, but the rest are just talk.
When you watch the debates you can see just how much talk they are. Obama kept saying "change change change!" but when people asked "change what?" he couldn't really answer. Mccain was the same.
There is one thing that especially like about today's world: you, Americans are going down. It's time to pay the price for all these wars you've started and all the people you've killed around the world. It's really nice to watch your country collapsing. Have a nice day.
Where are you from Andy? Poland? Russia? Germany? Yes I guess if your last name is Kciuk it doesn't sound Irish. lol. Unless you change it to McKciuk. I've never been to Ireland, but one day hope to visit my family there.
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Bill Moyers is a self-absorbed rambling windbag. "BLAH BLAH BLAH HERE'S WHO I WORKED FOR, HERE'S ALL THE MEMORABLE GREAT STUFF I EXPERIENCED BLAH BLAH BLAH" who the fuck cares
I've never seen Maher restrain his acerbic wit for anyone before. But if anyone deserves that kind of respect, it's Bill Moyers. I'm surprised the topic of religion was brought up though.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
Real hijackers are those who hijack this country into wars with the Middle East and make themselves ancient leadership superstitious religion and a lot of money. Who made drone bombings that hurts our humanity in the eyes of those local most tough patriots in Afghanistan? They should be arrested, tried, and executed on the spot. Nobody should make wars a career just as making money an economy because both of them are indifferent, lake conscious and intelligent religious and civilities.
beancube2010 1 year ago
Tom Donohue says 'JUMP', and The Gop asks "How High"?
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
Look at Obama now. What has he proven in his promises to America? Squat! He's a one term president who has betrayed the trust of America in his oath, in his assurances for reformation, in his word. He's a liar. In the end he winds up standing side by side with Hitler, Stalin and Nero before the GOD of heaven in his betrayal of us! He's no greater nor lesser than these 1st degree murderers of history. Until America recognizes this betrayal nothing will change. The satirists won't change one iota.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
@utopiandesign You are the epitome of the definition of deluded.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered Guilty of exaggeration, yes. But not when it comes to our politicians extending to Americans the equivalent of placebo remedies. Are you familiar with the number 654,976? That's the number of Iraqi civilian casualties as of 2007 calculated by epidemiologists from Johns Hopkins University. 1,000,000+ today. Why such sacrifice of innocent human life? The insatiable greed, the tyrants of the US, the religious hypocrites (G.W. Bush) who declare Christ, who knew the loss of innocent life
utopiandesign 1 year ago
@utopiandesign So ? Obama was where the attack was directed by you.
Irq war was wrong, yes.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered John Surrat, one of the masterminds of the plot escaped from the Ford Theatre with the hit man John Wilkes Booth on the night of April 14, 1865. He was tracked by the State Department to Canada, where he was sheltered by Catholic priests; and from Canada to London, where he was sheltered by priests in a Catholic rectory. And from London to Rome. When finally caught, he was found in the Pope’s private army, from whence he was brought back to the United States and hanged for his crime.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
@utopiandesign SO ? you intolerant of religions ? There are many , many
conspiracy theories yours is just another very, very unremarkable one.
JFK assassination, Jesuit, Jew, Reconquista, Bigfoot, 911 inside job etc.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered To illustrate how deception has been tucked away from public knowledge, in the 19th century, an ex-Catholic priest, Father Charles Chiniquy, wrote a book, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome. In this book he chronicled his interviews with President Abraham Lincoln. Many private conversations were preserved by Charles Chiniquy in his book revealing Lincoln’s knowledge of Rome’s involvement in the Civil war as well as his foreknowledge concerning his death.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
@huckstered You uplift the dignity of Lincoln on "My Channel." That's a worthy work. Did you know that Lincoln was assassinated by Jesuit puppets from the Roman Catholic Church? Read the court records. The Vatican’s highly venerated Pope Pius IX wrote in his Encyclical Letter of August 15, 1854: "The absurd and erroneous doctrines or ravings in defense of liberty of conscience is a most pestilential error: a pest above all others most to be dreaded in a state." The pope blessed Jefferson Davis.
utopiandesign 1 year ago
Hey Ladybirb?Sen any Praying Mantis'?
gary7999 1 year ago
Thank You for posting these videos. I really enjoy both Bill Moyers and Bill Maher. I cannot afford the cable channel for Bill Maher's show and I really hate missing that show.
