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  • Why r u watching this if you dont belive in God or Jesus ? I mean realy people y'all just wanna start as much bull crap as you can

  • Satan is good. Satan is my pal.

  • If he were a Muslim he would have planted an explosive on that laptop.

  • Wow. I just read some of the comments below. I find it extraordinary how hateful people will be when they disagree with somebody. You atheists below are truly the lowest of low of all religious and non religious people I have met. Your arrogance is both telling and frightening.

  • @WestSkier11 i dont believe in god, and im not atheist, thats just another category lol, its funny how you people can believe in some of the stupidest shit.

  • @HyWire20 you are 100% correct. Atheists act just as bad as radical evangelicals and Muslims who feel they are superior to everybody.

  • You atheists amuse me. You claim and pretend to not believe in anything but you do. You have to muster great faith to believe in nothing. When you hear the word "Christian" you scowl in disgust. But when you hear Muslim, Hindu, or Scientologist you are ok with it. I am sure nobody would have been in an putrage if Tim Tebow prayed to Allah. For the record, almost every single one of the foundng fathers was protestant (christian) and that the many of the things they stood for was based off the Bi

  • All hail, Satan.

  • This is how American Tradition Celebrated their Christmas. look how many american dislike this celebration. how come american people disrespect the value of their tradition. I am not an American, but in my country I studied about this tradition celebration in my Church. Love this video.

  • @danielsihombing We can dislike it because this country was built on the idea of free religion. I am not Christian, I do not like this.

  • @KristinaApril : This is how paris fall to the radical islam. because at that time they don't care about their value. and now they try to claim it back and regret everything. I don't force you to like or dislike this video. I want you to see it from different ways. if you say you are not Christian. isn't it part of the history of your country? see it from other side. I am not bringing religion in this video, but I see it from the tradition and history.

  • i love how dumb hicks believe that if god had a kid he wouldnt be a human but i guess folk tales can fool anybody

  • Atheist <3

  • @KristinaApril HEATHEN!

  • @knucks360 NOWAY!

  • Oh my holy laptop. Forgive me.

  • What would Jesus do? HE'D SHOOT THE MUTHAFUCKIN LAPTOP!! A FUCKIN MEN!!

  • maybe Hannah is in this video but I'm not sure > v=5fnCq2SJrvY - in any case, good luck to this family and a hard drama to resolve.

  • Is this the most depressing Christmas I've ever seen? What is this about?

  • Hail Lord Santa Claus, patron saint of the holy virtues of greed and materialism!

  • If my pastor was putting robot vocal effects over her singing and playing a tape recorded sermon for the CHRISTMAS SERVICE (!?), I'd start looking for a new church! Looks like most of your community has the same idea, judging by all the empty pews.

  • stupid ass christians. The bible is a fairy tale. You listen to it like it is something that actually happened.

  • @master0675HF it did happen! some guys made up a bunch of shit, wrapped it around some real stuff, and have been selling it to misguided fools ever since! what's to doubt about that? guns, god and the heartland made America what it is today. which is why intelligent people usually live on the coasts or aspire to.

    If anyone disputes that, pull out your .45 and speak with it. It is a measure of your manhood that you own lots of guns and can threaten your daughter with them.

  • i like this Song we Sang in our church in Sign Language

  • PEW PEW PEW BULLET IN THE LAPTOP HERRR DERR DERR!!!

  • praise be allah

  • Disobedient Hannah is not in the picture, as expected.

  • Fuck christianity

  • @Skolthorn thats your opinion...

  • @Skolthorn There's the intelligent remark we were all missing. Good on you son.

