There is no treatment or cure for gays... for a simple reason...there is nothing wrong with gays. We are not ill, not mentally deficient. All we are is different from the majority. But being different is not a crime or a disorder!
@7ees In the past I would have answered YES! But now I know there is nothing wrong with me or my sexual orientation. So I'm happy with the way my life turned out. Why would I not be? Of course life is easier as a straight person, but that is because of al the prejudice and condemnation of straight people. So my question to you is: Why can't people just let me be a happy gay?
@7ees In my opinion you ar4e talking nonsense. Being gay is not a choice, you can hide it, but you can not change it. That is the only logical thing to say. And if you can't change it, what every decent psychiatrist and psychologist will confirm, then you have to accept the fact that you are who you are, gay, straight, bi or t.g... It is a fact of life and fighting that is illogical and useless.
@7ees Where did you get your degree in psychology? Emotions and logic are not per se opposite forces. They can work together nicely, you should try it! It feels good and shows results!
Jesus doesn't work because he is a mythological figure based off of Mesopotamian theology of an ancient archaic religion. Jesus loves you is no more significant than mickey mouse loves you.
o daym! i remember the time were i first saw this video, and commented that i want a sexual orientation change, but then someone commented to me, i don't need to change and perhaps the world is the world who would realy need it, (as you can see on the highest rated comment), and it turns out they were right! im 18 now, and i don't need to be ashamed on what i am right now that im bisexual, whatever they say that im disgusting or whatever i don't f*cking care its my life and i respect it more
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just because it didnt work out for you it doesnt mean it doesnt work out for other people, you wont get anywere just by uploading videos about giving up, I personally believe that the patient doesnt have to merely depend on the therapist, and there a lot of tools out there so you can achieve your goal, and honestly that combination that you mention in the video is not helpful et all
@MegaMambo5 I love how no matter what type of different program or how much time an ex-gay survivor attended they're always met with "oh well you didn't do it right." You're SO right, I was only in therapy with the man who founded the modern exgay movement, I should totally subscribe to your crackpot ideas. Oh please make me straight with your method that no one else knows!
@MegaMambo5 Also the former co-founder of Exodus International actually addresses the idea of "you just didn't do it right" in a video on youtube titled "Exodus Co-Founder: The Inherent Harm In Ex-Gay Programs." I'd provide a link but youtube doens't allow me to post links in comments.
@MegaMambo5 You can "personally believe" whatever you want and nobody fucking cares. You can personally believe the earth is flat or that the known universe is 5000 years and any number of things that have zero scientific backing just like ex-gay programs. Take your intellectual laziness elsewhere.
Jesus, gives you freedom, not restraints. You have stated yourself, there is no cure for homosexuality. Therefore, you have just restained yourself. I am not a bible toting preacher. I am here to tell you I am happy being an ex gay. God gave me the challenge of same sex attraction, how I deal with it is my choice. With God there are no boundaries, only the ones we place on ourselves. I am not judging anyone, I have no right too. Just stating the facts.
Forcing anyone into something he does not want to do is like placing a square peg in round hole. First of all, if you think ex gay works every single time the first time. Your wrong, because just like being a good athlete, you need to keep it up, or even if you try to diet, you need to keep it up. This issue should never be taken lightly. However, you need to look at all facts. Check out Dr. Spitzers study. He was critizied for it, even though he got homosexuality off the APA!
I find it amazing that no one questions the studies and scientific research of the gay and lesbian community. All the research is exclusively done within the gay and lesbian community. NONE are outside resources. If there was a company that took that on, they would be commiting corporate suicide because they would have to be positive toward the gay and lesbian community. I guess with biased information The "truth" really does win out? It is easy to get a point across when all info is yours.
kevin, I'm bi too, with a greater attraction to man then women (5.0 on kinsey I'd say). I have lived in celibacy for 5 years getting depressed (not being able to sleep from the suicidal images in my head) and losing any sence of sexuality (men and women)... try to accept yourself... Your sexual orientation can't really be changed. The only thing they do in those therapies is reporgramming you to neglect you are sexually attracted to man too as told in this vid...