Thank You!
BOHEMIANWAVE 1 year ago
Bill moyers is a person wth great insght in history ,and a true idealist . Bill maher , is a great comiedian and social liberatarian ,PRESIDENT/ VICE PRESIDENT ! Im for it !
steviebkhall 2 years ago 3
I have been so puzzled by President Obama's stance and his vision of what reform would ultimately look like. To hear Bill Moyers say that even Obama is in bed with the health insurance industry is awfully disheartening. How are we ever going to get health care reform then? I don't see the mass demonstrations that he is talking about happening anytime soon. Besides, isn't it naive to think legislators would renounce the health care industry even for that?
Doleafol 2 years ago
"don't see the mass demonstrations that he is talking about happening anytime soon"
that's because this country is stupid and lives in a vacuum. It's sad how few people know what the truth is. Hopefully people wake up before it's too late.
All I know is if Obama doesn't stop acting like such a pussy, I'm going independent in 2012. No loaf is Palin. A half loaf is Obama. This country need a full loaf.
dwoodall8979 2 years ago
No doubt, brother.
I'm very open-minded to whoever has good ideas that work, so I've been registered Independent since 2001. I keep most politics to myself, and don't advertise anything that wound outright anger my fellow prentitous liberal friends.
Who by the way, have some great ideas, but somehow always end of getting just as corrupted as the opposing side when it comes to greed and power. Which is just Hatred at its root.
StriderIsAragorn 2 years ago
campaign finance reform.
bluescholars 2 years ago
@bluescholars the supreme court crushed it
tallsmile28 2 years ago
Agreed - need to get away from all this polarization.
IE Right wing thinks X, Left wing thinks Y on every issue.
It's ridiculous....hopefully most people have varying opinions (left/right) depending on the issue. The public need to separate themselves from the political wrangling going on...realize it's a game and make up their own minds based on as much information as they can find.
GBladon 2 years ago
It's just good to hear rational thought and no talk of "Death Panels"....The discussion (as it appears in the mainstream media anyway) is more about yelling, spreading BS and encouraging ignorance.
GBladon 2 years ago 3
People...either Democrat or Republican or independent...doesn't matter to me.
All I'm saying is that this is one of the only rational discussions I've heard about public Health care and how it's a good thing and inevitable. Getting past the fear-mongering by Republicans and Back-sliding by the Democrats and how to actually get it done sooner or later.
GBladon 2 years ago
Great Interview...Bill Moyers is one smart guy.
Seeing this gives me a little more faith that Americans have the capacity to straighten themselves out a little...
GBladon 2 years ago 2
forgot to DVR this, thanks for posting!
KingThallion 2 years ago
both heroes in different ways. truth wins in the end...
lookout3333 2 years ago
Thank you for the post ladybird.
I've been listening to Moyer for over 3 decades and I've found, other than religion, he has no agenda; he's not driven by financial gain, his only aim is to inform the public without bias. A great journalist.
Anyone who likes this interview should do a search for a video of his speach on the media titled "The Plantation".
Thanks again.
882me 2 years ago 8
anytime.
ladybird1953 2 years ago
"Great presidents have the power to move people by words; and then by making the choices that back up those words."
-Bill Moyers
Great quote.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago 2
Oh word up congressman Wiener is on sept 11. Fuck I gotta watch that
AlphaHorizon 2 years ago
Thanks for this post. What a wonderful man.
bgibeau 2 years ago 2
When Bill Moyers talks, you learn and you know he telling the truth because you feel it in your heart.
tjfgermany58123 2 years ago 6
He is a wonderful man.
keelorenz 2 years ago
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It's hard to tell the asshole from the dick....
marklross2 2 years ago
You need to spend some time in other countries if this feels like the "shits"
Jeankaiwi 2 years ago
Change happens. There is no stopping it. Whether it happens violently, or peacefully, is simply a matter of how obstructionist the government is.