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  • @jesuslambofgod345 Simple, If you were part of Jesus's following or one of his disciples than you would want to claim you have direct contact with god himself. Claims like that give you power over your peers, look at all the wealthy pastors around America and other parts of the world.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness now i see why you don't believe. thanks to the 'testimony' who pseudo christians who make use of the gospel to serve their own prosperous ends but dun really believe hence obey God (anybody can claim to be a Christian). Jesus never made 'Christians'

  • @BusinesslsBusiness he came to make followers of Christ. if a person calls himself a Christian but doesn't really follow Christ in his behaviour and actions, you can't call him a follower of Christ. the true meaning of being a follower of Christ, is persecution and suffering. giving up the easier route and the things we like, to conform to righteousness instead of the ways of the wrold

  • @jesuslambofgod345 Well the bible was written by man, so therefor everything in The Bible is extremely suspect right off the bat. 99 % "miracles" in the bible are impossible and have been proven through Science to be impossible. The Bible was written by alot of different "authors" so that lowers the credibility even further.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness i live in Singapore but there are those people in Africa, India, China, even muslim countries (go read up) who really suffer for their faith, and they gain nothing worldly from it, but love joy happiness and peace. (oh and if you say that's similar to suicide bombers and stuff, Christians suffer for love and peace).

  • @jesuslambofgod345 my point is that i guess you ain't believing coz u think Christians are like those bad eggs you see in america...which i feel sorry for, hope you will meet a Christian who really behaves like Christ so you will really know what Christ is like, and believe

  • @jesuslambofgod345 We can't really know what Jesus of Nazareth was like because we've never met him and never will meet him. We only have ancedotal evidence coming from a 2000+ year old book to go off.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness You will see him again during the 2nd coming. In the meantime, he lives in those who truly believe and obey Christ. you have certain expectation of how a Christian behaves i assume? when they see bad Christians they sorta intitutively know, hey that's not how a Christian should act. why? because there are actually real Christians out there who really are clothed in Christ's character.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness also, Have you watched the american show 'Undercover Boss'? Well imagine if the boss himself appeared to his ordinary workers. the workers would obviously work very hard in front of him. but it's only when he is undercover can he discover who are the hardworking ones and who are the ones who slack off when the boss ain't watching.

  • @jesuslambofgod345 I'm gonna take my leave from this video, really I don't hate you or anything I'm just trying to get you to look at it from my point of view. Later...

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  • The Bible on women inferiority "For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." - I Corithians 11:3.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness How's that inferiority? Men are supposed to protect women. I don't see anything wrong with that.

  • @NintendoAmy It states that women were created for the sole purpose for men. It also states that a man doesn't belong to a woman but a woman belong to a man. It's not that difficult to understand, even for a fundie like yourself.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness I'm going to try and stick to the mature side here and not insult you for your beliefs. I'm not going to stereotype you. Even though I can, I won't.

    It doesn't say the man is superior to the women. It's saying that the men are supposed to be the protectors. It say everything is equal. Just because on person doesn't have the same role as another doesn't make them inferior.

  • @NintendoAmy No it says that women were created for men. You're twisting the words to fit into your belief system. Any biblical scholar will tell you that's what it means whether you believe it yourself or not.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness Actually, any Biblical scholar won't. YOU'RE twisting it, because all you're providing is a SINGLE ambiguous verse and making a conclusion on it. THAT'S twisting it. You can't disagree that with, simply providing that verse, I'm incorrect. Because it's ambiguous and what I have said is completely valid as well. But the difference is what I have said is based off of other verses that actually explain this one. 

  • i'd hit that

  • Well, sweet cheeks, Christianity isn't a religion: it's a relationship.

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  • I dream of a land were people would not be judged by their group but of the "content of their character."

  • Fuck you and religion.

  • I don't understand why the preaching is all from a pre-recorded source? Seems very impersonal.

  • do they teach you to shoot laptops at church?

  • I have a daughter named Hannah and a .45, but I would never disrespect her in such a manor. May God be with Hannah and please touch her father.

  • @Skaggydog I dont think he disrespected her. People think teens are so fragile. What he did was a little tough love. Was it extreme? Yes. But what she did was so unbelievably childish that she needed to be taught a lesson in the same manner to get it through her spoiled brain. As a daughter myself, I give props to the man.