Yeah, but on the other hand one German psychologist who also offers the "Reparative Therapy" says it only works on one third of all patients. And it's just that you really have to be willing to change. NARTH says that boys who are gay often have a too strong bond to their mothers. The weird thing is, I grew up without a father, I don't even know him and I'm also bisexual/gay. I was always surrounded by women, I had only 3 female friends and whenever I was with them, I played with barbies.
I just behaved like a girl, because I've been put into this role. My mom didn't do anything about this, she never made any efforts to make me get to know the male world. And because I had no father, I never got to know the men world. And that's how my homo-/bisexuality developed. I alwys got bullied in my childhood, so I retreated from other persons especially boys. And looking at this, the theories of Dr. Nicolosi make sense to me. I really don't belive that homosexuality has a genetical cause
@kevin080592 You cannot do it on your own power. I ask you to consider Jesus Christ not wacked out therapists who are trying to do God's job (poorly). You are not bi-sexual. That is a label man has slapped on you. You're a human being made in the image of God; created with love and dignity. Ironically it is repentance AND acceptance by God that paves the way to healing. You openly confess with your mouth that you are sinner and ask Jesus to please save you.
@kevin080592 Your desires are legit and God does not give us desires without a way to satisfy them. We hunger so we eat. We want love so were pair off. The desires are legitimate but can be misguided. God will accept you where you are but will not LEAVE you there. He can heal and untwist what is broken. But until you let God define your identity instead of the world or LGBT, nothing will happen
@kevin080592 Cont. There is an enemy of your soul, Satan. Same-sex/bi is a spiritual attack on your basic sense of identity. Your sexuality is precious and a core of your identity. Male/female is a picture of God and Satan wants to mess it up and will attack the mind and confuse the feelings. I've experienced lesbian temptation but I cut the root before it grew because I know God has much better waiting for me.
@kevin080592 These ex-gay camps are trying to do something only God himself can do. I only hope you get to experience the out of this world love God provides. It scared me at first how incredibly deep it is. It felt like was stripped bare and felt ugly yet he called me beautiful. Kevin, please go to Jesus. Ex-gay therapies are another devil tactic keeping people away from REAL healing from God. It is an abusive fraud, Jesus is for real.
@kevin080592 Most of all Kevin, God will be the Father we all so desperately need because so many Earthly fathers have abused or abandoned the responsibility given to them.
omg....all those so called therapists are just latent gays themselves, or are so insecure with their own sexuality that they HAVE to try and make everyone exactly what they wish they were.
The Kinsey scale. It actually goes from 0 (exclusively heterosexual) to 6 (exclusively homosexual). The Wikipedia article explains each number in more detail. Like any attempt to simplify something as complex as sexuality, it has limitations, but it can be a useful tool to quickly explain one's orientation with a little more specificity than just gay/straight/bi. Like, a "5" might consider himself gay, or a bisexual might be "2" or "4" instead of the common perception of a bisexual as a "3".
why is being straight suppose to bring Happiness? there are millions
of miserable straights in this world. Homophobia is the problem! not
Homosexuality.
globehunter2 9 months ago
There is no treatment or cure for gays... for a simple reason...there is nothing wrong with gays. We are not ill, not mentally deficient. All we are is different from the majority. But being different is not a crime or a disorder!
fredkwint 11 months ago
@fredkwint
Wouldn't you rather be a happy heterosexual?
7ees 10 months ago
@7ees In the past I would have answered YES! But now I know there is nothing wrong with me or my sexual orientation. So I'm happy with the way my life turned out. Why would I not be? Of course life is easier as a straight person, but that is because of al the prejudice and condemnation of straight people. So my question to you is: Why can't people just let me be a happy gay?
fredkwint 9 months ago
@fredkwint
In my opinion, you wanted to be straight back then because you were thinking rationally.
But now, you don't mind being "gay" because there are emotions involved in the equation.
Emotions and logic are two opposite forces, by the way.
It's up to you. Do you want Logic to rule you, or do you want emotions to control your life?