Jonobos 2 years ago
Not wanting to change our health care system is like having a bleeding dog and not wanting to take it to the vet.
CaptainCologne 2 years ago 5
Thank you very much for posting this.
emperor3d 2 years ago 4
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Bill Moyers seems to think that it is the job of the president to be some sort of superman that tells everybody what to do.
pro404 2 years ago
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***** wake up Obama.....
ubuibiok 2 years ago 2
If Conservatives oppose big government they should shut up about abortion and gay marriage (not the governments business), and argue for the Pentagon's ridiculous budget to be slashed and corporate welfare to be outlawed.
Its corporate welfare which is bankrupting America.
Relugus 2 years ago 38
Yes, health care is a moral issue. It never fails to amaze me that radical right *Christians* don't seem to get it that Jesus (as in Jesus Christ) taught his followers to love the poor and the sinful. He taught compassion and kindness - so what's the *each man for himself* deal? What is with the anger and the self-righteousness? It was the Pharisees who were criticized by Jesus for paying more attention to the letter of the law than the spirit, so why the right wing arrogance?
jubileeklezmer 2 years ago 28
@jubileeklezmer I'm not religious and don't believe in God but I'd really like it if Christians acted more like real Christians, if Christians acted more like Jesus. The message of Jesus from my understanding was the Golden Rule, and in its infancy that was the message of Christianity. When Constantine came though, the message came all about the Cross and converting others and violence and bloodshed.
Christians need to refer back to Jesus's message which barely any Christian follows today.
andyx1205 1 year ago
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Here's a new metaphor: The conservatives are a group of people who want to get wasted on opiates, smash mail boxes and fire shots at the moon while howling and laughing... The liberals are the one's pulling the TP out of the trees in the neighborhood and sending the conservatives to the Methadone clinic... Nobody likes the party-pooper, and liberals are tired of cleaning up after conservatives. Oh, BTW, China is "feeding" ALL of us with loaned money.. Next time you eat, thank god, AND Jintao
straightsixstyle 2 years ago 6
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straightsixstyle 2 years ago
I've lived in both Canada and the US, and experienced both health care systems. Both share one thing. Hard core socialists in Canada act like rabid dogs when someone suggests that a private option should be available.
And (typically) conservative Americans have the same reaction when a universal option is discussed.
Funny, both groups (Canadian Socialists, American Conservatives) think of each other as pure evil, yet they both want absolutely no change to existing healthcare.
brookbanks 2 years ago 3
which health care is better?
apacheslim 2 years ago
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brookbanks 2 years ago
Im not sure how you see me as whining and I am in a high enough tax bracket that I am contributor, not a "feeder". Interesting though that instead of offering some examples of good conservative leadership and telling me some of the policies you have in mind to fix whatever you feel is broken, all you can manage to do is continue to suck your thumb. All I asked for is for you to expand your point and name some politicians or policies you feel would right the ship. You cant seem to do ithat
entropicsteve 2 years ago 2
Over the last 29 years, the GOP has had the Presidency for 20 of them. They have also controlled the House and Senate for a good amount of time as well. So you say the country is lost and you blame the Democrats, and yet your party has had the reigns for the majority of 30 years. Is it that hard to at least consider that the GOP has made some terrible decisions and caused some of the trouble we are currently in or do you just want to blame the new guy who's been in office less than a year?
entropicsteve 2 years ago 7
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Conservatives are not GOP or republican and Conservatives know more about the state of the economy than any stupid Democrat who feeds off the rest of the American citizens.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
Your debating skills are beyond reproach. Who can argue with such a well structured and articulated position? Conservatives might know something about the economy, but for some reason they spend more energy worrying about gay marraige and abortion than in implementing sound fiscal policies. Can you give me an example of one of your favorite conservative leaders and outline some policies that might benefit our country? At least pass some useful information and stop the childish whining?
entropicsteve 2 years ago 6
Hell, your whining about me and I'm a conservative so how is the feeding going?