  • @PrincessCarly22 When your father makes an ass of himself in front of millions of people, that is disrespecting you!

  • @Skaggydog good point! Never mind that people will complain about columbine one minute saying "what's wrong with kids today?" then point at him blowing holes in a laptop and call it good parenting.

  • Its No Good That a Father Should Publicly Humiliating His Daughter..And I'm Hurt,Angry,Confused and afraid For Some of Y'all,As I've Read Some Of The Comments..So Here's My Response... 1- God Is Real, 2 -The Bible And Religion Is Man Made...Though The Writers Of The Scriptures in The Bible Were Directed By God's Spirit, & The Most Spiritual Man On Earth Can Become Legalistic And Religious about His Relationship With God. 3 - I think The Father Could Have Handled This With A Bit More Maturity..

  • @durtypaws This is where it all goes down hill, "Though The Writers Of The Scriptures in The Bible Were Directed By God's Spirit" you got to be kidding me. The same thing is said for every religion. "god's spirit was with them when they were writing the book." sure he was.

  • if only hannah knew what was in store for her new laptop nestled under the tree..

  • You should shoot these anti religion pricks.

  • Hannah forgot to mention your horrible church in her rebellious Facebook post.

  • lmfao sad.... Religion causes war and its just a fucking fairy tail everyone wants to live

  • lol jesus

  • i hear that lady on the left was talking shit about you in facebook. I think that's a laptop that needs shooting.

  • Mr. Jordan, just remember true love covers and protects --- it doesn't expose and abuse. I hope you and your family get help. Using a gun to destroy your daughter's laptop is overkill. There has to be a better means of communicating with your child.

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  • No wonder your daughter hates you...

  • RELIGION IS POSION. DEAL WITH IT

  • Is this what it's like every Sunday? It seems so unfair to you and the rest of the congregation. I would find a Bible study group outside of this circle to learn about the word and how we're supposed to live our lives. You deserve better than a tape recording. They need to get a real person in your church who can actually preach the word face to face.

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  • Jeezo, just hurry up and shoot them tommy.

    

  • Why are there more people filming this than in the pews? Sad.

  • Typical christian rednecks. FUck you.

  • @EthanShreve18 The people you call "rednecks" are the backbone of this nation, just remember that. I also find it very amusing that people who scream so hard about racism are the ones that marginalize an entire segment of American society.

  • @EthanShreve18 What you've just said is more ignorant than most of the things "christian rednecks" say.

    The hypocrisy of your post shows how ignorant you are.

  • Mentlegen, can we try to respect eachother? There's no reason to make fun of someone for beliefs. I'm a Christian, however I don't go on videos and insult people for their opposing beliefs.

  • @MrSwinehaven Religion is man-made. End of story.

  • @anime891 why are you so freaking prejudiced? let me guess you hate blacks and gays too.

  • @NintendoAmy it's not prejudice at all to say that the bible was man-made. it's a fact. just like how the Torah and the Quran are man-made. Religion is man-made. Why would I hate gays and blacks? Race and the person's ability to choose whichever gender they want is none of my concern and I treat them equally.

  • @anime891 don't play stupid with me. you know saying religion is man-made is the same thing as saying it's just a myth. keep your prejudiced beliefs to yourself.

  • @NintendoAmy Stupid, because it is a myth. These are not something to believe in. I don't have to BELIEVE that the Bible is man-made. I know that for a fact.

  • @anime891 It's not, and go take your prejudiced self somewhere else. People like you are the reason we had slaves. Prejudiced people like you who attack because you're so butthurt are the reason we can't have peace. People like you shouldn't exist.

  • @NintendoAmy The people who built the colonies through a foundation of slavery were religious people. Go back to history 101 and learn something. Peace? It is because of the difference in religious beliefs that most wars are stemmed. People like you should educate yourself.

  • @anime891 Pedophiles are usually atheist. Murders are usually atheist.