7ees 9 months ago
@7ees In my opinion you ar4e talking nonsense. Being gay is not a choice, you can hide it, but you can not change it. That is the only logical thing to say. And if you can't change it, what every decent psychiatrist and psychologist will confirm, then you have to accept the fact that you are who you are, gay, straight, bi or t.g... It is a fact of life and fighting that is illogical and useless.
fredkwint 9 months ago
@7ees Where did you get your degree in psychology? Emotions and logic are not per se opposite forces. They can work together nicely, you should try it! It feels good and shows results!
fredkwint 9 months ago
Thanks for speaking your truth. Seriously. I'm sure it isn't easy.
ocmozfan 1 year ago
Jesus doesn't work because he is a mythological figure based off of Mesopotamian theology of an ancient archaic religion. Jesus loves you is no more significant than mickey mouse loves you.
rooio3 1 year ago
Teraphies don't work. only Jesus works ^^ Jesus loves you.
siholgs 1 year ago
o daym! i remember the time were i first saw this video, and commented that i want a sexual orientation change, but then someone commented to me, i don't need to change and perhaps the world is the world who would realy need it, (as you can see on the highest rated comment), and it turns out they were right! im 18 now, and i don't need to be ashamed on what i am right now that im bisexual, whatever they say that im disgusting or whatever i don't f*cking care its my life and i respect it more
kevin080592 1 year ago
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just because it didnt work out for you it doesnt mean it doesnt work out for other people, you wont get anywere just by uploading videos about giving up, I personally believe that the patient doesnt have to merely depend on the therapist, and there a lot of tools out there so you can achieve your goal, and honestly that combination that you mention in the video is not helpful et all
MegaMambo5 1 year ago
@MegaMambo5 I love how no matter what type of different program or how much time an ex-gay survivor attended they're always met with "oh well you didn't do it right." You're SO right, I was only in therapy with the man who founded the modern exgay movement, I should totally subscribe to your crackpot ideas. Oh please make me straight with your method that no one else knows!
exgaysurvivordan 1 year ago
@MegaMambo5 Also the former co-founder of Exodus International actually addresses the idea of "you just didn't do it right" in a video on youtube titled "Exodus Co-Founder: The Inherent Harm In Ex-Gay Programs." I'd provide a link but youtube doens't allow me to post links in comments.
exgaysurvivordan 1 year ago
@MegaMambo5 You can "personally believe" whatever you want and nobody fucking cares. You can personally believe the earth is flat or that the known universe is 5000 years and any number of things that have zero scientific backing just like ex-gay programs. Take your intellectual laziness elsewhere.
exgaysurvivordan 1 year ago
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Jesus, gives you freedom, not restraints. You have stated yourself, there is no cure for homosexuality. Therefore, you have just restained yourself. I am not a bible toting preacher. I am here to tell you I am happy being an ex gay. God gave me the challenge of same sex attraction, how I deal with it is my choice. With God there are no boundaries, only the ones we place on ourselves. I am not judging anyone, I have no right too. Just stating the facts.
39Mustangman 1 year ago
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Forcing anyone into something he does not want to do is like placing a square peg in round hole. First of all, if you think ex gay works every single time the first time. Your wrong, because just like being a good athlete, you need to keep it up, or even if you try to diet, you need to keep it up. This issue should never be taken lightly. However, you need to look at all facts. Check out Dr. Spitzers study. He was critizied for it, even though he got homosexuality off the APA!
39Mustangman 1 year ago
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I find it amazing that no one questions the studies and scientific research of the gay and lesbian community. All the research is exclusively done within the gay and lesbian community. NONE are outside resources. If there was a company that took that on, they would be commiting corporate suicide because they would have to be positive toward the gay and lesbian community. I guess with biased information The "truth" really does win out? It is easy to get a point across when all info is yours.
39Mustangman 1 year ago
Interesting! Thanks!
dattelpalme83 2 years ago
Thanks for the video. Gracias por el video.
santistag 2 years ago
well how do you really change your sexual orientation completely?!!....i'm 16 and bisexual...and i want to be straight!!! please help me!!!!
kevin080592 3 years ago
kevin, you don't need to change. the world needs to change.
oggasteen 3 years ago 3
Why do you want to change? Are you a Christian?