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
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Hillary was right about Barack Hussein Obama being a fucking fraud. hahahaha!!!!!!!
oneviwatara 2 years ago
He must have been the only one who didn't know JFK was fooling around. We, who lived in South Florida at the time knew all about Mrs. Earl E.T. Smith and others. Moyers has always been too much of an idealist, although he's an admirable man.
SmolderingRuin 2 years ago
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2 Libs = radical leftism
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
you sure know how to make a mountain out of a mole hill. if thats the standard for being a radical, then why isn't the majority of republican party an enemy of the state? osama bin laden had less hate in his rhetoric than these people. i think it's time for you to stop being so dramatic, and quit labeling those who don't agree with your inbred philosophies. this country is a melting pot of cultures and political ideals...that's democracy, you fascist.
unwashablebrain 2 years ago 2
radical leftism = freedom
notbarackobama16 2 years ago 2
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Radical leftism = freedom to screw the American citizens but, they will get there"s and should be tried for treason for making a mockery out of the USA
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
your poor spelling aside, try looking to your Repub leaders for a lesson in radicalism and making a mockery of the American spirit.
ladybird1953 2 years ago
Your poor spelling aside, try looking to the Conservatives for leadership since there is only incompetence on the mockery of your Democrats who have no American spirit.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
TheNewVideo - We had enough over the last 8 years of conservative incompetence from the little fake president and his fake war and the destruction of our economy and our standing in the world. You call the greed and lies of the conservatives the "American Spirit"? lol What a joke.
MsJulieCarol 2 years ago 2
Instead of complaining about someone's spelling, maybe you should focus on fixing your grammar.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
Isn't nice you have non believers of your party to correct? What would you do without US? Feed off the animals I suppose...........
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
Hey NewVideo - The 8 years of the Bush/Chenney/Rove regime was a mockery of democracy, the Constitution, Free Speech and just about every ideal that Republicans say they honor. Your party is not only unpatriotic, they dont even understand basic governement process any more. Not to mention the hypocracy of their pious thumping of "family values" as they chase male staffers around the office or run off to Argentina to cheat on their wives. Get your own House in order before you lecture the left.
entropicsteve 2 years ago 4
The mockery you leech will be defeated in next years elections.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
this is what I mean by the death of democracy. Instead of engaging in civil dialogue and trying to at least understand the perspective of the "other" side, extremists, whether right or left, quickly degrade into ad hominin attacks and chest pounding. Why call me a leech instead of adressing the hypocrisies? You dont know me at all other than that I do not share your political views. Is that your vision of democracy and "The American Way of Life"? To just slander those who dont agree with you?
entropicsteve 2 years ago
I think the world needs a little less of your "American spirit" right now. You guys did a pretty good job of messing the whole world up for the rest of us, we were sort of hoping you would takea break, maybe fix some stuff in your own country for a while. After all, there is a lot to fix. If our country was in as bad shape as yours, I would be quietly getting together with my opponents and asking "ok, how the hell did we sink so low"?
morganbath 2 years ago 3
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America will only be fixed when these Democrats are voted out of office and everything they did is reversed. plus decreasing taxes and legislation so America can become what it should be, free.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
Americans are very strange people. You seem to judge a Presidency by how the country is the day they take office, rather than how much it has changed (for better or worse) the day they leave office. Its like you think Obama is responsibly for your bad economy, your total lack of standing in the world, your partisan aggression and the fact that thousands of your people died in a war that has made you less safe.
What has he done in the few months he has been president that were worse than that?
morganbath 2 years ago 8
Yeah NewVideo...America was really on the right track with Bush in office - deficit spending to fund useless wars, the near collapse of the banking system, subverting the Constituion, alientating the few allies we have left in the world. Very solid effort. The GOP brings the nation to near collapse and then starts crying about the Democrats ruining things after they have been in power for 8 months. You need some serious therapy man or at least a hand job from Rush Limbaugh to ease some stress!
entropicsteve 2 years ago 4
@TheNewVideo The only person that should be tried and Publicly executed is George Bush for LYING To America! WHERE ARE THE WMD'S.?