    So this must mean it is atheist's fault there are murders and pedophiles. Your logic makes so much sense.

    I love how you assume I know nothing of history. I love how you make a fool of yourself.

    Attacking people for religion, race, gender, it's all prejudiced. Bigots like you are the ones who caused it.

    Please don't tell me you're so ignorant you think all slave holders were religious.

  • No, not all slave holders were religious. Just the majority and by majority I mean like 95%. Hitler was a christian did you know that? WW2 was religiously charged, the Spanish inquisition was because of religion, the crusades, the current situation between lebanon, israel, and everything else going on in that part of the world is all religiously charged. And actually, most criminals are Christian. I don't bash on religion, but when ignorant people like you decide to post without facts.

  • @TechExpertZ And by ignorant, I mean the fact that you think people of religious faith are innocent because they believe in an invisible man in the sky.

  • @TechExpertZ Honestly, you don't realize how wrong you are. Religion didn't cause it at ALL.

    Tell me, what groups of people did Hitler target the most? It was the Jews. Why? Because he hated their religion. Did this mean that it was their religion's fault, or anyone's, that they were killed? No, it was Hitler being prejudiced towards religion.

    It's you people who attack religion who cause these wars. If their RELIGION WAS RESPECTED then this wouldn't have happened.

  • @NintendoAmy False. Where did Hitler state that the reason for killing the Jews was strictly religious? Think again. They had been discriminated against for centuries, so this was nothing new. However, in the Jews, Hitler saw a scapegoat to explain the problems that Germany had following the defeat in the First World War.

  • @anime891 You're saying Hitler didn't view the Jews as inferior? WTF?! That's what the whole thing was about! And you tell me to learn history 101. -_-

    Hitler actually denied Christianity. He bent it to help convince people to follow him, but he denied Christianity. This goes back to my point. If a religion can be so easily bent, you can't blame the religion but the person.

    A person should not be judged by their religion, but by the contents of their character.

  • @NintendoAmy Where did I say he didn't view the Jews as inferior? I said it wasn't strictly just that. You just mentioned the main problem of religion today. It is easily manipulated to control people with these "beliefs".

  • @anime891 It WAS strictly that. All unnecessary wars are caused by pride.

    Religion is in no way a bad thing. It's actually helpful to us. It gives people hope and helps people who struggle emotionally, and prevents things such as suicide.

    Religion has a bad name because of people who abuse it and ignorant people who don't understand it. The two dumbest things I've heard is "the bible says to kill gays" and "the bible supports slavery."

    It doesn't. It's the people who screw it up's fault.

  • @NintendoAmy People are confused in understanding the Bible because they can't accept the fact that it was written during a barbaric, bronze age. How about moving on and making our own rules. I live life freely and morally without the assumption of a supernatural. Only people who are scared of the inevitable and the mysterious linger with such congregations. A belief in God I can understand, but to say that dogmatic practices connect you to God? Get the hell out of here.

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  • @NintendoAmy Yeah, and religion is not one of them. Religion only says that morality does not come from nature, but an external supernatural source. How ridiculous. Free? Atheism is free. Religion does not free the mind, it imprisons it. And show me in the Bible where a pedophile or a rapist can go to heaven. From what I know they have to be really sorry about their sins and confess first. But other than that, if you are a rapist that was never sorry, you're not going.

  • @anime891 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (R10:13)

    The entire Christian doctrine is about how all you have to do is ask to go to heaven. It's not about works, and actually...

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (E2:8-9)

    Specifically says you should not be prideful, because it's "not of works." Again, even a rapist could go to heaven. It's faith, no apologies.

  • @NintendoAmy A rapist will die and join the Earth from which it stemmed. Simple as that. No supernatural explanation is needed.

  • @anime891 That's your belief, and I respect that.

    Why can't you respect other people?

  • @NintendoAmy Wow, we're talking about going and not going to heaven. How pathetic, really.

  • @NintendoAmy The Bible is against homosexuality. And I'm not surprised if it supported slavery. They lived in an age that was abundant of slavery.