TrueRevivalNow 3 years ago 2
i'm agnostic and i live in a predominantly christian country.....so...i'm struggling!
kevin080592 3 years ago
kevin, I'm bi too, with a greater attraction to man then women (5.0 on kinsey I'd say). I have lived in celibacy for 5 years getting depressed (not being able to sleep from the suicidal images in my head) and losing any sence of sexuality (men and women)... try to accept yourself... Your sexual orientation can't really be changed. The only thing they do in those therapies is reporgramming you to neglect you are sexually attracted to man too as told in this vid...
schoende 3 years ago
Yeah, but on the other hand one German psychologist who also offers the "Reparative Therapy" says it only works on one third of all patients. And it's just that you really have to be willing to change. NARTH says that boys who are gay often have a too strong bond to their mothers. The weird thing is, I grew up without a father, I don't even know him and I'm also bisexual/gay. I was always surrounded by women, I had only 3 female friends and whenever I was with them, I played with barbies.
Gewaldro 2 years ago
I just behaved like a girl, because I've been put into this role. My mom didn't do anything about this, she never made any efforts to make me get to know the male world. And because I had no father, I never got to know the men world. And that's how my homo-/bisexuality developed. I alwys got bullied in my childhood, so I retreated from other persons especially boys. And looking at this, the theories of Dr. Nicolosi make sense to me. I really don't belive that homosexuality has a genetical cause
Gewaldro 2 years ago
@kevin080592 You cannot do it on your own power. I ask you to consider Jesus Christ not wacked out therapists who are trying to do God's job (poorly). You are not bi-sexual. That is a label man has slapped on you. You're a human being made in the image of God; created with love and dignity. Ironically it is repentance AND acceptance by God that paves the way to healing. You openly confess with your mouth that you are sinner and ask Jesus to please save you.
TazHall 1 year ago
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@kevin080592 Your desires are legit and God does not give us desires without a way to satisfy them. We hunger so we eat. We want love so were pair off. The desires are legitimate but can be misguided. God will accept you where you are but will not LEAVE you there. He can heal and untwist what is broken. But until you let God define your identity instead of the world or LGBT, nothing will happen
TazHall 1 year ago
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@kevin080592 Cont. There is an enemy of your soul, Satan. Same-sex/bi is a spiritual attack on your basic sense of identity. Your sexuality is precious and a core of your identity. Male/female is a picture of God and Satan wants to mess it up and will attack the mind and confuse the feelings. I've experienced lesbian temptation but I cut the root before it grew because I know God has much better waiting for me.
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@kevin080592 These ex-gay camps are trying to do something only God himself can do. I only hope you get to experience the out of this world love God provides. It scared me at first how incredibly deep it is. It felt like was stripped bare and felt ugly yet he called me beautiful. Kevin, please go to Jesus. Ex-gay therapies are another devil tactic keeping people away from REAL healing from God. It is an abusive fraud, Jesus is for real.
TazHall 1 year ago
@kevin080592 Most of all Kevin, God will be the Father we all so desperately need because so many Earthly fathers have abused or abandoned the responsibility given to them.
TazHall 1 year ago
I'm a 6.0
papatoony 3 years ago
So cute... Go Daniel!
DblOSmith 3 years ago
omg....all those so called therapists are just latent gays themselves, or are so insecure with their own sexuality that they HAVE to try and make everyone exactly what they wish they were.
xenokyle 3 years ago
You poor thing. There is nothing wrong with being Gay. Celebrate your GAYness.
Look down on those pathetic republican isolationist "ideals".
You can do better. Don't hurt yourself anymore.
AJuner78 3 years ago
great video.
soulinite 3 years ago
I'm curious about this 'scale' at 1:18.
kaijuman 3 years ago
The Kinsey scale. It actually goes from 0 (exclusively heterosexual) to 6 (exclusively homosexual). The Wikipedia article explains each number in more detail. Like any attempt to simplify something as complex as sexuality, it has limitations, but it can be a useful tool to quickly explain one's orientation with a little more specificity than just gay/straight/bi. Like, a "5" might consider himself gay, or a bisexual might be "2" or "4" instead of the common perception of a bisexual as a "3".
Icarus3 3 years ago