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
and your point is exactly what, in regard to the interview or health care reform?
ladybird1953 2 years ago
@TheNewVideo The Gop and The US Chamber of Commerce = more jobs to China/India/Mexico thanks to the fact that Republicans voted Against the Anti Sourcing Bill.!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
Moyers is a collectivist promoting dinosaur with a mind frozen in amber. Fortunately, more and more Americans are beginning to finally realize that New Deal and Great Society programs only spawn more socialism, less personal freedom and bigger government. Republican socialists programs equate to the same. To quote a statesman, "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."
protectedparody 2 years ago
You mean like the big fat "conservative" Bush government that took a balanced budget with a surplus and built the largest deficit in US history?
You mean the compassionate conservative hoax that invaded a sovereignty with no founded justification and created a "war: and called it a Liberation for freedom? Are you talking about an administration that, in an effort
to disguise a failing economy, created a real etsate boom pumped with unethical loan practices?
xtranaut 2 years ago
Yes, the New Deal and Great Society promoted the Social Security and Medicare that are there for your parents and grandparents ( that's a bummer, isn't it?), an interstate highway system better than anywhere in the world, clean water, a reasonable safe food supply, reliable power and communications across one of the largest ( in land area) countries in the world, up until Bush - a decent, inclusive educational system that put millions of Americans into the middle class...
oh, my guvmint sucks!
ladybird1953 2 years ago
Social Security is the biggest Ponzie scheme this Nation has ever seen and was never intended as a means of survival for retirees. Just try living off it at age 65 if it is still there. Medicare is nearly bankrupt as well. The interstate highway system was initially built to move military troops and cargo rapidly across the nation. The Government education system was producing illiterate graduates in disproportionate numbers long before Bush. Government is the problem, not the solution.
protectedparody 2 years ago
@protectedparody--Government is the problem, not the solution. I hear this all the time. But what does that mean? Is government the problem when they send the fire department to hose down your home when it catches fire? Or when they send the cops to your house because someone's trying to break in? Or when you're using the court system to get what's rightfully yours?
That's the government.
satyricon451 2 years ago
@protectedparody--And sure Social Security isn't enough to live off. But what else is there; the market? At least with Social Security, you as a citizen of the United States have some influence on the outcome.
I think it might be fair if you could opt out. Maybe get a tax refund or credit so that you can spend your money as you please.
but honestly, sloganeering with "government is the problem, not the solution" gets us nowhere. Come on man.
satyricon451 2 years ago
You as a citizen have no control over the outcome if the Social Security system is bankrupt by the time you retire. Also you have no right to the money you have paid in until the government says so. Give me the money I currently have Socialist Security, which is perhaps paying 1 to 2 percent, not enough to keep up with inflation and I can do better, even in the market, over the long haul. Ever hear of GOLD? I am glad to know you believe in the right to opt out. There is hope for you.
protectedparody 1 year ago
Ok. So we go back to a gold standard. Fine. Then does that mean that we have to walk around with gold in our pockets? Because gold's heavy.
satyricon451 1 year ago
You're kidding, right? The U.S. was once on the gold standard. People still carried paper money, silver, copper and gold coins. The difference was that the money was actually backed by something of value, gold. Now it is backed by nothing and the Federal Reserve prints money out of thin air that is worthless. Two books I'll recommend to you, "Meltdown" by Thomas Woods and "What Has Government Done To Our Money" by Murray N. Rothbard. These books will answer your questions.
protectedparody 1 year ago
@protectedparody
I would expect someone going by
protectedparody to know that I'm kidding
satyricon451 1 year ago
I thought so. The book recommendations however, are no joke.
protectedparody 1 year ago
Agreed, its astounding that the powers that be (namely corporations) can divert the public's attention by placing the blame on the government when in fact the government is, in most cases, taking orders from them.
Bd951 1 year ago
@Bd951
One of the Federalist themes is that ambition would be used to check ambition, which if I recall speaks to the power of the president and the congress. However if we impose this on the corporation, the question we must ask is what is the ambition of the corporation?
