I hear that Derek Webb has supported Ron Paul. Can anyone verify this? Ron is a great man, that respects individuals and wants to preserve all Life and Liberty. End the Wars.
This is NOT about homosexuality. He is talking about the book The Prayer of Jabez and the Prosperity Gospel, that God is there to give you prosperity if you just pester him enough in the right way. The Wedding Dress is often compared in the Gospels to Baptism, whereby we are made white and clean by no ability of our own. Christ is compared to the Groom, and the Church the Bride.
For those who know scripture and the story of Hosea and Gomer, this song should sound familiar. In the book of Hosea, God tell Hosea to take a harlot as a wife. She practices harlotry after their wedding, but eventually Hosea/God take her back. This is the Gospel. While we were sinners (Gomer) Christ died for our sins. He will take His people out of harlotry, which is good news.
Did he just endorse the Roman Catholic church with its false gospel and idolatry? How can he write a song about 'the adulterous church' and in the same breath endorse the mother of harlots?
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he completly contridicts himself here when he wrote his new song commending homosexuality.. way to go Derek.. way to swing and miss.. sounds good but you cant back yourself..
he wasn't commending homosexuality, he was condemning the hypocritical words that Christians or people who hate gays often employ. While Jesus calls us to love others despite their sins many still speak out in anger or hate.
@rolltide16ns@rolltide16ns He isn't "commending homosexuality" in that song. He's criticizing Christians who are hateful. That is the point of the song... it is very clear, it is not meant to be written to all Christians though, just the ones who hate homosexuals, treat them harshly or unlovingly.
I kind of think he may have went a bit too far with the language... but that's just my opinion. I sill respect him for speaking his mind, and speaking the truth.
@JamesHarmerMusic I think the language is also used to make a point though...yeah, it's unexpected, but I think he's trying to prove that people get upset about a curse word and ignore the real problems. At least, that's what I feel..
@sirmovesalot17: Yes, there are many things wrong in the RCC today, BUT their great strength is that it can speak with ONE VOICE on behalf of half of all the christians around the globe! I think that should be an example of unity to all of us. And we should also look at ourselves as bigforrents already pointed out.
So, I just talked to Bruce Wilkinson in Ashland Ky. I asked him if him and Derek Webb ever got that thing worked out. He had no idea who Derek Webb even was, I explained and told him about this video .... hahaha AWKWARD.
PART 1 of 2Jesus condemend all such prayers in Matthew 6 as "vain repetetion." We need to repent of any desire to manipulate God into giving us what we want, merely by saying some "majic" words. That is not prayer. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who sent His son to die, and rise again- that we might live and serve Him with new hearts and minds, by faith. Last.
Styles: Its like me praying the "our Father" over and over, and somehow expecting to receive some spiritual benefit - esp., if I live however I want outside of church and care little for Christ or following Him. THAT is odious in God's nostrils and is hypocrisy. PT 2
Stylesd02, You asked what exactly is wrong with the book... It creates the impression that if you pray a formula type of prayer (i.e., the "prayer of Jabez") that somehow you will get God's blessing. First, Jabez just wanted more land. Second, Jabez's example is in the middle of a long line of genealogies, and while he is being commended by his prayer, there is nothing remarkable about praying what Jabez prayed. PT 1 of 2.
in response to dacowinhere... There is many things wrong with current catholicism and way too many to name in this comment. Well for one many DO believe that there are many ways to get to even implying that works can get to heaven which is 100% wrong.. two the "Virgin Mary" is a mediator between man and God along with the pope. I forgot the actual verse but it says there is but one mediator and He is Christ...
I do think he's a great artist AND i even think his theology is generally a step in a more interesting direction...his SOTERIOLOGY however is ABYSMAL....but no more the 99.9% of all "Christianity".
I hear that Derek Webb has supported Ron Paul. Can anyone verify this? Ron is a great man, that respects individuals and wants to preserve all Life and Liberty. End the Wars.
bdmenne 1 month ago
This is NOT about homosexuality. He is talking about the book The Prayer of Jabez and the Prosperity Gospel, that God is there to give you prosperity if you just pester him enough in the right way. The Wedding Dress is often compared in the Gospels to Baptism, whereby we are made white and clean by no ability of our own. Christ is compared to the Groom, and the Church the Bride.
Venerablebean 2 months ago
For those who know scripture and the story of Hosea and Gomer, this song should sound familiar. In the book of Hosea, God tell Hosea to take a harlot as a wife. She practices harlotry after their wedding, but eventually Hosea/God take her back. This is the Gospel. While we were sinners (Gomer) Christ died for our sins. He will take His people out of harlotry, which is good news.
billfabian 1 year ago
Did he just endorse the Roman Catholic church with its false gospel and idolatry? How can he write a song about 'the adulterous church' and in the same breath endorse the mother of harlots?