  • @anime891 But it doesn't. The Bible clearly states homosexuals can go to Heaven, and does not, anywhere, support slavery.

    And "that age," you're referring to the Old Testament. Again, more Bible ignorance that makes people hate the Bible. No Christian doctrine, WHATSOEVER, comes from the Old Testament.

    The Bible doesn't take a stand on slavery at all. Because it leaves it up for US to decide how we should punish people. It never commands us to punish people in a specific way. It's our choice.

  • @TechExpertZ No, actually you're wrong. A majority of slave holders WEREN'T religious.

    Guess what else, most criminals claim to be atheist. Thus, that proves a fact that ALL atheists are criminals. It doesn't? But by your logic, since some religious people commit crimes, that means ALL of them do.

    Oh, what about the criminals that are evolutionists. Does that mean it's the theory of evolution that causes people to commit crimes?

  • @NintendoAmy You don't need any logic to know statistics such that 75% of prisoners in the U.S are Christian and only .5% are atheist, according to the Federal Bureau of Prison.

  • @anime891 everyone in prison claims to have a religion. 0% of them claim to be atheists.

  • @NintendoAmy I never said that ALL slave holders were religious, but that majority of people who decided to use slavery were religious and you can't deny that. The foundation for which the colonies were built and slavery arose was mostly religious. That's not even the point here, the point is that religion is poison, regardless of what good it may bring. You are still polluting yourself with something that has no evidence to support it, and people lay their lives for it.

  • @anime891 no, it doesn't matter. Even if they were ALL Christians, that only SUPPORTS my point. If a religion is so easily bendable, then you can't blame the religion. It's people like you, who oppress other religions and views others as inferior, and attack because of it, that causes the wars.

    Religion doesn't cause any disruption, it's only an excuse for it.

    revelife.com/729742727/religio­n-does-not-cause-war-contrary-­to-popular-belief/

  • @NintendoAmy You just said it, religion can be manipulated, and when it does, it's control is quite powerful. Just look at the world today. How logically and rationally inept we are a species. Religion causes all kinds of disruptions, and anyone that has ever been religious and knows the power of belief and what it can do should know this. It disrupts the way we think, and history can vouch for that.

  • @anime891 So you're saying the pencil writes the essay?

    Religion doesn't bend itself, it's used as a tool. It doesn't CAUSE war, the arrogant discriminators is what causes the wars.

    History cannot "vouch for that," that doesn't even make sense.

  • @NintendoAmy If you look up the definition of vouch it might. I never said religion doesn't bend itself either, I clearly said it can be manipulated. It is you that isn't making any sense.

  • @anime891 See, again, more assumptions. I know the definition of "vouch," do thanks for making a fool of yourself again.

    You don't understand me because you're purposely not. It's selective listening. You only hear stupidity because you are convinced you can't be wrong, and so anything that possibly doesn't agree with you comes across as outrageous.

    Let me explain it in layman's terms. You blame the religion. The religion is bent, implying it's its own fault. When it's the person's fault.

  • @NintendoAmy Because there is nothing to understand. You are supporting a poisonous cause. Religion in itself is manipulative in the way we think, especially about the natural world around us, which is why 98% of the scientists in the world reject a personal God. If people were to break lose of religious dogma, I don't doubt that our species will excel hundred fold.

  • @anime891 Making up statistics is pretty low. Let me give you some real statistic, 76% of doctors believe in God, due to the very nature of their work. Someone who deals with life has more of a say in the afterlife than a person who deals in evolution.

    And talking about an afterlife is pathetic? And yet, you provide no reasons why. Just shows you're one of those people who oppress, the kind that cause all the problems.

  • @NintendoAmy It is pathetic because no one can prove nor disprove it and yet here we are believing in such feebleness. I don't blame the doctors for believing in a personal god, because like you said, the very nature of their work. So, having that said, I think we can all agree that religion and God are only derived when something is pertained to the mysterious, or in a doctor's case, death and suffering.