Money. And that's fine. I'm not against business. But I don't find that very comforting. Besides, Progressivism was a response to corporate excess at the expense of average, working American among other things.
satyricon451 1 year ago
Kennedy said,"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country". The Republicans practice the opposite." What can my country do for me? " Fuck every one else!
spankeydmonkey 2 years ago 5
I'm no republican but how is democrat socialism any different from republican socialism?
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
jeffersonianideal- The difference between the Gop and the Demos is that the Gop is for Big Corporations. Whereas the Demos are for the people. Americans being the dummies that they are are easily conned. Just wave the flag at them . Quote the Bible and add a few slogans. It matters not that the people doing it have never served their country in the military. However, they can spew hatred from all the media. This is what Americans fall for every time.
spankeydmonkey 2 years ago
The democrats and republicans are two sides of the same coin. What "people" are you referring to? The people who work hard for themselves and families only to see their paychecks eaten up by oppressive taxes that go for needless government spending? How about those non-violent citizens like Bill Maher who can't enjoy their intoxicant of choice in privacy of their own home. You can thank Joe Biden, a democrat and one of the architects of the war on drugs.
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
As long as people like you make this an issue of which political party is responsible for what, nothing will get solved. Let's face it, the blame game may be entertaining but ultimately solves nothing. Let's stop pointing the finger and wasting twice as much time and figure out how everyone can benefit, regardless on what issue.
CaptainSteve0112 2 years ago
People like me, namely libertarians, are the voice of reason. Libertarians know that both major political parties have taken America down the same road to ruin. Both parties have abandoned the Constitution and have eroded individual liberties. The only contest between the Republicans and the Democrats is a pissing contest. If you are not a Libertarian, you are part of the problem. The real question is, when are people like you going to join up with people like me?
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
Yes but Libertarians never vote for anyone even their own people because the candidates always aren't "liberal" enough or they just don't believe in voting.
ferky12 2 years ago
Part 1:
That is a misnomer. Ron Paul is a constitutionalist libertarian who happens to run on the Republican ticket. It is not party affiliation that matters, it is the issues and what a candidate believes in. There could be a libertarian on the democrat side if one principled party member were to eventually emerge. The two major political parties conspire to keep third party candidates out of State and National elections by controlling election laws.
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
One only needs to watch " an Unreasonable Man" to see the power of the two party system. It is one big monster with two heads and both need to be removed before the door will be open for a legitimate multiparty system. As a person who embraces both liberal and conservative views as "defined" by the two parties, I voted for Badnarik in 04 for his stance against the war. I was living in a red state that was clearly voting GOP. It was a protest vote and I don't regret doing it one bit.
ecosmart123 2 years ago
I agree. Americans would never tolerate having two choices in any other arena but politics. I watched "An Unreasonable Man" and while I can respect Ralph Nader for his devotion and tenacity when it comes to consumer issues I am opposed to him attempting to grow government in order to force his ideals at the point of a gun. Want to combat corporations? Vote with your feet and your dollar. Bring them to their knees with boycotts and protests. Do not use the state as a instrument of plunder.
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
Part 2:
I have no idea what you are referring to when you say libertarians aren't "liberal" enough. Libertarians are not liberals or socialists, nor are they neo-cons, fascists or quality of life, family value pushing, conservative moralists. Almost every libertarian who adopts this reasonable political philosophy is aware of these ideals before they join the cause.
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
Part 3:
Libertarians are for personal freedom coupled with personal responsibility. Libertarians want government out of their private and economics lives. They loath leviathan collectivism with the same fervor as they oppose State sponsored moral legislation. The best way to waste ones vote is to vote for the status quo. This is what America has had for about 100 years.
jeffersonianideal 2 years ago
Kudos to Maher for letting Moyers flow. No momentum stifling interruptions. Showed him the respect he has earned. Love these dudes. It's a sad state of affairs that Limbaugh and Beck are reaching more people than these guys.
sonicjohnson 2 years ago 8
2012 is when the 99yr lease is up on the USA, just add 99 + 1913 and you have the date that The then President signed over power of the US Treasury to the Fedderal Reserve Bank. Numeralogy! See Films about the NWO and then get on with real life, if you can call it real.
clarisd 2 years ago
The Best thought from the 60s- "Question Authority!!! -Better yet-altogether get rid of all authority!!!-Adults have none over each other-period!!! This means No More Governments will exist!!! We dont need them anymore!!!