Enoch2 1 year ago
Derek is like Paul...short, ballsy in what he writes but tame in person, and packed with courage and beautiful truth.
swiftyguitar 1 year ago
I was at this performance...the woman who shouts "Preach it brother" at the 2:51 mark was our assistant pastor's wife.
abrunone 1 year ago
Oh No Not Derek! I though he was perfect!? Kidding He rocks! Honesty should rule!
Darn shame is doesn't
Ron Paul 2012 !!!
wolfhybred 1 year ago
wow, he speaks his mind well... I think that's what Contemporary Christian Music is about, honesty...of what we really believe in...
ailefofelia 2 years ago
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he completly contridicts himself here when he wrote his new song commending homosexuality.. way to go Derek.. way to swing and miss.. sounds good but you cant back yourself..
rolltide16ns 2 years ago
he wasn't commending homosexuality, he was condemning the hypocritical words that Christians or people who hate gays often employ. While Jesus calls us to love others despite their sins many still speak out in anger or hate.
scotiej 2 years ago 4
He doesn't approve it but still loves those who practice it.
CusK77 2 years ago
@rolltide16ns @rolltide16ns He isn't "commending homosexuality" in that song. He's criticizing Christians who are hateful. That is the point of the song... it is very clear, it is not meant to be written to all Christians though, just the ones who hate homosexuals, treat them harshly or unlovingly.
I kind of think he may have went a bit too far with the language... but that's just my opinion. I sill respect him for speaking his mind, and speaking the truth.
JamesHarmerMusic 10 months ago
@JamesHarmerMusic I think the language is also used to make a point though...yeah, it's unexpected, but I think he's trying to prove that people get upset about a curse word and ignore the real problems. At least, that's what I feel..
dalta0110 7 months ago
I think Derek Webb is right, but more important than that: What he said he said out of love. I think he truely wants what is best for the Church.
@palepreach: Good explanation!
@sirmovesalot17: Yes, there are many things wrong in the RCC today, BUT their great strength is that it can speak with ONE VOICE on behalf of half of all the christians around the globe! I think that should be an example of unity to all of us. And we should also look at ourselves as bigforrents already pointed out.
JuutjeH 2 years ago 3
Uh? Uh! Uh? Uh-h-h-h-h-h???????
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byau 3 years ago
It's refreshing to hear somebody within, somewhat, the cm community speak out as he did. he is right. He is right. peace
boomac62 3 years ago 3
So, I just talked to Bruce Wilkinson in Ashland Ky. I asked him if him and Derek Webb ever got that thing worked out. He had no idea who Derek Webb even was, I explained and told him about this video .... hahaha AWKWARD.
Eccentricslang 3 years ago 2
and....? the point?
boomac62 3 years ago
"we will take anything that comes down the pike"
True that.
We'll [in the Universal sense] buy into heresy if it's in vogue.
forgivensomuch 3 years ago
PART 1 of 2Jesus condemend all such prayers in Matthew 6 as "vain repetetion." We need to repent of any desire to manipulate God into giving us what we want, merely by saying some "majic" words. That is not prayer. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who sent His son to die, and rise again- that we might live and serve Him with new hearts and minds, by faith. Last.
palepreach 4 years ago
Styles: Its like me praying the "our Father" over and over, and somehow expecting to receive some spiritual benefit - esp., if I live however I want outside of church and care little for Christ or following Him. THAT is odious in God's nostrils and is hypocrisy. PT 2
palepreach 4 years ago
Stylesd02, You asked what exactly is wrong with the book... It creates the impression that if you pray a formula type of prayer (i.e., the "prayer of Jabez") that somehow you will get God's blessing. First, Jabez just wanted more land. Second, Jabez's example is in the middle of a long line of genealogies, and while he is being commended by his prayer, there is nothing remarkable about praying what Jabez prayed. PT 1 of 2.
palepreach 4 years ago
i love derek's courage. on more than one occasion he's really stepped out and shared what he believes. its super interesting.
elivermo 4 years ago 4
i think that's why i like him.
iplayawashburn 4 years ago 2
so what is exactly is wrong with the book!!!
stylesd02 4 years ago
cus there is nothing wrong with it....
dacowinhere 4 years ago
in response to dacowinhere... There is many things wrong with current catholicism and way too many to name in this comment. Well for one many DO believe that there are many ways to get to even implying that works can get to heaven which is 100% wrong.. two the "Virgin Mary" is a mediator between man and God along with the pope. I forgot the actual verse but it says there is but one mediator and He is Christ...
Sirmovesalot17 3 years ago
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bigforrents 2 years ago
"Not that there is anything wrong with current catholicism" very interesting thing to say.
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therealjonpaw 4 years ago
listen to him.... "to some degree"
He's right.
jarchri 3 years ago
I do think he's a great artist AND i even think his theology is generally a step in a more interesting direction...his SOTERIOLOGY however is ABYSMAL....but no more the 99.9% of all "Christianity".
therealjonpaw 3 years ago