  • @anime891 EVERYTHING is based on faith. EVERYTHING! The Theory of Evolution may have tons of supporting facts, but it's sadly not a fact. So by believing it you are still putting your FAITH in it. Faith isn't pathetic, it's honorable.

    And no, that's not my point. I was saying plenty of people, like doctors, use religion to HELP them. It's not a bad thing.

    It's like you're saying medicine is a bad thing. Just because someone abuses something good, does not make it bad.

  • @NintendoAmy Evolution is our best understanding of how life had evolved from a single cell organism into what we are now. It's either that, or God made us. It's up to you. Faith in evolution is different from having faith in a supernatural. There's actually evidence that supports evolution. Religion is faith on supernatural beliefs that were made by man. At least have belief in something that we can actually reach for ourselves. Evolution is reachable.

  • @anime891 you don't even get it. The point of religion is it can't be proven. That's the point! It's supposed to be like that, something you can have hope for. It gives us no hope at all to believe we were an accident.

    And stop side-stepping. The point of this entire this is that you attack people because of their beliefs, which is wrong. I don't attack your for believing in evolution, because I understand. You need to understand why people believe in religion, and then respect them.

  • @NintendoAmy I just said it cannot be proven nor disproven. You can't even accept the more logical answer that it was more likely an accident than a god creating us. And even if we were found to be created, aliens would be a more sound argument than God. A belief in evolution, something that extends our knowledge in math, science and logic, is far better than having faith in a religion that isn't guaranteed. 5000 different religions faithful of their beliefs, and dying for them.

  • @anime891 You can accept it. Not everyone thinks logically. Logically, it may seem everything is an accident. Abstractly, it seems quite the opposite.

    How can you say something so screwed up?! People who die for what they believe in shouldn't be mocked, but respected! Someone with such a strong will is honorable. It's the people who discriminate against them is the reason they are murdered, it is not because of the religion at all.

    People should always be respected for what they believe in.

  • @NintendoAmy Sorry, but that's like saying respect the suicide bombers. People who die for country, for liberty, freedom and justice and for their loved ones, yes, full respect. But to die for dogma? I have a hard time doing so. It's like dying for Harry Potter. They're both man-made written material that claims supernatural things. Except religion says that the supernatural really is true.

  • @anime891 how disrespectful can you be?! japan wasn't full of crazy nutjobs. why were there suicide bombers? they were dying for their country and their families!

    people don't just "die" for their religion. they are MURDERED by people like YOU who attack them! it's YOUR fault. not theirs. you feed the same line of prejudice ideas that cause the discrimination that gets them murdered.

    Christianity isn't man-made. You're such a heartless prick.

  • @NintendoAmy Was referring to the Muslim suicide bombers, but even looking at Japan's strategy, yes, that was pretty nutty. War will always be an evil. Japan wasn't murdered because they were bullied or attacked by the U.S. They chose to join the axis and attack Pearl Harbor. Christianity is most definitely man-made. There is nothing divine in Christianity that we cannot comprehend to be part of bronze age middle east.

  • @anime891 No! "Japan" didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, a few "Japanese" people did! Grave of the Fireflies, this movie helps you understand just how many people didn't want to be in the war, and how many people were just trying to save their families. I also watched another movie about Germans, and how many of their soldiers WEREN'T brainwashed, but were just kids going to defend their countries.

    And, by the way, the Bible was NOT written in the bronze age. Don't know why you keep saying that.

  • @NintendoAmy Moses wrote Genesis around 1400 B.C. which is during the Bronze Age.

  • @anime891 The Biblical times lasted 1600 years. Only about 12.5% of that crossed over into the Bronze Age.

    The Bible was not "written" in the Bronze Age. Not even a quarter of it was. Only the beginning was written in that time. It barely crossed over into the Bronze Age.

    And remember what I said about the Old Testament? 0% of the New Testament was written in the Bronze Age.