HABAKKUP 2 years ago
I'm not familiar with Moyers (from Europe) but his opinions are thoughtful and insightful. I'd prefer if his type of mentality was more pervasive in the American news media (and electorate).
october4891647 2 years ago 7
This was a very powerful interview. I respect and admire Bill Moyers, but he outdid himself this time. He has insight to what is going on--- he needs to have a heart to heart with our president. He could help him and this country--- we have no idea. Thanks Bill Maher for having Bill Moyers as your guest. Simply powerful!
FLL999 2 years ago 7
AGREED!
raiders747 2 years ago
I deeply respect Moyers but he is way naive. Since the Regan Revolution, MONEY controls US Politics.
You don't like it? Then don't vote Republican and push the Democrats for real GOVERNMENT REFORM. No lobbies, no campaign donations etc..
comradevodka 2 years ago
When I voted for Obama I thought he would be much stronger than he is.
The smarts are there. The spine is not.
Yes he is probably better than McCain would have been. But still...were is the fire?
darcskies777 2 years ago 5
He was all talk from the beginning. Every presidential candidate is. Every so many decades we'll get a truly great president like JFK, but the rest are just talk.
When you watch the debates you can see just how much talk they are. Obama kept saying "change change change!" but when people asked "change what?" he couldn't really answer. Mccain was the same.
That's politics.
kaikou1098 2 years ago
when he was talking about JFK i started choking up a little bit
JayRocFly 2 years ago
Nice interview.
There is one thing that especially like about today's world: you, Americans are going down. It's time to pay the price for all these wars you've started and all the people you've killed around the world. It's really nice to watch your country collapsing. Have a nice day.
andyKCIUK 2 years ago
Do you know how the new boss is going to be? Same as the old boss.
The US hardly has the monopoly on spreading pain in foreign lands. You're Irish, you should know.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
I actually don't think the new boss is going to be same...
And BTW, I live in Ireland, that doesn't mean I'm Irish... 8)
andyKCIUK 2 years ago
Where are you from Andy? Poland? Russia? Germany? Yes I guess if your last name is Kciuk it doesn't sound Irish. lol. Unless you change it to McKciuk. I've never been to Ireland, but one day hope to visit my family there.
daskitso 2 years ago
Don't bet on it.
btinder711 2 years ago
thanks
TheItalix 2 years ago
thank you for posting this it is truely brain food.
sana1999 2 years ago 5
Very interesting.
Thanks for posting
TheMikeDoc 2 years ago 2
Mahr stepped up to the plate on this one! If the opposition did the same I could consider myself well informed. Thanks for posting it.
TheJazzgirl9 2 years ago
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Bill Moyers is a self-absorbed rambling windbag. "BLAH BLAH BLAH HERE'S WHO I WORKED FOR, HERE'S ALL THE MEMORABLE GREAT STUFF I EXPERIENCED BLAH BLAH BLAH" who the fuck cares
todnyc 2 years ago
Troll harder
trelane227 2 years ago
enjoy your downvote dirtbag
ephemerol 2 years ago
I hope somebody shows this interview to obama. He is really beginning to look like either a pussy or a sell out.
six25 2 years ago 15
I've never seen Maher restrain his acerbic wit for anyone before. But if anyone deserves that kind of respect, it's Bill Moyers. I'm surprised the topic of religion was brought up though.
killerecho 2 years ago 15
WASN'T, I'm surprised it *wasn't brought up.
killerecho 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Bill Moyers gives me a slight glimmer of hope for the future.
ord1711 2 years ago 11
Thanks! Moyers is a national treasure.
JesusSavesAtCitibank 2 years ago 21
Holy shit, back with the normal show ... SEPTEMBER 11 ?????? This is going to be interesting.
akamola 2 years ago 4
Smart!
iryna 2 years ago 10