  • @NintendoAmy How is that possible when it clearly states in all of the sources I just looked at saying that Moses had written the first 5 books of the Old testament in 1400 B.C. The Bronze Age encompasses those times. Maybe there's something I'm not understanding.

  • @anime891 0% of the New Testament was written in the Bronze Age. That's all that's important, because not a single shred of Christian doctrine comes from the Old Testament.

    And like I said, Biblical times lasted 1600 years. And, including the Old Testament, it only crosses over to the last 200 years of the Bronze Age, which is 12.5%. The rest of the Bible was written after that.

  • @NintendoAmy Oh, so I guess the book of Genesis isn't taught. Every Christian fully believes in the doctrines of Genesis, and sadly many people believe that it's truly a fact.

  • @anime891 No, every Christian DOESN'T believe the doctrine of Genesis, but you got it right when you said the believe it's fact. Even historians will tell you that there really was Moses and you'll find this in your history books. Christians do believe the Old Testament HAPPENED, all the religion stuff, but they don't take the doctrine from it because they're not supposed to.

  • @NintendoAmy Genesis teaches us that the fundamental cause of the universe is god. That's something every Christian believes in. The likeliness of Moses existing doesn't bother me nor of Jesus' recorded existence by Josephus. What bothers me is the belief that they were supernaturally linked to god. Believing that Genesis is truly the answer to how the universe began sways people from looking at the bigger picture, or evolution. Though not all Christians are feeble minded.

  • @anime891 What's wrong with this? If it helps people emotionally, nothing's wrong with it.

    You can deny this if you want, but that only proves it. The only reason you are bothered by it is because you're arrogant. You feel believing in evolution and not the bible is smarter, and thus superior. Thus, you view Christians as inferior.

    You are no better than anyone else.

  • @NintendoAmy No, there are many prominent scientists that are Chrisian, such as Francis Collins, who was part of mapping the human genome. He, too, holds a belief in God, but he knows when to create a boundary between science and religion.

  • @NintendoAmy Well believing in a 2000 year old book of ancient desert tales OR believing in something that has MOUNTAINS of evidence? Hmmmm, anyone that looks at the Bible with a logical mindset doesn't believe in it. You've probably been indoctrinated by your parents your whole life so whatever.

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  • @BusinesslsBusiness @BusinesslsBusiness No. Actually, I haven't. I could hardly consider my family Christian.

    Again, there's nothing wrong with a person believing in something that isn't proven. Especially something that helps them mentally. Think of it as a medicine. It's wrong, and highly immature, for you to discriminate.

  • @NintendoAmy I find that extremely hard to believe, if that was the case you wouldn't be defending it with such zeal. No ignorance isn't medicine, if that were the case than human being would be better off as cave men living out a simple existence. You're basically condoning stupidity.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness Medicine is something given in order to help. Something that helps do away with emotional stress is medicine.

    That's like saying we would all be dead because we all would have to have chemotherapy. Just because it is something that helps, doesn't mean it EVERYONE is in dire need of it. So no, not everyone would be in caves, I am not condoning stupidity.

    Now you are just completely stereotyping. I know many, many intelligent religion people. Not everything is about science.

  • @NintendoAmy So you believe in virgin births? Spontaneous creation? The earth being 12,000 years old? World wide floods? Resurrection after death? This is the type of shit you would find in a science fiction novel. The real definition of medicine is "The science or practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease". You're talking about the placebo effect which does basically nothing.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness The placebo effect does nothing?

    See, this is the problem with people today. They only believe that what's on the outside is true. We have a consciousness. The placebo effect does not do "nothing." Just because it's not physical, does not mean it does't help repair you. Your mind can be damaged just as much as your physical body. Any psychiatric would understand this.

    See, people like you are screwed up. You spend all your time trying to attack people, rather than help.

  • @NintendoAmy It terms of fighting an actual disease? No. We were discussing whether religion is a type of "medicine" and it's not. You keep calling me screwed up but you haven't really refuted anything I said, you just keep attacking me personally. That's usually a sign of last defense, that's what most Christians resort to when they have nothing else.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness What the heck is this? The victim game?

    What is there to freaking refute?! All you're doing is bashing Christianity and saying it's all faulty and lies! How can I refute that?!

    HOW?!

    No, you say that's what most Christians do, but no. What most bigots do is attack Christianity and say it's all lies, because they KNOW they are being bigots and that there is no possible way to refuse that. And then resort to the victim game. You don't know HOW many times I've seen this.

  • @NintendoAmy Ok, so answer me do you believe in virgin births? Spontaneous creation? World wide floods? Resurrection after death? The Earth being 12,000 years old?

  • @BusinesslsBusiness Virgin births, world-wide floods, resurrection after death? Sure, but only in Old Testament times. Spontaneous creation, earth only 6000? Sure, you got a problem with that? Or are you just going to tell me how stupid I am?

  • @NintendoAmy Actually yes I am, if you really believe you're impossibly fucking stupid. Thanks I just wanted confirmation that you're a Fundamentalist Christian which is a step above mental retardation but the difference is mentally handicap people can't help it, where as you're stupid by choice.

  • @NintendoAmy You can't refute Christianity being a lie because it is a lie. The main core of all religion holds true to the belief that the supernatural exist and that there is in fact an after life, only to make you feel better. Like, grow up.

  • @anime891 You can't state it being a lie as fact, because if it is, then evolution is a lie.

    Just because someone doubts something does not make it a lie. It's only a theory that it isn't true, in the same way that it's a theory that it is true.

    And since there's all theories, anyone can believe whatever they want.

    Wait... wait, hold on. You're here attacking people's beliefs, trying to hurt someone's feelings, and you're telling ME to grow up?!

  • @NintendoAmy Evolution is backed by research that have been scientifically studied and tested. We actually have an understanding of how evolution works, but we don't know crap about the supernatural. At least evolution has a strong basis for its foundation and is on the right track, but where the hell is religion going? It's stuck there, at the virgin birth, and the ressurection of Jesus Christ. ALL of which DEFIES the laws of the natural world, and therefore, is a lie.

  • @anime891 even if evolution is correct, doesn't mean God doesn't exist. God created Man last of all the animals, He could have used evolution as a process of creating Man, which was still animal, until, as C.S. Lewis described, God breathed His spirit into the animal, and then He became Man and had consciousness which could perceive time (past present future) which animals can't.

  • @jesuslambofgod345 I'm not attacking god. I'm attacking religious dogma. I respect those who believe in deism, a god that let nature take it's course is something that I don't have a problem with.

  • @NintendoAmy If I'm so screwed up explain to me why Christianity is true and correct. Give me some evidence to back up your claims, aside from religion being a type of pseudo medicine.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness I never said it's true and correct. I said I believe it's true, and it's not harmful.

    It's a PERSONAL belief. Seriously, grow up. You need to learn to respect other people's beliefs and stop prejudging people and thinking inferiority of people who believe differently than you.

  • @NintendoAmy I am prejudging you off of your statements. YOU'RE the one that keeps calling me screwed up and telling me to grow up. Show me some evidence and I wont attack your religion but if you wont I'll continue to call bullshit.

  • @BusinesslsBusiness See, typical bigot right there! You know I can't! You know there's no freaking evidence that proves the Bible! You know that, but you only say that to rub it in my face!

  • @NintendoAmy hi NintendoAmy using names to call others who don't believe isn't really a good testimony. we are ambassadors of Christ and Christ lives in us, i don't think Christ uses bad words. while proving our points, it is also possible to be civil and treat others w differing viewpoints with respect.^^ God bless!(:

  • @jesuslambofgod345 You better leave, before you start being attacked.

    Technically, this is a war. And you know what caused it? Discrimination. Exactly my point. Religion doesn't cause wars but people who discriminate.